Yeah, I'd say he's living on the wrong planet.

DIAF, Blagojevich. You're a corrupt piece of crap and I wish they'd already thrown you to the curb.

Well, if he's looking to head to another planet, at least he's got his helmet situation under control.

Hey Blago, UP THE MEDS

He's going to paint as much stank on Emmanuel and Obama as he can. Nice way to start a Presidency. Rahm Emmanual is already nasty baggage. Blago is going down and he's hell bent on taking Rahm with him, as he should.

GaryPDX: He's going to paint as much stank on Emmanuel and Obama as he can. Nice way to start a Presidency. Rahm Emmanual is already nasty baggage. Blago is going down and he's hell bent on taking Rahm with him, as he should.

7/10 Good start on a troll, but you need more off-the-wall, or even logically contradictory innuendo.

St_Francis_P: but you need more off-the-wall, or even logically contradictory innuendo.

Oh, give him time he's genius at producing nonsense.

Does no one else see it?
Blago is going to go after everyone but Daley, because Daley is a beast. He'd rather go after the leader of the free world. Mark my words, if Blago gets stupid Southern Illinois (that's the entire not Chicago part) is going to be a glass parking lot. Daley has nukes, he doesn't talk about them, but they're there. In the old rail yards by the Roosevelt Police Station, you can see them from the L. You guys watch, watch the neutron star that is Daley's power warp time and space around him.

I am sure he is shocked and does not understand why he is in trouble, this is how every position is filled in chicago, This is SOP for them, it has been this way for decades so I am sure he is shocked at everyones reaction

We're at bargaining now, would you say the other day counted as denial or anger? There's still some hope this could all be sorted out by mid-January when he comes to the acceptance stage and steps down.

So much platitudes about fighting for the people of Illinois. Yet his conversations are about who will bribe him the most. Who voted for this joker in the first place, that is what I would like to know. Any Illinois Farkers care to explain?

Kevin72: So much platitudes about fighting for the people of Illinois. Yet his conversations are about who will bribe him the most. Who voted for this joker in the first place, that is what I would like to know. Any Illinois Farkers care to explain?

Voting in Illinois isn't like voting in other states. In Chicago, the governor is completely irrelevant, and the Mayor is always going to be Daley. Only the people with nothing to do, like the dead, vote for local politicians other than aldermen.
The rest of the state lives on Chicago's scraps and crude subsistence farming. They're a spiteful, rat-like folk constantly scurrying about for food and shelter. They are likely the ones to have voted for Blago. Most likely he ran a campaign that played up his rattier qualities and offered cheese and farming help.

Wait a minute, Obama's staff issued an Obama staff investigative report that there was no wrongdoing on the part of Obama's staff. How much more proof that there was nothing going on do you need?

jjorsett: Wait a minute, Obama's staff issued an Obama staff investigative report that there was no wrongdoing on the part of Obama's staff. How much more proof that there was nothing going on do you need?

Just like Blago Said he did nothing wrong, so he must not have done anything wrong.

After all Democrats only have the best interest of the public in mind, it is the evil republicans that eat little babies.

I am still waiting for a "Bush's fault" connection to come up here

The_Ancient: jjorsett: Wait a minute, Obama's staff issued an Obama staff investigative report that there was no wrongdoing on the part of Obama's staff. How much more proof that there was nothing going on do you need?

Just like Blago Said he did nothing wrong, so he must not have done anything wrong.

After all Democrats only have the best interest of the public in mind, it is the evil republicans that eat little babies.

I am still waiting for a "Bush's fault" connection to come up here

Well, Bush did go to a Cubs game once, I think.

jjorsett: Wait a minute, Obama's staff issued an Obama staff investigative report that there was no wrongdoing on the part of Obama's staff. How much more proof that there was nothing going on do you need?

Later in the conversation, ROD BLAGOJEVICH said he knows that the President-elect wants Senate Candidate 1 for the Senate seat but "they're not willing to give me anything except appreciation. Fark them." (new window) p.68


By all means, keep grasping. It worked so well for you this last election cycle.

