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(London Times) Asinine They like their women stupid and unable to walk: In addition to denying females an education, the Taliban also prohibit polio vaccines   (timesonline.co.uk) divider line 181
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staplermofo [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 12:46:09 PM  
Leg brace porn is the 14th largest use of paper in Afghanistan.
It's like foot-binding was in China way back when. I don't get it, but it's really sexy to them. Some theorize that women had to be quiet in public so all you would hear from her is the leg brace squeaks. There's a whole set of adjectives used only for leg braces in Pashtu.

 
JoeBagadonutz [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 12:49:04 PM  
@staplermofo: You are a sick person and should seek treatment. In the meantime, I want to have your baby.

 
TheOther [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 01:01:02 PM  
Once you've had gimp, you never go limp.

 
Coronach 2008-12-27 01:02:23 PM  
i499.photobucket.com

 
Marcus Aurelius [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 01:12:31 PM  
But George Bush says he defeated the Taliban, so this can't possibly be happening.

 
DarthBrooks [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 01:21:41 PM  
Is that leg-brace porn, water pistol porn, or just Big Wet Hunk o' Seaweed porn?

 
DrRatchet [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 01:23:45 PM  
And so it begins...

Reports of troop movements at the India/Pakistani border, propaganda in the papers about Taliban atrocities (whether the people responsible are actually Taliban or not.) The drumbeat grows louder. President Obama will pull our troops the Iraq and send them to Afghanistan. When our troop strength is sufficient, another atrocity will conveniently be committed by the "Pakistani Taliban" and we will invade. Perhaps it will be a coordinated attack with India, attacking on two fronts. Perhaps India will go in first, with clandestine air support and electronic countermeasures from the US, followed by a US lead peace-keeping force invading to "restore order". Either way, we are about to go to war with a Nuclear Power.

Sleep well tonight, while you can.

 
jake_lex [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 01:24:29 PM  
The hilarious part -- darkly hilarious -- is that the Taliban claims all these restrictions on women are to "protect" them. The reason for the head-to-toe burqa? To keep women from being raped.

It's just so crazy on so many levels.

 
absoluteparanoia 2008-12-27 01:28:07 PM  
jake_lex: The hilarious part -- darkly hilarious -- is that the Taliban claims all these restrictions on women are to "protect" them. The reason for the head-to-toe burqa? To keep women from being raped.

It's just so crazy on so many levels.


Not really. Christian scientists refuse vaccines because it will protect them.

 
eddyatwork [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 01:38:27 PM  
This is why I will never respect Islam as a religion. Barbarians.

 
King Something [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 01:47:23 PM  
absoluteparanoia: jake_lex: The hilarious part -- darkly hilarious -- is that the Taliban claims all these restrictions on women are to "protect" them. The reason for the head-to-toe burqa? To keep women from being raped.

It's just so crazy on so many levels.

Not really. Christian scientists refuse vaccines because it will protect them.


No, it's because they think that prayer, and prayer alone, will cure any and all illnesses and injuries they may have to endure. If only there were some famous person who could tell you more about this religion, somebody with personal experience about how much ass this religion sucks. Maybe a singer or something.

 
TheOther [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 01:48:05 PM  
eddyatwork: This is why I will never respect Islam as a religion. Barbarians.

The subjugation of women is pretty common in religion. Any religion which specifies a class of people as inherently inferior gets no respect from me. So...

This is why I will never respect Catholicism as a religion.

This is why I will never respect ultra-conservative Episcopalian/Anglicanism as a religion.

This is why etc...

This is why I will never respect Mormonism as a religion.

 
eddyatwork [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 02:05:30 PM  
TheOther: The subjugation of women is pretty common in religion.

Which is why I have no use for organized religion in general.

 
staplermofo [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 02:13:09 PM  
eddyatwork: Which is why I have no use for organized religion in general.

I don't get the whole "organized religion" thing. Just say religion. The people who have a religion all to themselves or share a disorganized religion are crazy. Most often seen as hobos ranting about the hoarding of ketchup packets and word salad about the end of the world. If you hate religion, it's okay to just say it like that.

 
dahmers love zombie [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 02:16:44 PM  
Female education is against Islamic teachings and spreads vulgarity in society," Shah Dauran, leader of a group that has established control over a large part of Swat district in the North West Frontier Province, declared this week.

