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what_now [TotalFark] 2008-12-23 02:43:03 PM  
No Scooter Libby? Well, he's still got a month.

 
Snot Monster from Outer Space 2008-12-23 03:03:35 PM  
I wonder how many people had heard of Mark Rich before Clinton pardoned him?

 
Insurance_EE_guy [TotalFark] 2008-12-23 03:13:31 PM  
Ok, who the fark is Delano Abraham Nixon of Neosho Rapids, Kansas?

Sounds Republican.

 
robsul82 [TotalFark] 2008-12-23 03:34:57 PM  
As long as Miss Precious Perfect gets to live in Keith's condo, that's fine.

 
burndtdan 2008-12-23 03:50:43 PM  
robsul82: As long as Miss Precious Perfect gets to live in Keith's condo, that's fine.

and as long as his subway sandwich has the double meat that is advertised.

 
seventypercent [TotalFark] 2008-12-23 04:12:49 PM  
Snot Monster from Outer Space: I wonder how many people had heard of Mark Rich before Clinton pardoned him?

I visited this particular discussion to make a comment that is quite similar to that which I have italicized above.

 
steveo 2008-12-23 04:15:40 PM  
Holy crap, no Ted Stevens? I just lost $20!

 
Juansmith 2008-12-23 04:18:08 PM  
Snot Monster from Outer Space: I wonder how many people had heard of Mark Rich before Clinton pardoned him?

ZOMGFUGITIVEFINANCIERGARBL

 
stargazer101 2008-12-23 04:20:54 PM  
steveo: Holy crap, no Ted Stevens? I just lost $20!

Hold off on forking that money over - there's still time...

 
friendinpa [TotalFark] 2008-12-23 04:22:48 PM  
seventypercent
Snot Monster from Outer Space:
I wonder how many people had heard of Mark Rich before Clinton pardoned him?

I visited this particular discussion to make a comment that is quite similar to that which I have italicized above.


Almost everyone who follows business knew who Marc Rich was even before Clinton did. Not to mention everyone who could read a news paper in the 1980's.

 
gustakooka [TotalFark] 2008-12-23 04:30:16 PM  
friendinpa: seventypercent
Snot Monster from Outer Space: I wonder how many people had heard of Mark Rich before Clinton pardoned him?

I visited this particular discussion to make a comment that is quite similar to that which I have italicized above.

Almost everyone who follows business knew who Marc Rich was even before Clinton did. Not to mention everyone who could read a news paper in the 1980's.


Cue the "Oh Snap" image.

 
veedeevadeevoodee [TotalFark] 2008-12-23 04:31:30 PM  
www.marzone.com

/ at least it wasn't this douchebag

 
what_now [TotalFark] 2008-12-23 04:39:32 PM  
I'm shocked he didn't pardon John Walker Lyndh.

 
GAT_00 [TotalFark] 2008-12-23 05:08:53 PM  
Nice, he pardoned an arms dealer. Guess he doesn't think anyone killing Arabs is a bad thing.

flame on

 
Snot Monster from Outer Space 2008-12-23 06:20:06 PM  
friendinpa: seventypercent
Snot Monster from Outer Space: I wonder how many people had heard of Mark Rich before Clinton pardoned him?

I visited this particular discussion to make a comment that is quite similar to that which I have italicized above.

Almost everyone who follows business knew who Marc Rich was even before Clinton did. Not to mention everyone who could read a news paper in the 1980's.


Really? I just did a Lexis Nexis search on Mark Rich prior to 2000 and turned up just a couple of stories on him. Perhaps people directly in his field had heard of him, but he had zero media presence until Clinton pardoned him.

 
GurneyHalleck [TotalFark] 2008-12-23 06:42:38 PM  
I'm surprised he didn't pardon Satan, his benefactor and Lord.

 
NightOwl2255 2008-12-23 06:50:31 PM  
This is just the warm up x-mas list. Just wait till Jan 20th. There will be many names everyone has heard of, including G.W. Bush.

