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(London Times) Amusing EU's new president says climate change is a myth. He can tell because of the pixels, and because he's seen a few other myths in his day   (timesonline.co.uk) divider line 241
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Snarcoleptic_Hoosier 2009-01-03 12:59:54 PM  
As long as he's super duper cereal about it.

 
meatballion 2009-01-03 12:59:59 PM  
"Myth"

"Yeeeeesssss?"

 
RabidSquirrel 2009-01-03 01:01:16 PM  
I think he needs to Czech his facts.

 
SVenus 2009-01-03 01:02:15 PM  
The Czech is in the male.

 
Portugal. The Man 2009-01-03 01:04:11 PM  
He needs to Czech himself at the door and let Sarkozy retain the presidency.

 
Farque Ewe 2009-01-03 01:04:18 PM  
Regardless of one's politics, the whole man made climate change concern is really starting to fall apart. The good news is that it is better to find out now rather than later after billions have been spent trying to "fix" it.

 
Gumercules 2009-01-03 01:05:29 PM  
Hopefully the EU has a strong system of Czech's and balance..

 
kmmontandon [TotalFark] 2009-01-03 01:07:15 PM  
Farque Ewe: Regardless of one's politics, the whole man made climate change concern is really starting to fall apart.


[citation needed]

Unless you can explain how the polar ice caps are in on the conspiracy.

 
mud_shark 2009-01-03 01:08:29 PM  
Farque Ewe: Regardless of one's politics, the whole man made climate change concern is really starting to fall apart. The good news is that it is better to find out now rather than later after billions have been spent trying to "fix" it.

Beginning to?

I'm all for conservation and reasonable environmental policies, but anyone who isn't a little skeptical of the global warming doomsayers is already clouded by their own personal politics.

 
Richard Saunders 2009-01-03 01:08:47 PM  
Snarcoleptic_Hoosier As long as he's super duper cereal
about it.


Czech's cereal?

 
Gunther 2009-01-03 01:09:25 PM  
"EU's new president"

Goddamnit, subby. I realize the article might be too long for your short-ass attention span, but you could at least read the farking headline:

EU's new figurehead believes climate change is a myth

It's the president of the Czech Republic (the newest EU nation) that the article is talking about, you tool.

Farque Ewe: Regardless of one's politics, the whole man made climate change concern is really starting to fall apart. The good news is that it is better to find out now rather than later after billions have been spent trying to "fix" it.

It's a scientific issue. the scientific consensus and the evidence that supports that consensus is all that matters, not what the president of some random EU country thinks.

 
whatshisname 2009-01-03 01:09:39 PM  
Farque Ewe: Regardless of one's politics, the whole man made climate change concern is really starting to fall apart. The good news is that it is better to find out now rather than later after billions have been spent trying to "fix" it.

You are a moron.
Whether you're trolling or you're serious.
You are a moron.

 
Farque Ewe 2009-01-03 01:10:02 PM  
kmmontandon: Farque Ewe: Regardless of one's politics, the whole man made climate change concern is really starting to fall apart.


[citation needed]

Unless you can explain how the polar ice caps are in on the conspiracy.


South pole has not experienced any shrinkage at all in ice. The North pole did show signs of ice shrinkage last year but the ice has rebounded and then some this year.

 
Man in the Yellow GT Hat 2009-01-03 01:11:20 PM  
Farque Ewe: Regardless of one's politics, the whole man made climate change concern is really starting to fall apart.

Are you kidding me? It's like 70 degrees out right now. In January!

Global warming is real.

 
Nick Nostril 2009-01-03 01:11:25 PM  
So he's another politician on Big Oil's dole then?

/heh

 
vartian [TotalFark] 2009-01-03 01:11:27 PM  
Farque Ewe: Regardless of one's politics, the whole man made climate change concern is really starting to fall apart. The good news is that it is better to find out now rather than later after billions have been spent trying to "fix" it.

Sure it is. It is much better to ignore the problem, create no new jobs, remain hunched over, lapping at the feet of tyrants with oil, and to continue to poison our planet.

Why, what if we spent all that money and all we had to show for it was cleaner air, water and land, and a healthier populace because of it? Why, the absolute horror.

 
mreuther 2009-01-03 01:11:42 PM  
He needs to Czech hisself before he wreck hisself.

 
Kolg8 2009-01-03 01:12:38 PM  
kmmontandon: Unless you can explain how the polar ice caps are in on the conspiracy.

