Illinois has just the governor for you, Indy.

It's that bad for the state budget.

"We named the DOG Indiana".

I live 40 miles west of the Indiana line in Illinois, and even that's too close. I'm always afraid that John Mellencamp is going to sneak over the border and force me to listen to his folksy, home-spun yarns about the blue-collar, work-a-day world until I buy a large, domestic-made pickup truck and move to the country to bale hay and live a simple farmer's life.

Hasn't happened yet, but I know ol' John Cougar's out there, waiting to convert me to the hick side.

I grew up in Indiana. I'm actually in Indianapolis right now. It's a stupid law, but I guess it's not so bad around here if you're an older yuppy trying to raise a family. For now, leave me to my city life.

Just got back from my parent's house in the Hoosier State. They're trying to get me to move back.

Indiana Pros: Cheap beer, cheap food, cheap housing, cheap everything.

Indiana Cons: You have to live in Indiana.

/when the world ends, i'm moving back to indiana because everything happens 10 years later there

I'm wondering how much it's going to take before the Citizens of the United States wake up and give every politician, banker, lobbyist, & CEO of some failed company a good reaming up the ass with a red hot spiky metal dildo...fark GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WHO GIVE THEMSELVES RAISES. THEY DO NOT DESERVE IT. THE ONLY THING THEY DESERVE IS A RED HOT SPIKY METAL DILDO INSERTED DIRECTLY UP THEIR ASS...

Rapmaster2000: /when the world ends, i'm moving back to indiana because everything happens 10 years later there

I just got back from NWI as well (my parents moved there when I was an adult), that about sums it up. Not a bad place I suppose (I've made my peace with it, initially dismissing the entire state as a bunch of hicks), but you won't find me moving there anytime soon.

zadron: I'm wondering how much it's going to take before the Citizens of the United States wake up and give every politician, banker, lobbyist, & CEO of some failed company a good reaming up the ass with a red hot spiky metal dildo...fark GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WHO GIVE THEMSELVES RAISES. THEY DO NOT DESERVE IT. THE ONLY THING THEY DESERVE IS A RED HOT SPIKY METAL DILDO INSERTED DIRECTLY UP THEIR ASS...

Ah ... dude ... chill - its a medium size city in some hick state that doesn't have a proper governance system in place. This is a news to you how?

This may be a surprise to you but most states and companies do have proper governance systems in place and you are getting ticked off at a few outliers.

According to the Fark articles over time, every single state in the US is unbearable to live in. Also the government is oppressive and incompetent.

But it's a great place to live!

bravian: its a medium size city in some hick state

Says the guy in Minnesota.

bravian: Ah ... dude ... chill - its a medium size city in some hick state that doesn't have a proper governance system in place. This is a news to you how?

This may be a surprise to you but most states and companies do have proper governance systems in place and you are getting ticked off at a few outliers.

This is not "a news"...

As for proper?

One word: CALIFORNIA.

Two more words: NEW YORK.

And a nation that spends over 20 billion dollars each year enforcing marijuana prohibition is....proper?

Three more words: EVERYTHING IS farkED!

The farking congress did the same thing recently. They voted themselves a farking raise. They don't farking deserve a farking raise. They deserve a farking dock in pay and a good reaming up the ass with the red hot spiky metal dildo.

This is why this nation is going in the shiatter. Government & corporations can fark citizens right up the ass and all the citizens do is bend over for more.

zadron: The farking congress did the same thing recently. They voted themselves a farking raise. They don't farking deserve a farking raise. They deserve a farking dock in pay and a good reaming up the ass with the red hot spiky metal dildo.

Actually, congress didn't vote themselves a raise. It's automatic, I believe. That way they can tell their constituents, "I didn't vote for any pay raise."

I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: zadron: The farking congress did the same thing recently. They voted themselves a farking raise. They don't farking deserve a farking raise. They deserve a farking dock in pay and a good reaming up the ass with the red hot spiky metal dildo.

Actually, congress didn't vote themselves a raise. It's automatic, I believe. That way they can tell their constituents, "I didn't vote for any pay raise."

Yep, I was right:

For the fifth year in a row, lawmakers voted not to reject their automatic "cost of living" raise that will increase the annual salary of members by $3,400 to a total of $158,103 per year.

In 1989, Congress passed an amendment allowing for the automatic raises, unless lawmakers specifically voted to reject it. Which Congress did, until 2000.

bravian: Ah ... dude ... chill

zadron: Three more words: EVERYTHING IS farkED!



Look, nothing is farked, here, man.



Nothing is FARKED? The goddamn PLANE has crashed into the mountain!

I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: For the fifth year in a row, lawmakers voted not to reject their automatic "cost of living" raise that will increase the annual salary of members by $3,400 to a total of $158,103 per year.

That's less than inflation, so they're actually taking an effective pay-cut

Mistah Scrotie: I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: For the fifth year in a row, lawmakers voted not to reject their automatic "cost of living" raise that will increase the annual salary of members by $3,400 to a total of $158,103 per year.

