| 4 B.C. men rescued from ski hill's out-of-bounds area. Out of bounds or not, 2013 years is a long time to wait for a rescue (cbc.ca) | 77 |
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| blinkin | 2009-01-03 11:05:03 AM |
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| Hiro's Protagonist | 2009-01-03 04:27:50 PM |
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/01/02/bc-grouse-mountain-a v alanche.html
We were not rescued. We knew the terrain very well and there is a clearly marked trail that leads out of the zone that we were skiing. Moreoever, we were skiing in 25-30 degree slopes below the tree line. The report produced by the North Shore Avalanche Advisory Group this morning called for low to moderate avalanche conditions below the tree line in this area. We were all baffled when a helicopter arrived within 15 minutes of our entry to the zone that we had skied. The helicopter provided no assistance whatsoever to our ability in walking for 10 minutes to get back to the ski lift. Had we been unaccounted for for a few hours, then calling a helicopter for a rescue would have made sense. But we were literally outside the ski area for 15 minutes before the rescue team was called. This makes little sense to us, as there was no evidence that we were in danger. We had not been gone for more than 15 minutes, we had not sent out a distress signal, and we had not attempted to call or contact any emergency services. We were equipped with avalanche equipment. We had maps and gps equipment for the area, as well as summer seasonal knowledge of the surrounding terrain. The helicopter was unnecessarily called too quickly. As one previous comment said, why didn't the patrollers just wait at the bottom of the lift for us to come back? In any event, we made a bad decision to ski outside the ski area boundary and the mountain did a good job in making sure that we were ok. However, It seems unfair that we should be billed for a service that was not asked for or even required.
I am with North Shore Rescue, and was directly involved in this search. Firstly I must say that we are very happy that this call had a positive outcome. SAR members like to bring people out safe and sound, recoveries are not something we enjoy.In this case the subject was very lucky to come out alive. His experience is something to learn from, so that no one has to go through the horrendous survival situation he did. Take the time to educate yourself on wilderness safety, and make sure your friends and family do the same. Education is really one of the greatest forms of prevention in these cases.
As far as charging for rescues, North Shore Rescues policy is simple: we do not support charging for rescues, ever. We want people to call without hesitation because the earlier we get the call, the earlier we can start investigating and searching (increasing the probability of survival by huge margins). Other factors which contribute to why we don't support charging are that we don't want untrained rescue teams being formed by the family, as this can lead to: 1) More lost subjects 2) More injured subjects 3) Mass confusion ultimately hindering searching for the actual person in distress. Like I said earlier, SAR members prefer to bring people home alive to their loved ones. Also remember, don't rely on your cell phone, tell someone responsible where you are going (a detailed trip plan) and when they should call 911 if they have not heard from you. We can't start looking unless we know you are in trouble.
We know mistakes happen, we want people to be responsible for their own actions, and make sure they are well prepared before enjoying what BC has to offer. When it comes down to it, we are there for those in need no matter the circumstances of their distress. I encourage anyone who is interested in the back country (experienced or not) to check out your local search and rescue teams website for advice, as well make sure you know the sunsets, weather, avalanche conditions and make responsible decisions. (ex. unfavourable avalanche conditions = choose another activity or stay in the controlled ski area)
For more information on North Shore Rescue and recreating on the North Shore you can visit http://www.northshorerescue.com or join our facebook fan page at http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pages/North-Vancouver-BC/North-Shore-Rescue/53 103571350?ref=nf and post your questions directly on the discussion board.
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| Hiro's Protagonist | 2009-01-03 05:14:27 PM |
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