FTA: "Robert, 11, is described as a "minor with multiple disabilities," including Asperger's syndrome, mood disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, anxiety disorder, intermittent explosive disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, sensory integration disorder, central auditory processing disorder and a traumatic brain injury, court documents show."

Sounds like a case of hyperactive helicopter parent syndrome. Oh, and the neighbors' comments are priceless...

I had Intermittent explosive disorder that week I made soymeat chili with habaneros and cheddar.

"intermittent explosive disorder" is now a disorder

I have this. It's triggered by Taco Bell food.

Cake Hunter: soymeat chili with habaneros and cheddar.

Holy crap...was this a suicide attempt??

Whack that kid up with about 30mg/day of mixed amphetamine salts and watch that behavior vanish.

Coolhaus: Whack that kid up with about 30mg/day of mixed amphetamine salts and watch that behavior vanish.

Isotope: i62.photobucket.com

Yeah yeah. Now imagine if you replaced Hobbes with an evil spirit that tells you to break things and set fires.

Isotope: Cake Hunter: soymeat chili with habaneros and cheddar.

Holy crap...was this a suicide attempt??

It was actually pretty good. It rendered my apartment unusable for entertaining guests for a few weeks, but man...

Robert, 11, is described as a "minor with multiple disabilities," including Asperger's syndrome, mood disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, anxiety disorder, intermittent explosive disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, sensory integration disorder, central auditory processing disorder and a traumatic brain injury, court documents show.

Sounds like a case of lack of boot in the ass syndrome.

bunner: Robert, 11, is described as a "minor with multiple disabilities," including Asperger's syndrome, mood disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, anxiety disorder, intermittent explosive disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, sensory integration disorder, central auditory processing disorder and a traumatic brain injury, court documents show.

Sounds like a case of lack of boot in the ass syndrome.


No, it sounds like a severely damaged child. This kid will never be able to live on his own, or take care of himself, so why spend $40-50k a year "educating" him?

There is a middle ground between Dickensian cruelty towards the mentally ill or impaired, and spending absurd amounts of time and money hoping they become "normal".

There are people who are so mentally disabled or impaired that they will never be functional. The problem is, everyone thinks that "their kid" can be mainstreamed.

what_now: There are people who are so mentally disabled or impaired that they will never be functional.


Well then I have A Modest Proposal to help take care of the overflow population....

what_now: No, it sounds like a severely damaged child. This kid will never be able to live on his own, or take care of himself, so why spend $40-50k a year "educating" him?

There is a middle ground between Dickensian cruelty towards the mentally ill or impaired, and spending absurd amounts of time and money hoping they become "normal".

There are people who are so mentally disabled or impaired that they will never be functional. The problem is, everyone thinks that "their kid" can be mainstreamed.

If you read the comments of the neighbors, it sounds like the kid is higher functioning than the parents make him out to be... to the point of letting him run around the neighborhood unsupervised (which is OK, but usually not something you'd associate with Victor the Vegetable).

buzzvert: t sounds like the kid is higher functioning than the parents make him out to be... to the point of letting him run around the neighborhood unsupervised

Just because he can be physically active doesn't mean that he'll ever be able to hold a job.

what_now: Just because he can be physically active doesn't mean that he'll ever be able to hold a job.

Three words: Mall security guard

OH, and:

buzzvert: FTA: "Robert, 11, is described as a "minor with multiple disabilities," including Asperger's syndrome, mood disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, anxiety disorder, intermittent explosive disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, sensory integration disorder, central auditory processing disorder and a traumatic brain injury, court documents show."

Sounds like a case of hyperactive helicopter parent syndrome. Oh, and the neighbors' comments are priceless...

It strikes me that most of the items on that laundry list of disorders could be symptoms of Asperger's.

what_now: bunner: Robert, 11, is described as a "minor with multiple disabilities," including Asperger's syndrome, mood disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, anxiety disorder, intermittent explosive disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, sensory integration disorder, central auditory processing disorder and a traumatic brain injury, court documents show.

Sounds like a case of lack of boot in the ass syndrome.


No, it sounds like a severely damaged child. This kid will never be able to live on his own, or take care of himself, so why spend $40-50k a year "educating" him?

There is a middle ground between Dickensian cruelty towards the mentally ill or impaired, and spending absurd amounts of time and money hoping they become "normal".

There are people who are so mentally disabled or impaired that they will never be functional. The problem is, everyone thinks that "their kid" can be mainstreamed.

There ya go. Brain injury? There's no telling what this kid could do. Combined with anger problems....he doesn't need to be in school.

Tuition for the year-round school costs between $40,000 and $50,000 a year, which the school district has been paying for three years.

Think what that money could do for a brilliant student. But instead of educating the next Nobel Prize winner, you are teaching someone not to eat paste.

FTFA: Robert, 11, is described as a "minor with multiple disabilities," including Asperger's syndrome, mood disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, anxiety disorder, intermittent explosive disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, sensory integration disorder, central auditory processing disorder and a traumatic brain injury, court documents show.

