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ecmoRandomNumbers [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 10:30:25 AM  
Fine. I don't think anybody cares anymore. This idiot dauphin will be known as the worst leader in American history.

I'd hate to leave a legacy like his. Bush probably doesn't care, but his descendants are going to be ridiculed. He's going to be reviled for decades.

 
Mordant [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 10:41:23 AM  
Yes, only Obama will suffer from what Bush does now. The "conservatives" won't worry because they don't like outdoor activities like hunting or fishing... the environment is for sissy libs.

 
40yoVirgin [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 10:58:55 AM  
Mordant: The "conservatives" won't worry because they don't like outdoor activities like hunting or fishing...

This could be beneficial... The regulation changes may deter Cheney from hunting, and thus save a few faces in the process.

The sad thing is the faces would belong to people that think the changes are needed and really could use some steel shot dermabrasion .

 
teto85 [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 11:12:02 AM  
37 days to go. Don't worry people, Obama's got staff compiling all of these and other executive orders Bush is excreting out in order to reverse them.

As stated above, his descendants, political and familial, are going to be ridiculed and reviled. The Republican party would be acting in its best interests if it were to help Obama clean up this mess. If they don't want to go off into obscurity. NTTAWWT.

 
Howie Spankowitz [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 11:12:31 AM  
Well, they say once you go black...

Am I taking the headline too literally?

 
I Said [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 11:15:27 AM  
ecmoRandomNumbers: I'd hate to leave a legacy like his. Bush probably doesn't care, but his descendants are going to be ridiculed. He's going to be reviled for decades.

One of the few things that makes me happy about this asshole is that it's been widely reported that he actually does care about his legacy. And that legacy will be pure shiat.

It doesn't undo his failures, but I gotta take what I can get.

 
mamoru [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 11:33:44 AM  
From TFA: Bush can pass the rules because of a loophole in US law allowing him to put last-minute regulations into the Code of Federal Regulations, rules that have the same force as law. He can carry out many of his political aims without needing to force new laws through Congress.

What the F*CK is that happy horsesh*t??? That is about the most unAmerican thing I have heard of. Seriously, how can that even be remotely constitutional?

 
SkinnyHead [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 11:36:54 AM  
Gun control is also weakened by allowing loaded and concealed guns to be carried in national parks.

Good. Glad to see that Bush is acting to protect the people's right to keep and bear arms before the liberals take over.

 
adamgreeney 2008-12-14 11:41:01 AM  
SkinnyHead: Gun control is also weakened by allowing loaded and concealed guns to be carried in national parks.

Good. Glad to see that Bush is acting to protect the people's right to keep and bear arms before the liberals take over.


Where in the Constitution does it say we have the right to carry guns in public? You can't take a gun into a courthouse or any state or federal building, would you like to see that repealed too? Good lord, take a freaking law class. . .

 
Ahhh_Ennui [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 11:46:38 AM  
SkinnyHead: Gun control is also weakened by allowing loaded and concealed guns to be carried in national parks.

Good. Glad to see that Bush is acting to protect the people's right to keep and bear arms before the liberals take over.


Oh dammit, I thought he was trying to arm bears.

 
Ender's [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 11:47:25 AM  
Ok, I don't blame republicans or conservatives for voting this guy in in 2000. However, I DO blame them for his election in 2004 when they knew exactly what they were getting. Way to go you farkin dumbshiats. Not only did you manage to elect the biggest loser in the executive office in modern history, you upped and anty and did it AGAIN!! Words just do not suffice to describe my incredulity.

 
hubiestubert [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 11:49:23 AM  
mamoru: From TFA: Bush can pass the rules because of a loophole in US law allowing him to put last-minute regulations into the Code of Federal Regulations, rules that have the same force as law. He can carry out many of his political aims without needing to force new laws through Congress.

What the F*CK is that happy horsesh*t??? That is about the most unAmerican thing I have heard of. Seriously, how can that even be remotely constitutional?


mamoru: From TFA: Bush can pass the rules because of a loophole in US law allowing him to put last-minute regulations into the Code of Federal Regulations, rules that have the same force as law. He can carry out many of his political aims without needing to force new laws through Congress.

What the F*CK is that happy horsesh*t??? That is about the most unAmerican thing I have heard of. Seriously, how can that even be remotely constitutional?