 
Phil Herup 2008-12-23 06:55:16 PM  
Came here to say "Mark Rich"


/and then leave

 
Bender The Offender 2008-12-23 06:57:52 PM  
GurneyHalleck: I'm surprised he didn't pardon Satan, his benefactor and Lord.

Not me, I figure Rove's pardon will cover it byproxy.

 
Dalrint 2008-12-23 06:58:43 PM  
He pardoned a small scale counterfitter and a lady who commited mail fraud?

Now, I'm not saying it's wrong to pardon those people, but how do they even end up on his rader?

 
liberalish 2008-12-23 06:59:57 PM  
Eh, sounds like small potatoes here. I am not concerned with executive pardons of people who committed crimes and then lived normal productive lives for the next 10-40 years. If anything I am happy for these people, they didn't let a failure destroy them forever. As long as he's not pardoning murderers, rapists, big time crooks, or personal associates I'm ok with it.

/I really don't think this is a partisan issue., I apply my criteria to both sides.

 
liberalish 2008-12-23 07:02:30 PM  
Dalrint: He pardoned a small scale counterfitter and a lady who commited mail fraud?

Now, I'm not saying it's wrong to pardon those people, but how do they even end up on his rader?


You just have to ask. I've heard that they actually don't receive that many requests. And why do we then hear about these small timers getting pardoned? Because they are the ones whose crimes are forgivable.

 
sewiusproductions 2008-12-23 07:07:39 PM  
steveo: Holy crap, no Ted Stevens? YET! I just lost $20!

FTFY, hold on to your $20 until January 19th.

 
Modest Proposal 2008-12-23 07:08:08 PM  
Hey he pardon some victims of the weed prohibition. Might be the best domestic policy move he has ever done.

 
Dirty Hot Linker 2008-12-23 07:11:18 PM  
FTFA: Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, former U.S. Border Patrol agents who were convicted of shooting a drug smuggler in 2005 and trying to cover it up

These two guys need pardons more than anyone, on any list, ever.

 
Britney Spear's Speculum 2008-12-23 07:13:08 PM  
Dirty Hot Linker: FTFA: Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, former U.S. Border Patrol agents who were convicted of shooting a drug smuggler in 2005 and trying to cover it updoing their job

These two guys need pardons more than anyone, on any list, ever.


FTFM

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2008-12-23 07:23:28 PM  
Hmm...a meth dealer on the list. I guess that's a shout-out to Sarah Palin.

 
PascalsGhost 2008-12-23 07:24:30 PM  
Dirty Hot Linker: FTFA: Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, former U.S. Border Patrol agents who were convicted of shooting a drug smuggler in 2005 and trying to cover it up

These two guys need pardons more than anyone, on any list, ever.


No they don't. Not even people in the Fed think so. They abused their power, which is a very dangerous thing to allow.

Who they shot makes no difference. there is a good reason they were convicted and a good reason they will stay that way.

 
PascalsGhost 2008-12-23 07:25:54 PM  
GAT_00: Nice, he pardoned an arms dealer. Guess he doesn't think anyone killing Arabs is a bad thing.

flame on


Foxnews and the rest have it front page. They make him out to be a hero. Violating arms embargoes when your country is declared neutral isn't really anything that should be forgiven.

Unless you helped Israel, then its all good.

 
Britney Spear's Speculum 2008-12-23 07:26:02 PM  
PascalsGhost: No they don't. Not even people in the Fed think so. They abused their power, which is a very dangerous thing to allow.

Who they shot makes no difference. there is a good reason they were convicted and a good reason they will stay that way


How did they "abuse" their power?

 
Britney Spear's Speculum 2008-12-23 07:27:51 PM  
PascalsGhost: Dirty Hot Linker: FTFA: Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, former U.S. Border Patrol agents who were convicted of shooting a drug smuggler in 2005 and trying to cover it up

These two guys need pardons more than anyone, on any list, ever.

No they don't. Not even people in the Fed think so. They abused their power, which is a very dangerous thing to allow.

Who they shot makes no difference. there is a good reason they were convicted and a good reason they will stay that way.


Oh well if the FED think so then it must be. The Fed is so infallible.

