GODDAMNIT YOU PIECE OF shiat SHUT THE FARK UP!!!!!!


You know what? I love the Sox. Have loved them for my who live. Will start fisticuffs with people denigrating Nomar's name. Sleep in an old Mo Vaughn shirt. Have hated Dan Shauggnessy since before it was cool. Have a Sons of Sam Horn login.

But Curt Motherfarkig Schilling is very VERY hard to root for. Thanks for the bloody sock, and the greatest comeback in baseball history, but I pay you to throw a farking ball, not lecture me in subjects you know NOTHING about. Shut your whore mouth unless I ask you a question about baseball.

PEDRO MARTINEZ WAS A BETTER PITCHER THAN YOU IN 2004, YOU WHINY LITTLE ATTENTION WHORE!

Yes, Curt, we now you have a perfect Gamerscore for Call of Duty 4.

What's troubling about that article is that he writes in a way that suggests that people are really hanging on his every word regarding what he thinks about Iraq. Shut the fark up, Schilling, you arrogant tard.

You mean we actually have terms of victory now?

Cool.

Has anybody figured out what we're winning yet?

/forgot the latest excuses for starting this clusterfark

Shut the fark up!

I couldn't care less what he thinks, but I'll give Schil a pass.

I'd rather listen to an athlete give an invalid opinion on foreign affairs as opposed to "We need to focus, and stick the basics..." for the 4,984,222nd time.

Haven't read the article yet, but there IS a huge drop in war footage on Liveleak. IMO, that is a good indicator that things are calming down.

Yay! We're winning the preemptive invasion to stop WMDs that were never there from falling into the hands of AQ who was never there until we invaded!

That is so farking awesome!

You'd think a guy with that much money would be able to hire a decent writer. That column read like a teenager's diary.

Oh Jesus is this douche the new Joe the Plumber?

douche chill (new window)

kiershar: Haven't read the article yet, but there IS a huge drop in war footage on Liveleak. IMO, that is a good indicator that things are calming down.

I'm not sure what's worse; Curt Schilling's assessment or basing one on LiveLeak.

Since they don't show pr0n on YouTube, does that mean there is none?

By what standards this time? By Bush's standards, we've been winning all along, haven't we?

Well now that we've got that cleared up I suggest we move on to the issue of Obama's nationality.

SeismicJizzer: Oh Jesus is this douche the new Joe the Plumber?

Dude, Joe the Plumber was the new Curt Schilling.

Meanwhile, Fark's Military Experts pronounce the war lost, until Jan. 20th, when it will be miraculously won. Go faaaaaaarahh, whatever.

LessO2: kiershar: Haven't read the article yet, but there IS a huge drop in war footage on Liveleak. IMO, that is a good indicator that things are calming down.

I'm not sure what's worse; Curt Schilling's assessment or basing one on LiveLeak.

Since they don't show pr0n on YouTube, does that mean there is none?



That's my opinion. I'm not asking anything; you can keep your worthless approval.

I am just saying that I see a strong undocumented correlation between violence and unrest and more war footage.

You know what? When we got to our Area of Operations, it was one of the worst parts of Iraq. After 14 months of slugging it out with insurgents, it's now one of the safest. Our mission exceeded all possible expectations.

But you know what? This is what it cost us.

What the fark did we win?

Private First Class Steven J. Walberg



Hometown: Paradise, California, U.S.
Age: 18 years old
Died: April 15, 2007 in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
MOS: Infantry (Gunner)
Unit: Army, 1st Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kansas
Incident: Killed by enemy sniper fire in Baghdad.

Private First Class Aaron M. Genevie


Hometown: Chambersburg, Pennsylvania
Age: 22
Died: April 16, 2007 in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
MOS: Cavalry Scout (Gunner)
Unit: Army, 1st Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kan.
Incident: Killed when his vehicle struck an IED in Baghdad.

Private First Class Christopher M. North



Hometown: Sarasota, Florida
Age: 21
Died: April 21, 2007 in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
Unit: Army, 1st Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kan.
MOS: Cavalry Scout (Driver)
Incident: Killed when his unit came in contact with enemy forces using an IED and small arms fire.

Specialist Robert J. Dixon


Hometown: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Age: 27
Died: May 6, 2007 in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
MOS: Cavalry Scout (Gunner)
Unit: Army, 1st Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kan.
Incident: Killed when an EFP detonated near his vehicle in Baghdad.

Private William C. Johnson


Hometown: Oxford, North Carolina
Age: 22
Died: June 12, 2007 in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
MOS: Cavalry Scout (Driver)
Unit: Army, 1st Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kan.
Incident: Killed by an IED in Baghdad.