Oddly enough, this was the argument for some of the oversight and review that can limit this onslaught, as Congress realized that Clinton was leaving office.

 
Ender's [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 11:51:24 AM  
hubiestubert: mamoru: From TFA: Bush can pass the rules because of a loophole in US law allowing him to put last-minute regulations into the Code of Federal Regulations, rules that have the same force as law. He can carry out many of his political aims without needing to force new laws through Congress.

What the F*CK is that happy horsesh*t??? That is about the most unAmerican thing I have heard of. Seriously, how can that even be remotely constitutional?

mamoru: From TFA: Bush can pass the rules because of a loophole in US law allowing him to put last-minute regulations into the Code of Federal Regulations, rules that have the same force as law. He can carry out many of his political aims without needing to force new laws through Congress.

What the F*CK is that happy horsesh*t??? That is about the most unAmerican thing I have heard of. Seriously, how can that even be remotely constitutional?

Oddly enough, this was the argument for some of the oversight and review that can limit this onslaught, as Congress realized that Clinton was leaving office.


Which has been worse under Bush.

hubiestubert: mamoru: From TFA: Bush can pass the rules because of a loophole in US law allowing him to put last-minute regulations into the Code of Federal Regulations, rules that have the same force as law. He can carry out many of his political aims without needing to force new laws through Congress.

What the F*CK is that happy horsesh*t??? That is about the most unAmerican thing I have heard of. Seriously, how can that even be remotely constitutional?

mamoru: From TFA: Bush can pass the rules because of a loophole in US law allowing him to put last-minute regulations into the Code of Federal Regulations, rules that have the same force as law. He can carry out many of his political aims without needing to force new laws through Congress.

What the F*CK is that happy horsesh*t??? That is about the most unAmerican thing I have heard of. Seriously, how can that even be remotely constitutional?

Oddly enough, this was the argument for some of the oversight and review that can limit this onslaught, as Congress realized that Clinton was leaving office.


See above.

 
real shaman [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 11:57:37 AM  
adamgreeney: Where in the Constitution does it say we have the right to carry guns in public?

I am guessing you missed the 2nd Amendment. Technically not in the Constitution.

I also seriously doubt that the outgoing staff will remove all the "O"s from the keyboards.

 
cryinoutloud [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 11:59:56 AM  
Well, I'm SHOCKED. I thought he'd see the error of his ways, and spend the last few months trying to make it easier for the next guy.

and it's not so bad, anyway. We always need more guns and more pollution.

 
hubiestubert [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 12:05:56 PM  
Ender's: hubiestubert: mamoru: From TFA: Bush can pass the rules because of a loophole in US law allowing him to put last-minute regulations into the Code of Federal Regulations, rules that have the same force as law. He can carry out many of his political aims without needing to force new laws through Congress.

What the F*CK is that happy horsesh*t??? That is about the most unAmerican thing I have heard of. Seriously, how can that even be remotely constitutional?

mamoru: From TFA: Bush can pass the rules because of a loophole in US law allowing him to put last-minute regulations into the Code of Federal Regulations, rules that have the same force as law. He can carry out many of his political aims without needing to force new laws through Congress.

What the F*CK is that happy horsesh*t??? That is about the most unAmerican thing I have heard of. Seriously, how can that even be remotely constitutional?

Oddly enough, this was the argument for some of the oversight and review that can limit this onslaught, as Congress realized that Clinton was leaving office.

Which has been worse under Bush.

hubiestubert: mamoru: From TFA: Bush can pass the rules because of a loophole in US law allowing him to put last-minute regulations into the Code of Federal Regulations, rules that have the same force as law. He can carry out many of his political aims without needing to force new laws through Congress.

What the F*CK is that happy horsesh*t??? That is about the most unAmerican thing I have heard of. Seriously, how can that even be remotely constitutional?

mamoru: From TFA: Bush can pass the rules because of a loophole in US law allowing him to put last-minute regulations into the Code of Federal Regulations, rules that have the same force as law. He can carry out many of his political aims without needing to force new laws through Congress.

What the F*CK is that happy horsesh*t??? That is about the most unAmerican thing I have heard of. Seriously, how can that even be remotely constitutional?

Oddly enough, this was the argument for some of the oversight and review that can limit this onslaught, as Congress realized that Clinton was leaving office.

See above.


