I'll bet that gets overturned on appeal.

The cops ought to go to this guy's place of employment and scream obscenities at him while he's doing his job.

Aww, did the bad words hurt the pigs' feelings?

Then get the fark off the street if you can't hack some random drunk swearing at you.

dj_bigbird: Aww, did the bad words hurt the pigs' feelings?

Then get the fark off the street if you can't hack some random drunk swearing at you.

Pretty much. Being a police officer requires some thick skin and ability to ignore/blow off insults impassionately. If you can't do that, it might not be the best line of work.

Ditto people who mouth off when arrested - it's expected, just put the guy in the car as you were doing for the original offense and get on with it. Actual assualt is something else obviously, but mouthing off and getting disrespectful? Just let it go. The guy will have time to sober up later while he's waiting around getting processed for his actual charges.

dj_bigbird: Then get the fark off the street if you can't hack some random drunk swearing at you.

Really? So you won't complain if I get drunk and come to your job and start screaming insults at you?

CruiserTwelve: The cops ought to go to this guy's place of employment and scream obscenities at him while he's doing his job.

work tech support for a couple months. cops couldn't handle that level of bile spewing hatred without shoot something.

CruiserTwelve: dj_bigbird: Then get the fark off the street if you can't hack some random drunk swearing at you.

Really? So you won't complain if I get drunk and come to your job and start screaming insults at you?

nope. I'd call that a typical monday.

Not to mention that there's a wide gulf between "complaining about it" and "arresting someone for it."

CruiserTwelve: The cops ought to go to this guy's place of employment and scream obscenities at him while he's doing his job.

That job is called "Retail Employee" and they have to endure that kind of stuff all the time without the gun, tazer, or pepper spray.

In my experience, working in county jails is allot less stressful than working retail. The problem "customers" are behind 1/4" steel where all they can do is yell at you.

itazurakko: Not to mention that there's a wide gulf between "complaining about it" and "arresting someone for it."

I know. the cops were upset 'cause some drunk said mean things to them? christ. man up you thin skinned apple mac using iPod wearing panzies. A waitress in a diner working the o'dark thirty 'drunks just got outta the bars' shift probably has to put up with worse insults for less money every day. AND she can't thrown the drunk assholes into a jail cell either.

itazurakko: Being a police officer requires some thick skin and ability to ignore/blow off insults impassionately. If you can't do that, it might not be the best line of work.

I agree with this, and the vast majority of cops do have said thick skin. It still surprises me when cops arrest stupid drunks for being stupid drunks. It's possible I guess that this idiot was causing a big disruption and the cops used the disorderly conduct charge just to get him out of there before he got his ass kicked by the rest of the crowd.

/doesn't use an apple mac and has never worn an iPod.

CruiserTwelve: The cops ought to go to this guy's place of employment and scream obscenities at him while he's doing his job.

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No matter how hard I try, I can't catch the filter napping.

What are their handles?

I agree with Justice Romero.

Weaver95: I'll bet that gets overturned on appeal.

I doubt it. This was a state supreme court ruling. The only court that could reverse them is the U.S. Supreme Court (since the SD supreme court relied on its own interpretation of the U.S. Constitution). While it's good clean Constitutional fun, I doubt a case like this would get picked out of the 15,000 or so cases that seek Supreme Court review each year.

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CruiserTwelve: The cops ought to go to this guy's place of employment and scream obscenities at him while he's doing his job.

Different jobs have different expectations... dumbass.

Hope no stripper comes over to my place of employment and starts groping me.

Weaver95: I'll bet that gets overturned on appeal.

Did you read TFA, or did I miss some sarcasm? This was decided by the state Supreme Court, so unless the US Supreme Court takes this case (very unlikely), the holding stays.

MasterThief: Weaver95: I'll bet that gets overturned on appeal.

I doubt it. This was a state supreme court ruling. The only court that could reverse them is the U.S. Supreme Court (since the SD supreme court relied on its own interpretation of the U.S. Constitution). While it's good clean Constitutional fun, I doubt a case like this would get picked out of the 15,000 or so cases that seek Supreme Court review each year.

How come the other federal courts can't hear this case? I didn't know you had to jump right to the top right away, what makes this case so?

Well, if he really just started screaming at their car as they drove past, then yes, that was disorderly conduct. Also a dumbass move.

CruiserTwelve: It's possible I guess that this idiot was causing a big disruption and the cops used the disorderly conduct charge just to get him out of there before he got his ass kicked by the rest of the crowd.

First you're an apologist for the cops, and now you're making useless suppositions about the incident.

There are far too many cops that think they're the law -- and most of the bullshiat they do gets covered up. These assholes were abusing their power.