OK. Their part of the conspiracy is melting. They're conspiring with the natural tendency of the earth to heat up and cool down over time.

 
vartian [TotalFark] 2009-01-03 01:13:28 PM  
mud_shark:

I'm all for conservation and reasonable environmental policies, but anyone who isn't a little skeptical of the global warming doomsayers is already clouded by their own personal politics.


Ah, the "anyone who does not believe, even a little, what I believe is blinded by what he believes" argument. No irony there.

 
Farque Ewe 2009-01-03 01:13:39 PM  
whatshisname: Farque Ewe: Regardless of one's politics, the whole man made climate change concern is really starting to fall apart. The good news is that it is better to find out now rather than later after billions have been spent trying to "fix" it.

You are a moron.
Whether you're trolling or you're serious.
You are a moron.


Why is it that anytime someone disagrees with you on an issue you must attack them personally by calling them a troll? Can't you simply stay on subject and debate?

 
whatshisname 2009-01-03 01:13:44 PM  
mud_shark:
Beginning to?

I'm all for conservation and reasonable environmental policies, but anyone who isn't a little skeptical of the global warming doomsayers is already clouded by their own personal politics.


Healthy skepticism is what science is built on. And of course there's some drama over the issue. Drastic change doesn't come about without a bit of fuss.

There is absolutely no denying that our present rate of pollution and resource consumption is not sustainable.

 
Seriously_seriously 2009-01-03 01:13:54 PM  
Farque Ewe: kmmontandon: Farque Ewe: Regardless of one's politics, the whole man made climate change concern is really starting to fall apart.


[citation needed]

Unless you can explain how the polar ice caps are in on the conspiracy.

South pole has not experienced any shrinkage at all in ice. The North pole did show signs of ice shrinkage last year but the ice has rebounded and then some this year.


Again a citation is needed with some scientific backing. Please not an Anglefire site....

/Jim Bob's guide to the planet doesn't count

 
mreuther 2009-01-03 01:13:56 PM  
Farque Ewe: kmmontandon: Farque Ewe: Regardless of one's politics, the whole man made climate change concern is really starting to fall apart.


[citation needed]

Unless you can explain how the polar ice caps are in on the conspiracy.

South pole has not experienced any shrinkage at all in ice. The North pole did show signs of ice shrinkage last year but the ice has rebounded and then some this year.


I remember seeing you on TV in Iraq talking about Saddam's glorious victory.

 
Gunther 2009-01-03 01:14:11 PM  
mud_shark: anyone who isn't a little skeptical of the global warming doomsayers is already clouded by their own personal politics.

Mind if I ask what qualifications you have to summarily overrule 99% of the planet's climatologists on this issue?

 
A Tout Le Monde 2009-01-03 01:14:42 PM  
mud_shark: Farque Ewe: Regardless of one's politics, the whole man made climate change concern is really starting to fall apart. The good news is that it is better to find out now rather than later after billions have been spent trying to "fix" it.

Beginning to?

I'm all for conservation and reasonable environmental policies, but anyone who isn't a little skeptical of the global warming doomsayers is already clouded by their own personal politics.


I'm skeptical, but global warming doomsayers have scientists on their side. And on the other side of the argument is big business. I think I trust the scientists more.

 
Gdalescrboz 2009-01-03 01:16:01 PM  
It's a scientific issue. the scientific consensus and the evidence that supports that consensus is all that matters, not what the president of some random EU country thinks.

The scientific consensus of ecolologist, or anyone else who actually understand "global warming," is that it is a scam. Al Gore, Al Franken, Chris Mathews, Nancy Pelosi, etc., are not qualified scientist on the subject. Its been hard to hear the real truth about global warming becaise it undermines the media's political agenda.

 
Farque Ewe 2009-01-03 01:16:02 PM  
Seriously_seriously: Farque Ewe: kmmontandon: Farque Ewe: Regardless of one's politics, the whole man made climate change concern is really starting to fall apart.


[citation needed]

Unless you can explain how the polar ice caps are in on the conspiracy.

South pole has not experienced any shrinkage at all in ice. The North pole did show signs of ice shrinkage last year but the ice has rebounded and then some this year.

Again a citation is needed with some scientific backing. Please not an Anglefire site....

