It is outrageous to suggest that Hillary is in any way trying to control who takes her senate seat. We all know the when a senator vacates their seat they no longer have any say in who replaces them.

in all of this "deafening roar" for kennedy's nomination, would it be wrong for me to ask what, exactly, her qualifications for senate are?

thomps: in all of this "deafening roar" for kennedy's nomination, would it be wrong for me to ask what, exactly, her qualifications for senate are?

The same as Hillary's was. She deserves it because of her last name. Some families are special and are appointed as leaders based on their blood line.

sullyman: Some families are special and are appointed as leaders based on their blood line.



/agrees

sullyman: thomps: in all of this "deafening roar" for kennedy's nomination, would it be wrong for me to ask what, exactly, her qualifications for senate are?

The same as Hillary's was. She deserves it because of her last name. Some families are special and are appointed as leaders based on their blood line.

She's a lawyer. Does she need any more qualifications?

7of7: She's a lawyer. Does she need any more qualifications?

i'm a lawyer, but i don't begin to think i'm the most deserving candidate for a senatorial appointment

thomps: i'm a lawyer, but i don't begin to think i'm the most deserving candidate for a senatorial appointment

And according to your profile, you are a Chicogoan... fire off that resume and you are a shoe-in for the new administration! ;)

40yoVirgin: And according to your profile, you are a Chicogoan... fire off that resume and you are a shoe-in for the new administration! ;)

my other fark login is "candidate 5", clearly i chose the wrong in-road.

40yoVirgin: And according to your profile, you are a Chicogoan... fire off that resume and you are a shoe-in for the new administration! ;)

I'm from Chicago, and I'd like to clear up this misconception once and for all.
That bastard didn't even read my proposal for the role of secretary of stapling, let alone give it appropriate consideration.
He says he wants to reach across party lines, but once again the LaRouche party is left to stand alone against the grave injustices of this world.

sullyman: The same as Hillary's was. She deserves it because of her last name. Some families are special and are appointed as leaders based on their blood line.

At least the people of New York got to decide they wanted that, instead of one guy at the top.

As brownsox from dailykos (I know, I know) put it: ...the son of a former State Senator and Secretary of State (Paterson) is picking between the daughter of a former president and the son of a former governor and frequently touted presidential candidate, to succeed the wife of a former president in the U.S. Senate.

What chance do mere mortals have?

I am hoping this is still a trial balloon.

thomps: 7of7: She's a lawyer. Does she need any more qualifications?

i'm a lawyer, but i don't begin to think i'm the most deserving candidate for a senatorial appointment

The only qualifications for Senator are:

"1) each senator must be at least 30 years old, 2) must have been a citizen of the United States for at least the past nine years, and 3) must be (at the time of the election) an inhabitant of the state they seek to represent."

She meets all those to the best of my knowledge.

Kennedy is an attorney, writer, editor and serves on the boards of numerous non-profit organizations.


[edit] Law and politics
Kennedy is a member of the New York and Washington, D.C. bar associations. She is also a member of the board of directors of the Commission on Presidential Debates and the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund.


[edit] Kennedy family legacy
Kennedy and other members of her family created the Profiles in Courage Award in 1989. The award is given to a public official or officials at the federal, state or local level whose actions best demonstrate the qualities of politically courageous leadership in the spirit of John F. Kennedy's book, Profiles in Courage.[6] In addition, Kennedy is currently president of the Kennedy Library Foundation.[5] She is also an adviser to the Harvard Institute of Politics.


[edit] Education
From 2002 through 2004 Kennedy worked as director of the Office of Strategic Partnerships for the the New York City Department of Education. The three-day-a week job paid her a salary of $1 and had the goal of raising private money for the New York City public schools.[7] In her capacity, she helped raise more than $65 million for the city's public schools.[8][5] She currently serves as one of two vice chairs of the board of directors of The Fund for Public Schools, a public-private partnership founded in 2002 to attract private funding for public schools in New York City.[9]


better resume` than many who have been elected to the Senate

NuttierThanEver: In her capacity, she helped raise more than $65 million for the city's public schools.[8][5] She currently serves as one of two vice chairs of the board of directors of The Fund for Public Schools, a public-private partnership founded in 2002 to attract private funding for public schools in New York City

This I learned on CNN early this morning. That's pretty impressive.