That's less than inflation, so they're actually taking an effective pay-cut

I REFUSE to believe Congress has secretly been being effective.

Mistah Scrotie: That's less than inflation, so they're actually taking an effective pay-cut

How noble. Unless you count all the perks and free shiat they get.

If you really want to get pissed off, read a story about all the shiat congress gets in addition to their rather large salary and turn on C-Span. The ones who actually show up are usually either asleep or squabbling like children.

I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: Actually, congress didn't vote themselves a raise. It's automatic, I believe. That way they can tell their constituents, "I didn't vote for any pay raise."

Yep, I was right:

For the fifth year in a row, lawmakers voted not to reject their automatic "cost of living" raise that will increase the annual salary of members by $3,400 to a total of $158,103 per year.

In 1989, Congress passed an amendment allowing for the automatic raises, unless lawmakers specifically voted to reject it. Which Congress did, until 2000.

Thank you for doing the research. Now I'm just wondering what your point is because the difference between voting a raise for yourself and not voting against it is the same thing that sits between your ears: NOT A farkING THING.

yousmellysmellycack: Last I checked we don't have the kind of Constitutional opportunity to vote for corporate representation. Please stop using the two terms as if they were interchangable. I know they both suck ass -- I agree -- but the reality is that (1) our gov't sucks as a direct result of our collective irresponsibility, where we were to actually watch over our elected reps [e.g. the system itself works, as long as it's followed properly], whereas (2) corporatism is a bad joke that has been played out on humanity [e.g. it's a de facto shiatty system that no amount of due diligence can keep under control].

/let me guess - you thought ron paul was coming to save us... ?

You guessed wrong. It isn't the president that's going to save this country. It is the event that kills off about 70-90% of the people living in it with no purpose other than consuming...

Hey, try Hawaii.
We're incompetent...AND expensive!

/which means you're fine if you're a beach bum, pothead, valley girl, or retiree who demands better than Florida. Other than that, not so much.

d976: Illinois has just the governor for you, Indy.

It's Hammond, so it actually borders Chicago, it's just as corrupt though.

zadron: ...fark GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WHO GIVE THEMSELVES RAISES. THEY DO NOT DESERVE IT. THE ONLY THING THEY DESERVE IS A RED HOT SPIKY METAL DILDO INSERTED DIRECTLY UP THEIR ASS...

Dude, government officials should not be allowed to okay hot spiky metal dildos for their own asses. Pretty soon the whole state spiky dildo budget will be totally farked. And worse, all the warmers for the hot part. there is a reason that subs at Quiznos cost like 3x as much as cold subs elsewhere.

Typical conservative. Pfft. Man you just really need to learn how to budget more. When the roads aren't being snowplowed because everyone at the DMV is waddling around with a butt full of hot cocoa spike-a-thon you'll feel sorry for voting for the Hot Spiky Dildo Ordinance.

The headline is wrong, but it's Fark. Government employees in Indiana cannot give themselves raises. Gus down at the Motor Vehicle Department in Muncie cannot add zeros to his paycheck.

A specific local government employee who also was on the local governing body that controlled raises for the local department for which this specific employee worked gave himself and his buddies a raise. This specific employee took advantage of a loophole in Indiana law allowing civil servants to hold elective office in positions where they control salaries for the agency at which they work in their day-to day-jobs. Yeah, that is a stupid law.

Here in New York that can't happen as we New York civil servants cannot hold elective office in any governing body where we can influence our salaries or any other aspect of the agency at which we work. I work with a guy who is on his town council and he had to get all sorts of permissions to even run for office. Since we're a state agency they let him run locally. We even have to get written permission to hold a second job lest there be a conflict of interest. I would like to give myself a raise, though.

Tourney3p0: According to the Fark articles over time, every single state in the US is unbearable to live in. Also the government is oppressive and incompetent.

But it's a great place to live!

LOL yup. Truth is though, every state (lower 48) is pretty much the same. You have 1, sometimes 2 major cities and the rest is farm land and urban sprawl (well desert in some cases, but you know what I mean).

I spent two weeks in Jasper Indiana a few years ago for training and it was the most miserable two weeks of my life. All there was to do was go to the liquor store, go to Walmart or get hammered at the Holiday Inn bar. But there were plenty of fat chicks to be had.

Endzone108: I spent two weeks in Jasper Indiana a few years ago for training and it was the most miserable two weeks of my life. All there was to do was go to the liquor store, go to Walmart or get hammered at the Holiday Inn bar. But there were plenty of fat chicks to be had.

Come on now...using a trip to Jasper as a way to hate on Indiana is like using a trip to Bulgaria as a way to hate on Europe.

Besides...you want miserable, you spend two weeks in Terre Haute.

Mugato: Mistah Scrotie: That's less than inflation, so they're actually taking an effective pay-cut

How noble. Unless you count all the perks and free shiat they get.

If you really want to get pissed off, read a story about all the shiat congress gets in addition to their rather large salary and turn on C-Span. The ones who actually show up are usually either asleep or squabbling like children.

