But for the fact Ledger is dead, I would have guessed this to be the sequel to Brokeback Mountain

Great pickup line....

"Excuse me, ladies, while I pack my meat."

I don't get it.

It could have been fudge-packers...This is the season for part time candy store help.

This is why all of my family chips in together and buys a processed steer. We buy from an independent farmer and have a local processor split it up for us. We save a ton of money that way.

Stray Slacker: I don't get it.





Neither do I.

I think it's like that "where's the bar tender" joke

Britney Spear's Speculum: I think it's like that "where's the bar tender" joke

I don't get it.

n*gga, you gay.

Wanted for questioning?

Sometimes I look at the cattle industry and think cloned meat would be better. I just don't know if I could get it down my throat without gagging.

I think the only ones who shouldn't be nervous in this situation are the vegetarians. And in a few months they will be able to laugh at all us meat eaters because beef will be more expensive than caviar.

Nervous ranchers to find some pipe hitting melon farmers to get some pliers and a blow torch and get medieval upon giant.

3steps: I think the only ones who shouldn't be nervous in this situation are the vegetarians. And in a few months they will be able to laugh at all us meat eaters because beef will be more expensive than caviar.

Vegetarian here...couldn't get through the article, so I will have to take your word for it :)

clusterfrak: Sometimes I look at the cattle industry and think cloned meat would be better. I just don't know if I could get it down my throat without gagging.

Do you think you could taste a difference between identical twin cows? Same DNA...

Lafiel: clusterfrak: Sometimes I look at the cattle industry and think cloned meat would be better. I just don't know if I could get it down my throat without gagging.

Do you think you could taste a difference between identical twin cows? Same DNA...

Don't know never been with twins skinny or fat.

As an employee of JBS, I've never even heard of this guy, but if you eat beef, you're eating my product.....


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And if you're a vegetarian, you're already dead inside.

JBS will rule the world soon! And we WILL take National.

clusterfrak: Sometimes I look at the cattle industry and think cloned meat would be better. I just don't know if I could get it down my throat without gagging.

I'd be willing to bet that you already have.

What the man is doing will end up killing millions.

PizzaJedi81: clusterfrak: Sometimes I look at the cattle industry and think cloned meat would be better. I just don't know if I could get it down my throat without gagging.

I'd be willing to bet that you already have.

Yeah but only with chloraseptic.

Lafiel: clusterfrak: Sometimes I look at the cattle industry and think cloned meat would be better. I just don't know if I could get it down my throat without gagging.

Do you think you could taste a difference between identical twin cows? Same DNA...

Actually, they would most likely taste different. Even with identical DNA, lots of other factors affect taste. The identical twins would have to be fed exactly the same way and have exactly the same stress level at slaughter and have no mishaps for either. Then they might taste identical.

mud_shark And if you're a vegetarian, you're already dead inside.

You sir are an idiot. Please leave the building! :)

Too big to fail....

I'm seeing a buyout next year for them

Florida Ed: Too big to fail....

I'm seeing a buyout next year week for them

ftfy

thatguyfred: What the man is doing will end up killing millions.

You have no idea how many animals we kill each and every day, do you?

Here's a clue - 5,000 head of cattle in Colorado alone....and we have 7 other plants in the US (including pork and lamb) and even more plants in South America, not to mention our plants in Australia and Europe.

So yes, we are killing millions - maybe not every single day, but certainly every single year.

And it tastes gooooooood.

Killface08: mud_shark And if you're a vegetarian, you're already dead inside.

You sir are an idiot. Please leave the building! :)

I may be an idiot, but the meat eaters are paying my mortgage, and meat is good, so perhaps you should leave the building - who is paying your way? Vegetarians?

Florida Ed: Too big to fail....

I'm seeing a buyout next year for them

I seriously doubt it - if you'd been following the industry for the past few years, you'd know that the "buyout" came from a Brazilian company over a year ago and they are trying to buy more, but the DOJ is fighting us in court to try to stop us. Our CEO is young, but shrewd and he is confident we will prevail. I believe him even if we do end up making a few concessions. Wanna buy a beef plant in Kansas? I think we can let that one go....Think you can run it better? More power to you. I know you cannot.

All of this comes at a time where Asian markets are being particularly snotty about accepting American beef. Oh, their beef is fine (what little of it they can raise), but our beef has BSE. If we so much as send a single bone chip to them (in a shipment of 20 tons of otherwise acceptable 20-month and under tenderloin, we're de-listed - we are cut off.

