HOLY SHIAT! I want to change my vote!

ZOMG! I bet there's a Mosque in the basement, too!

Obama is 100% bought and paid for.

He's no more corrupt than any other Dem party politician in the Chicago area. Unfortunately for us - that's still seriously effin' corrupt.

MeinRS6: Obama is 100% bought and paid for.

By whom?

Etchy333: By whom?

The Chicago Machine. Duh.

/Sounds like the name of a WNBA team.

Etchy333: MeinRS6: Obama is 100% bought and paid for.

By whom?

Does it matter? Anyone. Everyone. As long as they can continue to vent hatred.

Etchy333: MeinRS6: Obama is 100% bought and paid for.

By whom?

me. should i not have done that?

I'm amazed that World Net Daily managed to work this hard-hitting, late-breaking, fact-filled story into their pages of hard-hitting, late-breaking, fact-filled stories about Obama's fake birth certificate.

(....and BatBoy claims to be Obama's real father, and that his real birthplace was on Mars!)

Well, my tax attorney receives my property tax bills and pays them as well from my escrow account, but that doesn't mean he "owns" my house.

from the bottom page of theor "proof"


Important: The Public Records and commercially available data sources used on reports have errors. Data is sometimes entered
poorly, processed incorrectly and is generally not free from defect. This system should not be relied upon as definitively
accurate. Before relying on any data this system supplies, it should be independently verified. For Secretary of State
documents, the following data is for information purposes only and is not an official record. Certified copies may be obtained
from that individual state's Department of State.

log_jammin: theor

I meant to do that...

Megain: Etchy333: MeinRS6: Obama is 100% bought and paid for.

By whom?

me. should i not have done that?

I hope you got a receipt.

Here is a PDF telling you who owns what and when. Here's a description of the events.

TFA fails to mention that the minarets were added later and 100% paid for by Obama.

I hope this is true. There's nothing the neocons can do about it and it will kill them a little bit more inside.

Hey, did you guys hear? Obama won the election.

it just cracks me up that this is STILL the biggest "scandal" they have on obama.

"He bought his house below the asking price!!! then later....he bought part of the lot next to his house!!!! HEZ LIK HITLER!!"

Paging NYZooMan. We need a sentence with a sarcastic reference to the word "CHANGE," (upper-case only, please), stat.

Meh.

log_jammin: it just cracks me up that this is STILL the biggest "scandal" they have on obama.

"He bought his house below the asking price!!! then later....he bought part of the lot next to his house!!!! HEZ LIK HITLER!!"

You're right, it is a little silly at this point.
When unemployment breaks ten percent this time next year,
no one is going to care who gave Obamer a House in Chi-town.
We'll all be eying the 2010 mid term elections.

michaeld5: log_jammin: it just cracks me up that this is STILL the biggest "scandal" they have on obama.

"He bought his house below the asking price!!! then later....he bought part of the lot next to his house!!!! HEZ LIK HITLER!!"

You're right, it is a little silly at this point.
When unemployment breaks ten percent this time next year,
no one is going to care who gave Obamer a House in Chi-town.
We'll all be eying the 2010 mid term elections.

Yep, it'll be a great chance to throw some more Republicans out of office for causing this mess.

/What? That's not what you meant?

Chicago Corruption Thread!

I'm reading a book I got the other day: My Fall From Grace, pretty interesting personal account by an ex-Alderman/City Clerk who was tossed in the can for bribery. The corruption starts in the second chapter, which is almost immediately because the first is just a brief overview of what he did before he graduated college.

Very interesting take on how one got into politics in the 70s-80s, has a bit on Daley, and also the "Hired Truck" scandal.

Amazonian Bare Breasts (new window)

/My apologies if Amazon links aren't kosher
//Not sure why they wouldn't be
///NOT selling the book
////Chicago paid for these slashies

michaeld5: When unemployment breaks ten percent this time next year,

Whaddayamean next year? Raw unemployment's in the low 12% range, and even that doesn't count a few groups.

