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(Yahoo) Stupid Pearl Jam to release four different remastered editions of their classic album "Ten". This is not a money grab. We repeat: This is not a money grab   (fe1.story.media.ac4.yahoo.com) divider line 65
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beve [TotalFark] 2008-12-11 10:49:38 AM  
FTFA, it doesn't sound like they each have different remix. So there's no need to buy more than one.

 
filth [TotalFark] 2008-12-11 10:57:54 AM  
Pearl Jam has been pretty conscientious about not ripping off fans. You usually get some good value for your Pearl Jam.

That said, I won't be buying this. I don't think Ten has aged well at all.

 
SushiJoe [TotalFark] 2008-12-11 10:58:49 AM  
who?

 
downstairs [TotalFark] 2008-12-11 10:59:04 AM  
Huge Pearl Jam fan here (at least until they dedicated their every artistic endevor to a campaign against Bush)... am I the only one that thinks ten is a somewhat weak album compared to what came after it?

And, I'll never understand remastering something from 1991. It can't be so poorly mastered and mixed. Something from the 60's or 70's? Sure.

 
meekychuppet 2008-12-11 11:06:24 AM  
Ten sounded lame six months later, and Pearl Jam are the most irritating band on Earth.

 
Koggie [TotalFark] 2008-12-11 11:06:37 AM  
downstairs: am I the only one that thinks ten is a somewhat weak album compared to what came after it?

I think the albums went downhill after Ten so...

 
DslainteC [TotalFark] 2008-12-11 11:13:59 AM  
They want to lure people into buying more and more copies of the same CD. Don't get fooled by this remastered bait.

 
Saborlas [TotalFark] 2008-12-11 11:37:20 AM  
These guys are still around?

 
Kublai Khan [TotalFark] 2008-12-11 11:43:59 AM  
Nice try Pearl Jam, Pavement still wins at the remastering game.

 
jake_lex [TotalFark] 2008-12-11 11:59:15 AM  
Kublai Khan: Nice try Pearl Jam, Pavement still wins at the remastering game.

This. Those special editions of the Pavement albums set the gold standard for "special editions." For example, the one for "Slanted & Enchanted" contains 7 or 8 B-sides from that session, 4 or 5 songs from a John Peel session at the BBC (including their long-lost gem, "Kentucky Cocktail"), a complete EP...and, on top of all that, an entire concert recording.

See, recording industry, stuff like this is how you get people to buy CD's. Not suing grandmas.

/lasix, love, can't be traced

 
Rev.K [TotalFark] 2008-12-11 12:12:55 PM  
Dear Pearl Jam,

Please quit, it's just getting embarrassing now.

Signed,

Everyone

 
Jamespoon [TotalFark] 2008-12-11 12:46:16 PM  
Tell us, how much did you pay in royalties to submit this headline, submitter?

 
dstanley 2008-12-11 01:34:23 PM  
There's a lot of bands that I would love to see do something like this. I'd kill to have a superdeluxe edition of Van Halen's first album, with all the early demos, etc. on it.

 
Philbigtime 2008-12-11 01:54:12 PM  
You guys are serious? Ten sounds dated?!?!? I don't think so. I thought VS. was their best, but Ten is frickin' awesome, you losers!

 
wouldestous 2008-12-11 01:57:02 PM  
It was the summer of 1992, I had just moved to Georgia to attend graduate school. Every bar that summer had Pearl Jam playing. I didnt much care for them in and of themselves. And I didnt hear that record on road trips or whatever so it doesnt have that 'time capsule' appeal to it.

/'Electric' by the Cult, on the other hand, gave us a lot of laughs my freshman year of college

 
HotLonelyTeenageGirl [TotalFark] 2008-12-11 01:58:51 PM  
"Ten" has aged very, very poorly. They were easy on the ears at a time back when rock had been stuck in coked out hair-metal ass for 10 years.

 
H31N0US 2008-12-11 02:06:30 PM  
If I never hear another Pearl Jam or Nirvana tune, I'll be fine with that.

f'ing mope rock.

 
The Glass Dragon 2008-12-11 02:07:22 PM  
VS > Ten

/Vitalogy sucks

 
DecemberNitro 2008-12-11 02:10:43 PM  
Big friggin' deal, Pearl Jam has become the featured band on every rock radio station in the country - turn on any one of them and you're guaranteed to hear either Evenflow, Jeremy or Better Man several times a day.

Mind-numbing repetition has killed whatever initial novelty they once had. RHCP too.

 
00ghost27 2008-12-11 02:17:32 PM  
DecemberNitro: Big friggin' deal, Pearl Jam has become the featured band on every rock radio station in the country - turn on any one of them and you're guaranteed to hear either Evenflow, Jeremy or Better Man several times a day.

