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(CNN) Interesting Iraqis take control of Baghdad Green Zone on Thursday, plan to have it renamed Red Zone by Friday   (cnn.com) divider line 59
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ceremony_1968 [TotalFark] 2009-01-01 10:44:07 AM  
Oh, don't give me that White Zone shiat, smitty.

 
cmunic8r99 [TotalFark] 2009-01-01 11:55:08 AM  
i'm sooo glad i don't work there any more.

 
SchlingFocker [TotalFark] 2009-01-01 01:17:46 PM  
I'm glad to see that the Iraqis have really stepped up, but who here actually believes we'll withdraw all troops by 2011?

 
SmackLT [TotalFark] 2009-01-01 02:07:56 PM  
ceremony_1968: Oh, don't give me that White Zone shiat, smitty.

Oh really, Vernon? Why pretend, we both know perfectly well what this is about. You want me to have an abortion.

 
RanDomino 2009-01-01 03:32:11 PM  
PoopStain
This is big. Iraq will turn on this point, for better or worse.

al-Sadr portraits on the US Embassy by fall.

 
Bucky Katt [TotalFark] 2009-01-01 03:36:59 PM  
Mission Accomplished!!!

 
The First 2009-01-01 03:38:45 PM  
's being too generous. I was thinking more like Thursday morning: Green Zone...Thursday night: Red Zone

 
Alphax 2009-01-01 03:39:16 PM  
SchlingFocker: I'm glad to see that the Iraqis have really stepped up, but who here actually believes we'll withdraw all troops by 2011?

I've been asking for an immediate pullout for 5 years. I'm going to keep asking. But it's going to be harder to keep them there.

 
Renowned transvestite sexologist 2009-01-01 03:40:45 PM  
RanDomino:
al-Sadr portraits on the US Embassy by fall.


I'm with you. I'm of the opinion that Al Sadr is the beginnings of Hamas in Iraq. He and his kind will be voted in, but the result isn't going to be our friends.

 
NeverDrunk23 2009-01-01 03:48:03 PM  
SmackLT: ceremony_1968: Oh, don't give me that White Zone shiat, smitty.

Oh really, Vernon? Why pretend, we both know perfectly well what this is about. You want me to have an abortion.


We should just close the thread right now.

 
Goodfella 2009-01-01 03:50:20 PM  
Renowned transvestite sexologist: RanDomino:
al-Sadr portraits on the US Embassy by fall.

I'm with you. I'm of the opinion that Al Sadr is the beginnings of Hamas in Iraq. He and his kind will be voted in, but the result isn't going to be our friends.




Why would they be our friends? We threw their country into chaos, destroyed their economy, purged the nation of Sunnis, and killed tens of thousands of their people. Look how pissed off we were when Saudi Arabians killed only 3000 of our people on September 11. You expect the Iraqis to be happy about what we've done to them?

 
quatchi 2009-01-01 03:55:24 PM  
FTFA: It requires Iraqi approval for all military operations and gives Iraqi courts the right to try U.S. troops and contractors for "grave premeditated felonies"

Blackwater et al exit stage right in a Keystone cops kinda fashion.

How well the "permission asking" thing will go in practise is anyone's guess but Quatchi aint particularily optimistic.

The self contained bubble of plenty in the open air prison city that is the new improved ethnically cleansed Baghdad will remain a target fer years to come.

Particularily the American Embassy, the largest one evar built and the most obvious symbol of American hubris and realpolitik intentions beyond the diplomatically stated niceties.

 
Donald_McRonald 2009-01-01 03:56:31 PM  
Renowned transvestite sexologist: I'm with you. I'm of the opinion that Al Sadr is the beginnings of Hamas in Iraq. He and his kind will be voted in, but the result isn't going to be our friends.

But they owe us!

 
rppp01a 2009-01-01 04:08:21 PM  
Donald_McRonald: Renowned transvestite sexologist: I'm with you. I'm of the opinion that Al Sadr is the beginnings of Hamas in Iraq. He and his kind will be voted in, but the result isn't going to be our friends.

But they owe us!


