Now that you know she's a dumbass?

/heckova vetting job there, ace.

Wow. That entire article was chock-full of win. I hope this means McCain is back to his pre-election, actually-mavericky self.

awfulperson: Wow. That entire article was chock-full of win. I hope this means McCain is back to his pre-election, actually-mavericky self.

This. You betcha he is.

awfulperson: pre-election, actually-mavericky self.

Just a reminder...
Repost

USA Today 02/18/2000

FOREIGN POLICY: McCain says he'd support, in some fashion, forces trying to overthrow regimes in 'rogue states' such as Iraq and North Korea. He'd also 'use our primacy in world affairs for humanity's benefit.'

Bush, too, counsels against isolationism but has emphasized more than McCain that the United States should intervene in conflicts when it is in the nation's direct interest to do so.

Sometimes we forget that, while Bush held positions in the 2000 primaries (and up to 2002) that originated from Colin Powell's camp^[1], McCain was already touting the neoconservative inspired model^[1996][1998] of regime change in Iraq.  In fact, the title "McSame" is a little disingenuous, as it forgets the actual struggle within the 43rd administration between the State Department and the neoconservatives, and the period up to the first part of 2002 where Bush followed Powell's advice^{[2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][1 5]}.

McCain, on the other hand, was already aligned with the neoconservatives in 2000^[16], and in 2008, McCain's national security team still features a strong neoconservative presence^[17].  Much as they proved problematic to Reagan^[18], and Bush 43^{[see links above][19]}, (Bush 41 called them crazies in the basement and kept them out^[20]), neoconservative advisers, like Randy Scheunemann is already posing problems for McCain, even before the election^[21]. Slogans like 8 more years and McSame may be catchy, but they don't adequately capture the events of the last 8 years, and they certainly don't fully capture concerns about neoconservatives and McCain.

Party Boy:
Just a reminder...
RepostUSA Today 02/18/2000

FOREIGN POLICY: McCain says he'd support, in some fashion, forces trying to overthrow regimes in 'rogue states' such as Iraq and North Korea. He'd also 'use our primacy in world affairs for humanity's benefit.'

Bush, too, counsels against isolationism but has emphasized more than McCain that the United States should intervene in conflicts when it is in the nation's direct interest to do so.Sometimes we forget that, while Bush held positions in the 2000 primaries (and up to 2002) that originated from Colin Powell's camp[1], McCain was already touting the neoconservative inspired model[1996][1998] of regime change in Iraq.  In fact, the title "McSame" is a little disingenuous, as it forgets the actual struggle within the 43rd administration between the State Department and the neoconservatives, and the period up to the first part of 2002 where Bush followed Powell's advice[2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][1 5].

McCain, on the other hand, was already aligned with the neoconservatives in 2000[16], and in 2008, McCain's national security team still features a strong neoconservative presence[17].  Much as they proved problematic to Reagan[18], and Bush 43[see links above][19], (Bush 41 called them crazies in the basement and kept them out[20]), neoconservative advisers, like Randy Scheunemann is already posing problems for McCain, even before the election[21]. Slogans like 8 more years and McSame may be catchy, but they don't adequately capture the events of the last 8 years, and they certainly don't fully capture concerns about neoconservatives and McCain.


McCain is an extraterrestrial

Party Boy: Now that you know she's a dumbass?

/heckova vetting job there, ace.

I'm not convinced he was totally happy with whatever choice he had to make for running mate. I think she was heavily endorsed by factions within the national party that tried to convince him he needed a far-right anchor.

Palin thread?

It's been a pretty harsh Sunday show roundup for The Real Base.

Colin Powell was too gracious to Palin on Fareed Zakaria's GPS, but still basically left the impression that he thought she was useless on the ticket at best and probably harmful. On top of that, he said Rush Limbaugh was an example of the type of conservatism that appeals to baser instincts and questioned whether the Republican Party could afford to listen to the man. He also shot down the idea that American values are a small town thing and reiterated that most Americans don't live in small towns. I can't imagine any Mavrick watching that without grimacing.

McCain was back to Real Maverick on This Week, trying his best to repair his national profile and, after a divisive campaign, renew his reputation as a bipartisan guy. Apart from the Palin slam, he also had some harsh words about torture and the impressions left by Abu Ghraib.

On Mouthpiece for the RNC with Chris Wallace, they tried their best to tie Obama to the Blago scandal, but it was a weak effort. Basically, fifteen minutes of concerted concern trolling about Rahm Emanuel that amounted to, "Oh no, we don't know what they said. That's so suspicious!" Meanwhile, the actual tape transcripts feature Blago furiously slamming Obama's representatives for not biting on the bribery thing, so I'm not sure how much they can actually tarnish Obama.

I haven't watched Meet the Press yet, but it features every Palinite's top of the Most Hated list... Mittens Romney, consulted as a Republican expert on the economy. Palin can't use Sunday shows as a platform to continue her national profile and perceived relevance because Tickle-Me Elmo would probably deliver more profound insights in a roundtable on the economy, so that can't be heartening for Palin fans either.