Blagojevich didn't do dick. The case is so thin that they couldn't even go for a corruption indictment. Instead, they want to prosecute him for not fulfilling his duties to the public honestly. I may have the exact terms wrong, but I am not making that up.

This is just the Obama people showing who's boss, in case any one else has any ideas about getting obnoxious. I am waiting with great interest to see how Obama plans to enforce party discipline. I do not expect him to be kindly and forgiving. Otherwise why would he have picked Rahm, a total Israeli security thug, as chief of staff?

Kevin72: So much platitudes about fighting for the people of Illinois. Yet his conversations are about who will bribe him the most. Who voted for this joker in the first place, that is what I would like to know. Any Illinois Farkers care to explain?

I voted for him twice. First, after George Ryan it seemed like the Republicans didn't even bother to put up a credible candidate, and Blago ran on the platform of being a reformer.

Truthfully, I never hated the guy. The state was virtually bankrupt when he came into office and his biggest crime wasn't making matters worse, but merely failing to make them significantly better.

I think a lot of people soured on him when they saw budgets get cut and pork dry up. I remember after the last time Ryan was elected, our strongly republican town got a multimillion dollar infrastructure improvement grant that we used to lay down cobblestone sidewalks along our main road. All that stuff went away under blago. That's a serious system shock to a lot of people, but I saw it as the necessary steps you take when your state is farking hemorrhaging money.

As for the corruption, as I remember when I voted him back into office, there were rumblings that he was corrupt and power mad but no one had really made out any specific claims against him. After all, that's not really news where I'm from, nor is it necessarily a bad thing. Daley wears that moniker just fine and I'm just fine with him.

Now I'm against him. Even then I don't think that it is entirely that he is corrupt, just that he's so bad at it. He used his power so poorly, so ineptly, so transparently, and worst of all, he let it interfere with his job. I could forgive him if he played the game straight and didn't make a difference, just like I could forgive him if we was corrupt but effective. He has shown himself to be neither.

Blago really believes anything he says. Because he's crazy. Obama should re-consider awarding Blago an ambassadorship....

...to Narnia.

GaryPDX: He's going to paint as much stank on Emmanuel and Obama as he can. Nice way to start a Presidency. Rahm Emmanual is already nasty baggage. Blago is going down and he's hell bent on taking Rahm with him, as he should.

staplermofo: Voting in Illinois isn't like voting in other states. In Chicago, the governor is completely irrelevant, and the Mayor is always going to be Daley.



....would have disagreed.

he needs to move to the planet Mar$ so he can be with 'his' kind of people, where everything is for sale.

jules_siegel: Blagojevich didn't do dick. The case is so thin that they couldn't even go for a corruption indictment. Instead, they want to prosecute him for not fulfilling his duties to the public honestly. I may have the exact terms wrong, but I am not making that up.

This is just the Obama people showing who's boss, in case any one else has any ideas about getting obnoxious. I am waiting with great interest to see how Obama plans to enforce party discipline. I do not expect him to be kindly and forgiving. Otherwise why would he have picked Rahm, a total Israeli security thug, as chief of staff?

Two things.

Obama AND Biden are not invited to caucus meetings. The Democratic leadership made it clear that they are out of the loop. So Obama isn't going to "enforce party discipline".

Obama is NOT the farking President, any indictment of Blagojevich comes from one of two places, the Illinois congress OR the office of the attorney general of the United States, which in case you forgot under the auspices of President Bush.

staplermofo: Kevin72: So much platitudes about fighting for the people of Illinois. Yet his conversations are about who will bribe him the most. Who voted for this joker in the first place, that is what I would like to know. Any Illinois Farkers care to explain?