It's just an observation. Congress has limited GW's ability to enact and KEEP his rules on the books, because of fear of what Clinton would do when he left office. It doesn't mean that he's apparently going to stop trying to poison the waters as he leaves, and given his record number of signing statements over the years, it's going to take years to sort out the mess he's left the White House.

It boils down to the accretion of power to the Executive Branch has seems only to be favored when one's own party is in power there. Otherwise, it's dangerous and Un-American.

We have checks and balances for reasons, and to be honest, we should beware power creep in any of the branches, because you don't hand someone a gun, if you don't know how they'll use it. And in the President's case, the office changes hands periodically, so handing power to one President means handing it over to their successors. You don't want to see that power in the hands of your political rivals, then handing it over to your Favorite Son may not be a bright thing to do.

You can bet if Obama uses signing statements with the abandon that GW did, the Republican minority will scream bloody murder about perverting the intent and scope of legislation. Fine when it's their boy, not so great if anyone else does it.

The transition is going to be interesting to watch a whole crop of pundits and Congresscritters who are suddenly going to become strict Constitutionalists--save where religion and the state are concerned--to dang near anything that President does. Which, considering that President-Elect Obama has a Constitutional law background, should be entertaining.

 
lajimi [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 12:19:02 PM  
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T.M.S. [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 12:30:40 PM  
real shaman: adamgreeney: Where in the Constitution does it say we have the right to carry guns in public?

I am guessing you missed the 2nd Amendment. Technically not in the Constitution.

I also seriously doubt that the outgoing staff will remove all the "O"s from the keyboards.


Please tell me there are not still people who believe that lie.

Please.

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 12:37:17 PM  
Well, he's consistent.

 
Bauer [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 12:43:03 PM  
...and the 23%'ers still cling to his bullshiat.

i used to laugh when i would see a pos car with a bush/cheney bumper sticker on it.

now...it's the scarlet letter of american shame.

they are still out there...driving like complete retards...god love them...they deserve to burn for all time.

so, in closing...it still makes me laugh when i see bush/cheney bumper stickers.

-the schadenfreude will be immense, sad to say.

there is nothing i can do...as they have earned this.

 
adamgreeney 2008-12-14 12:49:25 PM  
real shaman: adamgreeney: Where in the Constitution does it say we have the right to carry guns in public?

I am guessing you missed the 2nd Amendment. Technically not in the Constitution.

I also seriously doubt that the outgoing staff will remove all the "O"s from the keyboards.


Again, point out the passage that allows for carrying a gun IN A PUBLIC PLACE. Go ahead.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 12:50:45 PM  
DamnYankees: Well, he's consistent.

I wonder if Bush will do a midnight pardon binge like Clinton did? Right now it looks like he's just putting down regulatory landmines but he could go full monty and let a bunch of guilty people go free.

I'd find it hilariously funny if on Day One Obama walked into the Oval office and wrote a memo to the effect of 'dear country, repeal everything bush did in the past month. Right. Now. Because i'm President and Bush says the President can do whatever the hell he wants. thanks'.

Then watch the Republicans try and stop Obama from claiming executive priviledge.

 
opiumpoopy 2008-12-14 01:06:54 PM  
Weaver95: I wonder if Bush will do a midnight pardon binge like Clinton did?

No you don't. We all know what the answer will be.

We're all looking forward to being outraged when the list is published. It'll be the perfect last detail on the icing of his presidential mud-pie.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 01:20:25 PM  
opiumpoopy: We're all looking forward to being outraged when the list is published. It'll be the perfect last detail on the icing of his presidential mud-pie.

He might not go on a pardon binge. in fact, it's looking like Bush is spending his time cramming as many regulatory cock blocks as he can into the machinery of government just to screw over Obama. Which is actually more offensive to me than Clinton's last minute pardons.

 
real shaman [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 01:23:25 PM  
adamgreeney: Again, point out the passage that allows for carrying a gun IN A PUBLIC PLACE. Go ahead.

It says I can carry a gun. period. It is not exclusive or inclusive.

I have never heard such a lame argument.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 01:32:44 PM  
real shaman: adamgreeney: Again, point out the passage that allows for carrying a gun IN A PUBLIC PLACE. Go ahead.

It says I can carry a gun. period. It is not exclusive or inclusive.

I have never heard such a lame argument.