Real justice would be firing and arresting the said cops for unlawfully imprisoning a private citizen for exercising his 1st Amendment Rights.

gund: MasterThief: Weaver95: I'll bet that gets overturned on appeal.

I doubt it. This was a state supreme court ruling. The only court that could reverse them is the U.S. Supreme Court (since the SD supreme court relied on its own interpretation of the U.S. Constitution). While it's good clean Constitutional fun, I doubt a case like this would get picked out of the 15,000 or so cases that seek Supreme Court review each year.

How come the other federal courts can't hear this case? I didn't know you had to jump right to the top right away, what makes this case so?

There are two court systems in the US, federal and state. I'm not positive, but federal courts generally handle civil cases with a lot of damages at stake, or when one side makes a motion to move the jurisdiction from state to federal because the state courts might be unfairly biased.

In order for other federal courts to hear the case, it must have originated in federal court. Because this case originated in a state court, it went through the state court system in its entirety. Hence, the only option left is the US Supreme Court, as the other federal courts are ineligable because the case did not originate in federal court.

At my tech support job presently, and while I don't have much sympathy for the cops in question, if stupidity was a felony I would be among the foremost of federal informants.

A good ruling. Cops think they can do absolutely anything. Wrong.

TFA confused me with its talk of "fighting words" versus "fark you." I understand that you couldn't (legally) tell a cop "I'll follow you home and kill your kids." How about strict observations like "You're fat"? Or how about fictitious things like "I farked your wife and she has a stinky twat"?

I encourage all of the cop hating retards on Fark to try this out on the next cop you see.

In university, I knew a guy who gave the cops both middle fingers and yelled "Eat my shiat coppers, eat my shiat!" at the top of his lungs just as the bar was clearing out. Cop car stopped, they came over and arrested him. He was thrown in the drunk tank for the night and left the next morning with a ticket for being drunk in public.

/was standing right next to him
//guy wasn't all that bright after drinking
///happened in Canada

fark the cop. The court ruled so.

Marcus J. Suhn yelled a stream of profanities beginning with "farking cop" on the sidewalk at 2 a.m. after the bars closed on Sept. 2, 2007, as two police officers were riding down the street in their patrol car. One officer heard Suhn, got out of his patrol car, arrested him and charged him with disorderly conduct.

So, being an asshole is a crime these days. I thought I lived in a free country.

Meierhenry wrote that "the United States Supreme Court has made it clear that in order for speech to fall within the 'fighting words' exception, the words by their very utterance have 'to tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace' under the circumstances of the case."

Exactly. What these guys yelled was nothing. Real fighting words are things like "poltroon," "embryo Caesar," and "You, sir, are an ugly, gawky Yankee-looking fellow."

/links pop to new windows and demand satisfaction

MIguy: I encourage all of the cop hating retards on Fark to try this out on the next cop you see.

When I was an undergrad I told a cop to turn off his goddamn lights because I was trying to get some farking sleep. Compliance was almost immediate, so I'm getting a kick out of this response

/Not a cop hater, though
//Helped that it was 3AM on a school night and I wasn't drunk
///And that I said thank you immediately thereafter
////Slashmania

MIguy: I encourage all of the cop hating retards on Fark to try this out on the next cop you see.

I agree. There are bad cops, but I don't think these were out of line to arrest the guy if he was in fact screaming at passing cars. I probably wouldn't have charged him, though, just left him in jail to sober up for a few hours if he was drunk.

CruiserTwelve: dj_bigbird: Then get the fark off the street if you can't hack some random drunk swearing at you.

Really? So you won't complain if I get drunk and come to your job and start screaming insults at you?

You may not want to enter anyone's front door whilst screaming.

"This man came out of nowhere, broke into my house, and started screaming. I feared for my life."

/My relative told me a story of Chicago cops -- he had a break-in while he was away at a meeting, made a comment about shooting him inside the house --- cops told him that he had to do it indoors, but if he shot him on the front steps, they would carry the body inside
//Gotta love the Chicago cops

sticks and stones, dudes

cops wanna make a big deal
it's cuz they're petty shiitheads

as the court points out

MIguy: I encourage all of the cop hating retards on Fark to try this out on the next cop you see.

Your assholery has been on view for all to see in previous threads.
I think fark has a lot of cop haters, but this doesn't merit punishment.

/pro-cop

Hosebag: In university, I knew a guy who gave the cops both middle fingers and yelled "Eat my shiat coppers, eat my shiat!" at the top of his lungs just as the bar was clearing out. Cop car stopped, they came over and arrested him. He was thrown in the drunk tank for the night and left the next morning with a ticket for being drunk in public.

/was standing right next to him
//guy wasn't all that bright after drinking
///happened in Canada

Was his alias "Tater Salad?"