That explains our love of the french, doesn't it?

 
jcooli09 2009-01-01 04:10:38 PM  
Good for them. Let's give them the rest of the country tomorrow.

 
Renowned transvestite sexologist 2009-01-01 04:11:07 PM  
Goodfella:
The tone of your post is quite badgering. You sir, even though we obviously AGREE, are an asshat.

 
Erebus1954 2009-01-01 04:18:10 PM  
The First: 's being too generous. I was thinking more like Thursday morning: Green Zone...Thursday night: Red Zone

...Friday morning: Liberals declare defeat
...Friday afternoon: Hillary emails Obama tentative surrender plans so they can 'hit ground running'

 
ZipSplat 2009-01-01 04:23:00 PM  
SchlingFocker: I'm glad to see that the Iraqis have really stepped up, but who here actually believes we'll withdraw all troops by 2011?

The SOFA only says we are withdrawing combat troops. We will still have a lot of people there, including a lot of Special Forces doing FID and COIN missions. It is absolutely unreasonable that we completely leave any time soon.

Flag waving aside, Iraq is a fledgling democracy and the alternative to this is a failed state like that of Afghanistan in the late 80s and early 90s. While some would find solace in a political victory of complete withdrawal, I don't think any rational person who actually has to accept responsibility for the consequences decisions made would advocate for a complete withdrawal.

We mighta shouldnta gone there in the first place (at least not how we did) but we're there now and leaving isn't going to make anyone better off except hippies and jihadis.

 
colon_pow 2009-01-01 04:25:41 PM  
this is good news for freedom loving people around the world.

this is bad news for 95% of farkers

 
Tenebreux 2009-01-01 04:35:29 PM  
RanDomino: PoopStain
This is big. Iraq will turn on this point, for better or worse.

al-Sadr portraits on the US Embassy by fall.


Wait, do you mean by Autumn, or do you mean just before the Embassy falls?

 
penthesilea [TotalFark] 2009-01-01 04:43:43 PM  
So......party time?

 
Guess_Who 2009-01-01 04:44:34 PM  
SchlingFocker: I'm glad to see that the Iraqis have really stepped up, but who here actually believes we'll withdraw all troops by 2011?

Who said "all"?

Once we withdraw all combat brigades in 2011, there will still be a small US presence.

 
shirtsbyeric 2009-01-01 04:44:52 PM  
Come on, the whole world loves us now.

 
apeiron242 2009-01-01 05:01:04 PM  
This is just another sign of the impending civil war and failed puppet government. Next thing you know there will be fewer bombings as things go further and further into chaos.

 
thenateman 2009-01-01 05:04:53 PM  
Don't kid yourself that Obama will withdraw all U.S. troops from Iraq. He'll come up with a fancy justification and the Democrats will lap it up.

 
ZipSplat 2009-01-01 05:31:08 PM  
thenateman: Don't kid yourself that Obama will withdraw all U.S. troops from Iraq. He'll come up with a fancy justification and the Democrats will lap it up.

The justification is already made.

Nobody is calling for a complete withdrawal except maybe Cindy Sheehan and Muqtada al-Sadr. And even their calls are of dubious intent seeing as how their attention whoring is heavily dependent on a U.S. presence in Iraq.

 
saintstryfe 2009-01-01 05:32:38 PM  
thenateman: Don't kid yourself that Obama will withdraw all U.S. troops from Iraq. He'll come up with a fancy justification and the Democrats will lap it up.

Um, shyte for brains, that's what a whole lot of people have wanted for a long time.

I don't personally, I want a phased redeployment to Afghanistan, with long recovery periods for the troops, especially those with families. But I do want them out as fast as prudence justifies.

 
ramathorn83 2009-01-01 05:52:41 PM  
Iraq may have to worry about insurgents entering the Red Zone, but I know of one group who can't even get close to any Red Zone: the Buffalo Bills

 
shirtsbyeric 2009-01-01 06:03:54 PM  
I predict that we win Iraq and lose Afghanistan.

 
67 Beetle 2009-01-01 06:11:27 PM  
shirtsbyeric: I predict that we win Iraq and lose Afghanistan.

I don't think it's possible to win either. We just waste money and men every day we're in both places.