Mind-numbing repetition has killed whatever initial novelty they once had. RHCP too.



Dude you're missing the point, its not about what the radio plays its about the music on the albums and the respective bands playing abilities, if the radio dictates what you listen to then...wow

 
barneyfifesbullet 2008-12-11 02:20:28 PM  
Ten was a great record and it's still a great record. It's worn out Led-Zep-IV-style by now, but it's still great.

So great, that Pearl Jam has been trying to live up to it for 15 years. They have failed.

The two records after Ten are pretty good, but after that, meh.

 
busy chillin' 2008-12-11 02:22:39 PM  
Saborlas
These guys are still around?

Nope!

 
xdedd 2008-12-11 02:34:54 PM  
Pearl Jam kicks major ass. Their last album was fantastic and the guys sound farking great in concert.

 
mbangel10 2008-12-11 02:38:33 PM  
I just pre-ordered this box set. It's a lot more than just a remastered CD.

Pic: Link (new window)

Super Deluxe Edition (2-disc set plus DVD, 4 LPs and replica cassette in linen-covered, slip-cased clamshell box):
· Disc 1: original Ten tracklisting digitally remastered (original mix)
· Disc 2: original Ten tracklisting digitally remastered and remixed by Brendan O'Brien, plus six bonus tracks: "Brother," "Just a Girl," "State of Love and Trust," "Breath and a Scream," "2,000 Mile Blues" and "Evil Little Goat"
· DVD of Pearl Jam's previously unreleased 1992 MTV Unplugged performance including never before seen bonus performance of "Oceans" with 5.1 surround sound audio remix
· LP 1: original Ten tracklisting remastered for vinyl
· LP 2: original Ten tracklisting remastered for vinyl and remixed by Brendan O'Brien
· LP 3 & 4: Drop in the Park - Live at Magnuson Park in Seattle on September 20, 1992 (audio mixed by Brendan O'Brien)
· Cassette: replica of original "Momma-Son" Pearl Jam demo cassette featuring "Alive," "Once" and "Footsteps"
· Package also includes an Eddie Vedder-style composition notebook filled with replica personal notes, images and mementos from the collections of Eddie Vedder and Jeff Ament, a vellum envelope with replicated era-specific ephemera from Pearl Jam's early work and a two-sided print commemorating the Drop in the Park concert.
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mbangel10 2008-12-11 02:40:57 PM  
busy chillin': Saborlas
These guys are still around?

Nope!


The correct answer would be: Yep!

 
DecemberNitro 2008-12-11 02:49:29 PM  
00ghost27: Dude you're missing the point, its not about what the radio plays its about the music on the albums and the respective bands playing abilities, if the radio dictates what you listen to then...wow

It doesn't, but don't you agree that overplaying music kills its enjoyability?

It's like the song Amazing Grace, a beautiful song that becomes hard to appreciate now that it's played on every insurance/charity/baby care commercial.

 
Pxtl 2008-12-11 02:49:45 PM  
The only reason 10 sucked was because it was overplayed and because its sound was copied by every single mall-rock Creed-esque band that was around for the last decade or so.

In isolation it's a great album. Imho, it's better than Vs, but Vs doesn't suffer from being played-out and over-imitated.

 
SmokeyMcCrackPipe 2008-12-11 02:58:35 PM  
This is what you get for you're $125! Pretty impressive if you ask me.


Super Deluxe Edition (2-disc set plus DVD, 4 LPs and replica cassette in linen-covered, slip-cased clamshell box):
· Disc 1: original Ten tracklisting digitally remastered (original mix)
· Disc 2: original Ten tracklisting digitally remastered and remixed by Brendan O'Brien, plus six bonus tracks: "Brother," "Just a Girl," "State of Love and Trust," "Breath and a Scream," "2,000 Mile Blues" and "Evil Little Goat"
· DVD of Pearl Jam's previously unreleased 1992 MTV Unplugged performance including never before seen bonus performance of "Oceans" with 5.1 surround sound audio remix
· LP 1: original Ten tracklisting remastered for vinyl
· LP 2: original Ten tracklisting remastered for vinyl and remixed by Brendan O'Brien
· LP 3 & 4: Drop in the Park - Live at Magnuson Park in Seattle on September 20, 1992 (audio mixed by Brendan O'Brien)
· Cassette: replica of original "Momma-Son" Pearl Jam demo cassette featuring "Alive," "Once" and "Footsteps"
· Package also includes an Eddie Vedder-style composition notebook filled with replica personal notes, images and mementos from the collections of Eddie Vedder and Jeff Ament, a vellum envelope with replicated era-specific ephemera from Pearl Jam's early work and a two-sided print commemorating the Drop in the Park concert.

secure.pearljam.com

 
rh75 2008-12-11 03:01:09 PM  
I'm surprised by the Ten hate in here. I still list Release and Garden in my top ten PJ songs ever. For that matter, I'll go out on a limb and list Side Two of the Ten cassette as one of the better Side Two's ever.

 
degreeless 2008-12-11 03:02:15 PM  
I couldn't name one Pearl Jam song that cam out after Vitalogy.