Voting in Illinois isn't like voting in other states. In Chicago, the governor is completely irrelevant, and the Mayor is always going to be Daley. Only the people with nothing to do, like the dead, vote for local politicians other than aldermen.
The rest of the state lives on Chicago's scraps and crude subsistence farming. They're a spiteful, rat-like folk constantly scurrying about for food and shelter. They are likely the ones to have voted for Blago. Most likely he ran a campaign that played up his rattier qualities and offered cheese and farming help.

You, sir, are an idiot.

It wasn't Southern Illinois that voted Blago in. It was Chicago. Even if all of Southern Illinois had voted against him, he STILL would have won.

secularsage: It wasn't Southern Illinois that voted Blago in. It was Chicago. Even if all of Southern Illinois had voted against him, he STILL would have won.

Riiiight. And who was this mysterious Republican running against Blago? Judy Baar Topinka? Riiight. Southern Illinoisans are going to vote for someone with a name that close to Baal.

You're crazy.

The_Ancient: I am sure he is shocked and does not understand why he is in trouble, this is how every position is filled in chicago, This is SOP for them, it has been this way for decades so I am sure he is shocked at everyones reaction

Isn't that the truth!

After all, we could all see that Michael "Brownie" Brown was appointed to be in charge of FEMA because only he could do a heckovajob and no way were any contributions made by Michael Brown or brought to the Bush campaign by Michael Brown to be construed as a contributing factor in his appointment.


jjorsett: Wait a minute, Obama's staff issued an Obama staff investigative report that there was no wrongdoing on the part of Obama's staff. How much more proof that there was nothing going on do you need?

I know - it wasn't at all like the investigative report that was released clearing Sarah Palin, by the people she appointed!

CagedDepravity: Later in the conversation, ROD BLAGOJEVICH said he knows that the President-elect wants Senate Candidate 1 for the Senate seat but "they're not willing to give me anything except appreciation. Fark them." (new window) p.68

I think he is trying to make the case that when he asks to be given something for the Senate seat, he is really asking on behalf of the people of Illinois. A case could be made that when a Senator is appointed, instead of elected by the people, he owes the people something upfront.

I don't think this line of reasoning is going to fly. There is just too much in the wire taps that sound like he personally wants something for the appointment.

At this point Blagojevich sounds like Bush claiming to have been misled by bad intelligence.

staplermofo: The rest of the state lives on Chicago's scraps and crude subsistence farming. They're a spiteful, rat-like folk constantly scurrying about for food and shelter. They are likely the ones to have voted for Blago. Most likely he ran a campaign that played up his rattier qualities and offered cheese and farming help.

Perhaps you need a lesson in geography.

He must think he has something on Obama or another prominent politician. He is waiting for their silent rescue.

Hetfield:

That's sad. The three kids on the right all went to high school with me. The internet is a cruel place sometimes.

Gestalt: Perhaps you need a lesson in geography.

I'm not saying that's not how the counties ended up going, I'm saying that the people in those counties didn't vote that way. Chicagoans don't vote for these kinds of things, it doesn't matter to them. Daley probably redistributed the votes to make it more believable.

Nemo's Brother: He must think he has something on Obama or another prominent politician. He is waiting for their silent rescue.

I think he learned from Bush.

1) Get caught doing something wrong (Selling the Senate or warrantless wiretapping).
2) Brazenly claim that what you did was right and done for the people.
3) Rely on the Legislature (that has the same party affiliation as you) to let you slide.

staplermofo: secularsage: It wasn't Southern Illinois that voted Blago in. It was Chicago. Even if all of Southern Illinois had voted against him, he STILL would have won.

Riiiight. And who was this mysterious Republican running against Blago? Judy Baar Topinka? Riiight. Southern Illinoisans are going to vote for someone with a name that close to Baal.

You're crazy.

And you're wrong:

Red is Topinka.
Rod Blagojevich (incumbent) 1,736,219 49.8%
Judy Baar Topinka 1,368,682 39.3%

Now slither away.

"Southern" Illinois voted Blago into office? Not even close. Even die-hard UAW liberals at Caterpillar in Peoria wouldn't walk on the same side of the street as Blago. I literally know no one from here in CENTRAL Illinois who claimed to have voted for him even prior to his current debacle. The only fans of his I know are transplants from upstate.