/Jim Bob's guide to the planet doesn't count


Link

 
Sensei Can You See [TotalFark] 2009-01-03 01:16:20 PM  
Gunther: Goddamnit, subby. I realize the article might be too long for your short-ass attention span, but you could at least read the farking headline:

Boy, if there's one thing I can't stand, it's when people won't just come out and say what they really think. Especially if they blessed us all by taking a break from masturbating to share some butthurtedness with us.

I speak hypothetically, of course.

 
jdmac 2009-01-03 01:18:10 PM  
Gunther: mud_shark: anyone who isn't a little skeptical of the global warming doomsayers is already clouded by their own personal politics.

Mind if I ask what qualifications you have to summarily overrule 99% of the planet's climatologists on this issue?


[citation needed]
*An Inconvenient Truth does not count

 
Farque Ewe 2009-01-03 01:18:50 PM  
Seriously_seriously: Farque Ewe: kmmontandon: Farque Ewe: Regardless of one's politics, the whole man made climate change concern is really starting to fall apart.


[citation needed]

Unless you can explain how the polar ice caps are in on the conspiracy.

South pole has not experienced any shrinkage at all in ice. The North pole did show signs of ice shrinkage last year but the ice has rebounded and then some this year.

Again a citation is needed with some scientific backing. Please not an Anglefire site....

/Jim Bob's guide to the planet doesn't count


Another link to prove my point...sorry
Link

 
Its_A_Tarp 2009-01-03 01:19:54 PM  
Gunther:


It's a scientific issue. the scientific consensus and the evidence that supports that consensus is all that matters, not what the president of some random EU country thinks.


The Czech Republic is not some random EU country.

They currently hold the presidency of the EU. While Vaclav Klaus isn't the president of the EU, that's a disingenuous argument because there IS no single farking president of the EU. It's part of the Lisbon Treaty but that obviously hasn't been ratified (yet).

So while the subby made a mistake in claiming that Klaus was the president, your post proves that you too fail at life.

 
Seriously_seriously 2009-01-03 01:20:13 PM  
Farque Ewe:

Link


I one year blip does not disqualify the therory.

/Lets learn statistics!!!!

 
A Tout Le Monde 2009-01-03 01:21:18 PM  
Gdalescrboz: It's a scientific issue. the scientific consensus and the evidence that supports that consensus is all that matters, not what the president of some random EU country thinks.

The scientific consensus of ecolologist, or anyone else who actually understand "global warming," is that it is a scam. Al Gore, Al Franken, Chris Mathews, Nancy Pelosi, etc., are not qualified scientist on the subject. Its been hard to hear the real truth about global warming becaise it undermines the media's political agenda.


No one is claiming that they are scientists. They are spokespersons. Scientists gather data, run experiments, and share their findings. They don't go on TV and tell us what to do, that's not part of their job description.

Your attempt to change the argument into whether Al Gore et al are scientists, has failed.

 
whatshisname 2009-01-03 01:21:50 PM  
Farque Ewe: Seriously_seriously: Farque Ewe:
South pole has not experienced any shrinkage at all in ice. The North pole did show signs of ice shrinkage last year but the ice has rebounded and then some this year.

Again a citation is needed with some scientific backing. Please not an Anglefire site....

Link



It's odd how hundreds of years of warming isn't enough to prove the theory, but one year of cooling is enough to refute it.

 
Sylvia_Bandersnatch 2009-01-03 01:22:00 PM  
Farque Ewe: kmmontandon: Farque Ewe: Regardless of one's politics, the whole man made climate change concern is really starting to fall apart.


[citation needed]

Unless you can explain how the polar ice caps are in on the conspiracy.

South pole has not experienced any shrinkage at all in ice. The North pole did show signs of ice shrinkage last year but the ice has rebounded and then some this year.


Are you ever right about anything?

 
Gunther 2009-01-03 01:22:57 PM  
Gdalescrboz: The scientific consensus of ecolologist, or anyone else who actually understand "global warming," is that it is a scam.

you know, just stating your opinion as fact does not magically make it true.


You Can't Fix Stupid: Boy, if there's one thing I can't stand, it's when people won't just come out and say what they really think. Especially if they blessed us all by taking a break from masturbating to share some butthurtedness with us.

Now, why would you think I need to take a break from masturbating to post? I'm a multitasker, dammit.

Its_A_Tarp: While Vaclav Klaus isn't the president of the EU, that's a disingenuous argument because there IS no single farking president of the EU.

I never said there was.

 
Guess_Who 2009-01-03 01:22:59 PM  
whatshisname: Farque Ewe: Regardless of one's politics, the whole man made climate change concern is really starting to fall apart. The good news is that it is better to find out now rather than later after billions have been spent trying to "fix" it.

