Perhaps if he used harsher language...

Troubled implies surprised?

UN Secretary-general Ban Ki-moon said with a straight face

I read that as Bam Ka-boom. Now THAT would be a cool name.

O RRY?

Awwwwwwwwwww poor baby.

How about not catering to some of the biggest a**holes in the world and helping the Palestinians get a new, better government?

How about fighting the massive corruption around the world that keeps poor people poor?

How about figuring out a plan to help Africa instead of just sending food and hoping things will work out.

Knob.

The Gaza problem is not going to be solved unless Hamas is evicted and hopefully wiped out.

They are root of this current conflict.

Israel pulled out of Gaza, and Hamas is bent on wiping that country out.

There can be no peaceful coexistance.

"I am profoundly troubled that the call of this council, issued nearly four days ago, for an end to the violence has gone unheeded"


Take THAT, you windmill!

They couldn't make the meeting, as it was very important for them to maintain the UN's normally scheduled Donut Runs and Pillow Fights.

Nice that Israel is defending herself. Maybe if the UN did something to stop hammas, Israel wouldn't have to.

Rrrriiiiiight.

M-O-O-N, that spells Moron: "and that we will pursue political dialogue, and only political dialogue, to reunite Gaza with the West Bank..."

So is he calling for Gaza to be reoccupied by Israel?

If you people want the UN to have more teeth, then give them a standing army.

Else, shut up about it.

You are making us very angry, and we will write a latter saying so.

Manfred J. Hattan: M-O-O-N, that spells Moron: "and that we will pursue political dialogue, and only political dialogue, to reunite Gaza with the West Bank..."

So is he calling for Gaza to be reoccupied by Israel?

Have Israel pull out all the illegal settlements in the WestBank. Deport the population of GAza there. problem solved.

hahawinnipeg: Awwwwwwwwwww poor baby.

How about not catering to some of the biggest a**holes in the world and helping the Palestinians get a new, better government?

How about fighting the massive corruption around the world that keeps poor people poor?

How about figuring out a plan to help Africa instead of just sending food and hoping things will work out.

Knob.

How about not pretending that the UN isn't the biggest fekkin diplomatic and financial boondoggle in the history of mankind?

Im so bored of this shat, they have been killing each other since i can remember. Im all for letting them take the gloves off and end this how it may. At least with one of them total annihilation it would be over and off the news. Plus it will increase the gore footage on liveleak.com

Maybe the utter irrelevance of the U.N. will finally start to sink in to Ban Ki-Moon.

I always read that guy's name and think of Bleach.

Mr. Right: Maybe the utter irrerrevance of the U.N. will finally start to sink in to Ban Ki-Moon.

ftfy

Antimatter
If you people want the UN to have more teeth, then give them a standing army.

Else, shut up about it.

I have another solution, disband this useless clusterfark of an organization and start over only with democratic nations.

The UN must enforce its resolutions, or it becomes irrelevant. What's that you say, it has no means to enforce them other than the cooperation of a few powerful members? Sounds like a big ol' fail train to me.

Englebert Slaptyback: "I am profoundly troubled that the call of this council, issued nearly four days ago, for an end to the violence has gone unheeded"


Take THAT, you windmill!

Bad example. At least Quixote was an inspiring example.

/Don't make me break forth with "The Impossible Dream."

Antimatter: If you people want the UN to have more teeth, then give them a standing army.

Else, shut up about it.

Army or no army, who do you think is keeping the UN out of Gaza?

Can this thread finally be free of the bullshiat memes?

• This isn't about Hamas started it

• The Gaza withdrawal was a method strengthen Israel's hold on its more numerous settlements in the West Bank and to freeze the (U.S. pushed) political process as a way to indefinitely block the creation of a Palestinian state.

This conflict goes back to the ninteenth century, and focusing on non-core issues is really going to get everyone nowhere, fast.

This will take more than a letter. Perhaps a strongly worded email?

You know, the sheer weight of solid foreign policy experience in this room is staggering. How did all of you learn so much about this subject? Refugee camp in Gaza? Kibbutz in Haifa?

Ohhhh...that's right. The internet. Never mind.

Englebert Slaptyback

Take THAT, you windmill

Awesome. Well done, indeed!