I would like to put forward the notion that perhaps he won the second election through election fraud. It wouldn't be the first time for that in this state.

Was it proven he actually ever took a bribe?

It would be a long, drawn-out fight to take him down. Then again, impeachment means whatever you want it to and guilt/innocence are decided by partisans rather than the rule of law, so he'll end up getting tossed out maybe 3 months before the next governor gets elected anyways.

In the meantime, normal Illini will just continue to live their lives and not give a fark. Governors are almost as inconsequential in the lives of ordinary people as Presidents. The city council and mayor in Chicago have more power than Blago.

cgraves67: here in CENTRAL Illinois

Oh stop making up regions.

Burn98: I think he learned from Bush.

1) Get caught doing something wrong (Selling the Senate or warrantless wiretapping).
2) Brazenly claim that what you did was right and done for the people.
3) Rely on the Legislature (that has the same party affiliation as you) to let you slide.

B-b-b-but Bush is too dumb to make plans 'n' stuff!?

cgraves67: I would like to put forward the notion that perhaps he won the second election through election fraud. It wouldn't be the first time for that in this state.

he won the second election because Topinka was too liberal (think a normal republican before bush jr) and the nut job far right simply did not show up to vote. then throw in that the green party got over 10% of the vote from people that were sick of both of them, and you end up with Elvis wining a second term.

Shaggy_C: In the meantime, normal Illini will just continue to live their lives and not give a fark. Governors are almost as inconsequential in the lives of ordinary people as Presidents. The city council and mayor in Chicago have more power than Blago.

That may be true for the people living in Chicago but for those of us in Springfield the Governor has rely farked things over, he is pissed that the city did not vote for him and has tried to punish the town by moving entire state departments into a old car dealership in middle of nowhere that did vote for him or into offices owned by his friends in Chicago paying 3X the rent from the buildings in town completely ignoring the seat of government act and destabilizing the local economy in the process.

cardex: he won the second election because Topinka was too liberal (think a normal republican before bush jr) and the nut job far right simply did not show up to vote. then throw in that the green party got over 10% of the vote from people that were sick of both of them, and you end up with Elvis wining a second term.

People from Illinois are liberal, even down state. After all, it was the Republican governor who put a moratorium on executions and commuted all death row inmates sentences. Being a moderate would not stop a Republican from being elected.

And what is more, I doubt the Green party stole more than a dozen votes from Topinka. Nothing about the Green platform screams "lets steal dissatisfied conservatives from the Republican party." The Green vote only hurt Blago.

Blago was re-elected on the strength of two things: 1) the huge uptick in democratic voters in 2006, and 2) the fact that at the time, his corruption accusations were not especially well known and people in general thought he was doing adequately with a shiatty hand he was dealt.

He thinks he's an aspie?

Yeah, send Blago to Mars. Problem solved!

staplermofo: Kevin72: So much platitudes about fighting for the people of Illinois. Yet his conversations are about who will bribe him the most. Who voted for this joker in the first place, that is what I would like to know. Any Illinois Farkers care to explain?

Voting in Illinois isn't like voting in other states. In Chicago, the governor is completely irrelevant, and the Mayor is always going to be Daley. Only the people with nothing to do, like the dead, vote for local politicians other than aldermen.
The rest of the state lives on Chicago's scraps and crude subsistence farming. They're a spiteful, rat-like folk constantly scurrying about for food and shelter. They are likely the ones to have voted for Blago. Most likely he ran a campaign that played up his rattier qualities and offered cheese and farming help.

excellent sarcasm!

Kevin72: So much platitudes about fighting for the people of Illinois. Yet his conversations are about who will bribe him the most. Who voted for this joker in the first place, that is what I would like to know. Any Illinois Farkers care to explain?

He ran against Judy Baar Topinka, perhaps the only politician on the planet who makes that a-hole look good by comparison. It was a horrible election.