Occam's Chainsaw: michaeld5: When unemployment breaks ten percent this time next year,

Whaddayamean next year? Raw unemployment's in the low 12% range, and even that doesn't count a few groups.

Oh, silly me. I was using the federal guv'mint's official unemployment numbers to date.
Are you telling me that we shouldn't trust the numbers the Feds report to us??
Like how they tell us inflation is actually running under one percent now???
Ha ha.

/"Et tu, Brute?"

Occam's Chainsaw: Etchy333: By whom?

The Chicago Machine. Duh.

Bought and paid for, perhaps,
but he's not part of the Chicago machine.

"Daley has no long-standing allegiance to Obama-he hasn't significantly helped Obama at any stage of his career. He didn't endorse him during his successful bid for the state senate or his unsuccessful attempt to unseat Congressman Bobby Rush. He didn't even back him in the 2004 Senate primary. Daley only endorsed Obama in the presidential campaign because he didn't really have a choice-he had to look enthusiastic about the hometown guy, especially since he didn't want to alienate black voters in last year's mayoral election."

http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/theworks/080918/

michaeld5: who gave Obamer a House in Chi-town.

gave?

I'm sure we'll all give this article the critical eye it requires given the massive load of disclaimers at the bottom. Right?

michaeld5: Occam's Chainsaw: michaeld5: When unemployment breaks ten percent this time next year,

Whaddayamean next year? Raw unemployment's in the low 12% range, and even that doesn't count a few groups.

Oh, silly me. I was using the federal guv'mint's official unemployment numbers to date.
Are you telling me that we shouldn't trust the numbers the Feds report to us??
Like how they tell us inflation is actually running under one percent now???
Ha ha.

/"Et tu, Brute?"

That would be that lying, cheating, Muslining, Obamer Administration lying to you about now, right?

Occam's Chainsaw: Etchy333: By whom?

The Chicago Machine. Duh.

/Sounds like the name of a WNBA team.

Yeah, Illinois is completely corrupt. The Republicans should send a clear message to the voters by boycotting Illinois politics -- no Republican should run for office there until 2016.

Random Reality Check:
That would be that lying, cheating, Muslining, Obamer Administration lying to you about now, right?

Muslining? I think you mean Islaming - there aint no such thing as Muslining as I don't know what the heck a Muslin is - unless it's something you do to a yappy dog or some of them there wimin folk.

Is anyone really surprised? I mean I've heard about this for quite some time now - yea Rezko is a Crook, and yea Obama had dealings with him and in some way benefited from the relationship. Can someone explain to me how anyone could possibly work their way through the corrupt system that is Chicago Politics without rubbing elbows with some shady characters or past home grown terrorists? And wouldn't he be just a dumbshait if he didn't get something positive out of rubbing elbows with them? Seriously think about that, would you want your president to be someone who had to get himself a little dirty but was too stupid to get some good shait out of the deal? Not me - if I'm getting stuck with a corrupt motherfarker, I at least want someone who get's positive shait, like cheap houses, political favors etc... out of the deal.

Yea Obama's done his dirty dealing and you can be he got more than CHANGE out o the deal.

/How's that Random Reality Check?

log_jammin: log_jammin: theor

I meant to do that...

You're lying and you're a lyar for saying it!

Relatively Obscure: Paging NYZooMan. We need a sentence with a sarcastic reference to the word "CHANGE," (upper-case only, please), stat.

That guy is clockwork. Darconix was hitting hard yesterday with some fine christmas songs worked into a complete metric ton of fail.

Why are people making a big deal over stuff like this? Obama is a Chicago politician. It's not as if corruption should come as a surprise. Someone who comes from a sewer is going to smell. On the positive side, Chicago is a town where things actually do get done, one way or another. People just need to remember where to put the grease whenever dealing with a Chicago politician.

Silly_Sot: People just need to remember where to put the grease whenever dealing with a Chicago politician.

Like when the oil hits the anus?

Silly_Sot: On the positive side, Chicago is a town where things actually do get done, one way or another.


Translation...its OK when Democrats do it.

Jerome Corsi. Hrm.