 
NYRBill 2008-12-11 03:06:43 PM  
so now with the remix will you be able to understand him? or will he still be mumbling?

 
Passive Aggressive Larry [TotalFark] 2008-12-11 03:09:49 PM  
I'd much prefer a re-release of their entire catalog on vinyl than all this extra "Ten" shiat. Pearl Jam vinyl is hard to find and usually farking expensive.

 
Pxtl 2008-12-11 03:11:14 PM  
degreeless: I couldn't name one Pearl Jam song that cam out after Vitalogy.

You can't name Do The Evolution and I Got Id? Yeah they put out a lot of wgaaarbly crap later in their careers, but they still had a few hits.

 
Third_Uncle_Eno 2008-12-11 03:16:11 PM  
am i the only one who only likes the first half [the "radio songs"] of "Ten"?
hopefully that doesn't make me a bad PJ fan lol

I LOVE "Vitalogy", "No Code" and "Yield", though...
"Pearl Jam" 2006 is pretty good too...
but Binaural and Riot Act are Meh....

SmokeyMcCrackPipe
WOW........ that'a a whole lotta stuff...
and half of it [from what i gather] is pretty rare...
nice!
is that $125 AMERICAN or $125 CDN? :-P

 
Third_Uncle_Eno 2008-12-11 03:20:14 PM  
Passive Agressive Larry
Pearl Jam vinyl is hard to find and usually farking expensive.

I dunno...
I got my vinyl copy of "Vitalogy" for $14
and i saw a vinyl copy of "ten" for $11
at my fav. record store
and i got Lost Dogs for about $25 for 3 LP's [no hidden track, tho]

 
srhp29 2008-12-11 03:20:14 PM  
I'd much prefer a re-release of their entire catalog on vinyl than all this extra "Ten" shiat. Pearl Jam vinyl is hard to find and usually farking expensive.

From PearlJam.com

The reissue of Ten serves as the launch of a planned two-year catalogue re-release campaign leading up to the band's 20th anniversary in 2011.

Apparently that is the plan...125 bucks at a time for 8 albums? lol...I don't think they will do that. I am guessing they are giving "Ten" a more special treatment.

 
nocode 2008-12-11 03:32:32 PM  
I wish they would just release the Unplugged DVD on it's own. It's about freakin' time they released that.

 
uglyredhonda 2008-12-11 03:38:44 PM  
downstairs: And, I'll never understand remastering something from 1991. It can't be so poorly mastered and mixed. Something from the 60's or 70's? Sure.

Compared to modern rock records, Ten's mastering is weak in the low-end. I remastered it myself and was surprised by how much more I enjoyed it.

Now, remastering stuff from the late 90s (eg, Jimmy Eat World's Clarity and the Foo Fighters' The Colour and the Shape) makes absolutely no sense.

The mix is a different issue. The band didn't get final say in the mix, and felt that Palmer's mix was far too reverb-heavy. The single version of "Jeremy" (the one used for the video) was actually a remix done by O'Brien in 1992. He remixed the entire album, which the band hoped to release in a 10th anniversary package, but the concept got vetoed. A few of those remixes ended up on the greatest hits.

I really, really wanted to like those remixes, but I just couldn't get into them. I think I just heard the original too many times. There's something about all of that reverb that gives it a "spookiness" of some kind - sort of like Alice in Chains' "Would?" (also produced by Rick Parashar).

My only disappointment in all of this is that the Drop in the Park show is only available in vinyl. And I'm also hesitant to buy it sound unheard, given the quality of the 12/31/92 show included in the special edition of the self-titled album. (The show was carried on closed-circuit tv - a soundboard version exists. Yet the disc had a non-soundboard recording that wasn't as good, and the billing for the package left out that detail.)

 
Loud_Mouth_Soup 2008-12-11 04:02:31 PM  
Rev.K: Dear Pearl Jam,

Please quit, it's just getting embarrassing now.

Signed,

Everyone



This.

Oh, and 102.1 The Edge in Toronto can stop playing them every hour now. They aren't 'alternative' or 'modern' anymore.