Specialist Michael P. Pittman


Hometown: Davenport, Iowa
Age: 34
Died: June 15, 2007 in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
MOS: Cavalry Scout (Driver)
Unit: Army, 1st Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kan.
Incident: Killed by an IED in Baghdad.

Specialist Braden J. Long


Hometown: Sherman, Texas
Age: 19
Died: August 4, 2007 in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
MOS: Cavalry Scout (Gunner)
Unit: Army, 1st Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kan.
Incident: Killed when his Humvee came under grenade attack in Baghdad.

Specialist Rodney J. Johnson


Hometown: Houston, Texas
Age: 20
Died: September 4, 2007 in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
MOS: Cavalry Scout (Dismount)
Unit: Army, 1st Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kan.
Incident: Killed when insurgents attacked his unit with explosives in Baghdad.

Staff Sergeant Courtney Hollinsworth


Hometown: Yonkers, New York
Age: 26
Died: September 9, 2007 in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
MOS: Cavalry Scout (Section Leader / Vehicle Commander)
Unit: Army, 1st Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kan.
Incident: Killed when his Humvee was struck by multiple anti-tank grenades.

WOW!!! THAT'S A RELIEF!! I've been wondering how Iraq has been going for 5 years, but without Chris Shillern's opinion I had no idea. Thanks Kris Shiltlog for clarifying things!

DrillSergeantPoopyPants: Go faaaaaaarahh, whatever.



Indeed!

Sgt Otter: You know what? When we got to our Area of Operations, it was one of the worst parts of Iraq. After 14 months of slugging it out with insurgents, it's now one of the safest. Our mission exceeded all possible expectations.

But you know what? This is what it cost us.

What the fark did we win?

Private First Class Steven J. Walberg



Hometown: Paradise, California, U.S.
Age: 18 years old
Died: April 15, 2007 in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
MOS: Infantry (Gunner)
Unit: Army, 1st Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kansas
Incident: Killed by enemy sniper fire in Baghdad.

Private First Class Aaron M. Genevie


Hometown: Chambersburg, Pennsylvania
Age: 22
Died: April 16, 2007 in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
MOS: Cavalry Scout (Gunner)
Unit: Army, 1st Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kan.
Incident: Killed when his vehicle struck an IED in Baghdad.

Private First Class Christopher M. North



Hometown: Sarasota, Florida
Age: 21
Died: April 21, 2007 in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
Unit: Army, 1st Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kan.
MOS: Cavalry Scout (Driver)
Incident: Killed when his unit came in contact with enemy forces using an IED and small arms fire.

Specialist Robert J. Dixon


Hometown: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Age: 27
Died: May 6, 2007 in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
MOS: Cavalry Scout (Gunner)
Unit: Army, 1st Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kan.
Incident: Killed when an EFP detonated near his vehicle in Baghdad.

Private William C. Johnson


Hometown: Oxford, North Carolina
Age: 22
Died: June 12, 2007 in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
MOS: Cavalry Scout (Driver)
Unit: Army, 1st Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kan.
Incident: Killed by an IED in Baghdad.

Specialist Michael P. Pittman


Hometown: Davenport, Iowa
Age: 34
Died: June 15, 2007 in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
MOS: Cavalry Scout (Driver)
Unit: Army, 1st Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kan.
Incident: Killed by an IED in Baghdad.

Specialist Braden J. Long


Hometown: Sherman, Texas
Age: 19
Died: August 4, 2007 in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
MOS: Cavalry Scout (Gunner)
Unit: Army, 1st Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kan.
Incident: Killed when his Humvee came under grenade attack in Baghdad.

Specialist Rodney J. Johnson


Hometown: Houston, Texas
Age: 20
Died: September 4, 2007 in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
MOS: Cavalry Scout (Dismount)
Unit: Army, 1st Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kan.
Incident: Killed when insurgents attacked his unit with explosives in Baghdad.

Staff Sergeant Courtney Hollinsworth


Hometown: Yonkers, New York
Age: 26
Died: September 9, 2007 in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
MOS: Cavalry Scout (Section Leader / Vehicle Commander)
Unit: Army, 1st Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kan.
Incident: Killed when his Humvee was struck by multiple anti-tank grenades.

The people who own the companies that made your weapons and armor won billions in government contracts. I don't know what you won.

Great. That means we can leave?

sarcastrophe: By what standards this time? By Bush's standards, we've been winning all along, haven't we?

I've always liked this image.