He could shoot video witnessed by Jesus Christ and notarized by Mohammed, with Buddha as a character witness, and I'd still be skeptical.

Those claimed ownership details are not present in the online assessment tool (pops): http://tinyurl.com/8ct7hn

ilambiquated: Yeah, Illinois is completely corrupt. The Republicans should send a clear message to the voters by boycotting Illinois politics -- no Republican should run for office there until 2016.

Oh please, the Republican party is no better there. The last governor, a Republican, is still in jail on corruption charges.

I wouldnt mind my Employer(FTA) buying me a mansion

Canis,

Hope you had a great Christmas.


CanisNoir: Random Reality Check:
That would be that lying, cheating, Muslining, Obamer Administration lying to you about now, right?

Muslining? I think you mean Islaming - there aint no such thing as Muslining as I don't know what the heck a Muslin is - unless it's something you do to a yappy dog or some of them there wimin folk.


Muslin - kind of a subtle Fark Joke...

CanisNoir: Is anyone really surprised? I mean I've heard about this for quite some time now - yea Rezko is a Crook, and yea Obama had dealings with him and in some way benefited from the relationship.

And if there was any evidence of anything illegal that could be proved I'm sure Hillary would have pursued that to the ends of the earth.

You are also making the implied claim that Obama knew and actively participated in something illegal, which I don't necessarily believe. If Obama had his sights on the US presidency, why would he risk it on a lousy real estate deal? The guy is a best selling author and can afford to buy what he wants.

CanisNoir: Can someone explain to me how anyone could possibly work their way through the corrupt system that is Chicago Politics without rubbing elbows with some shady characters or past home grown terrorists?

I live in Chicago for two years when I was younger. I met some pretty unsavory characters but never did anything illegal - or, I should say, nothing that everyone else hasn't done.

Why is it hard for you or anyone else to believe that a person can go about his life, including his professional life, without engaging in illegal activities?

As to the domestic terrorist activities, well, if there was anything to it worth pursuing, the government should have gone after Ayers. Oh wait, they did, using illegal means and thereby disqualified any evidence they might have been able to bring to court.

I guess Ayers gets a pass.
That's how our system works.
Do you want to change the system?

CanisNoir: And wouldn't he be just a dumbshait if he didn't get something positive out of rubbing elbows with them?

Keeping inside the legal structure when you are a lawyer and have political aspiration is now dumb?

Huh?

CanisNoir: Seriously think about that, would you want your president to be someone who had to get himself a little dirty but was too stupid to get some good shait out of the deal?

Yes, actually, I would.

Just once I would like to have a politician that pledged to restore honor and integrity to the White House that actually lived up to it.

Or did you sneer when you voted for George Bush, knowing that he was lying to you - but that's okay with you anyway? Seriously.

CanisNoir: Not me - if I'm getting stuck with a corrupt motherfarker, I at least want someone who get's positive shait, like cheap houses, political favors etc... out of the deal.

While I get you might be being sarcastic here, I also know that this could be something that I do not share with many people who believe what you just jokingly posted. I do not want a corrupt motherfarker in office - we've had more than enough of them.-


CanisNoir: Yea Obama's done his dirty dealing and you can be he got more than CHANGE out o the deal.

I honestly don't like the unfounded insinuation - not one bit.
If you can prove anything, I would be thrilled to see it brought before a court. If not, vomiting crap like this is uncalled for - and should be actionable, even though when you become a public figure this right to have redress is removed.

That is something that I would like to see changed in our legal system.

CanisNoir: /How's that Random Reality Check?

Pretty crappy.


<personal threadjack>

A few weeks back you asked me why I had such a distaste for Sarah Palin and why I was adamantly opposed to her becoming president. At the time you asked I did not have a clear answer for you and that has bothered me since then.

So, without further delay, and with the hopeful acceptance of the greater Fark community, I will answer your question, in depth, now.

Sarah Palin brings to the table a lot of beliefs that I do not want being an influence on the national level. Yes, I understand the point you made with respect to her not signing a bill about gay marriage but that is not what I am talking about.