Plus they suck.

 
Whodat? 2008-12-11 04:06:51 PM  
Pearl Jam sucks.

 
Philbigtime 2008-12-11 04:07:55 PM  
Whodat?: Pearl Jam sucks.


The rest of your argument holds water, but this is where you are demonstrably wrong.

 
lockheed1039 2008-12-11 04:19:29 PM  
Wow.

nothing in this world pisses people off more than music they don't like or normally listen to. I work in a open indoor environment, OK it's a large aircraft hangar, and it doesn't matter what's being played on XM, FM, CD,8-Track; or whether it's Coltran, Cobain, Coldplay, Yanni, Louis Armstrong, Ozzy, Sinatra, Megadeth or Kitty Welles... somebody's gonna be mad as hell.

/but dissin' PJ with the angry words????
//WTF is wrong with you people????
///mad as hell

 
Courtney Cox-Zucker [TotalFark] 2008-12-11 04:27:09 PM  
Anybody know if Pearl Jam ever recorded a studio version of "Chloe Dancer/Crown of Thorns?"

/They're like malto meal, they're good for ya
//They're like soup
///They're, like, nothing bad, let me tell you that much

 
MFL 2008-12-11 04:35:47 PM  
I remember seeing the video "Alive" on Headbangers ball. I went out and bought the alblum Ten the next day at one of those obscure music stores that sold bootlegged tapes and dope in the back room. (It wasn't stocked at the normal music store at the mall yet)

That summer we used to party at girlfriend's of mine basement (we were in highschool) because we could sneak beer in real easy.

I remember playing this this album at on of her parties and everybody got pissed at me. They were like "WTF is this shiat?" It was the worst shiat they'd ever heard. They made me put Dr. Feelgood back in.

6 months later we were down in her basement drinking beer (i think it was around Xmas) with pretty much the same crowd. i got my ass chewed out for putting Dr. Feelgood in. They were all into the whole Pearl jam and nirvana thing.

ahh 1992 what a time...what a time...

 
busy chillin' 2008-12-11 04:57:58 PM  
mbangel10
busy chillin': Saborlas
These guys are still around?

Nope!

The correct answer would be: Yep!



really? No wai!

/copious amounts of sarcasm ooozing from both of my posts

 
Whodat? 2008-12-11 04:59:24 PM  
Philbigtime: Whodat?: Pearl Jam sucks.


The rest of your argument holds water, but this is where you are demonstrably wrong.


Ah, touche.

 
funktilious_j 2008-12-11 05:05:05 PM  
I might get that Deluxe thingy simply for the Drop in the Park on vinyl. I have seen PJ several times, and that show will always rate as the best one. I remember the night before the tickets became available, we slept in the parking lot of the Tower Records in the U-District. Then they announced that tickets were available at Seattle Center and hightailed it down there. Show got re-scheduled once due to lack of security or some such nonsense.

/mmmm, nostalgia....

 
funktilious_j 2008-12-11 05:09:44 PM  
Courtney Cox-Zucker: Anybody know if Pearl Jam ever recorded a studio version of "Chloe Dancer/Crown of Thorns?"

/They're like malto meal, they're good for ya
//They're like soup
///They're, like, nothing bad, let me tell you that much


I know they have played it a few times live, so there may be a version on one of the Live Dogs cds, but if they have done a studio version, it hasn't seen the light of day. I personally would rather hear Andrew Wood sing it. Mother Love Bone was so damn good.

 
Disabled List 2008-12-11 05:11:11 PM  
xdedd: Pearl Jam kicks major ass. Their last album was fantastic and the guys sound farking great in concert.

Came here to say this. The 2006 "Pearl Jam" album is one of the best rock albums of the last 5 years, every bit as good as their early '90s stuff. In fact, I'm a little pissed that it's taken them so long to get a follow-up album out.

And I saw them in concert this summer. Amazing.

 
outatime 2008-12-11 05:11:12 PM  
MFL: ahh 1992 what a time...what a time...

Heh...similar story, 'round about '91 or '92. I'm in high school and a BUNCH of my friends go to see Megadeth in concert. It was the tour behind the "Countdown To Extinction" album, so Megadeth were quasi-radio-friendly and lots of kids who you wouldn't normally figure for Megadeth fans went to the show.

Anyway, they get back to school and they're all talking about the suck-tacular opening act, some nobody group called Stone Temple Pilots. They were apparently booed off the stage before they got into their third song. Nobody could believe such a shiatty band would get the opening slot for Megadeth.

Six, eight months later? Every one of those kids is blasting the first STP album and wearing an STP shirt.

 
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