/Get out now

 
Death to America 2009-01-01 06:13:25 PM  
Renowned transvestite sexologist: I'm with you. I'm of the opinion that Al Sadr is the beginnings of Hamas in Iraq. He and his kind will be voted in, but the result isn't going to be our friends.

Is Hamas the new Al-Qaeda? i guess it's easy to label those who put their own interest above the U.S's as the next (insert group that's getting killed currently). Personally I think the resistance should chill over there and see if Obama keep his promoise, but just like the Gaza penal colony, your always going to have some ass hat launching a rocket/or blowing himself up. Don't support em, but I don't blame them, doesn't mean I get gitty on the news that some asshole just raptured up a load of civilians. Only a real terrorist would do that....

 
Fark Me To Tears [TotalFark] 2009-01-01 06:18:53 PM  
Do you think we can go about the business of finding bin Laden now?

I would really love to see him paraded in front of the entire world, in handcuffs and wearing an orange jumpsuit.

 
Ontos 2009-01-01 06:29:22 PM  
Fark Me To Tears: Do you think we can go about the business of finding bin Laden now?

I would really love to see him paraded in front of the entire world, in handcuffs and wearing an orange jumpsuit.


.... and the bleeding hearts would probably be falling all over themselves about how we're being unfair, or mistreating him.

 
Bucky Katt [TotalFark] 2009-01-01 06:30:30 PM  
Fark Me To Tears: Do you think we can go about the business of finding bin Laden now?

I would really love to see him paraded in front of the entire world, in handcuffs and wearing an orange jumpsuit.


who?

 
Death to America 2009-01-01 06:32:45 PM  
Fark Me To Tears: Do you think we can go about the business of finding bin Laden now?

I would really love to see him paraded in front of the entire world, in handcuffs and wearing an orange jumpsuit.


He has been dead dumbass, watching idiots like yourself and even our politicians(I'm talking about you Joe Biden) still talk about catching Usama is just down right sad. The administration knew more about the 9/11 attacks beforehand than Usama did. Can the people have their media back now Israel?

 
Ontos 2009-01-01 06:37:03 PM  
Death to America: Fark Me To Tears: Do you think we can go about the business of finding bin Laden now?

I would really love to see him paraded in front of the entire world, in handcuffs and wearing an orange jumpsuit.

He has been dead dumbass, watching idiots like yourself and even our politicians(I'm talking about you Joe Biden) still talk about catching Usama is just down right sad. The administration knew more about the 9/11 attacks beforehand than Usama did. Can the people have their media back now Israel?


Are you really this retarded? You sound like some idiotic college-kid spouting conspiracy theory BS in a coffee shop to try and get the attention of some chick with a nose-ring and a Che T-shirt.

 
doctor wu 2009-01-01 06:49:48 PM  
The red zone is for the immediate loading and unloading of insurgents only.

 
dofus 2009-01-01 06:55:37 PM  
RanDomino: al-Sadr

Why haven't we blasted this summabiatch to the moon by now?

 
birdboy2000 2009-01-01 07:09:09 PM  
So, how IS Iraq's offense inside the twenty yard line?

 
libbynomore2 2009-01-01 07:14:41 PM  
Military Times Poll:

www.armytimes.com

 
NeverDrunk23 2009-01-01 07:15:19 PM  
Fark Me To Tears: Do you think we can go about the business of finding bin Laden now?

I would really love to see him paraded in front of the entire world, in handcuffs and wearing an orange jumpsuit.


Who the hell is that? Some kind of new boy band the kids are listening to nowadays?

 
spamdog [TotalFark] 2009-01-01 07:33:16 PM  
Ontos: Are you really this retarded? You sound like some idiotic college-kid spouting conspiracy theory BS in a coffee shop to try and get the attention of some chick with a nose-ring and a Che T-shirt.

Haw haw! You on the other hand, are Floor Humper Guy.

(this is a bit late now)

 
Aracnix 2009-01-01 07:48:31 PM  
The Red Zone is for the loading and unloading of pass-...eng...

