Great headline :)

It's going to be another long year for the Bucs.

Nice headline!

Most foreign navies patrolling the Somali coast have been reluctant to detain suspects because of uncertainties over where they would face trial, since Somalia has no effective central government or legal system.

So wait until they open fire, then do so yourself. Send out a couple of Q-Ships (pops to Wiki) trailing their coats. Wait until they start an attack, then open fire with a five-inch gun. A couple of fifty pound shells and I'm fairly sure there won't be any pesky survivors to have to work about. And if there are, try them in international court.

U.S. Vice Adm. Bill Gortney told reporters that it is difficult to identify pirates, and the potential for killing innocent civilians "cannot be overestimated."

If you kill them on the open sea, as they're shooting at you, they aren't innocent civilians. And a 5"/51 caliber shell has gotta be cheaper than a Tomahawk.

/Hell, just have a couple of UAV's armed with Hellfire missles on station. If we feel justified in using them on a few guys in the open in Afghanistan or Iraq, surely we can spare the expense of using them on pirates.

"Who's Winning?"

"The Bears."

Truly these sailors are patriots and giants of men. Let us just hope the stealers face charges.

Which kind of Indians? Dots or Feathers?

schoberp: Nice headline!

If you kill them on the open sea, as they're shooting at you, they aren't innocent civilians. And a 5"/51 caliber shell has gotta be cheaper than a Tomahawk.

/Hell, just have a couple of UAV's armed with Hellfire missles on station. If we feel justified in using them on a few guys in the open in Afghanistan or Iraq, surely we can spare the expense of using them on pirates.

Using the UAVs for flight ops at sea would cost almost as much (if not more, obviously I don't have exact figures but I do know the logistical headache they create from experience) as firing the Tomahawk. As boring as this all sounds, what they are doing is the best option. Isn't the world mad enough at us as it is?

+1 subby. I like the pitch

Blow a few more of these idiots out of the water and watch them scatter. Couple of well placed rounds from an M2 and their little rubber dingy will go bye-bye

Mysore seamen assault

A couple of fifty pound shells and I'm fairly sure there won't be any pesky survivors to have to work about.

In WW2 there was a problem with 15-18 inch shells from battleship main batteries not recognizing lightly-armored destroyers as targets and failing to explode.

Time to send over the new LCS.

Maybe they aren't pirates. They could be honest privateers trying to support their family, while the ships are probably carrying illegal guns, coke and slave girls.

/wait

schattenteufel: Which kind of Indians? Dots or Feathers?


Pull-Start


Push-Start

/VIP Laminate to hell. I has one.

schoberp: So wait until they open fire, then do so yourself. Send out a couple of Q-Ships (pops to Wiki) trailing their coats. Wait until they start an attack, then open fire with a five-inch gun. A couple of fifty pound shells and I'm fairly sure there won't be any pesky survivors to have to work about. And if there are, try them in international court.

U.S. Vice Adm. Bill Gortney told reporters that it is difficult to identify pirates, and the potential for killing innocent civilians "cannot be overestimated."

If you kill them on the open sea, as they're shooting at you, they aren't innocent civilians. And a 5"/51 caliber shell has gotta be cheaper than a Tomahawk.

/Hell, just have a couple of UAV's armed with Hellfire missles on station. If we feel justified in using them on a few guys in the open in Afghanistan or Iraq, surely we can spare the expense of using them on pirates

The rise in fundamentalism Islam is already coupled to a lustful nostalgia in Muslims for the glory days of Islam, when the Barbary pirates and Ottoman empire received countless tribute and took hostages and slaves with impunity from a crippled infidel West.

If the US started wiping the map with these pirates it will be the pirates that become heroes and martyrs of not only the Islamic world but of the UN and EU for our disproportionate and racist use of force against poor oppressed brown people with no other options to support themselves.

beoswulf: schoberp: So wait until they open fire, then do so yourself. Send out a couple of Q-Ships (pops to Wiki) trailing their coats. Wait until they start an attack, then open fire with a five-inch gun. A couple of fifty pound shells and I'm fairly sure there won't be any pesky survivors to have to work about. And if there are, try them in international court.

