this is like the ultimate progressive interview. they mention

chomsky
folk singer
"hope"
noam chomsky
naomi klein
"stop killing my buzz"
"the Left"
the Guardian
Dennis Kucinich
"partner" not husband
"Reagan-Bush cultural revolution"

Stupid hippie.

albo: this is like the ultimate progressive interview. they mention

chomsky
folk singer
"hope"
noam chomsky
naomi klein
"stop killing my buzz"
"the Left"
the Guardian
Dennis Kucinich
"partner" not husband
"Reagan-Bush cultural revolution"

YOu didn't actually read it, did you? You just skimmed through it to find buzzwords to kvetch about, right?

Uh, she never quite gets around to elaborating on that statement in the interview.

does she now support the lady razor or not? Thats all I care to know

Bill_Wick's_Friend: YOu didn't actually read it, did you? You just skimmed through it to find buzzwords to kvetch about, right?

I read it. Pretty much buzzword bingo, Obama is the next coming of Jebus, and not much about the troops or what she has against them doing the duty they signed up for.

KaponoFor3: Stupid hippie.

Calling Ani DiFranco a hippie basically makes the word hippie meaningless for any distinctions. She's an atheist.

Bill_Wick's_Friend: YOu didn't actually read it, did you? You just skimmed through it to find buzzwords to kvetch about, right?

i read most of it. i like her music. the politics i can forget about like a goldfish forgets about a little plastic castle

see Obama as an intelligent, thoughtful, aware leader. That's something I've never known in my life as an American.

i had no idea that ani difranco was only 7 years old, how cute.

We're all supporting the troops and the "mission" in Iraq whether we like it or not. It's called taxation without representation.

GurneyHalleck: We're all supporting the troops and the "mission" in Iraq whether we like it or not. It's called taxation without representation.

i'm not sure you have a firm understanding of what that phrase means.

She's giving my "troops" quite a bit of support right now....

GurneyHalleck: We're all supporting the troops and the "mission" in Iraq whether we like it or not. It's called taxation without representation.

Huh?

She can sure as hell play the guitar, but she's a little TOO left for me.

Obdicut:
Calling Ani DiFranco a hippie basically makes the word hippie meaningless for any distinctions. She's an atheist.

You can't be an atheist hippie?

thalassatx: You can't be an atheist hippie?

Not really. The core of hippiedom was/is mysticism. It got its start from the Beat fascination with Eastern religions. Most of the most recognizable aspects of hippie culture are mystical. It was counterculture religion, but religion nonetheless.

She's a farkin Napoleon.

FTA: "When I first got together with my partner-who's now my baby daddy and co-producer of this record-he pegged me right away."

Wow. I'd have bet my life she played for the other team.

You learn something new every day.

adamgreeney: She can sure as hell play the guitar, but she's a little TOO left for me.

You needed to capitalize? Really?

thomps: see Obama as an intelligent, thoughtful, aware leader. That's something I've never known in my life as an American.

i had no idea that ani difranco was only 7 years old, how cute.

They grow up so fast. *sniff*

Because People in power are Stupid: She's a farkin Napoleon.

She's lonelier still.

MaxxLarge: FTA: "When I first got together with my partner-who's now my baby daddy and co-producer of this record-he pegged me right away."

Wow. I'd have bet my life she played for the other team.

You learn something new every day.

Ani's a switch hitter. I remember the wee uproar when she married a dude 10 years ago.

Obdicut: thalassatx: You can't be an atheist hippie?

Not really. The core of hippiedom was/is mysticism. It got its start from the Beat fascination with Eastern religions. Most of the most recognizable aspects of hippie culture are mystical. It was counterculture religion, but religion nonetheless.

I beg to differ.

Although I may not actually be a hippie, because I have a job and shower at least once a day.

zymurgist: I beg to differ.