You know who needs to go and straighten these folk out?

Hondo.

That's who.

 
absoluteparanoia 2008-12-27 02:28:08 PM  
King Something: No, it's because they think that prayer, and prayer alone, will cure any and all illnesses and injuries they may have to endure. If only there were some famous person who could tell you more about this religion, somebody with personal experience about how much ass this religion sucks. Maybe a singer or something.

Um, you agree with me dumbfark. They don't get vaccines because ITS PROTECTS THEM in their stupid little world. The substitute prayer instead of science. Just like every religion that has the word science in it.

 
Epsilon [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 02:32:36 PM  
Mission Accomplished?

 
staplermofo [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 02:46:43 PM  
The spelling Nazis are slacking. It's "vaccines", you jackass.

 
Lew Stool 2008-12-27 03:13:22 PM  
staplermofo: The spelling Nazis are slacking. It's "vaccines", you jackass.

Nah, I caught it and sent a note to the admins, then saw your post. I'm just late to the party.

 
JoJoTheIdiotMonkeyBoy [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 03:29:21 PM  
DrRatchet: Sleep well tonight, while you can.

::Mad scientist laugh::

 
DammitIForgotMyLogin [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 04:20:08 PM  
I remember when I was with Special Forces. Seems a thousand centuries ago. We went into a camp to inoculate the children. We left the camp after we had inoculated the children for Polio, and this old man came running after us and he was crying. He couldn't see. We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that. The genius. The will to do that. Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were stronger than we

 
Heroic Poser 2008-12-27 04:30:59 PM  
Therion: Wait ... um ... would someone remind me *why* we still have troops in Afghanistan?


They're bringing a lot of Brace-porn at HALF the cost.
HALF!!
It'll be awesome when they all get pulled out.

 
monsieurstabby [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 05:10:51 PM  
Idiots.

 
dahmers love zombie [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 05:25:01 PM  

 
PC LOAD LETTER [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 06:06:46 PM  
At least they won't have autistic kids

/Die Jenny, Die

 
muck4doo [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 06:22:50 PM  
Yes, this is farked up. Is it all becuase of religion? No. Muslims throughout the world do not do these kinds of things to their women. It has a lot to also do with culture, but the PC crowd can not say that lest they be branded a bigot. So instead they take the intellectually lazy way out and blame it on ALL religion. Apparently it is still okay to be a bigot against something vague like "ALL Religion". Why don't you say something equally as asinine as "All Cultures different than mine". You will be just as much the bigot for saying so. Do Muslims in Turkey do this? No. Do Muslims in Jordan do this? No. Do Muslims in America do this? No. Why don't you call a spade a spade and blame it on their culture instead of taking the goddamn easy way out?

 
muck4doo [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 06:25:18 PM  
Coronach....

No need to bathe her, just bring her straight to my tent.

 
adamgreeney 2008-12-27 06:42:40 PM  
You know, the Taliban are a bunch of dickless assholes whw deserve to be put down (for the most part), but what man doesn't like an ignorant cripple?

 
liberalish 2008-12-27 06:45:03 PM  
muck4doo: Yes, this is farked up. Is it all becuase of religion? No. Muslims throughout the world do not do these kinds of things to their women. It has a lot to also do with culture, but the PC crowd can not say that lest they be branded a bigot. So instead they take the intellectually lazy way out and blame it on ALL religion. Apparently it is still okay to be a bigot against something vague like "ALL Religion". Why don't you say something equally as asinine as "All Cultures different than mine". You will be just as much the bigot for saying so. Do Muslims in Turkey do this? No. Do Muslims in Jordan do this? No. Do Muslims in America do this? No. Why don't you call a spade a spade and blame it on their culture instead of taking the goddamn easy way out?

Dude, WTF are you talking about? Really.

"Liberals", as well as any other sane human, fully understand that extremest cultures are to blame and that normal muslims are, well, normal.