U.S. Vice Adm. Bill Gortney told reporters that it is difficult to identify pirates, and the potential for killing innocent civilians "cannot be overestimated."

If you kill them on the open sea, as they're shooting at you, they aren't innocent civilians. And a 5"/51 caliber shell has gotta be cheaper than a Tomahawk.

/Hell, just have a couple of UAV's armed with Hellfire missles on station. If we feel justified in using them on a few guys in the open in Afghanistan or Iraq, surely we can spare the expense of using them on pirates

The rise in fundamentalism Islam is already coupled to a lustful nostalgia in Muslims for the glory days of Islam, when the Barbary pirates and Ottoman empire received countless tribute and took hostages and slaves with impunity from a crippled infidel West.

If the US started wiping the map with these pirates it will be the pirates that become heroes and martyrs of not only the Islamic world but of the UN and EU for our disproportionate and racist use of force against poor oppressed brown people with no other options to support themselves.

and?

from the article: "U.S. Vice Adm. Bill Gortney told reporters that it is difficult to identify pirates, and the potential for killing innocent civilians "cannot be overestimated."

u mean the parrot/eyepatch/pegleg schtick is gone?

Truly these sailors are patriots and giants of men. Let us just hope the stealers face charges.chargers. Just hope that them buccaneers decide to packers it in. Other wise the redskins and chiefs will decide to call out the cowboys and we will have world war III and the jets will be flying with the cardinals while the falcons will be attacking the seahawks and ravens , the vikings will be trying to destroy a whole continent of lions,bengals,and bears.

This issue would be so much simpler if Somalia just had oil.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice will present a draft Security Council resolution next week asking the United Nations to authorize "all necessary measures" against piracy from Somalia.

So what're the odds incoming SecState Hillary is going to make these same demands?

I am a somali pirate and i am getting a kick out of these replies.

serously, take them back to their pirate village, put them in the town square and hang all 23 of them. That will teach them.

Interleague play? In December? Little late in the season for that, ain't it?

Nice Subby....+1 for you!

From the article: prisoners and their weapons would be "handed over to appropriate authorities ashore."
They may be better off walking the plank.

schoberp: U.S. Vice Adm. Bill Gortney told reporters that it is difficult to identify pirates, and the potential for killing innocent civilians "cannot be overestimated."

Admiral Gortney was talking about land-based operations (i.e. an invasion) when he made those comments.

I expected to read about more proof of the Second Coming...When the Cleveland Indians win but was surprised.

Well done Subby.

Load a couple Q-Ships with a CWIS, some RGM-84 Harpoons and a Bofors SAK 57 mm Cannon and let them attack. What with all the controversy about where to prosecute these guys... better to take no prisoners.

Gypsies fighting blacks.

With what happened in Mumbai a few weeks ago, the Indians aren't in the mood for any crap. And I'm ok with that.

Way to contribute to global warming, India.

/ jerks

Kid Mojo: Way to contribute to global warming, India.

/ jerks

HA!

Approves.

/and demands more rum

ZAZ: A couple of fifty pound shells and I'm fairly sure there won't be any pesky survivors to have to work about.

In WW2 there was a problem with 15-18 inch shells from battleship main batteries not recognizing lightly-armored destroyers as targets and failing to explode.

So go with laser-fusing. Bounce a laser of the pirate ship to determine the distance and tell the shell to explode after x amount of flight time. Twenty pounds of explosive and thirty of shrapnel vs. pirate dingy still equates out to dead pirates. Air burst would make it more effective.

And in terms of making martyrs and heroes; if the stories don't get published, then there isn't anything to tell stories about. Big ocean, little ship, big shell. They come out, they don't come back.

