President Bush spoke last week at the Army War College about the reshaping of our national security strategy to prevent new attacks and keep our country safe.

the army war college is about 10 minutes from my house. I looked out my window that day and saw the presidential choppers flying at about 150 ft overhead.

Well, there's the solution to the economic crisis:

Step 1: "Bill Gates, yer a terrist"
Bill Gates: "Huh?"

Step 2: Seize Bill Gates' funds.

Step 3: Rinse and repeat with other wealthy "terrists".

Isn't that kind of like saying your roach problem is history now that your house has burned down?

Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Isn't that kind of like saying your roach problem is history now that your house has burned down?

Exactly. Always look on the brighter side of life!

Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Isn't that kind of like saying your roach problem is history now that your house has burned down?

If the roach problem was bad enough, you might well burn the house down to get rid of the roaches. That's what homeowners insurance is for.

I read somewhere that 911 cost less than $200,000. I think the Saudis can still scrape that together.

Huh. Don't see a thing in TFA about the economic crisis.

Does this mean we're going to see terrorists standing at street corners with signs reading, "Will blow up stuff for food?"

Bullsh*t.

It's the exact opposite.

We're lucky we haven't gone bankrupt chasing a boogeyman.

How much have we spent/wasted on the "War" on "Terror"? A trillion and a half? Two trillion?

Weaver95: President Bush spoke last week at the Army War College about the reshaping of our national security strategy to prevent new attacks and keep our country safe.

the army war college is about 10 minutes from my house. I looked out my window that day and saw the presidential choppers flying at about 150 ft overhead.

I bet they kept a close watch on the home of that guy who makes dissenting posts on the internet. Could be a troublemaker... or enemy combatant!

gopher321

I know you are joking, but there are those who seriously advocate such a policy.

You mean corporate bankers right?

Terrorist financiers, weapons proliferators, narcotics traffickers, and even rogue regimes have one thing in common: They all rely on access to the financial system.

We can all see we are winning that war on drugs with these techniques.
Does anyone even proofread what this incredible jackass says any more?

I thought destroying America's economic power was Osama's plan.

ilambiquated: I thought destroying America's economic power was Osama's plan.

Are you saying the terrorists have won? Why do you hate America?

ilambiquated: I thought destroying America's economic power was Osama's plan.

yah, but then America nose-dived everyone else worse, so proportionally it all worked out.

Argh2: I read somewhere that 911 cost less than $200,000. I think the Saudis can still scrape that together.

If the terrorists had jobs and were paying their way prior to 911, I could see that. Living expenses since the 90s, and flight school probably put them over that budget though.

I suppose this will work as long as the US is an economic power.

/I'll assume nothing

gopher321: Well, there's the solution to the economic crisis:

Step 1: "Bill Gates, yer a terrist"
Bill Gates: "Huh?"

Step 2: Seize Bill Gates' funds.

Step 3: Rinse and repeat with other wealthy "terrists".

Because that worked so well for Russia.

I don't think so, the terrorist are richer than ever before, it's the terrorist's enemies that are the ones going bankrupt. At least here in the U.S. and I belive the terrorist refer to them as their constituents.

Overseas it is a differnt story though. Just about every country that was an ally and a strong supporter of the "war on terror" is going bankrupt minus Israel of course. lolzz

ilambiquated: I thought destroying America's economic power was Osama's plan.

Hey! Bush thought of it first...
Actually, I don't know why more people din't see this coming, GWB managed to fail at almost every other managerial position he ever had, so it's not that shocking to see America feeling economic stress

/Bankrupting the terrorists?
//HA HA! Now they'll have to live in even smaller caves

Once again, "It's not an accurate headline, it's Fark." The article is about the interdiction of terrorists' funds and says nothing about an economic crisis bankrupting anybody. Submittard is either comprehension-impaired or agenda-driven.

Sounds to me like he's come up with another effective tool to oppress and spy on the people.

"A key advantage to this approach is that it has made the private sector our ally, in contrast to traditional country sanctions, which often put the government and the business community at odds. Members of the international banking community go beyond their legal requirements and voluntarily cut off business with certain individuals, entities, or regimes because they do not want to risk handling illegitimate business. These are good corporate citizens who care about protecting their institutions' credibility and doing their part to make the world a safer place. Together we have built a coalition where private sector actions ultimately amplify the effectiveness of government-imposed measures."