 
PascalsGhost 2008-12-23 07:33:22 PM  
Britney Spear's Speculum: PascalsGhost: No they don't. Not even people in the Fed think so. They abused their power, which is a very dangerous thing to allow.

Who they shot makes no difference. there is a good reason they were convicted and a good reason they will stay that way

How did they "abuse" their power?


They shot an unarmeed- fleeing suspect, destroyed evidence, and attempted a cover-up. The guy involved may have been a bad person, but the law doesn't care. And for goos reason. Officers are given great power, and they have great responsibility with it.



Britney Spear's Speculum: PascalsGhost: Dirty Hot Linker: FTFA: Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, former U.S. Border Patrol agents who were convicted of shooting a drug smuggler in 2005 and trying to cover it up

These two guys need pardons more than anyone, on any list, ever.

No they don't. Not even people in the Fed think so. They abused their power, which is a very dangerous thing to allow.

Who they shot makes no difference. there is a good reason they were convicted and a good reason they will stay that way.

Oh well if the FED think so then it must be. The Fed is so infallible.


No, but when the US attorneys don't side wiht federal border patrol agents, you can bet they have a good reason. These guys are on the same side.

 
Juniper Jupiter [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-12-23 07:42:17 PM  
And Leonard Peltier is STILL in prison?

Hmmm...

And I'll bet Delano Abraham Nixon was released because he was named after THREE presidents, am I right?

 
michaeld5 2008-12-23 07:49:19 PM  
what_now: No Scooter Libby? Well, he's still got a month.

Scooter got his sentence commuted over a year ago.

 
michaeld5 2008-12-23 07:51:28 PM  
Phil Herup: Came here to say "Mark Rich"


/and then leave


At least post a pic of Denise Rich...
nymag.com

 
jakomo002 2008-12-23 07:51:31 PM  
If those two border guards don't get a pardon, I just might start watching Lou Dobbs again, just so I can watch him whine and cry and get all uppity.

Those guys deserve prison. If they didn't think they had done anything wrong, they wouldn't have tried to cover it up. They broke the law by doing so, and must do their time.

 
alltaken 2008-12-23 07:52:33 PM  
PascalsGhost: Britney Spear's Speculum: PascalsGhost: No they don't. Not even people in the Fed think so. They abused their power, which is a very dangerous thing to allow.

Who they shot makes no difference. there is a good reason they were convicted and a good reason they will stay that way

How did they "abuse" their power?

They shot an unarmeed- fleeing suspect, destroyed evidence, and attempted a cover-up. The guy involved may have been a bad person, but the law doesn't care. And for goos reason. Officers are given great power, and they have great responsibility with it.



Britney Spear's Speculum: PascalsGhost: Dirty Hot Linker: FTFA: Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, former U.S. Border Patrol agents who were convicted of shooting a drug smuggler in 2005 and trying to cover it up

These two guys need pardons more than anyone, on any list, ever.

No they don't. Not even people in the Fed think so. They abused their power, which is a very dangerous thing to allow.

Who they shot makes no difference. there is a good reason they were convicted and a good reason they will stay that way.

Oh well if the FED think so then it must be. The Fed is so infallible.

No, but when the US attorneys don't side wiht federal border patrol agents, you can bet they have a good reason. These guys are on the same side.


You don't know what you're talking about! There was no cover up. The jury that convicted them, after it was over and they heard ALL the evidence, said they would not have convicted them. It's sad that a jury never gets to hear everything. But in this case these border agents were railroaded.

 
PascalsGhost 2008-12-23 07:56:10 PM  
alltaken: PascalsGhost: Britney Spear's Speculum: PascalsGhost: No they don't. Not even people in the Fed think so. They abused their power, which is a very dangerous thing to allow.

Who they shot makes no difference. there is a good reason they were convicted and a good reason they will stay that way

How did they "abuse" their power?

They shot an unarmeed- fleeing suspect, destroyed evidence, and attempted a cover-up. The guy involved may have been a bad person, but the law doesn't care. And for goos reason. Officers are given great power, and they have great responsibility with it.