I guess what's left is they're able to take comfort in Palin's church being burned down, which helps feed an oppression complex. Of course, they're all blaming "liberals" for hating St. Sarah and religion so much they burned her house of worship.

Lordmontu: McCain is an extraterrestrial

I see what you did there.

/and it was fantastic

Pathetic, McCain. Screw you.

UNC_Samurai: I'm not convinced he was totally happy with whatever choice he had to make for running mate.

Absolutely. However,

McCain Wanted Lieberman, but Chose a Question Mark
"In the end he chose a woman he barely knew. "

He's hoping she'll do some porn.

Thanks for putting country first, jackass

whoever runs in 2012 will get their ass handed to them by President Obama. Obama will have a sucessful first term and will win again in 2012. have a nice day, Republicans. i know i will.

Five people subby? really? Polls show that 65% or Republicans want her to run.. oh wait, that actually sounds about right.

Linux_Yes: whoever runs in 2012 will get their ass handed to them by President Obama. Obama will have a sucessful first term and will win again in 2012. have a nice day, Republicans. i know i will.

If Obama is even moderately successful, I don't see how he doesn't get 400 EVs/

Party Boy: awfulperson: pre-election, actually-mavericky self.

Just a reminder...
RepostUSA Today 02/18/2000

FOREIGN POLICY: McCain says he'd support, in some fashion, forces trying to overthrow regimes in 'rogue states' such as Iraq and North Korea. He'd also 'use our primacy in world affairs for humanity's benefit.'

Bush, too, counsels against isolationism but has emphasized more than McCain that the United States should intervene in conflicts when it is in the nation's direct interest to do so.Sometimes we forget that, while Bush held positions in the 2000 primaries (and up to 2002) that originated from Colin Powell's camp[1], McCain was already touting the neoconservative inspired model[1996][1998] of regime change in Iraq.  In fact, the title "McSame" is a little disingenuous, as it forgets the actual struggle within the 43rd administration between the State Department and the neoconservatives, and the period up to the first part of 2002 where Bush followed Powell's advice[2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][1 5].

McCain, on the other hand, was already aligned with the neoconservatives in 2000[16], and in 2008, McCain's national security team still features a strong neoconservative presence[17].  Much as they proved problematic to Reagan[18], and Bush 43[see links above][19], (Bush 41 called them crazies in the basement and kept them out[20]), neoconservative advisers, like Randy Scheunemann is already posing problems for McCain, even before the election[21]. Slogans like 8 more years and McSame may be catchy, but they don't adequately capture the events of the last 8 years, and they certainly don't fully capture concerns about neoconservatives and McCain.

Citation nee.. oh wait. Nice.

I've got no problem with his selection of Palin or his change of heart now. Her selection insured an Obama win and think of all the comedy we would have missed out on if she had stayed on her front porch eyeballin' Russia. He's just saying thing like this to get back in the limelight a bit. He's as reliably conservative as they come when it comes time to vote.

Palin's great in some areas, but there are better people who can run for the GOP.

I like Palin, and think she did the best she could. If Obama had been subjected to the scrutiny which Palin received, we would be awaiting Hillary's first term.

Then again, considering the picks Obama has made, I think we will see Hillary's first term. Thank goodness he pulled a reverse Alinski so the far left loons are denied their perceived due.

hahawinnipeg: Palin's great in some areas

Such as...

UNC_Samurai: I'm not convinced he was totally happy with whatever choice he had to make for running mate...

For some of us, "he had no choice because people in his party told him he had to..." doesn't exactly make him look more Presidential.

hahawinnipeg: Palin's great in some areas

Three, tops.

DamnYankees: hahawinnipeg: Palin's great in some areas

Such as...

Having kids, getting blessed by witch doctors, hypocrisy, taking 3 minutes to answer a question and never even remotely saying anything.

DamnYankees: hahawinnipeg: Palin's great in some areas

Such as...

Bed

Peter von Nostrand: DamnYankees: hahawinnipeg: Palin's great in some areas

Such as...

Having kids, getting blessed by witch doctors, hypocrisy, taking 3 minutes to answer a question and never even remotely saying anything.

Don't forget standing between Putin and America when Putin rears his head.

Looking back, selecting Palin as VP was like punting in the red zone.

judan: Peter von Nostrand: DamnYankees: hahawinnipeg: Palin's great in some areas

Such as...

Having kids, getting blessed by witch doctors, hypocrisy, taking 3 minutes to answer a question and never even remotely saying anything.

Don't forget standing between Putin and America when Putin rears his head.


And moose killing. We'll need that experience when the moose attack.

Wow, I actually agree with McCain on something.

McCain knows now, as he guessed then, that the correct answer was Olympia Snowe. Couldn't have done worse than he did with Palin, and even if the right-wing walked out of the party, he'd have ended his run in a moral victory.

Hell, with Snowe on the ticket instead of Palin, I'd argue that Sununu, Gordon Smith, and possibly Elizabeth Dole ('Godless' would not have run if she weren't cornered and far behind) would still be Senators next year. Palin has already been such a net loss for the GOP. Hope she runs long in 2012.

hahawinnipeg: I like Palin, and think she did the best she could. If Obama had been subjected to the scrutiny which Palin received, we would be awaiting Hillary's first term.