9 separate and distinct mental health issues that will cost this boy's caregiver (and he will have one for a long time) in both a financial and an emotional sense.

You know, $0.10 really isn't that much to pay...
/wishes people would give up on "every child is special"
//Misses Carlin

Robert, 11, is described as a "minor with multiple disabilities," including Asperger's syndrome, mood disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, anxiety disorder, intermittent explosive disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, sensory integration disorder, central auditory processing disorder and a traumatic brain injury, court documents show.

Jesus Christ, just have him put down. We just don't have the resources to cater for people who will be a massive drain on society for their entire lives. Euthanasia has a bad press because of you-know-who but there is much to be said for it.

Snarfangel: Think what that money could do for a brilliant student. But instead of educating the next Nobel Prize winner, you are teaching someone not to eat paste.

Correction. You're teaching someone that eating paste is perfectly acceptable for someone who is handicapable and that nobody should ever judge them for it.

what_now: bunner: Robert, 11, is described as a "minor with multiple disabilities," including Asperger's syndrome, mood disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, anxiety disorder, intermittent explosive disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, sensory integration disorder, central auditory processing disorder and a traumatic brain injury, court documents show.

Sounds like a case of lack of boot in the ass syndrome.


No, it sounds like a severely damaged child. This kid will never be able to live on his own, or take care of himself, so why spend $40-50k a year "educating" him?

There is a middle ground between Dickensian cruelty towards the mentally ill or impaired, and spending absurd amounts of time and money hoping they become "normal".

There are people who are so mentally disabled or impaired that they will never be functional. The problem is, everyone thinks that "their kid" can be mainstreamed.

Let them do what they want so long as in the end they bring flowers to Algernon's grave.

At what point does this whole house of cards society collapse?

buzzvert: what_now: Just because he can be physically active doesn't mean that he'll ever be able to hold a job.

Three words: Mall security guard

There's more than just that. Why, I'll bet this strapping young lad has a bright future as a ditch digger, police officer, or he could even be a future GOP nominee for Vice President.

It sounds more like the parents are pissed at losing their free therapist-babysitters. They also sound like idiots - that laundry list of SYMPTOMS followed with "oh, yeah, and traumatic brain injury!" Organic problems like that are accepted much more freely by the public than these idiotic "acting out" problems that are always trotted out. Had they handled this better, they might not have ended up looking like assholes.

The demand for their free and adequate education, though, puts the cherry on the turd. We don't spend money to teach quadruple amputees to square dance, and we don't spend 20x the usual per-student costs to keep one family's precious little spacker from smearing his shiat on the walls. What ever happened to the good old days, when people were appropriately ashamed of their drooling, diapered relatives and kept them away from polite, own-shoe-tying society?

/not entirely trolling

Secret Agent X23
It strikes me that most of the items on that laundry list of disorders could be symptoms of Asperger's.



Ding, Ding, Ding! They are all symptoms. My nephew has it and functions quite well. Often times it is about how the PARENT handles it. Treat the kid like he has a dysfunction and is special, and they will act that way. Treat them like they are normal, but pay attention to their special needs and they will act normal. Oh and beat their precious little butt every now and then.

Snarfangel: Tuition for the year-round school costs between $40,000 and $50,000 a year, which the school district has been paying for three years.

Think what that money could do for a brilliant student. But instead of educating the next Nobel Prize winner, you are teaching someone not to eat paste.

Agreed. In most cities a couple of kids could go to a decent private school for this money and a reasonable return on the public's "investment" could be expected. Otherwise, yeah- if this kid can manage eating paste or anything else for that matter without putting an eye out (his or someone else's) then I guess that's a good day.
Or maybe the money could be used to place him somewhere where he could really get the right treatment that he apparently needs- not just some high-end school the parent's feel they're entitled to.

Daddy's Big Pink Man-Squirrel: It sounds more like the parents are pissed at losing their free therapist-babysitters. They also sound like idiots - that laundry list of SYMPTOMS followed with "oh, yeah, and traumatic brain injury!" Organic problems like that are accepted much more freely by the public than these idiotic "acting out" problems that are always trotted out. Had they handled this better, they might not have ended up looking like assholes.

We don't spend money to teach quadruple amputees to square dance, ?



Nooooooow, grab your partner and spin 'em....oh. Sorry.

Isotope:

+1 for you sir, I hadn't seen that for awhile. Powerful stuff.

I hear one can obtain amazing results with this radical new "spanking theory".

Wait, he has Asperger's? So he'll become an engineer?

Lord Summerisle: I hear one can obtain amazing results with this radical new "spanking theory".

Yeah, that would TOTALLY solve the problem!

/or not

sounds like my day yesterday after eating a large movie theater buttered popcorn.

Asperger's, maybe. Many of those "symptoms" are also signs of a spoiled brat.

bingethinker: Asperger's, maybe. Many of those "symptoms" are also signs of a spoiled brat.

So he could also then be a career politician. We should be happy they are taking this much time. This may be our future president!

Potential snowflake reifecta.

Lord Summerisle: I hear one can obtain amazing results with this radical new "spanking theory".

