Well duh, she could have had Progeria^ and then the poor bartender would have been slapped with a fine for serving a minor. Better to be safe than sorry.

Why would a 60 year old woman leave the house without ID?

/drtfa

mitchcumstein1: Why would a 60 year old woman leave the house without ID?

Exactly. A lot of restaurants now card anyone who doesn't look 40. So if you go to Chilis/Applebees/Fridays, and you don't get carded, then you look 40. Ha ha!

/nelson

My fear as a server would be that she's some wacko MADD member who'd run to the press yelling "THEY DIDN'T CARD ME! THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO CARD EVERYONE! THEY LOVE DRUNK DRIVERS!"

My father-in-law went to a Detroit Tigers game and they refused to sell him a beer because he had no ID. He was 73 years old at the time.

CruiserTwelve: My father-in-law went to a Detroit Tigers game and they refused to sell him a beer because he had no ID. He was 73 years old at the time.

Why would a 73 year old man leave the house without his ID?

America seems to have a remarkable neurosis about alcohol.

When I worked at Walmart as a teenager, they had a "card everyone" policy. Which meant little old ladies with their walker couldn't buy a bottle of beer if they didn't have an ID card. I thought one of the managers was gonna get an oxygen tank thrown at him one day.

Nanny State! Nanny State!

Better than when Wegman's wouldn't sell me a six pack because I had a coworker/friend... three people behind me... who was 19.

Christ, I've bought for underage - well, just my brother, really - before. I wasn't dumb enough to have him in line with me.

Although Meijer's never bothered to check my 20 year old boyfriend's ID when he was with me, come to think of it.

Meijers > Wegman's I guess.

/fanning a flame or two
//bored
///sorry

It's those poker-up-the-ass moron legislators and their goddamn enforcement-happy inspectors (sanctimonious weaselly little men with nothing better to do than to ruin everyone else.)

Useless wastes of oxygen.

mitchcumstein1: CruiserTwelve: My father-in-law went to a Detroit Tigers game and they refused to sell him a beer because he had no ID. He was 73 years old at the time.

Why would a 73 year old man leave the house without his ID?

Exactly. If you're dumb enough to wander around without your ID, you shouldn't be served alcohol regardless of your age.

At the grocery store where I work, we have to put a DL number in the register/computer to ring up cigarettes and some OTC meds. We have to careful about carding because A) it could be a test to see if we'll do it, and B) if we just use our birthdays to do it, too many times, we have to explain why. I actually had an ID check come up yesterday for...batteries! Yes, it was dumb.

Wait. I don't get IDed at the Liquor Store down the Street. I'm 18. How the hell can she not look 21?

Just think of the children.....////

mitchcumstein1: CruiserTwelve: My father-in-law went to a Detroit Tigers game and they refused to sell him a beer because he had no ID. He was 73 years old at the time.

Why would a 73 year old man leave the house without his ID?

I was wondering why anyone would go to a Tigers game?

baltimoreblonde: At the grocery store where I work, we have to put a DL number in the register/computer to ring up cigarettes and some OTC meds. We have to careful about carding because A) it could be a test to see if we'll do it, and B) if we just use our birthdays to do it, too many times, we have to explain why. I actually had an ID check come up yesterday for...batteries! Yes, it was dumb.

I'm all for carding, but I'm not entirely cool with the idea that the grocer puts the DL number in the system. They should not have to keep my personally identifying info on a semi-permanent basis in order for me to buy liquor.

I was a Bartender for 15 years (gay bars) :)

ID is required but so is a little common sense.

The only people that ALWAYS got carded were the little twinks who ordered Amaretto Sours. That was always a giveaway That they were underage.

mitchcumstein1: Why would a 60 year old woman leave the house without ID?

/drtfa

Some women, that age and older, still don't have ID, ie drivers license, or if they do they hardly ever use it because they still live like they did in the 50's and the man does the all the driving. My mother-in-law is like that, she hasn't renewed her license since the 60's when she got married because of this mind set.

I went for brunch with my mother last spring. I actually left my entire wallet at home (luckilly mom was paying). I'm 29 and I got ID'd ordering a mimosa. I explained to the waitress my age, and this is my mother and I'm having brunch with her and can I just please have a mimosa? My mother is 65 and thought this was so funny. "Yes, she's my 29 year old daughter bla bla"

We actually had to call the MANAGER for me to get my mimosa. At age 29. Having brunch with my 65-year old mother.

Jeez, it is not like I was ordering shots of jager.

/they did finally serve me
//people are such arseholes about alcohol

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Better than when Wegman's wouldn't sell me a six pack because I had a coworker/friend... three people behind me... who was 19.

Christ, I've bought for underage - well, just my brother, really - before. I wasn't dumb enough to have him in line with me.

Although Meijer's never bothered to check my 20 year old boyfriend's ID when he was with me, come to think of it.

Meijers > Wegman's I guess.

