Mmmmm: BACON.

/all else is irrelevant

I love hearing them cry about how expensive it is to be Vegan.

Bacon is delicious enough to justify the destruction of the planet.

Seriously.

Yeah, and if the vegetarian in question isn't a prick about their decision not to eat meat, they will laugh it off, and you'll stop bothering them.

It's like any other kind of teasing ever. Except with righteousness thrown in.

Hey, only a tiny, fraction of the 1 Billion + Muslims on the planet are like that. Please don't paint 1/6 of the planet with such a large brush.

Vegans on the other hand...

eraser8: Bacon is delicious enough to justify the destruction of the planet.

Seriously.

Oh yes it is.
Sweet tasty Bacon.

Humans are omnivores. The author needs to get over it.

eraser8: Bacon is delicious enough to justify the destruction of the planet.

Seriously.

I know!

I have a vegan roommate and she can't eat anything. There's always something wrong with everything. The amount of effort she has to put in just to circumvent regular ingredients you could buy anywhere is astonishing.

Fark that. I'm a fatty, I need bacon. The grease helps lube up my arteries.

As a vegetarian, I'd like to speak up and say we're not all a bunch of whiny premadonnas. I believe that people should be free to eat what they want. However, I do think that people should see where the food they eat comes from. I would like to challenge all meat eaters to visit a slaughterhouse and see what really goes on there. People got all prissy about Palin giving that interview while turkeys were being killed for Thanksgiving. Where do you think turkey dinners come from? I happen to agree with the saying that there would be a lot more vegetarians if everyone had to gut and clean their own meat.

thatguyfred: I love hearing them cry about how expensive it is to be Vegan.

They're doing it wrong. They are following the marketing campaigns for over-priced apparel and accessories that are just exploiting their livestyles. Hey, you can't blame a manufacturer for wanting to ride a wave.

That said, living vegetarian is cheap and can be quite healthy - depending on your body's needs. After all, we're all built a bit differently.

I won't talk about it unless someone asks me, though. And, I'm certainly not going to get on a soapbox because someone orders a burger for lunch. I give a shiat. It's there lunch money.

eraser8: Bacon is delicious enough to justify the destruction of the planet.

Seriously.

So is filet mignon. Especially if it's cooked properly. And by that I mean bacon-wrapped.

You can eat all the "nuts, grain and soya protein topped off with brussel sprouts, bread sauce, roast potatoes" you want. You're still gonna die.

/bacon wrapped anything FTW!

"Gets stroppy"? C'mon subby, speak proper English. I got nothing against vegetarians, but those like the writer of this article need a good boot stomping.

Or...

red230: I would like to challenge all meat eaters to visit a slaughterhouse and see what really goes on there.

My mostly vegeterian friend who abstains from meat for "sustainability" reasons sent me an Alec Baldwin-narrated clip of the various atrocities that go on at industrial slaughterhouses. I was appalled, but my priorities are such that as a result I don't care. I like bacon and steak more than I care about how a cow or pig feels before it dies.

red230: I happen to agree with the saying that there would be a lot more vegetarians if everyone had to gut and clean their own meat.

That's true, because people are lazy and/or squeamish. I remember getting iffy about gutting a damn grouse I shot when I was 13. You get over it, though. Mmm... game birds...

I used to be a broke vegan. Pretty much all I ate was rice. It's okay once you get used to eating about once per day and don't mind people asking you if you're okay because you look sick...

I've met a couple of liberal vegans and they're always weaklings like that kid you knew in elementary school who was allergic to strawberrys and always had a runny nose.

Humans need meat to survive. That's a proven fact.

Driving a Hummer is more wasteful than driving a Prius.

FTA: "Producing protein by raising animals is an undeniably wasteful process."

Two statements of fact. You can bicker over whether people who point these things out tend to be whiny or wimpy, but they at least have the advantage of being correct.

I don't understand how vegans, who eat all our planet's oxygen producing life forms, can claim that we meat eaters are destroying the world.

Just some cultural differences how people in Asia and USA see it:

ASIA:
Veggie - Healthy diet
Corns as feed for pig - Wasteful
Vegetarian - humble, good control of self (to not eat meat), rarely see shoving their lifestyle on others.

