Where does it say he was helping the police subdue the shoplifters (two girls)?

It appears he was nearby when the police were trying to arrest the two girls & his cigarette was knocked from his hand in the ensuing struggle.

Bathia_Mapes: Where does it say he was helping the police subdue the shoplifters (two girls)?

It appears he was nearby when the police were trying to arrest the two girls & his cigarette was knocked from his hand in the ensuing struggle.

Either way, the littering charge seems rather draconian. I have to wonder if there was more to the story, or if they really are that unreasonable about littering.

St_Francis_P: Bathia_Mapes: Where does it say he was helping the police subdue the shoplifters (two girls)?

It appears he was nearby when the police were trying to arrest the two girls & his cigarette was knocked from his hand in the ensuing struggle.

Either way, the littering charge seems rather draconian. I have to wonder if there was more to the story, or if they really are that unreasonable about littering.

I can imagine it, I can't explain it, but give retarded nobodies the slightest power and they turn into madmen.

My father in law got a littering ticket in Chili, New York, USA.
His dog pushed his head out the window to see the police officer.
My FIL's cigarette got knocked out of his hand, he got a ticket.
The police had a DWI stop going and hadn't caught anyone, they went with what they had. They are scumsuckers!

It was incredibly easy for me to find the Offending District, and figure out where on their site to email a "Shame on Your Department" email.

See kids? If I can do it, so can you.

I'm willing to bet his real crime was pissing off the cops.

We, in the U.S., read about Gitmo, you Brits live there!

Last night I put my cigarette out on a bum's forehead and then pissed in his change cup and no one noticed or cared. USA! USA! USA! USA!

Have we managed to figure out yet, as a civilization, that zero-tolerance policies in any realm are guaranteed to produce injustices?

darkhorse23: It was incredibly easy for me to find the Offending District, and figure out where on their site to email a "Shame on Your Department" email.

See kids? If I can do it, so can you.

I usually like to wait for confirmation from a newspaper that isn't owned by the DailyFail and isn't handed out for free on the bus.

He needs to file assault charges against the police that knocked the cig out of his mouth.

What a bunch of douches!

Fear_and_Loathing Gitmo = Fines for littering. Practically the same thing, amazed I hadn't noticed it before. Thanks.

He's lucky he was not in Singapore.

/OFF WITH YOUR HAND!!!!

I don't believe a word of it, or any of you for that matter.

so if the traffic warden drops his/her pen or paper pad does that mean we need to fine them? after all "No excuses will be accepted"

Disturbing the peace? I got thrown out of a window! What's the farkin' charge for getting pushed out of a moving car, huh? Jaywalking?

Wow, that pretty damn stupid.

It's instances like these that make me half-wish the IRA would start bombing shiat again. It makes trivial shiat like dropping a cigarette seem trivial.

Bu, bu, but he was smoking! Shouldn't we fark over smokers as much as possible with unfair taxes and fines?

/not a smoker

Wut.

Article with more detail: Link

Subby was just making up the 'helping' part. Bad subby.

Does the UK hate smokers as much as the US seems to? Do you folks have anything comparable with these (pops) annoying "Truth" ads we have here?

Clearly the old man was a fault. He should have had better control of his smoke so it wouldn't have happened. I applaude the council warden for his bravery to stand up and preserve the litter free streets.

/Not really. Council Warden is a douche.

How is it I knew it was in the UK before I clicked the link?

Britian's the new Florida.

onyxia: How is it I knew it was in the UK before I clicked the link?



You saw this?

onyxia: How is it I knew it was in the UK before I clicked the link?

Heh. That's exactly what I was thinking. Shame things have gotten so police-state-ish there. Really, it's not much better in a lot of the rest of the so-called "free world" at this point either. :/

I am thinking of a zero tolerance policy for anything that has "zero tolerance" in its name. Have a zero tolerance chat with mr. nine millimeter here, farkface.

Are people who are able to become cops really this goddamn stupid? Whoever came up with the idea for the current zero tolerance idiocy that's infecting everything from schools to law enforcement should be shot. Or maybe something slower than being shot.

While I disagree with the charge in this instance, I would love to see more of your farkers cited for that.

I got a nice little burn hole in the back seat of my convertible when someone tossed a butt out the window while I was driving behind them.

It's also really disgusting to pull up to the intersection at a highway exit and look out and see all the butts tossed out the window there. Don't you have ashtrays? Can't you empty them in a trash can?

Here in PA, we now have a smoking ban in the restaurants/bars, which I am opposed to. I think it should be up to the individual bar owners whether they want to allow smoking in their establishments.

So yes, I'm a non-smoker, but no, I'm not opposed to you doing it. Just be courteous, please, and clean up after yourselves.

Slaxl: St_Francis_P: Bathia_Mapes: Where does it say he was helping the police subdue the shoplifters (two girls)?

It appears he was nearby when the police were trying to arrest the two girls & his cigarette was knocked from his hand in the ensuing struggle.

Either way, the littering charge seems rather draconian. I have to wonder if there was more to the story, or if they really are that unreasonable about littering.

I can imagine it, I can't explain it, but give retarded nobodies the slightest power and they turn into madmen.

Obama is going to turn into a madman you say?