Antimatter
If you people want the UN to have more teeth, then give them a standing army.

Else, shut up about it.

Wow, talk about an inflammatory statement. Can you imagine the cases of apoplexy that would derive from the UN having their own force?! We would be awash in skull fragments and bits of grey matter. It would be the back seat of the Nova from Pulp Fiction on a national scale.

Not really shocked.

/hot like Israel's nukes

Maybe the Palestinians could stop firing missiles into Israel and then use their own children as shields when the retaliation happens? I guess that cease fire thing is just too hard to abide by.

The US/USSR/PRC cut the balls off the UN long ago. They got the toothless tiger they wanted.

One under-discussed factor with the US is that because UNRWA is devoted to maintaining the Palestinians as stateless refugees, the international collection of Sir Humphrey Applebeys have a stake in aiding Hamasistan.

I am so glad Israel is telling the world to pound sand on this matter. It's a tragedy for the civilians of Gaza, of course, but Hamas wants dead civilians, Palestinian and Israeli. The latter are their martial objectives. The former for propoganda amongst their Islamic bretheren and useful idiots outside Dar Al Islam. Anyhow, Hamas did say the 'cease fire' was over. So they should be happy, even when their leaders get sent to their 72 rasins in small shreds.

/As Oscar Wilde said, 'It takes a heart of stone not to laugh.'

Party Boy: Can this thread finally be free of the bullshiat memes?

• This isn't about Hamas started it

• The Gaza withdrawal was a method strengthen Israel's hold on its more numerous settlements in the West Bank and to freeze the (U.S. pushed) political process as a way to indefinitely block the creation of a Palestinian state.

This conflict goes back to the ninteenth century, and focusing on non-core issues is really going to get everyone nowhere, fast.

Um, Hamas did start it by launching rockets immediately after thr truce was over.

These Onion satire articles are getting lamer and lamer. We got the joke about 4 sentences in, but it kept going and going on the same theme.

Antimatter: If you people want the UN to have more teeth, then give them a standing army.

Else, shut up about it.

Right, because a) they do such a good job with everything else and 2) the armed forces previously under their command have been such sterling examples.

Amazingly enough, my dogs' gas-attacks did nothing to improve the situation either.

Ban-Ki Moonbat

Antimatter: If you people want the UN to have more teeth, then give them a standing army.

Else, shut up about it.

More UN troops? Don't you care about the rights of farm animals in Gaza?

The muslim blue helmets are too busy getting sent home with serious injuries to their penises after trying to have sex with East Timor goats.

Link

I have no idea what you're talking aboot so here's a picture of a boy shagging a turtle.

TheGreatGildersleeve

Bad example. At least Quixote was an inspiring example.


The cessation of hostilities in Gaza is indeed a worthy goal, and it's not hard to see how one might be inspired to resolve the ongoing conflict. The current UN [and other] efforts have the same (if not slightly lower) chance of success that our friend DQ had.

Let Israel & Hamas go and handle this amongst themselves. Nobody else needs to get involved. They're grown adults. If they have a difference as to who's dick is bigger & they want to solve that dispute with rockets, tanks, and guns, so be it. The world needs less of their kind anyway. They are doing the rest of the world a favor by killing each other off...

...but should this disgusting, infantile piece of violence spill beyond the borders of Israel or the Gaza strip, both should be summarily nuked without warning. No radio broadcast to save the children who'll end up being suicide bombers like their parents, no flyers from high above, no warning whatsoever; just a good carpet nuking to clear the slate & start over.

Hamas, you're dumb for thinking that you're causing Israel any distress. They'd sacrifice their own if necessary.

Israel, you're dumb for trying to swat a fly with missiles. What, did the PMs wife cheat with the leader of Hamas? Ouch...

In summary, fark YOU BOTH.

...this shiat is getting old.

Swampthing in Korea: m, Hamas did start it by launching rockets immediately after thr truce was over.

For farks sake.

Gotta

repost it again.

I'm gonna repost this here because of all the "who started" it nonsense

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I'm continuing to find articles on this and chase down a timeline.  So far, this is the most concise summary I've found.  Any comments or additions are greatly appreciated.