USA:
Veggie - Skinny, bony diet
Corns as feed for pig - good for economy
Vegetarian - Smug, truly must brag about their holiness

Seriously, it's really a cultural shock for me seeing Americans mocking Vegans and Vegans being total smugs about their diets.

red230: As a vegetarian, I'd like to speak up and say we're not all a bunch of whiny premadonnas. I believe that people should be free to eat what they want. However, I do think that people should see where the food they eat comes from. I would like to challenge all meat eaters to visit a slaughterhouse and see what really goes on there. People got all prissy about Palin giving that interview while turkeys were being killed for Thanksgiving. Where do you think turkey dinners come from? I happen to agree with the saying that there would be a lot more vegetarians if everyone had to gut and clean their own meat.

I agree with you. Which is why I am surprised whenever I hear a meat eater act all offended about hunting.

What I would like (moral) vegetarians to consider is their concept of superior life. Vegetarians who don't eat animals because they feel killing is wrong, to me, are missing the bigger picture. They kill lots of things to eat, they just don't relate to their existence like they would an animal. Does that mean the life you are killing is worth less than the life of a pig? How do you get to make such a decision? Are you guilty of anthropomorphizing?

I'm not trying to morally judge you here and I'd really like a logical answer. I'm willing to change my mind if the argument is good enough.

FTA: 'Research shows that life expectancy is higher for vegetarians or occasional meat eaters than it is for those who eat meat on a regular basis.'

Yet vegetarians still die; fancy that.

Eating meat is INSTINCT; NOT eating meat is choice.

Studson: I don't understand how vegans, who eat all our planet's oxygen producing life forms, can claim that we meat eaters are destroying the world.

I'm not one of them, but they'd probly say that the feed and clear land needed for massive amounts of cattle and pigs makes a far bigger dent than their serving of broccoli

More for me.

Scott Thrust: Humans need meat to survive. That's a proven fact.

Not so much. They need protein. You might get yours from a steak and I get mine from legumes or fish. We're both happy campers.

It's the order of life. Vegans are weak and puny and fun to beat up. Meat eaters are big and awesome and have stinky poop.

/wait what?

Studson: I don't understand how vegans, who eat all our planet's oxygen producing life forms, can claim that we meat eaters are destroying the world.

The main argument (and a valid one at that) is that the corns you gave a pig could have feed more people directly.

Numerically, that's correct. But life needs variety. I can't live without bacon.

she's not eatin' bacon, not
eatin' sausage,
and she won't eat eggs,
not eatin' chicken
not eatin' turkey, she
won't have a steak,
but i just can't help feelin'
sorry
for this poor little lettuce head
you know, i can't stop cryin' cause i
know this broccoli's dead

vegetarian? i'm not a vegetarian,
vegetarian...she's a

poor little cow, little sheep,
little fish
how can I sleep? when carrots
are bleedin'
plants are screamin' and tomatoes cry,
you say "it's not so bad, they're only
vegetables", that's what you said
maybe i'm a murderer, but i'm hungry
and they're better off dead.

save a plant, eat a cow,
i want beef, i want it now!
i'm gonna eat it cause it's red!
i'm gonna eat it cause it's dead!
maybe i should eat it raw let the
blood run down my jaw
i'd eat people if it was legal,
i'd eat people if it was legal!

/RBF- say ten

One line in TFA caught my interest:
Michelle Gildernew, the agriculture minister in Stormont, and Michael McGimpsey, who is in charge of health, made a news event out of a joint breakfast at which cholesterol-laden Ulster fries, also known as a heart attack on a plate, and bacon butties were served up to guests with no healthy alternative on offer.

Ulster Fry explained. (new window)

This is like the bacon meme^3.

Uh.. if we're not supposed to eat animals, how come they're made out of meat?

red230: People got all prissy about Palin giving that interview while turkeys were being killed for Thanksgiving. Where do you think turkey dinners come from?

I don't think that most people were bothered by finding out that turkey dinners come from turkeys. My understanding was that people were amused/horrified by the incredible lack of awareness of pardoning one turkey, while a whole bunch of its turkey buddies are being slaughtered 10 feet away.

red230

I happen to agree with the saying that there would be a lot more vegetarians if everyone had to gut and clean their own meat.

You know, most Americans were doing that up until about 100 years ago, and no one was a vegetarian back then. Now there are more vegetarians than ever, when we DON'T see what is happening.

IMHO, it is because we weren't confusing the eating of meat 100 years ago with killing Bambi's mom.

"Some All people may need red meat or oily fish for health reasons but the pressure to consume more an..."

FTFY

Loves me some meat. But I buy free-range and local market poultry and beef when I can. I don't agree with how animals are treated, but that's a separate issue from whether or not I want to consume them.

red230
As a vegetarian, I'd like to speak up and say we're not all a bunch of whiny premadonnas. I believe that people should be free to eat what they want. However, I do think that people should see where the food they eat comes from.