SIT DOWN AND STUDY!

As a school teacher with a couple students with similar symptoms, I hope the district just ponies up the money for a private school.

I have a student with similar issues. His OCD is off the charts. For the past couple weeks, he developed a Hughesian fear of germs. If another student, even on the other side of the room, sneezed or coughed, Anthony let out a scream and pulled out an economy-sized bottle of hand sanitizer. He then dispensed 14-odd squirts into his hand and slathered it on his hands, arms, face, and writing implements.

8th graders, being mischevious, would then provide Anthony with another fake sneeze or cough, and we'd repeat the scenario all over again. He has a full time aid, who is currently getting a B in my class. Anthony can't focus long enough on a specific task to put his name on the paper, let alone cite properties of alkali metals.

It's of course very sad. Anthony didn't volunteer to have a drug-addicted mother who abused him terribly during his infancy, but I have another 35 students who are being cheated due to the "Anthony Show" that dominates every class.

I'm sorry, maybe I'm the idiot here, but just what else is there that is more than "one-on-one" education?

It's one student and one specialist at a cost of $30k+ per school year.

One $30k+ teacher. For one kid. But that's not enough; mom wants more teachers for her one kid.

What gets cut first--the entire art department? How about the computer lab; that IT guy makes the same as a SpecEd teacher. Oh, I know, we can cut back on the specialist science and math for the kids with the high IQs. Or maybe the music department will finally lose the last of its ever-dwindling funding. Who needs to learn music anyway?

I long for the days when special kids were shipped to special schools. My brother was, at least until his school was closed and they were all mainstreamed. Talk to him and he'll tell you that's when he stopped learning anything useful to someone like him.

Reason 142 why NOT to have children.

Ever.

/don't we have enough of the little buggers running around spreading disease?

tonesskin: Wait, he has Asperger's? So he'll become an engineer?

Full speed ahead.

what_now: There are people who are so mentally disabled or impaired that they will never be functional. The problem is, everyone thinks that "their kid" can be mainstreamed.

Yep. And then because of those parents, their little broken children end up in classrooms. Insisting that their child is "special needs" (like needing a cage) is offensive, so they biatch and complain till they get put into the normal classes. Assuming the school is even funded enough to have a Special Ed. department in the first place.

Since no kid can be left behind, the teacher is then forced to spend 90% of her time taking care of the little broken shiats while everyone else in the classroom suffers.

Which makes everything just great come standardized test time, when you're 12 chapters behind the curriculum because the educator was forced to spend her time babysitting a hyperactive retard instead of teaching.

Coolhaus: what_now: There are people who are so mentally disabled or impaired that they will never be functional.


Well then I have A Modest Proposal to help take care of the overflow population....

That was rather swift of you.

Worcester or Teriyaki Style?

Intermittent Explosive Disorder isn't new.

/STFU!!!

I'd be interested in hearing how the clinician disentangled all those disorders from one another.

/sounds like BS to me, but who knows

get him on an ice flow before globing warming takes them all.

what_now: bunner: Robert, 11, is described as a "minor with multiple disabilities," including Asperger's syndrome, mood disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, anxiety disorder, intermittent explosive disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, sensory integration disorder, central auditory processing disorder and a traumatic brain injury, court documents show.

Sounds like a case of lack of boot in the ass syndrome.


No, it sounds like a severely damaged child. This kid will never be able to live on his own, or take care of himself, so why spend $40-50k a year "educating" him?

There is a middle ground between Dickensian cruelty towards the mentally ill or impaired, and spending absurd amounts of time and money hoping they become "normal".

There are people who are so mentally disabled or impaired that they will never be functional. The problem is, everyone thinks that "their kid" can be mainstreamed.

THIS.

One of the in-laws has a kid that is on the low-functioning side of Asperger's, unfortunately, the kid will never be able to do anything on his own, and the dad's in denial. He really thinks that his son will learn to drive, get married and have a completely normal existence.

Now, while the kid doesn't understand the complexities of social functioning, dad has never disciplined him, never tried to get him the help he really needs (home-schooling in this instance has turned out for the worst), and has never faced up that there's really no one to take care of the kid after he's gone. Mom is an obese former drug addict that'll be pushing up daisies in five to ten years, and the half-sister, who seems the only half-sensible one in the immediate family, has no power of attorney right now and has her own problems with finances and personal demons.

It's a sad picture.

Gash: Jesus Christ, just have him put down. We just don't have the resources to cater for people who will be a massive drain on society for their entire lives. Euthanasia has a bad press because of you-know-who but there is much to be said for it.


Lord Voldemort?

As a parent of a special needs child, this is complete and utter BS.

If your child really, truly, has all those disorders, you don't put them into a normal classroom. Any parent who cares any about at least giving their child a CHANCE of at least living a semi-independant life in a situation like this needs them to learn - and if the school is willing (not many are) to do 1 on 1 teaching, so be it.

The parents don't have the best interest of the child in mind at all, just their own "image".

/Goes through this battle once a year in court with ex-wife, for some strange reason she can never get an expert to say she is right and I am wrong.