You are a moron.
Whether you're trolling or you're serious.
You are a moron.


Al Gore, is that you?

 
Sensei Can You See [TotalFark] 2009-01-03 01:23:22 PM  
Seriously_seriously: I one year blip does not disqualify the therory.

Temps going up? Global warming.

Temps going down? Global warming.

Floods? Global warming.

Drought? Global warming.

Nothing unusual? Global warming.

Earthquakes? Global warming.

Shark attacks? Global warming.

Sandy vagina? Global warming.

This is your brain. This is your brain on global warming.

Any questions?

 
awutwut 2009-01-03 01:23:32 PM  
kmmontandon: Farque Ewe: Regardless of one's politics, the whole man made climate change concern is really starting to fall apart.


[citation needed]

Unless you can explain how the polar ice caps are in on the conspiracy.


Then join the fight to stop global warming... stop breathing, thanks.

 
Seriously_seriously 2009-01-03 01:24:33 PM  
Farque Ewe:
Another link to prove my point...sorry
Link


Link (new window)

Maybe look around the sites that you like handing out...

 
cryinoutloud [TotalFark] 2009-01-03 01:25:17 PM  
Just so, because I've got 300 brazillion dollars in the dead pool for the entire planet, when we all go to war over the last remaining petroleum reserves.

We're all going to be dead, but I'm going to be rich!

 
Kolg8 2009-01-03 01:25:32 PM  
I'm skeptical, but global warming doomsayers have scientists on their side. And on the other side of the argument is big business. I think I trust the scientists more.

Oh, I forgot. A scientist studying global warming doesn't having a vested interest in concluding that its man made.

I conclude that global warming is not man made, but a natural, cyclical occurence. Now please, give me more grant money so I can study this non-event further.

 
shirtsbyeric 2009-01-03 01:26:51 PM  
Richard Saunders: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier As long as he's super duper cereal
about it.

Czech's cereal?


You're a punny guy!

 
Spanky_McFarksalot 2009-01-03 01:27:40 PM  
Man in the Yellow GT Hat: Are you kidding me? It's like 70 degrees out right now. In January!

Yeah, I just spent a lot of December shoveling record global warming.

 
Farque Ewe 2009-01-03 01:28:14 PM  
Seriously_seriously: /Lets learn statistics!!!!

"Lets learn statistics!!!!"
Teach us smart guy

 
Commander Lysdexic 2009-01-03 01:29:44 PM  
Two global warming threads back-to-back?

Activist mods on the case!

 
Gunther 2009-01-03 01:30:24 PM  
Kolg8: Oh, I forgot. A scientist studying global warming doesn't having a vested interest in concluding that its man made.

You do not understand how scientific grant funding works. If you managed to show any evidence that contradicted an established theory, you'd have funding bodies throwing grant money at you. The person who disproved global warming would win a Nobel prize.

 
shirtsbyeric 2009-01-03 01:30:29 PM  
vartian: Farque Ewe: Regardless of one's politics, the whole man made climate change concern is really starting to fall apart. The good news is that it is better to find out now rather than later after billions have been spent trying to "fix" it.

Sure it is. It is much better to ignore the problem, create no new jobs, remain hunched over, lapping at the feet of tyrants with oil, and to continue to poison our planet.

Why, what if we spent all that money and all we had to show for it was cleaner air, water and land, and a healthier populace because of it? Why, the absolute horror.


$200 a barrel oil, people in third world counties starving, Massive unemployment stateside due to cap and trade and we spend "all that money" to achieve this.

now tel us again about the "5 million green collar jobs"

 
Tyee 2009-01-03 01:31:36 PM  
He is right.

 
Farque Ewe 2009-01-03 01:31:50 PM  
whatshisname: Farque Ewe: Seriously_seriously: Farque Ewe:
South pole has not experienced any shrinkage at all in ice. The North pole did show signs of ice shrinkage last year but the ice has rebounded and then some this year.

Again a citation is needed with some scientific backing. Please not an Anglefire site....

Link


It's odd how hundreds of years of warming isn't enough to prove the theory, but one year of cooling is enough to refute it.


The consensus is that worldwide temps have increased .7 degrees over the past 100 years. Considering how small that increase is, and the dubious temperature gathering methods employed over the past century, I hardly want to gamble my economic future over such a "trend".

 
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