Revisiting the list:

Reasons that failed:
* WMD
* Further War on Terror (Iraq didn't really actively fund terror groups like Hezbollah and Hamas)
* Iraq's links to Al Qaeda
* Iraq was an imminent threat
* To disarm Iraq
* To support the UN

Reasons that are iffy:
* Iraq's UN violations.
* Because of lack of weapons inspectors in Iraq.
* Hussein was a threat to the region (he started wars in the past, but he couldn't start any wars under sanctions)
* For the safety of the world (sort of like the above)


Reasons that succeeded:
* Regime Change
* Saddams evil dictatorship and actions
* Liberate Iraq
* To conclude Gulf War

/Made my best guess on the "iffy" placements.

I'm a Yankees fan. As such, I'm obligated to hate any and all things Red Sox-related. However, I never truly detested a player on the Red Sox until Curt came along. I don't think I've ever heard him say anything that hasn't been douchebaggy.

(I also loathe Youkilis, but only because he's an enormous pussy)

This guy couldn't even get a guest commentary spot on WND. Now how sad is that?

Chairman Obama said we would leave...

//reality check on isle 4, he is just going to be a Bush III

Just remember, Doug Glanville hit two homers in a game off of Schilling cause he was pissed at him over a dispute in Everquest.

Well, I was on the fence, but then he made awesome table and football analogies, so it all makes sense now.

kiershar: Haven't read the article yet, but there IS a huge drop in war footage on Liveleak. IMO, that is a good indicator that things are calming down.

No, that just means that soldiers have recently been banned from LiveLeak, and now can only submit their videos to the military-censored "TroopTube".

winterwhile: Chairman Obama said we would leave...

//reality check on isle 4, he is just going to be a Bush III

YES IT IS JUST LIKE THAT

attackingpencil: I'm a Yankees fan. As such, I'm obligated to hate any and all things Red Sox-related. However, I never truly detested a player on the Red Sox until Curt came along. I don't think I've ever heard him say anything that hasn't been douchebaggy.

(I also loathe Youkilis, but only because he's an enormous pussy)

who happens to swing a bat and field better than about $180 million worth of your team.

;p

toonz: attackingpencil: I'm a Yankees fan. As such, I'm obligated to hate any and all things Red Sox-related. However, I never truly detested a player on the Red Sox until Curt came along. I don't think I've ever heard him say anything that hasn't been douchebaggy.

(I also loathe Youkilis, but only because he's an enormous pussy)

who happens to swing a bat and field better than about $180 million worth of your team.

;p

That doesn't really relate to him being a pussy though. It's like when you call a girl fat and her friends say "oh but she's really nice". That may be true, but it's immaterial to the discussion at hand.

Um, the best analogy for this war has to be that we were raping an ugly chick who was HIV positive. How do you win that?

Whether we are "winning" is really subjective to what you call victory. If your victory is a semi-stable civilian government in Iraq, we've already won. If your victory is an Iraq that resembles a stable Arab nation like Kuwait, then I think we're going to be waiting a while.

Ultimately I see them as inconsequential to the fact that there really isn't an option to staying until the job is done. Even the troop withdrawal in 2010 only calls for the withdrawal of combat forces. We still maintain control of major bases outside of city limits and the entire Green Zone.

However, if you feel the need to point fingers regardless of whether said pointing will accomplish anything, the current administration definitely fits the bill.

attackingpencil: toonz: attackingpencil: I'm a Yankees fan. As such, I'm obligated to hate any and all things Red Sox-related. However, I never truly detested a player on the Red Sox until Curt came along. I don't think I've ever heard him say anything that hasn't been douchebaggy.

(I also loathe Youkilis, but only because he's an enormous pussy)

who happens to swing a bat and field better than about $180 million worth of your team.

;p

That doesn't really relate to him being a pussy though. It's like when you call a girl fat and her friends say "oh but she's really nice". That may be true, but it's immaterial to the discussion at hand.

See toonz, he's a pussy because he doesn't like it when fat rookies throw at his head. Get it now?

/guess I'm a pussy who can't hit.
//attackingpencil is not a pussy, just an ITG.

FTA: "A football game with 2 minutes left, right now we have a 3 pt lead, the next year or two will be spent increasing that to 20 or more points. Would you rather play the last two minutes with a 3 pt or 21 pt lead?"

Maybe I'm crazy, but I think the appropriate action to take would be to work the clock and wind down the game in a very unexciting fashion. Trying to run up the score could lead to a turnover which could give the other team a victory. Conversely, if we do run up the score, people the world over will hate us for it.

Billy

You would think some of you high and mighty liberals might take one minute to say "we are winning the battles? good, that means our guys are safe", instead of mocking the fact that winning = safety for those guys.

