I wonder if her plane has drink holders.

The fly-in just wouldn't be the same without masses of stumbling drunks saturating the area.

PoopStain: Does a runway count as a public road?

Actually, I suppose the follow up question would be: can you be arrested for driving drunk on private property?


I believe the airport has restrictions on people driving around on their runway. Drunk is probably a bad equation too... as would be the fighting with police.

She's a great stunt pilot. I'm a great stunt cock. We should get together.

Drunk and Pilot coupled with runways is always a bad idea.

/ex-commercial pilot
//always followed 8 hours bottle to throttle.
///sort of cute. Her not me.

PoopStain: Actually, I suppose the follow up question would be: can you be arrested for driving drunk on private property?

Yes.

Control_this: She's a great stunt pilot. I'm a great stunt cock. We should get together.

Is that her? The article says she's 57 years old! GILF?

Wow. 57 years old!

I'm surprised to hear this. She had always impressed me as a class act.

A DUI? Really.

What's the problem?

PoopStain: Does a runway count as a public road?

Actually, I suppose the follow up question would be: can you be arrested for driving drunk on private property?

Let's say your neighbor gets completely smashed and instead of driving out onto the road, they back off of their driveway, drive across your lawn and cause untold damage. Are they at no fault because they are on private property?

Of course, since this occurred in Wisconsin, she was drunk and driving an SUV

Hey, not everybody in Wisconsin drives an SUV.

Pfft. A DUI in Wisconsin is a rite of passage. It doesn't even count on your record.

jrnorton23: Of course, since this occurred in Wisconsin, she was drunk and driving an SUV

Hey, not everybody in Wisconsin drives an SUV.

But the "drunk" tag fits much of the time ... :)

/On Wisconsin!

EX pilot.

The faa frowns on drunken shenanigans. See ya later pilot's license.

I was camping beside that runway at the time, and I slept right through it.

I'd wag my staff at her
if you know what I mean

From http://www.oas.samhsa.gov/2k8/stateDUI/stateDUI.cfm

"States with the highest rates of driving under the influence of alcohol in the past year among adults aged 18 or older were Wisconsin (26.4%), North Dakota (24.9%), Minnesota (23.5%), Nebraska (22.9%), and South Dakota (21.6%)."

/On Wisconsin?
//On Wisconsin!
///Beer in hand.

Looks pretty damn good for 57.

Has anybody made the Flight Simulator reference yet?

I'd hit it like a water landing.

domo-kun007: EX pilot.

The faa frowns on drunken shenanigans. See ya later pilot's license.

Yep. Especially with the high-performance, aerobatic ratings. She can wave bye-bye to her livelihood.

/wing-wag-staff?

x_kansas_x: From http://www.oas.samhsa.gov/2k8/stateDUI/stateDUI.cfm

"States with the highest rates of driving under the influence of alcohol in the past year among adults aged 18 or older were Wisconsin (26.4%), North Dakota (24.9%), Minnesota (23.5%), Nebraska (22.9%), and South Dakota (21.6%)."

/On Wisconsin?
//On Wisconsin!
///Beer in hand.
////Bong in the other.

FTFY

JamesLi: PoopStain: Does a runway count as a public road?

Actually, I suppose the follow up question would be: can you be arrested for driving drunk on private property?

Let's say your neighbor gets completely smashed and instead of driving out onto the road, they back off of their driveway, drive across your lawn and cause untold damage. Are they at no fault because they are on private property?

Let's say the neighbor was completely sober at the time. An accident causing damage is different than merely driving a vehicle. But if the airport complained, the police would respond. And it's party time. You can get a half dozen tickets just for having a burnt-out tail light.

But I have read of people getting DUI on snowmobiles and four-wheelers on private property, in a wheelchair, on a lawnmower, even on horseback. So if "driving" can be redefined to fit certain circumstances, "private property" can be as well.

PoopStain: Does a runway count as a public road?

Actually, I suppose the follow up question would be: can you be arrested for driving drunk on private property?

The police don't generally patrol private property, so you should be safe. Unless the property owner (for example) calls on you, anyway.

studebaker hoch: I'm surprised to hear this. She had always impressed me as a class act.

A DUI? Really.

Classy people drink and drive too.

/or so I've been told.

What she did was a lot more dangerous than it sounds. During the week of Oshkosh that field has the busiest control tower in the world. They even use the taxi-ways as runways during the show week. Just glad I came in on the grass strip that day. She should keep her stunts in the air.

michaeld5: studebaker hoch: I'm surprised to hear this. She had always impressed me as a class act.

A DUI? Really.

Classy people drink and drive too.

/or so I've been told.

they do drink and drive, but drive an SUV on a runway then yell at the shercrozzo: JamesLi: PoopStain: Does a runway count as a public road?

Actually, I suppose the follow up question would be: can you be arrested for driving drunk on private property?

Let's say your neighbor gets completely smashed and instead of driving out onto the road, they back off of their driveway, drive across your lawn and cause untold damage. Are they at no fault because they are on private property?

Let's say the neighbor was completely sober at the time. An accident causing damage is different than merely driving a vehicle. But if the airport complained, the police would respond. And it's party time. You can get a half dozen tickets just for having a burnt-out tail light.

But I have read of people getting DUI on snowmobiles and four-wheelers on private property, in a wheelchair, on a lawnmower, even on horseback. So if "driving" can be redefined to fit certain circumstances, "private property" can be as well.

iff, idk about that.


i think the diff here is that operating a vehicle while drunk is just illegal. having a tail light out on your property is not illegal it just can't be driven on a road.

you don't need registration or insurance or a license to drive your car around your driveway, but once it hits the street, it is illegal.

from what i hear, if you turn your car on in your garage while you are drunk, you can be arrested.