There exists a certain class of person who can only see the world in terms of explicitly stated and detailed 'rules'. In their view, there is no such thing as a 'grey area' or 'common sense' exception. If something is not obviously stated and documented then they do not believe that such an action is allowable and they will oppose any such a thing if they see it happen.

The rest of us call this sort of person 'insane' and recommend therapy and medication.

 
adamgreeney 2008-12-14 01:35:13 PM  
real shaman: adamgreeney: Again, point out the passage that allows for carrying a gun IN A PUBLIC PLACE. Go ahead.

It says I can carry a gun. period. It is not exclusive or inclusive.

I have never heard such a lame argument.


So you are in favor of allowing guns to be carried into court rooms, jails, hospitals, Disneyland, state buildings and the like? You may have the right to own a gun, i don't argue that, but you don't have to right to carry it somewhere that prohibits it, which is within their rights. Carrying a weapon is not the same type of right as free speech. There is no reason to be carrying a gun at a national park, and the same laws that apply to federal buildings should apply to federal parks.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 01:39:35 PM  
adamgreeney: There is no reason to be carrying a gun at a national park, and the same laws that apply to federal buildings should apply to federal parks.

Oh, I can think of a few reasons to carry a gun in a public park....

 
opiumpoopy 2008-12-14 01:39:40 PM  
Oh, and I bet Obama's administration will go slow on reversing the coal power-station 'build baby build' legislation.

Electricity black-outs are even less popular than coal mines. Black-outs happen in cities. Coal mines happen in places with few votes, like West Virginia and Montana.

 
adamgreeney 2008-12-14 01:43:17 PM  
Weaver95: real shaman: adamgreeney: Again, point out the passage that allows for carrying a gun IN A PUBLIC PLACE. Go ahead.

It says I can carry a gun. period. It is not exclusive or inclusive.

I have never heard such a lame argument.

There exists a certain class of person who can only see the world in terms of explicitly stated and detailed 'rules'. In their view, there is no such thing as a 'grey area' or 'common sense' exception. If something is not obviously stated and documented then they do not believe that such an action is allowable and they will oppose any such a thing if they see it happen.

The rest of us call this sort of person 'insane' and recommend therapy and medication.


I'm sorry, but what the hell are you talking about? Have i ever in all my interactions with you or anyone ever towed a line in that way at all? I'm one of the few that actually operates in the gray area, hence being screamed at for being a liberal and a conservative on alternating days.

Try reading my above comment. I in no way oppose gun ownership. Hell, i'm a business owner with a concealed weapons permit. I just have no issue with leaving it at home when i go to the court house or to Disneyland. I don't think i have or need the right to carry a gun EVERYWHERE i go. If a place i go prohibits me carrying a gun, i don't do it. No big deal. I don't see a need to carry them into a national park just like i don't see a need to take it to Legoland or any other tourist trap. Is that a bad thing?

 
adamgreeney 2008-12-14 01:44:22 PM  
Weaver95: adamgreeney: There is no reason to be carrying a gun at a national park, and the same laws that apply to federal buildings should apply to federal parks.

Oh, I can think of a few reasons to carry a gun in a public park....


See, that just makes me want to take a very large duffel bag. I'd be more worried about being shot by a DEA agent.

 
real shaman [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 01:49:36 PM  
adamgreeney: So you are in favor of allowing guns to be carried into court rooms, jails, hospitals, Disneyland, state buildings and the like?

Excuse me... where did I ever say that?

Quit trying to put words in my mouth.

You just put on ignore, which is what I do to people so stupid as to not be able to have a sane conversation or debate.

 
real shaman [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 01:51:42 PM  
got put, even....

 
GAT_00 [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 01:51:55 PM  
America is falling to pieces and Bush is quite happy to encourage it. $8 trillion in loans for no collateral is going to give inflation from hell in a year or two, he's doing his best to make sure that companies can pollute so much they will irreparably damage the already fragile environment, yet saving businesses and helping the people that keep this country going is wrong. America is doomed, and Bush is the one who has doomed us. He is the biggest traitor in the history of the country.

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 01:54:54 PM  
Weaver95: I wonder if Bush will do a midnight pardon binge like Clinton did?

Well, at least Clinton didn't pardon his own administration for crimes they committed.

What happens if on the last day in office, Bush pardons everyone - Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Rice, et al. Don't we *have* to then go after Bush for criminal activity?

 
adamgreeney 2008-12-14 01:56:25 PM  
real shaman: adamgreeney: So you are in favor of allowing guns to be carried into court rooms, jails, hospitals, Disneyland, state buildings and the like?