 
Natael [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 06:47:39 PM  
muck4doo: Yes, this is farked up. Is it all becuase of religion? No. Muslims throughout the world do not do these kinds of things to their women. It has a lot to also do with culture, but the PC crowd can not say that lest they be branded a bigot. So instead they take the intellectually lazy way out and blame it on ALL religion. Apparently it is still okay to be a bigot against something vague like "ALL Religion". Why don't you say something equally as asinine as "All Cultures different than mine". You will be just as much the bigot for saying so. Do Muslims in Turkey do this? No. Do Muslims in Jordan do this? No. Do Muslims in America do this? No. Why don't you call a spade a spade and blame it on their culture instead of taking the goddamn easy way out?

I'm not going to say religions are just all fine and peachy, because it does do a lot of goofy things to people. Religion and culture are, in a lot of ways, inseparable. The way Islam has evolved with the Taliban is definitely worse for woman than other brands of Islam. I hate cultural relativism, and am quite against cultures that are innately racist and sexist. Am I going to say the US is perfect? Nope, far from it. Is it the best? I dunno, havent had a whole lot of exposure to other cultures. I'm from California, and even now living in Alabama I can see some cultural differences I really don't like.

/done rambling
//Burkas suck
///doesn't randomly rape people at the beach

 
liberalish 2008-12-27 06:50:46 PM  
muck4doo:

And as an addendum, I go to school with dozens of muslim/Arab classmates. I work for a muslim professor (actually, I don't know that for a fact, but I would wager cash on it). They don't seem to be so opposed to western medicine, being in medical school and all.

/near a large Arab population center so the school has a higher representation than others would.

 
sloppy shoes 2008-12-27 06:51:51 PM  
liberalish:
Dude, WTF are you talking about? Really.

"Liberals", as well as any other sane human, fully understand that extremest cultures are to blame and that normal muslims are, well, normal.


I think his comment stems from the religion hate on Fark.

 
liberalish 2008-12-27 07:26:57 PM  
sloppy shoes: liberalish:
Dude, WTF are you talking about? Really.

"Liberals", as well as any other sane human, fully understand that extremest cultures are to blame and that normal muslims are, well, normal.

I think his comment stems from the religion hate on Fark.


I know what it stems from. It's the gross misrepresentation and confusion of the two separate arguments that provoked the reply.

 
WhyteRaven74 [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 07:56:08 PM  
TheOther: Any religion which specifies a class of people as inherently inferior gets no respect from me

Which actually is really no religion. Now the stuff people have come along and say the religion says? Yeah, that gets messy.

 
muck4doo [TotalFark] 2008-12-27 09:47:58 PM  
liberalish: sloppy shoes: liberalish:
Dude, WTF are you talking about? Really.

"Liberals", as well as any other sane human, fully understand that extremest cultures are to blame and that normal muslims are, well, normal.

I think his comment stems from the religion hate on Fark.

I know what it stems from. It's the gross misrepresentation and confusion of the two separate arguments that provoked the reply.


It has nothing to do with "Liberals" and "Conservatives", as much as it is intellectual laziness on the part of people who spew such crap as "Arabs are backwards! Glass parking lot! Kill Islam!", and "All Religion is to blame for the woes of the world!". Both are idiotic statements, and show nothing but bigotry on behalf of the spewer. The fact is the idiots on all sides of those (left and right and center) of those arguements are A-Okay with certain types of bigotry. I'm right of center but am disgusted with the bigotry against Muslims and Homosexuals I see happening with some on my side. I am also disgusted against the Anti-Christian/Anti-religion crap as well as anti-white people stuff is see being spewed from the otherside.

 
CayceP 2008-12-28 03:35:38 AM  
PC LOAD LETTER: At least they won't have autistic kids

/Die Jenny, Die


This, plus window seat please.

 
cynicalbastard 2008-12-28 05:06:13 AM  
A Muslim I know who lives up here explained the situation to me this way: "Over here, we have some incredibly uneducated folks living in the mountains who are religious fanatics to the point of refusing innoculation and handling snakes, and who spend their time alternately shooting at the next family over the hill and sleeping with their cousins, sisters and nieces. You call them "Hillbillies" or "Golers".
Over there we call them "Afghanis.""