Wow, the private sector and the international banking community are spearheading this fight against the evil Al-Qaeda. That should be reassuring to the people.

///I would brag about the 100 bucks my grandma gave me for Christmas
//But my mom took it from me
/sad now: (

KEWL!!! now both the Terrorists and The American People will be broke and desolate, while the top 2% laugh all the way to their European hideouts.

Mission accomplished!!

Hmm. Actually, if there's one thing I can give Bush the credit for, his anti money laundering policy does stop a lot of terrorist funding. Unfortunately, it is god damn headache of paperwork, monitoring, and pointless procedures.

Most of them I'd also say was there but only seriously implemented after 9-11, so it's more like raising the red flag after the damage has been done.

/pain in the ass.
/worked in the bank.

Bankrupting the terrorists? But I thought they were only blowing shiat up because they were poor in the first place?

At least that's what a lot of people on Fark told me.

Masso: Actually, if there's one thing I can give Bush the credit for, his anti money laundering policy does stop a lot of terrorist funding.



Actually there is probably a lot you can give him credit for. Most people are too filled with ignorant rage to give it.

Bankrupting your enemies is good.



/would approve

mud_shark: Bankrupting the terrorists? But I thought they were only blowing shiat up because they were poor in the first place?

At least that's what a lot of people on Fark told me.

it all boils down to The Haves and the Have Nots. of course,there is a religious element too, but that just hides the true root cause.
or as the crony capitalist bush said to a group of wealthy fundraisers in DC:now, i'm addressing the haves and the have mores in this gathering.

Phil Herup: Masso: Actually, if there's one thing I can give Bush the credit for, his anti money laundering policy does stop a lot of terrorist funding.



Actually there is probably a lot you can give him credit for. Most people are too filled with ignorant rage to give it.

Bankrupting your enemies is good.



/would approve

and bankrupting your country is bad.

They just need enough for a few plane tickets and some plastic box cutters.

Phil Herup: Actually there is probably a lot you can give him credit for. Most people are too filled with ignorant rage to give it.

Bankrupting your enemies is good.

They never had much money. All we did was try to join them.

Speaking of Iraq - here's an eye opener, from Bill Clinton (circa 1998):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p58KzMMpILY&feature=channel_page

modestlivinglegend: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p58KzMMpILY&feature=channel_page

Wow, that would really be relevant if nothing had happened between 1998 and 2003.

Time goes on.
Things change.
Try to keep up.

Bush regime ..... STFU and get the hell out.

/after all, you've already stolen all the taxpayer's money .... for the next 20 generations

Sure would've been nice to do this WHEN BILL CLINTON WAS DOING IT.

It was stopped for the last 8 years of anti-American treason by the Terrorist-in-Chief so the Feds couldn't legally backtrack Halliburton's and Brown & Root's terrorist support networks.

Gee, golly. Now that the Head Traitor from the Treason Party is almost out of a job the terrorist money laundering tracking operations which were started in Bill Clinton's Presidency are reinstated.

http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/001120 (pops)

The Clinton-Gore Plan to Stop Al-Qaeda: Would 9-11 have happened?

Would things be any different had Gore been President? Wouldn't 9-11 have still happened?

Perhaps not, according to mainstream media source Time Magazine. In their article, They Had A Plan [requires paid subscription], they explain why: After the bombing of the USS Cole the Clinton Administration had drawn up a comprehensive plan for fighting Al-Qaeda. But they didn't want to execute it with a new President taking office in a few months, so they briefed Bush's team at the highest levels and told them how important it was that they carry it out. And then Bush did nothing.

Here are the relevant quotes:

[Clinton National Security Advisor Sandy] Berger says he told [his successor, Bush's Condoleezza Rice], "I believe that the Bush Administration will spend more time on terrorism generally, and on al-Qaeda specifically, than any other subject."
The terrorism briefing was delivered by Richard Clarke, [] who had served in the first Bush Administration and risen [] to become the White House's point man on terrorism. [He was] chair of the interagency Counter-Terrorism Security Group (CSG)[...]. Since the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole [...] he had been working on an aggressive plan to take the fight to al-Qaeda. [...] Berger and the principals decided to shelve the plan and let the next Administration take it up. With less than a month left in office, they did not think it appropriate to launch a major initiative against Osama bin Laden. "We would be handing [the Bush Administration] a war when they took office on Jan. 20," says a former senior Clinton aide. "That wasn't going to happen." Now it was up to Rice's team to consider what Clarke had put together.