MIguy: I encourage all of the cop hating retards on Fark to try this out on the next cop you see.

I encourage all Americans not to be afraid to exercise their constitutional rights.

Remember how in one of the RoboCops, the police had gone one strike?
I've wondered what would happen if police really did that. Like if all the cops in a city or state just decided to not work for 24 hours. I bet that would be an interesting day.

MIguy: I encourage all of the cop hating retards on Fark to try this out on the next cop you see.

You're dangerously close to going full retard with that comment. Tone it back a bit. We only tell asshole cops to fark off.

Chinchillazilla: MIguy: I encourage all of the cop hating retards on Fark to try this out on the next cop you see.

I agree. There are bad cops, but I don't think these were out of line to arrest the guy if he was in fact screaming at passing cars. I probably wouldn't have charged him, though, just left him in jail to sober up for a few hours if he was drunk.

That's why we have cops, not machines.... your solution sounds much better.

/In favor of the cool off method
//thinks that people settle down when police show up
///and isn't that what we want?

Yeah, well, police in NE South Dakota are like the farking gestapo. Think they're all powerful and have no problems proving it to people. My uncle used to be police chief in one of those towns and even he says it.

Byno,

Did the same thing: instant compliance. My roomie's pulled the same shtick claiming epilepsy.

itazurakko:
Pretty much. Being a police officer HumanBeing requires some thick skin and ability to ignore/blow off insults impassionately dispassionately. If you can't do that, it might not be the best line of work existence.

Ditto people who mouth off when arrested - it's expected, just put the guy in the car as you were doing for the original offense and get on with it. Actual assualt is something else obviously, but mouthing off and getting disrespectful? Just let it go. The guy will have time to sober up later while he's waiting around getting processed for his actual charges.

Yeah, "Just let it go" would be the LEGAL thing to do. Cops DO seem to have Such a Hard Time Knowing What the LAW IS.


CruiserTwelve: dj_bigbird: Then get the fark off the street if you can't hack some random drunk swearing at you.

Really? So you won't complain if I get drunk and come to your job and start screaming insults at you?

"Complain"? Very much different from LETHAL FORCE.
Also, FARK YOU.
/pigs

Crosshair: That job is called "Retail Employee" and they have to endure that kind of stuff all the time without the gun, tazer, or pepper spray.

You forgot backup -- the Entire Force of American Law Enforcement

/pigs

About 10 years ago, a (very rich) Mexican national was leaving a Dillard's in SanAntonio. Security, Dillard's only uses off-duty cops, holding teh door for him and family. He says. "bullshat" under his breath. The cop killed him. Happens Alla Time.

Finally they can concentrate on real crimes like teenagers smoking weed.

Cops should be able to do whatever they want.

Fano: That's why we have cops, not machines.... your solution sounds much better.

/In favor of the cool off method
//thinks that people settle down when police show up
///and isn't that what we want?

Exactly. Charging him was a dick move if that's really all he did, but I think it was perfectly fine to arrest him. If he'd said it to them instead of yelling it, I don't think they should even have done that. I really don't think this was about the cops being offended by profanity. They were probably just trying to get a yelling drunk off the street.

/thinks about becoming a cop sometimes
//not a big fan of confrontation though

CruiserTwelve: dj_bigbird: Then get the fark off the street if you can't hack some random drunk swearing at you.

Really? So you won't complain if I get drunk and come to your job and start screaming insults at you?

My job isn't dealing with drunk arseholes.

Mr_Master2: gund: MasterThief: Weaver95: I'll bet that gets overturned on appeal.

I doubt it. This was a state supreme court ruling. The only court that could reverse them is the U.S. Supreme Court (since the SD supreme court relied on its own interpretation of the U.S. Constitution). While it's good clean Constitutional fun, I doubt a case like this would get picked out of the 15,000 or so cases that seek Supreme Court review each year.

How come the other federal courts can't hear this case? I didn't know you had to jump right to the top right away, what makes this case so?

There are two court systems in the US, federal and state. I'm not positive, but federal courts generally handle civil cases with a lot of damages at stake, or when one side makes a motion to move the jurisdiction from state to federal because the state courts might be unfairly biased.

In order for other federal courts to hear the case, it must have originated in federal court. Because this case originated in a state court, it went through the state court system in its entirety. Hence, the only option left is the US Supreme Court, as the other federal courts are ineligable because the case did not originate in federal court.

Thanks for the explanation. I always thought it was a linear order and all the federal courts were above the state courts.

Chinchillazilla: I don't think they should even have done that. I really don't think this was about the cops being offended by profanity. They were probably just trying to get a yelling drunk off the street.

After RTFA, I agree. They just arrested him for the wrong thing.

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