June 19 - Ceasefire between Hamas (in Gaza) and Israel.   [Reuters]

• June 20
- Israeli army troops near the border east of the southern Gaza town of Rafah opened fire towards Palestinian farmers working in al-Amoor, according to U.N. sources. No injuries reported.
- Israeli troops east of el-Maghazi camp opened fire towards Palestinian farmers, according to U.N. sources. No injuries reported.
- Israeli marine vessels fired towards Palestinian fishermen west of Beit Lahiya, according U.N. sources. No injuries reported.

• June 21
- Israeli marine vessels opened fire at Palestinian fishing boats west of Beit Lahiya, according to U.N. sources. No injuries reported.
- Israeli troops at the border north east of the el-Maghazi camp opened fire towards Palestinian farmers, according to U.N. sources. No injuries reported.

• June 23
- Palestinians fired a mortar shell into southern Israel from the Gaza Strip, according to the Israeli army. No one hurt.
- Israeli troops near the border north-west of Beit Lahiya opened fire at a group of people collecting wood, seriously wounding a 70-year-old man, according to U.N. sources.

• June 24
- Islamic Jihad militants fired rockets into southern Israel, the militant group and the Israeli army said. No casualties. The rocket fire followed Israel's killing of two Palestinians in the occupied West Bank, an area not covered by the ceasefire.

• June 25
- Israeli troops east of Rafah opened fire toward farmers, according U.N. sources. No injuries reported.
- Israeli troops stationed near Khan Younis opened fire towards Palestinian farmers. An 82-year-old farmer was seriously injured, according to U.N. sources.

• June 26
- Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, a militant group belonging to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah faction, fired one rocket into southern Israel, the group and the Israeli army said. (Reporting by Adam Entous; edited by Richard Meares)
Then, the region was "mostly quieted".

On November 4th, while most of us were watching the U.S. presidential elections, another series of escalations started.  The IDF entered a refugee camp in Gaza to destroy a tunnel, then fighting broke out, where one Palestinian was killed. Then Hamas fired mortars, killing 0, and Israel launches airstrikes, killing 4 more Palestinians. Then things started to ramp up.
(November 14) At least 16 Palestinian rockets and an Israeli air strike shook the Holy Land yesterday, claiming few casualties and no fatalities but pushing a fragile five-month-old ceasefire to the brink of collapse.

"Both sides are in a kind of escalating cycle that is very difficult to get out of," warned Gen. Shlomo Brom, former chief of strategic planning for the Israel Defense Forces. "I am not sure the two parties are in full control of the situation."
....

Yesterday's flurry of hostilities followed nine days of repeated ceasefire violations by both sides that began when Israeli forces entered Gaza Nov. 4 to destroy a tunnel they said was to be used to kidnap Israeli troops. Palestinians responded with rocket fire, and hostilities on both sides have continued.

Israeli strikes have killed 11 Palestinians since Nov. 4.
In all, roughly 140 rockets or mortar shells have been fired at Israel in the same period. In response, Israel has closed its borders with Gaza and halted the supply of food, medicine and fuel to the territory

Just stop it now. Stop.

Antimatter: If you people want the UN to have more teeth, then give them a standing army.

Else, shut up about it.

I thought that's what the US was for?

Swampthing in Korea:

Um, Hamas did start it by launching rockets immediately after thr truce was over.

Actually they were launching rockets during the 'truce.' They merely increased the number after.

Six decades, plus and the Arabs are STILL caught by surprise when the Jews shoot back.

Wolfmanjames: Actually they were launching rockets during the 'truce.'

Stop. Just stop the bullshiat. its not helping anyone.

Take Hamas...to Detroit!

Funk Brothers: Take Hamas...to Detroit!
Detroit...

Further complicating matters is that fact that Gaza is the size of Detroit, with one and a half times as many people. The military and government facilities of Hamas are intertwined with buildings where Gaza's civilian population lives and works. Israelis say Hamas fires rockets at Israel from civilian neighborhoods.

"I am profoundly troubled that the call of this council, issued nearly four days ago, for an end to the violence has gone unheeded,"

And I am profoundly troubled that my call for sex from that smoking hot waitress in Oak Ridge has gone unheeded.