/fanning a flame or two
//bored
///sorry

I buy for underagers all the time, and it's all about knowing the policies of any particular place. e.g. Wal-Mart won't let you go through if they see you talking to someone else without checking their ID. Bowling alleys will give you 4 or 5 cups when you order a pitcher no questions asked.

meekychuppet: America seems to have a remarkable neurosis about alcohol, sex, nudity and smoking.

FTFY

Article: "60 year old woman assisting local police in a sting operation nets four citations for failing to ID for the purchase of alcohol"

Fark: "If the stupid bartender just followed the rules and carded her he wouldn't have gotten in trouble."

ZeroPly: Exactly. If you're dumb enough to wander around without your ID, you shouldn't be served alcohol regardless of your age.

Good lord - where do you live where its necessary to carry an ID every second of the day?

/papers please!

OK, I'm 59, have a hairline that could best be called Klingon, lots of white hair, including most of my moustache.

For the past two years, up until about four months ago, I would get carded every time I bought anything alcoholic at Wal Mart. Then they stopped doing that and would only ask for my date of birth. they finally stopped that when I was at the point if they asked me on gaadam more time, I was going to say May 20, 1929. If they questioned that, I was going to say I just look young for my age.

The worst was two years ago at a local chain supermarket when I was buying a bottle of wine and this twentysomething clerk GRABBED MY WALLET OUT OF MY HAND, UNASKED, to check my ID. I gave her a very pointed lecture about how you never, ever do that and that had she been a guy, might have gotten decked. She then said she'd now have to call a manager. I told her to go ahead, but if she did, I was walking and she would lose the sale. she shut up after that.

dennysgod: mitchcumstein1: Why would a 60 year old woman leave the house without ID?

/drtfa

Some women, that age and older, still don't have ID, ie drivers license, or if they do they hardly ever use it because they still live like they did in the 50's and the man does the all the driving. My mother-in-law is like that, she hasn't renewed her license since the 60's when she got married because of this mind set.

Good. Let's call this what it really is - a learning experience.

It's 2008. Carry your f*cking ID.

Chutzpaw007: When I worked at Walmart as a teenager, they had a "card everyone" policy. Which meant little old ladies with their walker couldn't buy a bottle of beer if they didn't have an ID card. I thought one of the managers was gonna get an oxygen tank thrown at him one day.

I was behind an eldery gentleman at K-Mart who got carded for a six pack he was buying. He was some kind of pissed. He just went off on the poor clerk. The clerk apologized over and over and said it was the store policy, no she wasn't being a smart ass, the register wouldn't ring up the sale without her punching in a birthdate, etc. etc. etc. Finally, near tears, she said I'll just make up a birthdate (which, technically was an ABC violation in Virginia- once a clerk asks for ID and it is not produced - NO SALE). She put in the fake birthdate and off the angry old man went. I was next and also buying beer. I'm 40 years old and she didn't even bother carding me. Gotta love this crazy world we live in.

The local hockey arena got set up with planted teens and had their ability to serve beers taken away for a period of time. Their response after that was to require ID's for everyone, no matter what their age. So I dig out my driver's license when I'm thirsty there.

I blame the overzealous prosecutors making political headlines. And a lack of common sense on a server or two.

Lollipop165: //people are such arseholes about alcohol

Don't be so negative toward yourself. Although it's true you could have simply ordered a non-alcoholic drink for that one outing, instead of insisting on having alcohol at every stinking meal, so maybe you're right.

ZeroPly: dennysgod: mitchcumstein1: Why would a 60 year old woman leave the house without ID?

/drtfa

Some women, that age and older, still don't have ID, ie drivers license, or if they do they hardly ever use it because they still live like they did in the 50's and the man does the all the driving. My mother-in-law is like that, she hasn't renewed her license since the 60's when she got married because of this mind set.

Good. Let's call this what it really is - a learning experience.

It's 2008. Carry your f*cking ID.

Troll's profile is troll-y.

ZeroPly: Exactly. If you're dumb enough to wander around without your ID, you shouldn't be served alcohol regardless of your age.

You always want to make sure you're carrying your papers, just in case you get stopped by any errant Germans.

Lollipop165: We actually had to call the MANAGER for me to get my mimosa. At age 29. Having brunch with my 65-year old mother.

A few months ago I was waiting at the bar for a friend to arrive - I ordered a coke and I was asked for my ID. This is completely asinine but bars are both suffering from overzealous enforcement of ID laws...

/I didn't provide the dude my ID and we went to another restaurant
//what happened to common sense in this country?

10 years ago I moved to Davis, CA from Tennessee and the stores around the university wouldn't accept my out of state ID. "City Police Policy", I was told. Funny how my ID was perfectly legit to write a ticket off of, but wasn't legit to buy something legal.

Bravian

Technically, it is illegal not to have some sort of ID on you.

Which I, personally, think is ridiculous.

I had a friend once buy me a beer at a liquor store because I forgot my ID in my apt. I got a major lecture from the shop keeper. I wanted to yell at her: "WTF is it any of your business? We are farkin' 30 year olds." I didn't go that far, though. I just told her it was none of her business and had my friend buy the beer and left.