Sarah Palin believes that the earth is 6,000 years old and that one belief, among many others, scares the living bejeebus out of me.

You see, the president's responsibilities included appointing cabinet members that will basically run much of the United States' infrastructure with little to (as in President Reagan's case) no oversight.

I do not want a Secretary of Education appointed that does believes in Young Earth Creation Theory and thereby does not believe in evolution any more than I want the National Science Foundation stocked with people who reject what science has taught us.

We depend on these government agencies to not only push for progress in our medical sciences (as well as many other branches of science) but also to help shape the next generation of educated people.

While I have no proof to offer, I believe the "dumbing down of America" is directly attributable to President Reagan and his "incurious" nature.

Our country's development, as well as our financial future, depend on the choices we make today - and Sarah Palin is a bad choice.

I have asked you this before and not received an answer I felt was direct enough, so I'll ask it again, Do you believe that Sarah Palin is the best possible person for the job of President? If not, will you explain to me what rationale anyone would raise to put someone other than the most qualified person in what is probably the most important job in the world?

As an aside, how the heck do you choose a doctor? Do you look for the best in their field and then reject them because they are too good for you?
</personal threadjack>

michaeld5: who gave Obamer a House in Chi-town.

Jew did, baby, Jew did

Who put black in White House

Jew did, baby, Jew did

/GoodasGold impression

Lundah: ilambiquated: Yeah, Illinois is completely corrupt. The Republicans should send a clear message to the voters by boycotting Illinois politics -- no Republican should run for office there until 2016.

Oh please, the Republican party is no better there. The last governor, a Republican, is still in jail on corruption charges.

Must be a RINO. Real Americans don't get involved in Illinois politics. Kudos to CanisNoir for pointing out that this region is inherently evil and should be avoided by True Republican leaders.

Well, if Jerome Corsi, Swift Boat veteran (not an actual veteran in a swift boat, of course), author of The Obama Nation, and the originator of the birth certificate slur says it's true, it must be true. Thanks, subby!

You read World Nut Daily! Brag to your friends! Use it to get chicks!

The deed to the property should be in the public record. Can someone just look at that and settle this? So far, its not that Obama is corrupt, its just his staff (new window) and cabinet members. (new window) I think Obama just has a poor ability to pick his associates given the number of people under his proverbial bus.

soy_bomb: The deed to the property should be in the public record. Can someone just look at that and settle this?

Don't be silly, we don't need anything as transient and ephemeral as "facts".

Random Reality Check

Hope your Christmas was good and relaxing!

Crappy?! Really? I mean sure, it wasn't my best work, but I thought I had something with the whole "Muslin the wimmin folk" thing - jeesh.

/Minor Thread Jack - Promise - Though even Drew should admit the meer mention of Sarah Palin creates monstrous threads with some decent advertising I would think ;)

Sarah Palin brings to the table a lot of beliefs that I do not want being an influence on the national level. Yes, I understand the point you made with respect to her not signing a bill about gay marriage but that is not what I am talking about.
Sarah Palin believes that the earth is 6,000 years old and that one belief, among many others, scares the living bejeebus out of me.
You see, the president's responsibilities included appointing cabinet members that will basically run much of the United States' infrastructure with little to (as in President Reagan's case) no oversight.
I do not want a Secretary of Education appointed that does believes in Young Earth Creation Theory and thereby does not believe in evolution any more than I want the National Science Foundation stocked with people who reject what science has taught us.
We depend on these government agencies to not only push for progress in our medical sciences (as well as many other branches of science) but also to help shape the next generation of educated people.

I'll be honest, I haven't seen any proof that Palin adheres strictly to the belief that the Earth is only 6000 years old. She's the daughter of a Science Teacher and I would think that with that in your upbringing, regardless of how born again you are, you're still going to believe in the Scientific Method and Geology. Saying that Palin believes the Earth is only 6000 years old right now is the same as saying Obama believes that Aids is an epidemic created by whites to kill off blacks and that the Chickens came home to roost on 9/11. I would only ask that you allow Palin the same type of latitude that you allow Obama with regards to what their preachers proclaim in sermons.