Hang On Voltaire: I am hoping this is still a trial balloon.

More like a freight train.

Members of the media, of course, are jumping on board with gagging rational:

But what a fitting coda to this modern fairy tale to have the little princess grow up to be a senator. (new window)

submitter: she who shall not be named

"She who shall not be named" has a certain specific meaning here on Fark, you know...

thomps: what, exactly, her qualifications for senate are?

She can afford to bankroll her own campaign, has name recognition, can afford to bankroll her own campaign, has an ok resume, has money to afford the seat, knows the players to ask for donations from, and can afford to bankroll her own campaign.

/did I mention the money?
//there have been many less qualified Senators over the years

NuttierThanEver:

better resume` than many who have been elected to the Senate

Not one single real job

Are they going to "call off" the faction of NY citizens who expect better representation?

Hang On Voltaire: Not one single real job

This should be good...

What's a real job?

7of7: The only qualifications for Senator are:

"1) each senator must be at least 30 years old, 2) must have been a citizen of the United States for at least the past nine years, and 3) must be (at the time of the election) an inhabitant of the state they seek to represent."

She meets all those to the best of my knowledge.

i certainly hope her argument is not that she meets the bare minimum requirements for the job.

fwiw, i did not ask out of spite or partisanship, i really know nothing about caroline kennedy, and her wiki page is thin in the accomplishments department.

staplermofo: I'm from Chicago, and I'd like to clear up this misconception once and for all.
That bastard didn't even read my proposal for the role of secretary of stapling, let alone give it appropriate consideration.
He says he wants to reach across party lines, but once again the LaRouche party is left to stand alone against the grave injustices of this world.

That is because you didn't join the local Stapler Mechanics Union 146. If you had you would be in D.C. right now looking for a place to live. Instead you chose to be an independent Stapler Contractor, so you will have to wait for the Stapler Wars to make your millions.

sigdiamond2000: Hang On Voltaire: Not one single real job

This should be good...

What's a real job?

well, like bush. he's had tons of real jobs.

FlashHarry: well, like bush. he's had tons of real jobs.

to be fair though, he failed spectacularly at those jobs. that track record probably should have been enough to keep him out of office.

thomps: fwiw, i did not ask out of spite or partisanship, i really know nothing about caroline kennedy, and her wiki page is thin in the accomplishments department.

You'd be the first to not ask it out of spite. She has plenty of accomplishments as NuttierThanEver noted.

7of7: You'd be the first to not ask it out of spite. She has plenty of accomplishments as NuttierThanEver noted.

yeah i don't really see anything stellar in that resume, aside from the position with the DOE, but even that kind of reads like a typical socialite fundraising position.
i'm not saying she wouldn't make a good senator, i think she probably would. i'm just saying that she doesn't have much to hang her hat on from an experience standpoint.

People, people, it is so simple. Ted knows he won't be around much longer, therefore he forced Obama to make Hillary his Sec. State, so he could install Caroline in her Senate seat. This was done to assure that the Frank Sinatra's involvement in JFK's assassination as a revenge killing for the CIA's assassination of Marylin Monroe will never be revealed.

thomps: i'm just saying that she doesn't have much to hang her hat on from an experience standpoint.

Look at the current senators from Utah and the Republican from Nebraska. You don't have to have experience to be elected so I don't see why you would need experience to be appointed. Especially when the person you're appointed to replace also had zero experience.

7of7: and the Republican from Nebraska

chuck hagel? that guy has a resume a mile long (my home district growing up).

i agree that experience isn't necessarily a pre-requisite. but given how retarded the electorate is, wouldn't you want to take this rare opportunity to appoint someone who is eminently qualified rather than someone who is just famous?

7of7: Look at the current senators from Utah and the Republican from Nebraska. You don't have to have experience to be elected so I don't see why you would need experience to be appointed.