 
Britney Spear's Speculum 2008-12-28 05:06:43 AM  
...and no religion too.

 
cynicalbastard 2008-12-28 05:11:26 AM  
To a lot of the Muslim world, the Afghanis are like that scary, hulking inbred cousin the family doesn't like to talk about who lives in a one-room house that has been converted from a 8 by 12 garden shed, can't be trusted around livestock and will actually eat excrement on a dare.

 
phartman 2008-12-28 05:12:03 AM  
Great. Just great. This will supplant the explosive belt.

I predict a worldwide increase in the amount of wheelchair / leg brace bombings.

 
coco ebert [TotalFark] 2008-12-28 05:12:32 AM  
liberalish: muck4doo: Yes, this is farked up. Is it all becuase of religion? No. Muslims throughout the world do not do these kinds of things to their women. It has a lot to also do with culture, but the PC crowd can not say that lest they be branded a bigot. So instead they take the intellectually lazy way out and blame it on ALL religion. Apparently it is still okay to be a bigot against something vague like "ALL Religion". Why don't you say something equally as asinine as "All Cultures different than mine". You will be just as much the bigot for saying so. Do Muslims in Turkey do this? No. Do Muslims in Jordan do this? No. Do Muslims in America do this? No. Why don't you call a spade a spade and blame it on their culture instead of taking the goddamn easy way out?

Dude, WTF are you talking about? Really.

"Liberals", as well as any other sane human, fully understand that extremest cultures are to blame and that normal muslims are, well, normal.


Also, you sometimes have to separate religion from tribalism (although the two are often intertwined). For example, some people think female genital mutilation is an Islamic practice, whereas it is a pre-Islamic tribalistic practice. Some of its practitioners even think that!

 
pellies [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-12-28 05:13:41 AM  
cynicalbastard:

I know about the Golers, it pains me to capitalize their name.

 
Mitch Mitchell 2008-12-28 05:15:03 AM  
As much as I love the Taliban, I'm going to sit this one out.

 
coco ebert [TotalFark] 2008-12-28 05:15:06 AM  
cynicalbastard: To a lot of the Muslim world, the Afghanis are like that scary, hulking inbred cousin the family doesn't like to talk about who lives in a one-room house that has been converted from a 8 by 12 garden shed, can't be trusted around livestock and will actually eat excrement on a dare.

That's how a lot of secularist Turks view Arabs, as well.

 
Wii.Tard 2008-12-28 05:15:22 AM  
They like their women stupid and unable to walk: In addition to denying females an education, the Taliban also prohibit polio vaccines

You can replace Taliban for Evangelicals and the headline still makes sense.

 
coco ebert [TotalFark] 2008-12-28 05:18:32 AM  
Wii.Tard: They like their women stupid and unable to walk: In addition to denying females an education, the Taliban also prohibit polio vaccines

You can replace Taliban for Evangelicals and the headline still makes sense.


Where would you rather live: Afghanistan or Alabama?

 
radioman_ 2008-12-28 05:18:36 AM  
Who hurt Alizee? Was it the Taliban? I'll moider 'em!

 
Trashy 2008-12-28 05:23:39 AM  
coco ebert: Wii.Tard: They like their women stupid and unable to walk: In addition to denying females an education, the Taliban also prohibit polio vaccines

You can replace Taliban for Evangelicals and the headline still makes sense.

Where would you rather live: Afghanistan or Alabama?



Tough choice. I got to sleep on that one.

 
darth_shatner 2008-12-28 05:25:02 AM  
The militants have also prohibited immunisation for children against polio - claiming that the UN-sponsored vaccination drive is aimed at causing sexual impotence - causing a sharp rise in cases of the disease.

Covering up women, virgins in the afterlife, conspiracies to render their men impotent.

Taliban seem awfully obsessed with the whole sex thing. It's almost as if they're compensating for something....

 
MikeyFatPants007 2008-12-28 05:26:06 AM  
Did anyone else read the article and see that this is in
Pakistan not Afghanistan?

 
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