NL team never play well in interleague games.

FatherDale: With what happened in Mumbai a few weeks ago, the Indians aren't in the mood for any crap. And I'm ok with that.

+1 Sure can't say they're not enthusiastic, they seem to be keeping busy over there.

Thank you don't come again!

beoswulf: The rise in fundamentalism Islam is already coupled to a lustful nostalgia in Muslims for the glory days of Islam, when the Barbary pirates and Ottoman empire received countless tribute and took hostages and slaves with impunity from a crippled infidel West.

If the US started wiping the map with these pirates it will be the pirates that become heroes and martyrs of not only the Islamic world but of the UN and EU for our disproportionate and racist use of force against poor oppressed brown people with no other options to support themselves.

you sir are mistaken. Piracy is actually punished by death in the Qu'ran and the local islamic militias have been fighting with the pirates on shore

NINJAS ARE BETTER...

Has spring training started already?

schattenteufel: Which kind of Indians? Dots or Feathers?

Slurpees.

schattenteufel: Which kind of Indians? Dots or Feathers?

The Gas station kind, not the Casino.

/gas station kind
//welcome to the kwiki mart, how can I help you?

The pirates are doing what they are being financed to do. Cut off their funding and guess what happens. The large shippers are going apoplectic over the collapse of the Baltic Dry index(An index that follows the cost to move large bulk ships) and they need the price to increase so they can afford to meet payments on the new ships they've financed that are being built right now or they have on order. The euro-asia route has collapsed even further than the Euro-America routes so what's a the fastest way to make more money than to force these vessels to spend 20-30 more days at sea going around the Cape of Good Hope in Africa. Also if these same guys are in oil producing countries they want these ships to use more fuel. Trace the flow of money.

cowsspinach: schattenteufel: Which kind of Indians? Dots or Feathers?

The Gas station kind, not the Casino.


Oh good. I like those kind. Better food. Curry is yummy. Buffalo steaks: not so much.

Go Tribe !

TheReij: schoberp: Nice headline!

If you kill them on the open sea, as they're shooting at you, they aren't innocent civilians. And a 5"/51 caliber shell has gotta be cheaper than a Tomahawk.

/Hell, just have a couple of UAV's armed with Hellfire missles on station. If we feel justified in using them on a few guys in the open in Afghanistan or Iraq, surely we can spare the expense of using them on pirates.

Using the UAVs for flight ops at sea would cost almost as much (if not more, obviously I don't have exact figures but I do know the logistical headache they create from experience) as firing the Tomahawk. As boring as this all sounds, what they are doing is the best option. Isn't the world mad enough at us as it is?

And your point is what exactly?

/shhhh
//don't tell anybody

Solution: Make sure the rum is gone.

Oh sure, they'll ask "But WHY is the rum gone?", but the action would remove pirates from the area.

You have to love a nation that invented the Kama Sutra

tlchwi02: beoswulf: The rise in fundamentalism Islam is already coupled to a lustful nostalgia in Muslims for the glory days of Islam, when the Barbary pirates and Ottoman empire received countless tribute and took hostages and slaves with impunity from a crippled infidel West.

If the US started wiping the map with these pirates it will be the pirates that become heroes and martyrs of not only the Islamic world but of the UN and EU for our disproportionate and racist use of force against poor oppressed brown people with no other options to support themselves.

you sir are mistaken. Piracy is actually punished by death in the Qu'ran
The fundamentalists consider themselves at war with the West, so hostage taking and pretty much anything else goes. Muslims introduced the concept of ransom to the barbarian Europeans that usually just killed prisoners.
Oh, and Mohammed was a bandit chief...

and the local islamic militias have been fighting with the pirates on shore

Has more to do with them not getting their cut, same old tribal conflict and some outrage at the hedonistic alcohol and drug fueled successful pirate lifestyle.

Oldiron_79: You have to love a nation that invented the Kama Sutra

And Gulab Jamun. That took balls.