Nuuu: People from Illinois are liberal, even down state. After all, it was the Republican governor who put a moratorium on executions and commuted all death row inmates sentences.

he did that after taking a large bribe don't confuse corruption and liberalism.

and no i dont think that the green party took any votes from die hard republicans but they did give a option to vote agents blogo without getting the frigged biatch into office if i had to guess i would say 95% of the votes that Whitney got were protest votes. and just for the official record there was not a huge upturn in democratic voters in 2006 at least not in IL, in fact there were far less total votes in that election then the number of votes that Obama got in 2004 when ruing for senate, as far as his corruption not being well known in the bubble of Chicago but the rest of the state was sick of him after a year of his first term there was talk of impeachment floating around the capital from his own party going back as far as 2003.

if any thing helped him win a second term it was that his main opponent was just as corrupt and always managed to look constipated on camera.

CagedDepravity: jjorsett: Wait a minute, Obama's staff issued an Obama staff investigative report that there was no wrongdoing on the part of Obama's staff. How much more proof that there was nothing going on do you need?

Later in the conversation, ROD BLAGOJEVICH said he knows that the President-elect wants Senate Candidate 1 for the Senate seat but "they're not willing to give me anything except appreciation. Fark them." (new window) p.68


By all means, keep grasping. It worked so well for you this last election cycle.

What's been most interesting about that statement to me is: how did he know that Obama was offering nothing but appreciation? That implies somebody brought it up to somebody. So who was it, did they tell Fitzgerald about Blago demanding some quid pro quo, and why aren't they mentioned in the Obama staff's report of the Obama staff's investigation exonerating the Obama staff?

Erebus1954: Burn98: I think he learned from Bush.

1) Get caught doing something wrong (Selling the Senate or warrantless wiretapping).
2) Brazenly claim that what you did was right and done for the people.
3) Rely on the Legislature (that has the same party affiliation as you) to let you slide.

B-b-b-but Bush is too dumb to make plans 'n' stuff!?

Bush is an Idiot-Savant. He can't tie his own shoelaces or feed himself but he's capable of infinite cunning and complexity when it comes to political skulduggery.

jjorsett: CagedDepravity: jjorsett: Wait a minute, Obama's staff issued an Obama staff investigative report that there was no wrongdoing on the part of Obama's staff. How much more proof that there was nothing going on do you need?

Later in the conversation, ROD BLAGOJEVICH said he knows that the President-elect wants Senate Candidate 1 for the Senate seat but "they're not willing to give me anything except appreciation. Fark them." (new window) p.68


By all means, keep grasping. It worked so well for you this last election cycle.

What's been most interesting about that statement to me is: how did he know that Obama was offering nothing but appreciation? That implies somebody brought it up to somebody. So who was it, did they tell Fitzgerald about Blago demanding some quid pro quo, and why aren't they mentioned in the Obama staff's report of the Obama staff's investigation exonerating the Obama staff?

There's an ongoing investigation. It's quite possible they have been asked not to talk about it.

St_Francis_P: GaryPDX: He's going to paint as much stank on Emmanuel and Obama as he can. Nice way to start a Presidency. Rahm Emmanual is already nasty baggage. Blago is going down and he's hell bent on taking Rahm with him, as he should.

7/10 Good start on a troll, but you need more off-the-wall, or even logically contradictory innuendo.

I think he makes an excellent point.

Orange Crush: If Blago was a Republican, and Bush was in Obama's place, there would be far more than 47 comments here. No double standard for Obama and Democrats. Never. :)

True, you would be getting a bunch of Republicans defending Blago instead of lefties denouncing Blago.

/To this day, righties still defend Tom Delay

Hey, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while

Are you saying nobody can make that shot, subby? I can make it. I'll even make it one-handed.

What? Did I stutter? A minute ago it was like an Elks lodge meeting up in this motherfarker; now all of a sudden it's as quiet as a church.

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