Yes, because all of those times where Obama's preacher, place of birth, flag pins, or association with Bill Ayers were brought up weren't scrutiny.

hahawinnipeg: Then again, considering the picks Obama has made, I think we will see Hillary's first term. Thank goodness he pulled a reverse Alinski so the far left loons are denied their perceived due.

Given that Hillary is fifth in the order of succession - after the heads of the House and Senate, who Obama doesn't get to pick - and that a hypothetical Hillary campaign after a failed Obama presidency would probably fail, I'm curious as to how you think that's going to happen.

hahawinnipeg: I like Palin, and think she did the best she could. If Obama had been subjected to the scrutiny which Palin received, we would be awaiting Hillary's first term.

Uh, do you REMEMBER the primary? News networks were playing excerpts from Wright's sermon on repeat 24/7. CNN and Fox were pulling hard for Hillary.

UNC_Samurai: Party Boy: Now that you know she's a dumbass?

/heckova vetting job there, ace.

I'm not convinced he was totally happy with whatever choice he had to make for running mate. I think she was heavily endorsed by factions within the national party that tried to convince him he needed a far-right anchor.



This. But then he farked up by being mesmerized by her monster bootay and tina fey glasses -- and the early rise in popularity -- instead of sticking to his guns and his principles, and saying 'fark all y'all' to those who were trying to make his decisions for him.

There's a cool John McCain and an evil John McCain. I wish the cool John McCain was the true primary personality instead of the Candidate 2008/TrophyWifeHunter John McCain.

Lawnchair: McCain knows now, as he guessed then, that the correct answer was Olympia Snowe. Couldn't have done worse than he did with Palin, and even if the right-wing walked out of the party, he'd have ended his run in a moral victory.

Hell, with Snowe on the ticket instead of Palin, I'd argue that Sununu, Gordon Smith, and possibly Elizabeth Dole ('Godless' would not have run if she weren't cornered and far behind) would still be Senators next year. Palin has already been such a net loss for the GOP. Hope she runs long in 2012.


Snowe's as big a RINO as (if not a bigger RINO than) McCain. More importantly, she's pro-abortion. Can't have a pro-abortion candidate on the Republican side.

So Obama went from a nobody in two years and won... Palin has 4 years and people know her.

DamnYankees: hahawinnipeg: Palin's great in some areas

Such as...

Bustline.

tonesskin: awfulperson: Wow. That entire article was chock-full of win. I hope this means McCain is back to his pre-election, actually-mavericky self.

This. You betcha he is.

He's pretty much the same as he always was -- a politician looking to get elected. Obama is no different. I suspect their Presidencies would have looked fairly similar as economic realities will minimize our foreign adventurism for a long time to come and drive the need for seeking broad support on domestic reforms.

godofusa.com: So Obama went from a nobody in two years and won... Palin has 4 years and people know her.

People saw her for 2 months and wanted nothing to do with her. That's not going to change 4 years from now.

godofusa.com: So Obama went from a nobody in two years and won... Palin has 4 years and people know her.

Everybody knows who Ronald McDonald is, maybe he should run.

It's a Zen thing. The only Palin you can vote for is inside yourself. Release your inner Palin and be free.

godofusa.com: So Obama went from a nobody in two years and won... Palin has 4 years and people know her.

Nobody knew Obama until his speech at the 2004 DNC. He won the presidency 4 years later. Nobody knew Palin until the RNC. She would run for an election occurring 4 years later. Same timeline.

However, Obama has a great deal more intelligence and charisma than Palin (and no, being hot for a middle aged mom doesn't count as charisma). So regardless, it's a stupid comparison.

godofusa.com: So Obama went from a nobody in two years and won... Palin has 4 years and people know her.

Yeah, I'm sure as more people see how she only plays to the far right wing of the GOP that she'll definitely be able to pick up the moderate republicans and independents that Obama secured to win the Presidency.

67 Beetle: I suspect their Presidencies would have looked fairly similar as economic realities will minimize our foreign adventurism for a long time to come and drive the need for seeking broad support on domestic reforms.

This is what every cynic says, and its nonsense. If you really think we'd be living in the same country had Gore been elected instead of Bush, you're an idiot, and its the same for McCain and Obama.

McCain = Tool

I love the idea of Palin running. She killed McCain's chances this election and has the potential to nuke the republican party's chances from orbit.

Hell, I would even donate to her primary campaign.

The idea of Tina Fey running is hot. And her winning, even hotter.

biatch needs to go back to Alaska and stay there.

submitter botched that headline.

Support doesn't equal vote. McCain may support other Republicans in future primaries, but he never said anything about not voting for Palin in a general election.

why haven't the republicans kicked this jackoff out of the caucus?

DamnYankees: This is what every cynic says, and its nonsense.

Believing that the president can change the course of the country is like believing that a different hood ornament is going to change the course of a vehicle. The deficit is still going to be trillions, we are still going to have a hyperinflationary depression, we are still going to have troops farking up southwest Asia. You are not going to get free health care.

Nothing important is going to change.