She has had to make appointments as Alaska's chief Executive and I've yet to see a re-emergance of the Inquisition due to her appointments. In fact, judging from her governance history I would have to say your fears are completely unfounded, or again, at least as reasonable as those people who feared Obama because of Reverend Wright.

While I have no proof to offer, I believe the "dumbing down of America" is directly attributable to President Reagan and his "incurious" nature.

Our country's development, as well as our financial future, depend on the choices we make today - and Sarah Palin is a bad choice.

Regarding the "Dumbing Down of America" I would really have to disagree with you. I'm not that old, but I was spent a few of my first years in a house without indoor plumbing on a farm, and despite the fact that my formative years were spent on the streets of Detroit, the smell of cow manure is actually pleasantly nostalgic to me. (It's rather hard to explain unless you're affected by it)There's plenty of types of Dumb, and just because someone is "Folksie" does not mean they are stupid, and I think a lot of this anti-intellectualism (as the intellectual's label it, because folksy people call it anti-elitism) is due to the fact that those people from the Ivy Leagues and coasts are not shy about thinking those people with a slower lifestyle or one closer to the land are stupid; it's arrogant and many people resent it.

If anything one would say that much of "Fly over" country is loaded with more common sense and "honor" than the coasters have. Personally I think the Dumbing down started with Political Correctness and overly concerned baby boomers and their immediate offspring who coddle their children, but like you I have only my opinion and empirical evidence to support it.

I have asked you this before and not received an answer I felt was direct enough, so I'll ask it again, Do you believe that Sarah Palin is the best possible person for the job of President? If not, will you explain to me what rationale anyone would raise to put someone other than the most qualified person in what is probably the most important job in the world?
As an aside, how the heck do you choose a doctor? Do you look for the best in their field and then reject them because they are too good for you?

The reason I never answered your question was because the premise behind it wasn't valid. Sarah Palin wasn't running for President, McCain was, and yes I thought he would be better than Obama. It's like saying "So you think Biden was the best man to be president? Okay, why isn't he the top of the ticket?" It's just a faulty premise.

Personally I hope she doesn't run in 2012 because I think Obama would have to really fark up something fierce not to ride this train all the way to two terms and she might as well spend those eight years polishing her act. I think after that amount of time, she's got what it takes to shine, but that's still a long ways away and I could easily be proven wrong. So far, I've liked what I saw; I think she was handed a huge pile of Shait being brought on so late and having to parrot somebody else's message for her first time out and even with all the bumps, considering what was arrayed against her, she did a pretty damn good job of holding it together.

Actually I chose a doctor for convenience. Not being privy to everyone's Scholastic and Medical History I really don't know which one is the "Best in their field" - so I chose the one closest to me - then if I don't like him\her, I choose someone else; though I am admittedly horrible about seeing doctors.

/End Threadjack - let the add money flow in :P

Billy McGoodGuy: Neocons just can't stand to see a black man not be the house negro. Too bad, republitards. You lost, get over it.

Why do I see Cartman saying this?

Billy McGoodGuy: Neocons just can't stand to see a black man not be the house negro. Too bad, republitards. You lost, get over it.

Yea, that's what it is. Ignore the obvious with more tired childish excuses. It's no wonder more and more people are second guessing the decision to support obama.

More change we can believe in, right?

Billy McGoodGuy: Neocons just can't stand to see a black man not be the house negro. Too bad, republitards. You lost, get over it.

Whachoo talkin 'bout? He's goin ta be the White House Negro!

Pubitards and Libertardians (and subtard):

Read the article. Go ahead and read it. I did. The article does not make any connection between Obama and Rezko other than five hours of due diligence work on a housing project. Large law firms do all kinds of work and have many different clients, and it appears Obama did not work on any of Rezko's files other than the above stated.

i.e. you're all full of shiat.

Sometimes the straws are too far away to grasp. Why don't you try something a little more substantial next time.

Macinfarker: Sometimes the straws are too far away to grasp. Why don't you try something a little more substantial next time.

you're expecting journalism from World Nut Daily?