Boo Hoo, I can't smoke while pumping gas anymore

Boo Hoo, I can't smoke in a movie theater anymore

Boo Hoo, I can't smoke on the plane anymore

Boo Hoo, I can't smoke inside government buildings anymore

Boo Hoo, I can't smoke in restaurants anymore

Boo Hoo, I can't smoke near the front door anymore

Boo Hoo, taxes mean cigarettes aren't cheap anymore

Boo Hoo, I got fined for dropping a Butt on the street, beach, or sidewalk

Are you dumbass smokers getting the message yet?

I'm about to piss in my back yard prior to soaking in my hot tub. No tobacco inolved.

My friends from grad school who lived in developing countries just expect grasping bullying hypocrite behavior from anyone with a uniform and badge. They are mystified by "support the badge" talk among us Americans.

Here in the States, we can be neatly divided into those who support cops and those who have had the misfortune of meeting one.

At least Vic Mackey was competent.

Some day a braver person than I will do a study of felonies committed (not just reported) per capita for cops vs. the population as a whole. I'm guessing it's about 20:1.

ultraholland: onyxia: How is it I knew it was in the UK before I clicked the link?



You saw this?

The pure Nazi in the title made it seem just out of Britain?

Boo Hoo, I can't get the message

Are you dumbass smokers getting the message yet?

What? That intolerant farkwads want to restrict basic freedoms and personal choice?

/enjoy your troll-snack

johnsmith99: Boo Hoo, I can't smoke while pumping gas anymore

Boo Hoo, I can't smoke in a movie theater anymore

Boo Hoo, I can't smoke on the plane anymore

Boo Hoo, I can't smoke inside government buildings anymore

Boo Hoo, I can't smoke in restaurants anymore

Boo Hoo, I can't smoke near the front door anymore

Boo Hoo, taxes mean cigarettes aren't cheap anymore

Boo Hoo, I got fined for dropping a Butt on the street, beach, or sidewalk

Are you dumbass smokers getting the message yet?

You are about as dumb as they get. Your argument is baseless and cowardly.

Looks like that area is North Kent. If you feel like writing a letter/calling them regarding this stupidity, try:

Margate Police Station/Odell House (new window)
Fort Hill, Margate CT9 1HL
8am-8pm Monday-Saturday, 10am-6pm Sundays
+44 1843 231055

johnsmith99

Even so... This is how smokers see the world:


/hotlinked

Remember, government is the answer. Compliance is patriotic.

Naman:
Heh. That's exactly what I was thinking. Shame things have gotten so police-state-ish there. Really, it's not much better in a lot of the rest of the so-called "free world" at this point either. :/

So "posh" is the new abbreviation for "police-stateish"?

johnsmith99: Boo Hoo, I got fined for dropping a Butt on the street, beach, or sidewalk

I take it you didn't read the article. The same assholes who issued the fine were the ones that knocked the cigarette out of the old man's hands. He didn't drop it. They should issue the fine to the police who brutalized the guy.

johnsmith99: Boo Hoo, I can't smoke while pumping gas anymore

Boo Hoo, I can't smoke in a movie theater anymore

Boo Hoo, I can't smoke on the plane anymore

Boo Hoo, I can't smoke inside government buildings anymore

Boo Hoo, I can't smoke in restaurants anymore

Boo Hoo, I can't smoke near the front door anymore

Boo Hoo, taxes mean cigarettes aren't cheap anymore

Boo Hoo, I got fined for dropping a Butt on the street, beach, or sidewalk

Are you dumbass smokers getting the message yet?

I truly hope my 2nd hand smoke kills your children. Prick!

<sup>Virindi: Looks like that area is North Kent. If you feel like writing a letter/calling them regarding this stupidity, try:

Margate Police Station/Odell House (new window)
Fort Hill, Margate CT9 1HL
8am-8pm Monday-Saturday, 10am-6pm Sundays
+44 1843 231055</sup>

I forgot the enqu­ir­iestnek­pnnpolic­euk email address.
And the "main" Kent location seems to be:

Kent Police Headquarters,
Sutton Road, Maidstone, Kent ME15 9BZ
United Kingdom

Fine away nanny state -

Until smokers pay an extra premium for their health insurance, like they do for life insurance, we ALL pick up the costs of their addiction.

You can do whatever the hell you want, as long as doesn't affect the rest of us. But when you leave your butts scattered around my city, get your stench in my airspace, and make me pick up part of the tab for cleaning up your heart attack and cancer diagnoses, I get the right to curb your little edgy stick-it-to-the-man habit when it affects the rest of us.

By all means, keep making these fat white guys (non-smokers) rich.

cakster: johnsmith99: Boo Hoo, I can't smoke while pumping gas anymore

Boo Hoo, I can't smoke in a movie theater anymore

Boo Hoo, I can't smoke on the plane anymore

Boo Hoo, I can't smoke inside government buildings anymore

Boo Hoo, I can't smoke in restaurants anymore

Boo Hoo, I can't smoke near the front door anymore

Boo Hoo, taxes mean cigarettes aren't cheap anymore

Boo Hoo, I got fined for dropping a Butt on the street, beach, or sidewalk

Are you dumbass smokers getting the message yet?

I truly hope my 2nd hand smoke kills your children. Prick!

THIS.

Procedural Texture: Have we managed to figure out yet, as a civilization, that zero-tolerance policies in any realm are guaranteed to produce injustices?

Strict liability has to be the worst standard of liability.