Britney Spear's Speculum: PascalsGhost: Dirty Hot Linker: FTFA: Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, former U.S. Border Patrol agents who were convicted of shooting a drug smuggler in 2005 and trying to cover it up

These two guys need pardons more than anyone, on any list, ever.

No they don't. Not even people in the Fed think so. They abused their power, which is a very dangerous thing to allow.

Who they shot makes no difference. there is a good reason they were convicted and a good reason they will stay that way.

Oh well if the FED think so then it must be. The Fed is so infallible.

No, but when the US attorneys don't side wiht federal border patrol agents, you can bet they have a good reason. These guys are on the same side.

You don't know what you're talking about! There was no cover up. The jury that convicted them, after it was over and they heard ALL the evidence, said they would not have convicted them. It's sad that a jury never gets to hear everything. But in this case these border agents were railroaded.


No, they weren't. They covered it up. The jury didn't get to hear the victims record, for the very reason that they would have felt different.

Read the Fed's case. The fed doesn't have an interest in railroading federal agents. They broke the law. Pull your head out of your ass and turn Lou Dobbs off.

If you think letting cops cover-up crime scenes and lie is good for America, you're an idiot. Anytime a cop lies on a report, they need to go away for a long time, cause the only thing that keeps justice afloat is the cops being honest.

 
ucfknights 2008-12-23 07:57:14 PM  
watch the news wire tomorrow night to see who else gets pardoned.

 
Sphaux 2008-12-23 07:57:31 PM  
PascalsGhost: Officers are given great power, and they have great responsibility with it.

Uncle Ben?

 
alltaken 2008-12-23 07:58:12 PM  
Mexicans are getting away with way too much on and within our border. There were more people killed in the last year in this country by Mexican drug dealers than were killed in the whole Iraq war.

 
alltaken 2008-12-23 08:02:51 PM  
PascalsGhost: alltaken: PascalsGhost: Britney Spear's Speculum: PascalsGhost: No they don't. Not even people in the Fed think so. They abused their power, which is a very dangerous thing to allow.

Who they shot makes no difference. there is a good reason they were convicted and a good reason they will stay that way

How did they "abuse" their power?

They shot an unarmeed- fleeing suspect, destroyed evidence, and attempted a cover-up. The guy involved may have been a bad person, but the law doesn't care. And for goos reason. Officers are given great power, and they have great responsibility with it.



Britney Spear's Speculum: PascalsGhost: Dirty Hot Linker: FTFA: Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, former U.S. Border Patrol agents who were convicted of shooting a drug smuggler in 2005 and trying to cover it up

These two guys need pardons more than anyone, on any list, ever.

No they don't. Not even people in the Fed think so. They abused their power, which is a very dangerous thing to allow.

Who they shot makes no difference. there is a good reason they were convicted and a good reason they will stay that way.

Oh well if the FED think so then it must be. The Fed is so infallible.

No, but when the US attorneys don't side wiht federal border patrol agents, you can bet they have a good reason. These guys are on the same side.

You don't know what you're talking about! There was no cover up. The jury that convicted them, after it was over and they heard ALL the evidence, said they would not have convicted them. It's sad that a jury never gets to hear everything. But in this case these border agents were railroaded.

No, they weren't. They covered it up. The jury didn't get to hear the victims record, for the very reason that they would have felt different.

Read the Fed's case. The fed doesn't have an interest in railroading federal agents. They broke the law. Pull your head out of your ass and turn Lou Dobbs off.

If you think letting cops cover-up crime scenes and lie is good for America, you're an idiot. Anytime a cop lies on a report, they need to go away for a long time, cause the only thing that keeps justice afloat is the cops being honest.