*sighs*

Rats, I missed the clock for the Airplane reference.

 
brynaldo 2009-01-01 08:04:39 PM  
ZipSplat: SchlingFocker: I'm glad to see that the Iraqis have really stepped up, but who here actually believes we'll withdraw all troops by 2011?

The SOFA only says we are withdrawing combat troops. We will still have a lot of people there, including a lot of Special Forces doing FID and COIN missions. It is absolutely unreasonable that we completely leave any time soon.

Flag waving aside, Iraq is a fledgling democracy and the alternative to this is a failed state like that of Afghanistan in the late 80s and early 90s. While some would find solace in a political victory of complete withdrawal, I don't think any rational person who actually has to accept responsibility for the consequences decisions made would advocate for a complete withdrawal.

We mighta shouldnta gone there in the first place (at least not how we did) but we're there now and leaving isn't going to make anyone better off except hippies and jihadis.


Are you willing to kill America so Iraq can live?

 
ZipSplat 2009-01-01 08:25:38 PM  
brynaldo: ZipSplat: SchlingFocker: I'm glad to see that the Iraqis have really stepped up, but who here actually believes we'll withdraw all troops by 2011?

The SOFA only says we are withdrawing combat troops. We will still have a lot of people there, including a lot of Special Forces doing FID and COIN missions. It is absolutely unreasonable that we completely leave any time soon.

Flag waving aside, Iraq is a fledgling democracy and the alternative to this is a failed state like that of Afghanistan in the late 80s and early 90s. While some would find solace in a political victory of complete withdrawal, I don't think any rational person who actually has to accept responsibility for the consequences decisions made would advocate for a complete withdrawal.

We mighta shouldnta gone there in the first place (at least not how we did) but we're there now and leaving isn't going to make anyone better off except hippies and jihadis.

Are you willing to kill America so Iraq can live?


That is such a ridiculous false dilemma on so many levels. Unless you were trolling, in which case I give you a 7/10.

 
libbynomore2 2009-01-01 08:31:53 PM  
NeverDrunk23 Quote 2009-01-01 07:15:19 PM
Fark Me To Tears: Do you think we can go about the business of finding bin Laden now?

I would really love to see him paraded in front of the entire world, in handcuffs and wearing an orange jumpsuit.

Who the hell is that? Some kind of new boy band the kids are listening to nowadays?



No, he's some dead or at least totally irrelevant guy ( hard to know since no one has heard from in 4 years )that was the leader of Al Qaeda but has seen nearly all of his top soldiers either captured or killed and the majority of the dumbasses who would strap on bombs for him vaporized.

Some people who, thank God are in charge of nothing actually think that it's critical that we waste resources trying to get him.

/rolling out a casket or a stretcher in front of the cameras does not constitute a " perp walk. "

 
maddogdelta [TotalFark] 2009-01-01 08:48:34 PM  
Renowned transvestite sexologist: but the result isn't going to be our friends.

You mean after invading, destroying the infrastructure, killing hundreds of thousands of them, sparking a civil war, all because there were WMD's in Iraq that really weren't there, that they aren't going to be our friends? Unpossible!

 
Hideously Gigantic Smurf 2009-01-01 09:10:57 PM  
libbynomore2: Military Times Poll:

35% are uncertain?
That makes sense, he hasn't made any executive decisions yet.

 
Fark Me To Tears [TotalFark] 2009-01-01 09:30:26 PM  
Death to America: He has been dead dumbass, watching idiots like yourself and even our politicians(I'm talking about you Joe Biden) still talk about catching Usama is just down right sad. The administration knew more about the 9/11 attacks beforehand than Usama did. Can the people have their media back now Israel?


libbynomore2: Some people who, thank God are in charge of nothing actually think that it's critical that we waste resources trying to get him.


Oh.
Well, thank you both for setting me straight and putting me in my place.
I wasn't aware that there was a Special Olympics competition for wannabe foreign affairs experts.

 
Tenebreux 2009-01-01 09:50:09 PM  
libbynomore2: Military Times Poll:

The military are so proud of their history, they still get a little pissy that they don't get to acclaim Emperors anymore.

 
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