The bigger question is why would she and why did she do this? Something isn't right, I hope she gets the help she needs.

This didn't happen on a street. It happened at an airport, on the damn runway and she resisted arrest at the airport. Did she need tower clearance to put her vehicle on the runway? Was anyone cleared to land/on approach when she pulled her stunt?


\Her new props.

Bye Bye Cirrus endorsement deal.

The FAA will probably use this as an opportunity to make an example of her, bastards as they are.

KW

Out of control boozing and general craziness has been a quiet feature of the airshow circuit for years. I'm surprised someone actually got caught.

ThatsTremendous: Sim

No, but thats why I came in here.

Guess we'll have a new "stunt" class prop plane in the next MS Flight Sim.

/Also thought she was a class act. Hell of a snappy stick

FAR Part 63.12, baby!

"A pilot attending an airshow" is a gross understatement.

Patty Wagstaff is the most famous female aerobatic pilot alive, and the 'airshow' is the largest airshow in the world, EAA AirVenture in Oshkosh.

Strange, I never expected to see her get into trouble like that. I hope she doesn't take after Bob Hoover.

I was there with an airshow act and I didn't hear word one about it, they kept it real quiet during the show.

--M

x_kansas_x:

"States with the highest rates of driving under the influence of alcohol in the past year among adults aged 18 or older were Wisconsin (26.4%), North Dakota (24.9%), Minnesota (23.5%), Nebraska (22.9%), and South Dakota (21.6%)."

/On Wisconsin?
//On Wisconsin!
///Beer in hand.

I love that midwestern "work ethic".

Best airshow pilot ever.

Builds a hell of a plane too. Top it off, a really, really nice guy... which is rare in the airshow business, which is full of arrogant pr1cks.

Gosh, I love living here!

hellbilly: What she did was a lot more dangerous than it sounds. During the week of Oshkosh that field has the busiest control tower in the world.

This happened well after midnight. Since the field closes at dusk during Airventure, the only real danger would have been if she went off the runway and hit one of the 11,000 airplanes parked around it, or the tents underneath the wings of those planes.

mxwjs:
i think the diff here is that operating a vehicle while drunk is just illegal. having a tail light out on your property is not illegal it just can't be driven on a road.

you don't need registration or insurance or a license to drive your car around your driveway, but once it hits the street, it is illegal.

from what i hear, if you turn your car on in your garage while you are drunk, you can be arrested.

Since it came up recently. Driving restriction were limited to "public ways" however public way has been expanded to include pretty much anything that people could travel on. So in your example had you done something that attracted police attention in you driveway you can get a driving without insurance ticket.

I don't know about other states but WA has said having car keys in your possession when drunk is enough for a DUI.

So in her case the airport is a "public way" and she was in possession of car keys.

So in this case the airport is legally a "public way"

ScottMpls: jrnorton23: Of course, since this occurred in Wisconsin, she was drunk and driving an SUV

Hey, not everybody in Wisconsin drives an SUV.

But the "drunk" tag fits much of the time ... :)

/On Wisconsin!

Ah Wisconsin. Greasy guys carrying unconscious girls, comfortable 2 PM beer buzz.

/obscure?
//not on my farks.

Woman who fly upside down have crackup.

/I'm not making that up
//ancient wisdom

The 60 day reporting clock has started. The FAA is unlikely to pursue certificate action on a first offense, but they may want to see results of the state ordered alcohol assessment (or order one of their own).

So all of you proclaiming this the end of Patty's career should probably tone it down a little...

evajyna: Ah Wisconsin. Greasy guys carrying unconscious girls, comfortable 2 PM beer buzz.


Ah, two fine Wisconsin pastimes.

/living the dream
//yes, with a comfortable 2PM buzz
///but that's cool on days that end in 'y'

Wagstaff= greatest name ever.

"So all of you proclaiming this the end of Patty's career should probably tone it down a little"

Not claiming that it will be career ending, however I doubt Cirrus Aircraft will be happy about it.

KW

Anyone who hasn't been to Oshkosh should make the attempt at some point...just to hear the piston-engine warbird flyover.

That's a sound that's fading from the world, won't be many more chances to hear it.

PunGent: Anyone who hasn't been to Oshkosh should make the attempt at some point...just to hear the piston-engine warbird flyover.

That's a sound that's fading from the world, won't be many more chances to hear it.

No kidding. I almost came in my pants, the first time I heard that. Okay, I really did...and I'd do it again.

Lot's of crazy shiat goes on at airshows after-hours. My personal experience has been pretty tame, posing on top of a sea-king helicopter with a flag for a cape, a wrench in one hand and a beer in the other.. just a lot of drinking. Working in the canadian air force, I have heard some fun first hand accounts - among them;

F-18 pilot taxing in front of the beer garden, stops, tech runs up with a beer, he chugs it down and then goes on to park.

The guy on the tractor-trailor with afterburners doing a midnight demo and blowing his tires..

a few people might have some good ones.. albeit incriminating.

I don't think there is one person in WI who doesn't have a friend, family member or just knows of someone who has gotten a DUI. Well unless they have no friends and stay at home 24/7.

/Enjoying a nice beer right now
//#3 of the day before heading to the bar for more
///If you are at EAA check out the beer tent that is set-up on someone's private land right next to the EAA grounds.

That's it, I'm going to Oshkosh this year!