No way, they wanted the USA to lose, and now are hoppin mad at the Military for a

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

Billy McGoodGuy: Deadhouseplants: Um, the best analogy for this war has to be that we were raping an ugly chick who was HIV positive. How do you win that?

you start keeping more and more of our guys alive. Try dropping the "I hate this war!" outrage for awhile and give being glad about the soldiers being safer and safer.

You would think some of you high and mighty liberals might take one minute to say "we are winning the battles? good, that means our guys are safe", instead of mocking the fact that winning = safety for those guys.

Same deal with the mighty NDP'ers in Canada that get some sick pleasure in seeing our troops die just to say, I support the troops but I told your soooooo.

As for Iraq, it is showing tremendous signs of success, and it should, because like Egypt and Iran, Iraq has massive amounts of nationalist sentiment and aggrandized history to ward of radical islam. I remember reading about this kid Latif Ahmed who was beaten and almost killed my radical shiites for playing music, and yet last month his band "Dog Faced Corpse (this isnt a joke)" got to play some metal for about 300 people at a hall in Baghdad. The more you hear about civil society and metal the better the country will get. Optimism is better than fatalism, no WMDs who cares now

what_now: Sleep in an old Mo Vaughn shirt.

Selfish bastard. Do you know how many homeless people that could clothe?

That thing is probably bigger than the AIDS quilt.

Billy

sadly, this is exactly true. The fact that more and more soldiers aren't coming home in bags robs them of a chance to shake their fists in "outrage" and crow about how right they were.

sadly, they are also unhappy that Bush had a strategy they can't debunk. Take out the home bases, like Reagan did with a bomb on Kadafi, and you turn them off real fast.

Iraq was another home base taken out, Bush you slacker you still have 2 left.

ahh the politics tab, where Yankee fans and Red Sox fans come together to bash hicks in the flyover states.

Boston and NY may be enemies on the field, but off it our liberal politics bring us together.

/Yankee fan
//Glad they finally settled on a definition of "victory" that was achievable.
///Iraq was always a bad idea.

winterwhile: Chairman Obama said we would leave...

Do you try to be this stupid? Did you watch the presidential debates with the sound off? He called for more troops. He called multiple times for more troops and better equipment for our troops. How the hell can you spew this kind of shiat and accuse the liberals of not caring about our troops' safety? You are human refuse.

First off, I'm not a liberal. Hey, whatever context your simple mind wants to put me in, fine. I opposed the war from the start. You know something else, I don't support the troops. Being forced ideologically to support your military base is the foundation for totalitarian or dictator rule.

You have to pull your head out of your ass, like the rest of the sheep and realize one thing. The military, is just a job. There is nothing noble about it. It's no different from being a teacher, to a window washer, to being the illegal at Taco Bell who makes my Nachos Grande. The only exception is, the illegal Mexican is more efficient at making food than our troops were at fighting this war. But hey, if you want to celebrate that, inefficiency in warmongering, then go right ahead.

But hey, the military protects us. No, two oceans and technology protects us. The military is nothing more than a symbol. A nice mental safeguard to make you feel safe as you work your job, probably better than the military fights this war, and as you shop on the weekends at your local Walmarts. You don't really think pink ribbons cure breast cancer do you?

Deadhouseplants: First off, I'm not a liberal. Hey, whatever context your simple mind wants to put me in, fine. I opposed the war from the start. You know something else, I don't support the troops. Being forced ideologically to support your military base is the foundation for totalitarian or dictator rule.

You have to pull your head out of your ass, like the rest of the sheep and realize one thing. The military, is just a job. There is nothing noble about it. It's no different from being a teacher, to a window washer, to being the illegal at Taco Bell who makes my Nachos Grande. The only exception is, the illegal Mexican is more efficient at making food than our troops were at fighting this war. But hey, if you want to celebrate that, inefficiency in warmongering, then go right ahead.

But hey, the military protects us. No, two oceans and technology protects us. The military is nothing more than a symbol. A nice mental safeguard to make you feel safe as you work your job, probably better than the military fights this war, and as you shop on the weekends at your local Walmarts. You don't really think pink ribbons cure breast cancer do you?

ahhh the pacifist 2008 version. All I heard was I am a coward who would never have the balls to go to war, but don't yell at me because that's totalitarian. There are no laws questioning your patriotism, be anti-war all you want, still a pussy though...

what are they protecting?

Deadhouseplants: being the illegal at Taco Bell who makes my Nachos Grande.

I'll never get over Nachos Grande.