Do your research idiot. Their superiors showed up on site within minutes of the incident. Thats why there was no formal written report because it was reported immediately first hand. There are a couple of congressmen that keep pushing for a new trial. Because they read all the evidence. When you don't know what you're talking about you should STFU

 
fatassbastard [TotalFark] 2008-12-23 08:06:11 PM  
alltaken: There were more people killed in the last year in this country by Mexican drug dealers than were killed in the whole Iraq war.

img126.imageshack.us

 
PascalsGhost 2008-12-23 08:07:07 PM  
alltaken: PascalsGhost: alltaken: PascalsGhost: Britney Spear's Speculum: PascalsGhost: No they don't. Not even people in the Fed think so. They abused their power, which is a very dangerous thing to allow.

Who they shot makes no difference. there is a good reason they were convicted and a good reason they will stay that way

How did they "abuse" their power?

They shot an unarmeed- fleeing suspect, destroyed evidence, and attempted a cover-up. The guy involved may have been a bad person, but the law doesn't care. And for goos reason. Officers are given great power, and they have great responsibility with it.



Britney Spear's Speculum: PascalsGhost: Dirty Hot Linker: FTFA: Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, former U.S. Border Patrol agents who were convicted of shooting a drug smuggler in 2005 and trying to cover it up

These two guys need pardons more than anyone, on any list, ever.

No they don't. Not even people in the Fed think so. They abused their power, which is a very dangerous thing to allow.

Who they shot makes no difference. there is a good reason they were convicted and a good reason they will stay that way.

Oh well if the FED think so then it must be. The Fed is so infallible.

No, but when the US attorneys don't side wiht federal border patrol agents, you can bet they have a good reason. These guys are on the same side.

You don't know what you're talking about! There was no cover up. The jury that convicted them, after it was over and they heard ALL the evidence, said they would not have convicted them. It's sad that a jury never gets to hear everything. But in this case these border agents were railroaded.

No, they weren't. They covered it up. The jury didn't get to hear the victims record, for the very reason that they would have felt different.

Read the Fed's case. The fed doesn't have an interest in railroading federal agents. They broke the law. Pull your head out of your ass and turn Lou Dobbs off.

If you think letting cops cover-up crime scenes and lie is good for America, you're an idiot. Anytime a cop lies on a report, they need to go away for a long time, cause the only thing that keeps justice afloat is the cops being honest.

Do your research idiot. Their superiors showed up on site within minutes of the incident. Thats why there was no formal written report because it was reported immediately first hand. There are a couple of congressmen that keep pushing for a new trial. Because they read all the evidence. When you don't know what you're talking about you should STFU


LOL, bullshiat bro. You don't chose to do a written report or not. They lied, they tried to cover it up. No question.

I suppose you believe the Mexican government pushed for the convictions too? Corsi tell you that?

Bad cops need to go to prison. Even if they are only shooting worthless Mexicans.


I know what I'm talking about, the Fed knows what they are talking about, and that is why they won't be pardoned. They broke the law. Deal with it.

 
PascalsGhost 2008-12-23 08:08:36 PM  
alltaken: Mexicans are getting away with way too much on and within our border. There were more people killed in the last year in this country by Mexican drug dealers than were killed in the whole Iraq war.

You are a complete fukking idiot.

 
GoodasGold 2008-12-23 08:21:26 PM  
michaeld5: Phil Herup: Came here to say "Mark Rich"


/and then leave

At least post a pic of Denise Rich...


Wow. Nice nose job. The later surgery is not bad too. A little too much time outside in Miami though. Still, knowing Bill, he probably enjoyed coming in that hair.

 
wrongway 2008-12-23 08:26:25 PM  
GAT_00: Nice, he pardoned an arms dealer. Guess he doesn't think anyone killing Arabs is a bad thing.

flame on


Yo'r fonna...

 
eddiesocket 2008-12-23 08:32:32 PM  
Lame duck pardons are wrong, and should be illegal. Period. Weather your last name is Bush or Clinton. If you can't face the political consequences of your pardons, you shouldn't be making them.

 
Bucky Katt [TotalFark] 2008-12-23 08:35:16 PM  
Good. Someone needs to be outraged about President shiathead.

Send George W. Bush to The Hague.

 
ravenlore [TotalFark] 2008-12-23 08:35:49 PM  
Awesome headline subby. I LOL'ed

/Olbermann fan

 
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