IMO, I don't drive and I don't engage in any illegal activities, so why would I need ID other than an occasional drink?

Aulus:
The worst was two years ago at a local chain supermarket when I was buying a bottle of wine and this twentysomething clerk GRABBED MY WALLET OUT OF MY HAND, UNASKED, to check my ID. I gave her a very pointed lecture about how you never, ever do that and that had she been a guy, might have gotten decked. She then said she'd now have to call a manager. I told her to go ahead, but if she did, I was walking and she would lose the sale. she shut up after that.

Sounds like you need to be tossed into an old-person's home and given lots of sedatives to deal with your overly violent nature. Jerk.

ZeroPly: It's 2008. Carry your f*cking ID.

Why?

What is it with all these ID Nazi's? OMG who doesn't leave home w/o an ID. OMG THAT IS SO UNBELIEVABLE. Why don't you go chip yourself and get it over with.

In many places it's the law to card everyone. As much as I hate the paranoia over alcohol and would love to see both the drinking age lowered and the legal driving limit raised back to .10 (or even higher), I'm also not going to foam at the mouth because my server or cashier won't put his job on the line because of my politics. He probably hates the stupid rule/law as much as you do, so STFU already and show the farking ID. Take it up with your lawmakers if it bugs you that much.

Won't somebody think of the baby boomers!!?!?! And everybody over the age of 40 better carry ID. We need it to identify the body when you keel over.

Sounds like page filler. Did this really happen?

"meekychuppet 2008-12-27 01:04:27 PM
America seems to have a remarkable neurosis about alcohol."

Prohibition? Once again religion is the culprit here. I used to work the door at several clubs in Austin. You MUST posses your ID on your person. IF the TABC does a sting, and they find someone without a valid ID or DL, no matter what that patrons age, you will get the shiat fined out you. $5000.00. No BS. On you, the workers. Seen it happen before. I used to card everyone that breathed, and trust me, I got a TON of shiat. I didn't care, none of those people would have been willing to help me pay my fine, I am sure...

/ Had my little " im sorry, it's the law..." speech down pat..

dennysgod: mitchcumstein1: Why would a 60 year old woman leave the house without ID?

/drtfa

Some women, that age and older, still don't have ID, ie drivers license, or if they do they hardly ever use it because they still live like they did in the 50's and the man does the all the driving. My mother-in-law is like that, she hasn't renewed her license since the 60's when she got married because of this mind set.

That's ridiculous, my mother is 60 and she doesn't live like that. You realize people that are 60 were the people that did the women's lib movement, burned their bras, went to Woodstock and marched on Washington don't you. These are capable people. This woman is just an idiot. Who the hell goes to a bar with no ID?

I went to iggys in layton last saturday and didn't get carded. And I'm 23.

nytmare

Don't be so negative toward yourself. Although it's true you could have simply ordered a non-alcoholic drink for that one outing, instead of insisting on having alcohol at every stinking meal, so maybe you're right.

That is the most retarded thing I have ever heard.

bravian

A year ago I was down the Jersey Shore with a few friends. I live in New York City, and the bar we went to didn't take out of state ID's. AT THE JERSEY SHORE, which is a tourist destination. I was the oldest person there, lol. My friends had a good laugh about it. I had a non-alcoholic drink then we left. What a waste of time.

Lollipop165: Technically, it is illegal not to have some sort of ID on you.

Not in the US it isn't. Now if I was driving - a proper drivers license would be required. But it is not necessary to carry around papers if I am just walking down the street.

Now - the Supreme Court has ruled that an Officer of the Law can ask you to identify yourself. But identifying yourself and showing an ID is not the same thing.

bravian: ZeroPly: It's 2008. Carry your f*cking ID.

Why?

Uhhh... because they won't sell you alcohol without one even if you're 60?

Are you sure you're in the right thread? Have you read any of the comments?

ZeroPly

Exactly. If you're dumb enough to wander around without your ID, you shouldn't be served alcohol regardless of your age

And the nominations for shiathead of the century just keep rolling in.

mitchcumstein1

That's ridiculous, my mother is 60 and she doesn't live like that. You realize people that are 60 were the people that did the women's lib movement, burned their bras, went to Woodstock and marched on Washington don't you. These are capable people. This woman is just an idiot. Who the hell goes to a bar with no ID?

I know my dad doesn't. Because no one is idiotic enough to think that a 68 year old man is under age 21.

I was somewhere and got ID'd, and my license was 2 days expired. They told me I couldn't have a beer because they had gotten popped for serving a minor a few weeks back and the GM was in the store.

I said that's fin, I'll have a coke. The manager came over and apologized, I said it's ok, I don't want anyone to get into trouble over it we were heading to a bar afterwards anyway.

After that they brought me the beer, which was nice, but I was fine with waiting. The bar wouldn't have given me any trouble over the ID since I worked there.

If you leave the house without any ID, you should be arrested.