Excuse me... where did I ever say that?

Quit trying to put words in my mouth.

You just put on ignore, which is what I do to people so stupid as to not be able to have a sane conversation or debate.


Right, because

I also seriously doubt that the outgoing staff will remove all the "O"s from the keyboards.

is a sane conversation. You have yet to actually add anything. I asked a question and you failed to answer it. Do you believe that your right to carry a gun trumps a place of business from prohibiting you from bringing it inside that building?

My argument is not hard to follow. It goes like this.

You and I have a right to carry and own a gun. That's a no brainer.

Any store, building, public venue or what have you, has the right to forbid us from entering with that gun.

I see no reason why we would need to carry them in a national park. Is there a reason? I just don't get that part of it.

 
ducTape 2008-12-14 02:02:53 PM  
adamgreeney: I see no reason why we would need to carry them in a national park. Is there a reason? I just don't get that part of it.

Hunting is allowed in many national parks.

 
ducTape 2008-12-14 02:05:40 PM  
My bad. Hunting is allowed in National Preserves, not National Parks.

 
ghare 2008-12-14 02:06:06 PM  
Bush spending his last precious days in office doing his best to screw Obama America

FTFY, subby.

 
TheShavingofOccam123 [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 02:08:10 PM  
I hope the fundies enjoy sticking their children and grand children with the bills George Bush has run up and the bills Obama will have to run up to fix the messes that Bush created.

I hope they realize they were duped by big money. I'm sure they won't but I wish they would.

 
Sprats 2008-12-14 02:08:33 PM  
I don't get why this crap would take years to undo - can't he just sign a bunch of executive orders overturning everything Bush has just done? I mean, yeah, it's a Bushy thing to do, but like...sometimes one has to fight fire with fire? Surely, people will understand...

 
oregoncat 2008-12-14 02:09:11 PM  
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DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2008-12-14 02:09:46 PM  
Sprats: I don't get why this crap would take years to undo - can't he just sign a bunch of executive orders overturning everything Bush has just done? I mean, yeah, it's a Bushy thing to do, but like...sometimes one has to fight fire with fire? Surely, people will understand...

You can't undo a regulation via executive order (though there are people who would argue - this is a live constitutional issue).

 
Farkin'round 2008-12-14 02:10:49 PM  
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Mr. Horse 2008-12-14 02:12:05 PM  
graphics8.nytimes.com

Who needs guns when we have shoes?

Seriously, some Iraqui guy just tried to take out the chimp with a shoe.

President Bush ducked as a man threw his shoes at him during a news conference with Iraq's prime minister, Nuri al-Maliki, in Baghdad.

 
John Buck 41 2008-12-14 02:12:25 PM  
Bauer: ...and the 23%'ers still cling to his bullshiat.

i used to laugh when i would see a pos car with a bush/cheney bumper sticker on it.

now...it's the scarlet letter of american shame.

they are still out there...driving like complete retards...god love them...they deserve to burn for all time.

so, in closing...it still makes me laugh when i see bush/cheney bumper stickers.

-the schadenfreude will be immense, sad to say.

there is nothing i can do...as they have earned this.


Pffft. I see plenty of douchebags driving poorly with Obama bumperstickers, too.

 
The_Terminator 2008-12-14 02:13:21 PM  
• Allow people to carry loaded and concealed weapons in national parks.

Oh noes! How absolutely horrid! What could be worse than expanding legal CCW carry areas!?! Eventually, rapists, murderers, and thieves won't be able to safely commit crimes anywhere!

SAVE US OBAMA!

/stupid pussy Brits

 
krelborne 2008-12-14 02:13:51 PM  
This is one of many greenlit articles about Bush's "midnight" regulation changes. Surprisingly, despite its recent date, this article has old information in it. The "power plants next to parks" rule was abandoned three days ago.

 
a0helsux 2008-12-14 02:14:07 PM  
How is this 'World News' and not 'Opinion'?

 
GhostWing 2008-12-14 02:14:40 PM  
If Obama is able to get any real work done, and not have to spend four years cleaning up after Dubya's mess, the "Sarah Palin/Jeb Bush 2012" ticket won't have a chance.

GWB is only looking out for his party's future.

 
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