How about the next time a Nissan crashes, we start rejecting all auto imports from Japan. That's the moral equivalent here. GM, Ford and Chrysler don't need bailouts - they need OUR gov't to start treating Asian businesses like they do ours.

mud_shark I think you make some decent points, but I'm not sure how that much consolidation, and eventually, vertical integration, is going to help the beef producers. I don't want to be like a contract poultry grower. And I will fight to keep my bargaining power and independence. That is why this JBS issue makes me nervous.
On another note, I realize this is Fark, but could we try to not piss off the people who buy beef? Too many people already see the beef cattle industry as immoral, totally profit driven, and scarily consolidated. Some of us are trying to break that perception down.

If a cloned slab of meat looks, smells, tastes and cooks up just like a slab of meat carved off a live dead cow, what's the diff? I would eat it just the same. And have you ever driven past a feedlot? It is the most disgusting experience I have ever had: three-quarters of a mile of non-stop cow excrement and unwashed bovines.

However, if I were a cattle rancher, being reassured by a meatpacking giant would not render me less nervous.

lizardcowgal: mud_shark I think you make some decent points, but I'm not sure how that much consolidation, and eventually, vertical integration, is going to help the beef producers. I don't want to be like a contract poultry grower. And I will fight to keep my bargaining power and independence. That is why this JBS issue makes me nervous.
On another note, I realize this is Fark, but could we try to not piss off the people who buy beef? Too many people already see the beef cattle industry as immoral, totally profit driven, and scarily consolidated. Some of us are trying to break that perception down.

I'm too self-involved to see how my posts might have pissed off those who do buy beef, but I get your point about some people seeing us as immoral, totally profit driven (not that there's anything wrong with that, IMO) and scarily consolidated.

PETA, ALF, ELF, and HSUS can scream 27 ways to Sunday about how immoral it is to kill cattle to produce steaks and I'll admit it's not a pleasant sight to see cattle herded up to the slaughter and see them knocked and disassembled, but this is just as important to our economy as Detroit's wheels (perhaps more so) and I like a good steak.

As for profit, that's what feeds my paycheck and potentially a bonus, so I see nothing wrong with a little profit. I've seen cost-cutting which left friends out of a job and while I don't like it, I understand it and agree that it is what is best for the company - at least in the short term.

Scarily consolidated? Well, possibly, especially if you're on the outside looking in. Even on the inside it is a little scary, but it's not like we're a monopoly as it is, especially if the DOJ gets their way.

mud_shark: lizardcowgal: mud_shark I think you make some decent points, but I'm not sure how that much consolidation, and eventually, vertical integration, is going to help the beef producers. I don't want to be like a contract poultry grower. And I will fight to keep my bargaining power and independence. That is why this JBS issue makes me nervous.
On another note, I realize this is Fark, but could we try to not piss off the people who buy beef? Too many people already see the beef cattle industry as immoral, totally profit driven, and scarily consolidated. Some of us are trying to break that perception down.

I'm too self-involved to see how my posts might have pissed off those who do buy beef, but I get your point about some people seeing us as immoral, totally profit driven (not that there's anything wrong with that, IMO) and scarily consolidated.

PETA, ALF, ELF, and HSUS can scream 27 ways to Sunday about how immoral it is to kill cattle to produce steaks and I'll admit it's not a pleasant sight to see cattle herded up to the slaughter and see them knocked and disassembled, but this is just as important to our economy as Detroit's wheels (perhaps more so) and I like a good steak.

As for profit, that's what feeds my paycheck and potentially a bonus, so I see nothing wrong with a little profit. I've seen cost-cutting which left friends out of a job and while I don't like it, I understand it and agree that it is what is best for the company - at least in the short term.

Scarily consolidated? Well, possibly, especially if you're on the outside looking in. Even on the inside it is a little scary, but it's not like we're a monopoly as it is, especially if the DOJ gets their way.

I have no problem with turning a profit, and I do have a problem with people who act like farmers and ranchers took a vow of poverty by choosing agriculture as a career. That said, I would like to dispel the myth that farming is all about giant corporations versus the "little guy". And PETA, ALF, HSUS, and all the other wackos can go screw themselves, the slaughter methods we use today are safer and more humane than at any point in history and almost anywhere else in the world. I'm on the ground in production (cow/calf and backgrounding) so you'll have to understand why the consolidation looks scary for me. I don't like the idea of a single or very few major companies controlling the meatpacking industry.

PizzaJedi81 Quote 2008-12-13 06:03:19 PM
Florida Ed: Too big to fail....

I'm seeing abuyout bailout next year for them

ftfe

It's only fair if the ranchers are nervous. The livestock in that state have been nervous for generations.

Yes, Mud_shark, nothing wrong with being "totally profit driven" in an industry that deals in slaughter. No chance of, say, tossing ethics out the window.

At least it didn't read: Fudge-packing giant answers nervous haunches.

So that's what Paul Bunyan's been up to lately.