Although I may not actually be a hippie, because I have a job and shower at least once a day

It doesn't really matter if you differ. If you want to call yourself a hippie, that's fine, I hope it communicates whatever you want to whoever you want. But as a group designation, it definitely applies to a large group of people for whom mysticism in various stripes is central.

Saying you're an atheist hippie is like saying you're a materialistic Beatnik. It may communicate something, but part of what it communicates is that you don't really fit the group designation.

RevMercutio: Ani's a switch hitter. I remember the wee uproar when she married a dude 10 years ago.

Ah, that explains it. I do try not to make snap judgments...But it just seems to me like you could cram all of the ultra-feminist, granola-sucking, folk-singing, hairy-pitted, left-of-Michael-Moore Lilith Fair'ers in America who DON'T pack carpet in their lunch boxes into a single Volvo WITHOUT having to butter their hips first.

I love Ani and everyone including minor celebs are entitled to thier viewpoint, even if it doesn't match yours :P

She has never claimed to be a hippie, plus the definition of hippie has long been expanded and doesn't even resemble the original.

Fark, I have a poster of Jerry Garcia in my bedroom THAT also does not a hippie make.

Um, she barely talks about it at all, and doesn't say what she meant, subby. This barely seems worth posting.

One of my friends always sends me lyrics of her's claiming she is a genius. I just dont get it really. It isnt my thing though but I can understand why people like it.

She is a true c*nt tease --pretended to be gay for years and then hoodwinked her lesbian fanbase by marrying a dude

fmmodzelewski: She is a true c*nt tease --pretended to be gay for years and then hoodwinked her lesbian fanbase by marrying a dude

i only have a passing familiarity with her, but i seem to recall that even her early lyrics acknowledged that she took dips in both pools, as it were.

She didn't elaborate on that line because there's nothing to explain. It's called a cry for attention. It'll shock the right people and she'll be hailed as some sort of far-left heroine and gutsy revolutionary when she's neither.

/That said, I do like her music, but she comes across as an idiot sometimes. She is damn good at marketing herself though. A Hippie version of Madonna.
//I also consider myself slightly left of the center so don't think I'm some Faux News freak blasting on her.

thomps: fmmodzelewski: She is a true c*nt tease --pretended to be gay for years and then hoodwinked her lesbian fanbase by marrying a dude

i only have a passing familiarity with her, but i seem to recall that even her early lyrics acknowledged that she took dips in both pools, as it were.

or to put it in a classy way; she likes the pole as well as the hole.

Bring the troops home boys, some has-been, washed-up, no-talent, faux-lesbian singer does not approve!

adamgreeney: She can sure as hell play the guitar, but she's a little TOO left for me.

Judging by the interview alone, and without any great familiarity with her actual music, I have to say that she's not very left-wing at all. In fact, she seems quite pragmatically progressive, what with the dismissal of Chomsky.

FTFI: And then just living in New Orleans really made me realize, wow, white people are just looking for shiat to whine about, aren't we? [Laughs] And I'm another whiny white kid with a guitar.
That was golden.

Also, the part about music and politics being inseparable, that was very well put, although I would argue that her so-called Reagan-Bush cultural revolution extended quite a ways further back in American history.

the really interesting thing is that nowhere in that interview does she actually SAY why she can't support the troops.

Subby read article? I don't think so.

MaxxLarge: FTA: "When I first got together with my partner-who's now my baby daddy and co-producer of this record-he pegged me right away."

Wow. I'd have bet my life she played for the other team.

You learn something new every day.

I think she used to play for both teams.

You know, back in teh day I liked Ani. Blood in the Boardroom remains an all time favorite; it's a funny as hell. But reading that interview was depressing.

Ani: "Ohhhh, look, the world has finally caught up to my ideals."

Umm, sorry to break it to you Ani but you've sold out.

Since I'm typing this from my phone I can't quote you exactly but religion and hippidom are not necessarily connected or need to be, perhaps your confusing spirituality with religion? One does not need to be a religious person to believe in a god or have a sense of mysticism as you say. I grossly detest religion but yet have a belief in a higher power, also I'm not a hippy so I don't really care one way or another how you classify them. Just wanted to throw in my two cents.