Party Boy: Swampthing in Korea: m, Hamas did start it by launching rockets immediately after thr truce was over.

For farks sake.

Gotta repost it again.

I'm gonna repost this here because of all the "who started" it nonsense

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I'm continuing to find articles on this and chase down a timeline.  So far, this is the most concise summary I've found.  Any comments or additions are greatly appreciated.

June 19 - Ceasefire between Hamas (in Gaza) and Israel.   [Reuters]

• June 20
- Israeli army troops near the border east of the southern Gaza town of Rafah opened fire towards Palestinian farmers working in al-Amoor, according to U.N. sources. No injuries reported.
- Israeli troops east of el-Maghazi camp opened fire towards Palestinian farmers, according to U.N. sources. No injuries reported.
- Israeli marine vessels fired towards Palestinian fishermen west of Beit Lahiya, according U.N. sources. No injuries reported.

• June 21
- Israeli marine vessels opened fire at Palestinian fishing boats west of Beit Lahiya, according to U.N. sources. No injuries reported.
- Israeli troops at the border north east of the el-Maghazi camp opened fire towards Palestinian farmers, according to U.N. sources. No injuries reported.

• June 23
- Palestinians fired a mortar shell into southern Israel from the Gaza Strip, according to the Israeli army. No one hurt.
- Israeli troops near the border north-west of Beit Lahiya opened fire at a group of people collecting wood, seriously wounding a 70-year-old man, according to U.N. sources.

• June 24
- Islamic Jihad militants fired rockets into southern Israel, the militant group and the Israeli army said. No casualties. The rocket fire followed Israel's killing of two Palestinians in the occupied West Bank, an area not covered by the ceasefire.

• June 25
- Israeli troops east of Rafah opened fire toward farmers, according U.N. sources. No injuries reported.
- Israeli troops stationed near Khan Younis opened fire towards Palestinian farmers. An 82-year-old farmer was seriously injured, according to U.N. sources.

• June 26
- Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, a militant group belonging to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah faction, fired one rocket into southern Israel, the group and the Israeli army said. (Reporting by Adam Entous; edited by Richard Meares)
Then, the region was "mostly quieted".

On November 4th, while most of us were watching the U.S. presidential elections, another series of escalations started.  The IDF entered a refugee camp in Gaza to destroy a tunnel, then fighting broke out, where one Palestinian was killed. Then Hamas fired mortars, killing 0, and Israel launches airstrikes, killing 4 more Palestinians. Then things started to ramp up.
(November 14) At least 16 Palestinian rockets and an Israeli air strike shook the Holy Land yesterday, claiming few casualties and no fatalities but pushing a fragile five-month-old ceasefire to the brink of collapse.
"Both sides are in a kind of escalating cycle that is very difficult to get out of," warned Gen. Shlomo Brom, former chief of strategic planning for the Israel Defense Forces. "I am not sure the two parties are in full control of the situation."
....

Yesterday's flurry of hostilities followed nine days of repeated ceasefire violations by both sides that began when Israeli forces entered Gaza Nov. 4 to destroy a tunnel they said was to be used to kidnap Israeli troops. Palestinians responded with rocket fire, and hostilities on both sides have continued.

Israeli strikes have killed 11 Palestinians since Nov. 4.
In all, roughly 140 rockets or mortar shells have been fired at Israel in the same period. In response, Israel has closed its borders with Gaza and halted the supply of food, medicine and fuel to the territory Just stop it now. Stop.

The Arab Muslim got use to pushing infidels around. Now the Israelis are learning to push back.

TheGreatGildersleeve: Antimatter: If you people want the UN to have more teeth, then give them a standing army.

Else, shut up about it.

Right, because a) they do such a good job with everything else and 2) the armed forces previously under their command have been such sterling examples.

Well then what are they supposed to do, eh? They are toothless because they have to rely on others to fight on their behalf. The only way to fix this woudl be to give them a standing force.


You cannot complain someone is toothless then deny them teeth. That's hypocritical.

As for dissolving them and replacing them with only democratic nations? Like democracies can't be just as bad. How many people died as a result of US action alone in the last half of the 20th and the 21st so far? What about rendition, kidnapping, murder, secret prisons, etc, that we run and maintain?