Yeah, I'm outraged that we pay the nation's leaders a competitive wage or give them INSANE!!! perks like free mail! OMG IM SO PISSED OFF I CANT THINK STRAIGHT! MY LITTLE ANGRY JEALOUS PROLE MIND IS WORKING OVERDRIVE! IT CANT COPE!

/Or is that your little angry jealous prole mind?
//My bad, it is yours.

Tourney3p0: According to the Fark articles over time, every single state in the US is unbearable to live in. Also the government is oppressive and incompetent.

But it's a great place to live!

Every single city is the same...same strip malls, same TV stations, same suburbs, same rotting industry, same slums.

America is just shiat you see out your car window.

ilambiquated: Tourney3p0: According to the Fark articles over time, every single state in the US is unbearable to live in. Also the government is oppressive and incompetent.

But it's a great place to live!

Every single city is the same...same strip malls, same TV stations, same suburbs, same rotting industry, same slums.

America is just shiat you see out your car window.

THIS...I live in Indiana but anyone who has to road travel extensively...yeah, same stuff different places.

Jasper? you base Indiana off of Jasper? At least head to New Albany...

Hint: stay out of Southern Indiana and Kokomo.

JaMorg:
Hint: stay out of Southern Indiana and Kokomo.

Remember Bob's Country Bunker in the Blues Brothers? That's Kokomo. They even say, "We're sure glad to be in Kokomo tonight" before getting beers tossed at them LOL.

/stopped and had a beer in Kokomo on my way through once or twice.

I am originally from Hammond, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/and you bet your ass I got the hell out.
//not that IL is a significant improvement.

My in-laws live in various points all over Indiana, and when we lived there, about once a year or so, we'd have to drive from the Indy area to Warsaw. Which means going through Wabash, which has the highest church per capita ration of ANY city I have ever seen. Seriously, I counted at least 20 churches, and that was just the ones off of the main road.

By the way, I present, for further review, Crawfordsville: One college, one liquor store, one movie theater. I it weren't for the high speed internet connection (God, do I miss my T1.), there wouldn't have been much to do.

deltabourne: /Or is that your little angry jealous prole mind?
//My bad, it is yours.

Easy, tiger. They get a lot more than free meals. And originally, serving in congress was supposed to be just that, service. The founding fathers never intended for them to be treated like a board of directors or for them to make a career out of it.

Someone defending congress. Has the world gone mad?

Mugato: deltabourne: /Or is that your little angry jealous prole mind?
//My bad, it is yours.

Easy, tiger. They get a lot more than free meals.

Meal, mail (franking - Barney? Is that you?), same difference.

On topic, I guess, I love Indiana. Well, parts of Indiana. Mostly Bloomington and southwards. It is a beautiful state. Granted, I don't live there. But I did.

Now, north of Martinsville? You can keep that all to your own damn self. Especially in winter. Raped f*cking earth.

hyperspacemonkey:
Dude, government officials should not be allowed to okay hot spiky metal dildos for their own asses. Pretty soon the whole state spiky dildo budget will be totally farked. And worse, all the warmers for the hot part. there is a reason that subs at Quiznos cost like 3x as much as cold subs elsewhere.

Typical conservative. Pfft. Man you just really need to learn how to budget more. When the roads aren't being snowplowed because everyone at the DMV is waddling around with a butt full of hot cocoa spike-a-thon you'll feel sorry for voting for the Hot Spiky Dildo Ordinance.

Who the fark said they need to ok it? It should be a farking consequence for not farking voting against their automatic raise while the economic picture continues to fark footballs. And I'm farking sure that there are a whole bunch of people who can figure out how the fark to make their own spiked anal probe, start a fire, & heat that bad boy up. Whether or not they have the intestinal fortitude (or the brass farking nuggets) to insert that mother farker where it belongs is a different story...

Furthermore, I don't consider myself a farking conservative. Spend the farking money, but spend it well. Spending money on having the roads snowplowed? No problem. It serves an immediate purpose. People need to get the fark to work & sometimes the road to work is farking covered in farking snow. But giving more money to those farking themselves in the ass in the congress is irre-farking-sponsible. The simple solution to this specific problem would be to amend that farking law that Mr. Egg mentioned earlier in this farking thread and give the farking option of approving raises for those in government to whom it rightfully farking belongs: THE ALMIGHTY TAXPAYER. And they should be able to cast that farking vote on the same farking form that they use to file their farking taxes. Simple. Eloquent.

Happy New Year!!!

ilambiquated

America is just shiat you see out your car window.

Why not take a drive to Africa some time? Or most of Asia? Or South America?

JaMorg: Hint: stay out of Southern Indiana and Kokomo.

I'm from Columbus, IN (not far from Bloomington), but recently moved to Connecticut. There's not a whole lot to do in Columbus, or anywhere else in Indiana the Midwest(except get drunk and go bowling), but I'll say this: you can throw a rock into a crowd and hit someone a helluva lot nicer than absolutely anyone in Hartford.

/first you have to find a crowd
//still getting a kick...

Hey only us living here in Indiana can take a crap on it.