/fan of her music though
//fist of an angry god...yada yada

"the really interesting thing is that nowhere in that interview does she actually SAY why she can't support the troops."

I'm not sure she actually had to.

A while ago - say, a few years - I read an interview with a comedian who's name I can't remember now, talking about just this topic. Whoever it was shared the opinion that it is actually impossible to simultaneously oppose the war and support the troops.

Since it was so long ago, the details I recall about it are fuzzy and scant... but it went something along the lines of "without troops shooting people, there is no war to oppose". Kind of a mash-up of "troops-are-war" and "'following orders' is no excuse" schools of thought. And I seem to remember whoever-it-was giving out a special tongue-lashing to any troop who opposes the war, but fights it anyway. The words "ultimate moral cowardice" were used, and that phrase made such an impression on me that its the only reason I even remember this article existed at all.

It looks kind of suspect now that I read it over, but at the time I remember being unable to disagree. I probably don't remember enough of the argument, though.

*shrug*

WorLord: "the really interesting thing is that nowhere in that interview does she actually SAY why she can't support the troops."

I'm not sure she actually had to.

She doesn't have to. I don't care one way or the other. My comment referred to subby's extremely poorly phrased headline.

I see Obama as an intelligent, thoughtful, aware leader. That's something I've never known in my life as an American.

Based on what? Reading the teleprompter well?

I see you as a kool aid drinker. You were pitched a product and you bought it. Chomsky is absolutely correct.

I'll tell you-that moment in his acceptance speech when he said "To all those whose support I have not yet earned, I will be your president, too"-that just made me bawl.

Gee, that was awful big of Obama. It would be news to a nutty winger that a POTUS is everybody's POTUS.

Her big brother Tony was always the star of that family.

The enlightening statement of the day-

"Chomsky, You're killing my buzz man!.

FTFA:The idea that you can separate politics and music is a fallacy.

Look, I'm a pretty leftish/middle kind of guy, but that's all kinds of wrong wrapped up into one nice little package.

Music is about the feelings you're trying to convey to an audience and it can be about love, politics, nature... anything. There have been uncountable musicians that have successfully separated politics from music for as long as humans have been around. Hell, there are entire volumes of music spanning centuries without even lyrics.

A minute (new window) example of what I'm talking about.

Obdicut: zymurgist: I beg to differ.

Although I may not actually be a hippie, because I have a job and shower at least once a day

It doesn't really matter if you differ. If you want to call yourself a hippie, that's fine, I hope it communicates whatever you want to whoever you want. But as a group designation, it definitely applies to a large group of people for whom mysticism in various stripes is central.

Saying you're an atheist hippie is like saying you're a materialistic Beatnik. It may communicate something, but part of what it communicates is that you don't really fit the group designation.

I disagree. Buddhism as well as Hinduism was influential on the '60s counterculture, and many if not the majority of Buddhists are atheists.

Read all about it

There's nothing contradictory about being a Buddhist hippy, and there is nothing contradictory about being an atheist Buddhist, so there is nothing contradictory about being an atheist hippy. QED.

"At the time, you were thinking that Obama and Clinton were "lame" candidates who represented business as usual. Was there a turning point, a pivotal moment where Obama changed your mind about him-or was it a gradual getting to know him over those long months?"

"I think at the time I probably hadn't seen him speak that much and hadn't felt him out-I was going on my general impression of Dennis versus the rest of the political life. [Laughs]"

Hang on, Ani, did you just admit that you took a firm public political stance on something you were completely ignorant about? Shocking, I tell you, shocking. Your fan base deserves you.

I knew Ani and her husband Andrew about 15 years ago, and this very lightweight article does very little to reveal or clarify her or her views. And this thread mostly just highlights a lot of pigheaded ignorance.

I hear she's got hairy underarms?

I'll never pirate any of her music again.