Well look at the new senator from Virginia. Former governor and wildly popular with the voters in our state, and a known commodity. Sure, experience at elected office is not a requirement, but it does give voters something to help base their decision on. I believe someone recently said that the choice to fill a senate seat should belong to the people. I know that is not the way the laws read, but he said it anyway. I just hope that any governor facing that choice acts in the best interest of the state voters.

lunchinlewis: I believe someone recently said that the choice to fill a senate seat should belong to the people.

The people elected the person who chooses the senator. I just don't get what all the tizzy is about. Do people just love hating on anyone whose last name is Kennedy?

NuttierThanEver: [edit] Kennedy family legacy
Kennedy and other members of her family created the Profiles in Courage Award in 1989. The award is given to a public official or officials at the federal, state or local level whose actions best demonstrate the qualities of politically courageous leadership in the spirit of John F. Kennedy's book, Profiles in Courage.[6] In addition, Kennedy is currently president of the Kennedy Library Foundation.[5] She is also an adviser to the Harvard Institute of Politics.

Wow. Who would have seen that coming?

7of7: Do people just love hating on anyone whose last name is Kennedy?

There's just a bit of a sour taste about these appointments with the Chicago stuff. It's good to have scrutiny, don't you think? Or would you just blindly accept whatever the governor does?

lunchinlewis: Are they going to "call off" the faction of NY citizens who expect better representation?

You really can't get much better representation than a Kennedy.

Hang On Voltaire: NuttierThanEver:

better resume` than many who have been elected to the Senate

Not one single real job

Sorry if I don't respect "plumbers"

lunchinlewis: It's good to have scrutiny, don't you think? Or would you just blindly accept whatever the governor does?

Scrutiny is fine but questioning her credentials after they've been shown to be greater than those of the person she'd be replacing has no purpose. The people who are doing it are the same people who still claim nobody can prove Obama is an American. They're just doing it because they're partisan assholes trying to stir up trouble where none exists.

New York's celebrity Senate seat

At least, they label it correctly.

sigdiamond2000: Hang On Voltaire: Not one single real job

This should be good...

What's a real job?

You can only get one in Real America.

I had no idea that girl had such clout. She's pretty full of her own shiat isn't she?

Sym_pathetic: Sorry if I don't respect "plumbers"

I respect plumbers just fine. I don't respect liars who claim to be plumbers.

Lets hope this job goes to someone who deseves it. We have enough Kennedy's in Congress right now.

If only we had a House of Lords for American royal families.

The frequent use of "well, we had less qualified people take the job" as justification doesn't exactly fill one with confidence.

7of7: The people who are doing it are the same people who still claim nobody can prove Obama is an American

That's ridiculous. Not everybody questioning her is a wacko nutjob.

And the infighting and purges have begun. It's always fun to watch the intramural bloodletting when one or the other of these leech political factions sweeps to power. Last time it was the neocons against the paleocons against the East Coast bankercons. Now it's the Chicago union mafia thugocrats against the effete Massatwosh*ts bankerlibs against the patchuli antiwar unicorns.

But first, a simple execution.

syberpud: The frequent use of "well, we had less qualified people take the job" as justification doesn't exactly fill one with confidence.

this is my point. you have a rare opportunity here to put someone in the senate who wasn't selected by a popularity contest. caroline kennedy has the political capital and financial resources to run on her own. use this opportunity to select someone who is decidedly qualified that doesn't necessarily have those resources.

Hang On Voltaire: Members of the media, of course, are jumping on board with gagging rational:

But what a fitting coda to this modern fairy tale to have the little princess grow up to be a senator. (new window)

*groan*

I can't stand this crap. Maybe she'd be the best Senator ever, but she sure as shiat hasn't earned it.

I don't really like that we have a seat for political celebrities.

Hillary Clinton has called off the dogs, telling her supporters to stop trashing Caroline Kennedy, sources told the Daily News.

I don't know if Hillary's supporters really care about what Hillary wants.

lunchinlewis: Not everybody questioning her is a wacko nutjob.

Everyone who is still questioning her credentials is.