We do know. We just don't care. Get it?

I happen to agree with the saying that there would be a lot more vegetarians if everyone had to gut and clean their own meat.

Most people on the planet still kill their own food. Most markets in the "Third World" sell chickens, pigs, etc. live. Most people who live on farms or work as butchers or in slaughterhouses eat meat. So I call bullshiat.

I say if you aren't willing to kill and clean an animal you shouldn't eat meat. I have no problems lopping a chicken's head-off. The only issue I'd have with a larger animal is logistical. Factory farms suck, and I'd much prefer small independent farms that produce my food, including meat, locally.


/Berkshire pork is awesome
//Bring back more "heirloom" breeds
///Genetic diversity is our friend on the farm too

Jaws_Victim: Meat eaters are big and awesome and have stinky poop.

Actually, I lived with a vegetarian and the bathroom always smelled like a bum's nutsack after she was finished crimping one off. It smelled like she was boiling ass in there.

You can eat anything you want. I'm a big beliver in that. Just don't think you're better than me becuase you don;t eat meat. And for God's sake use some anti-stink spray when you're done blowing that ruffage out your ass.

mfaby: FTA: 'Research shows that life expectancy is higher for vegetarians or occasional meat eaters than it is for those who eat meat on a regular basis.'

Yet vegetarians still die; fancy that.

Eating meat is INSTINCT; NOT eating meat is choice.

To be honest I'd like to point out that it's been documented (no I don't have a citation) that vegetarians have a healthier overall lifestyle than meat eaters (more exercise). This is definately one of the contributing factors for the longer life expectany. I'd also like to point out all of the different hormones that our meat industry is pumping into its product to make it grow faster and taste better. Link (new window).

I do not want to put all those hormones into my body.

Scott Thrust: Jaws_Victim: Meat eaters are big and awesome and have stinky poop.

Actually, I lived with a vegetarian and the bathroom always smelled like a bum's nutsack after she was finished crimping one off. It smelled like she was boiling ass in there.

You can eat anything you want. I'm a big beliver in that. Just don't think you're better than me becuase you don;t eat meat. And for God's sake use some anti-stink spray when you're done blowing that ruffage out your ass.

You cannot cleanse your colon and keep your friends. Tis a certainty of life.

red230: I'd also like to point out all of the different hormones that our meat industry is pumping into its product to make it grow faster and taste better.

Bring it the fark on. The bigger and tastier my meat it, the better.

my bratwurst jalepeno sandwich doesn't want to read the rest of your stupid tofurkey article.

red230: I happen to agree with the saying that there would be a lot more vegetarians if everyone had to gut and clean their own meat.

And there would be a lot less vegetarians if they had to grow all of their food.

Heh, I clicked the link, took a look at the article, and was overwhelmed by the Stench of Smugness ^tm.... had to shut the link and get out of the room until the Stench of Smugness^tm cleared.

/Look! It's a spiral cut honey ham.. out of the way, I want some NOW

red230: I do not want to put all those hormones into my body.

A completely sane and reasonable thing.

Nobody seems more obsessed by diet than our anti-materialistic, otherworldly, New Age spiritual types. But if the material world is merely illusion, an honest guru should be as content with Budweiser and bratwurst as with raw carrot juice, tofu and seaweed slime. - Edward Abbey

phenn
Scott Thrust: Humans need meat to survive. That's a proven fact.

Not so much. They need protein. You might get yours from a steak and I get mine from legumes or fish. We're both happy campers

Um... phenn, to be clear here - fish, whatever you may think about them, are animals and they are made of meat. Meat is the edible flesh (mostly muscle, but marbling with fat impacts texture and, for some, the desirability) of animals. (Although some fleshy pulpy fruits also have a "meat" I think it is clear from context that is not the way it is intended.)

No comment on whether omnivore (pretty much anything), carnivore (meat eater), mostly-vegetarian (non mammalian, as you appear to be) vegetarian (no animals), or vegan (no animal by products) is proper, but lets agree on terms.

red230: As a vegetarian, I'd like to speak up and say we're not all a bunch of whiny premadonnas. I believe that people should be free to eat what they want. However, I do think that people should see where the food they eat comes from. I would like to challenge all meat eaters to visit a slaughterhouse and see what really goes on there. People got all prissy about Palin giving that interview while turkeys were being killed for Thanksgiving. Where do you think turkey dinners come from? I happen to agree with the saying that there would be a lot more vegetarians if everyone had to gut and clean their own meat.

I see exactly where most of my meat comes from, as I was looking it in the eye now a few minutes before.