Clarke's proposals called for the "breakup" of al-Qaeda cells and the arrest of their personnel. The financial support for its terrorist activities would be systematically attacked, its assets frozen, its funding from fake charities stopped. Nations where al-Qaeda was causing trouble - Uzbekistan, the Philippines, Yemen - would be given aid to fight the terrorists. Most important, Clarke wanted to see a dramatic increase in covert action in Afghanistan to "eliminate the sanctuary" where al-Qaeda had its terrorist training camps and bin Laden was being protected by the radical Islamic Taliban regime. [...] In the words of a senior Bush Administration official, the proposals amounted to "everything we've done since 9/11."

[...]

An aggressive campaign to degrade the terrorist network worldwide - to shut down the conveyor belt of recruits coming out of the Afghan camps, to attack the financial and logistical support on which the hijackers depended - just might have rendered it incapable of carrying out the Sept. 11 attacks. Perhaps some of those who had to approve the operation might have been killed, or the money trail to Florida disrupted. We will never know, because we never tried. This is the secret history of that failure.

This isn't some low-level employee talking after-the-fact. This is a comprehensive plan at the highest levels of government, with the greatest stress, simply not carried out.

So what was Bush doing instead of cracking down on terrorism? Well, we now know he was busy planning to invade Iraq.

(Thanks to Al Franken's book for drawing this to my attention.)

// Way back before the year 2000 this was in play. George Walker Bush STOPPED EVERYTHING INVOLVING ANTI-TERRORIST OPERATIONS IN THE USA GOVERNMENT.
/// In short, the worlds worst terrorist became "appointed" by an anti-American team of terrorists in the Supreme Court acting on the orders of the American Terrorist Network known as "The Republican Party".]
//// Thanks to the anti-American southern states, these anti-American terrorist activities have been applauded by the Southern Republicans, the National Treasury gutted, and thousands of civilians and thousands of American soldiers maimed and killed thanks to the efforts of the Southern Terrorist States and the anti-American Republican Party.

Phil Herup: Bankrupting your enemies is good.



/al qaeda agrees

Protip: Suicide Bombers and Kamakazi pilots don't have to pay credit card bills.

ilambiquated: I thought destroying America's economic power was Osama's plan. Yes, that was his plan. The Press is really quiet about his first warning to the U.S. Chilled bubbly camel's milk was served up during the Bank failure crisis. I've seen reports concerning hordes of virgins moving toward Pakistan. I wonder if Lionel Richie will be ringing in the celebration for Osama.

equilibrium: /al qaeda agrees



Durrrr.

Phil Herup: Masso: Actually, if there's one thing I can give Bush the credit for, his anti money laundering policy does stop a lot of terrorist funding.

Actually there is probably a lot you can give him credit for. Most people are too filled with ignorant rage to give it.

Bankrupting your enemies is good.

/would approve

No argument there. Except that it's hardly a radical strategy that sprung straight from W's brain, anyone holding the office would have done the same thing. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the intelligence services just told him about it after the fact, as in "Mr. President, number 8 on the list of things we're doing is cracking down on money laundering", and he said "Sounds good".

I also give W credit for continuing to paint the White House white, brilliant leadership there.

Phil Herup: equilibrium: /al qaeda agrees



Durrrr.

I believe the correct retort would be OH SNAP.

If terrorists were bankrupt then Bush and Cheney would be penniless beggars.

Linux_Yes: mud_shark: Bankrupting the terrorists? But I thought they were only blowing shiat up because they were poor in the first place?

At least that's what a lot of people on Fark told me.

it all boils down to The Haves and the Have Nots. of course,there is a religious element too, but that just hides the true root cause.
or as the crony capitalist bush said to a group of wealthy fundraisers in DC:now, i'm addressing the haves and the have mores in this gathering.

OK, that's it, Ma'am. I can't take reading your posts anymore. Don't write back, goodbye.