How the hell is it legal to sit on the state board of education when you yourself home-school your kids. WTF?

Oh, this woman also has a law degree from Regent University - Pat Robertson's Law School. Same place where Monica Goodline, the #3 person in the United States Department of Justice, got her law degree.

What. The. fark.

DamnYankees: Oh, this woman also has a law degree from Regent University - Pat Robertson's Law School. Same place where Monica Goodline, the #3 person in the United States Department of Justice, got her law degree.

What. The. fark.

are you serious? well, that's it...Shiner brewery or not, let's just give Texas back to Mexico.

pxlboy: are you serious? well, that's it...Shiner brewery or not, let's just give Texas back to Mexico.

Serious as serious cat, brother.

DamnYankees: pxlboy: are you serious? well, that's it...Shiner brewery or not, let's just give Texas back to Mexico.

Serious as serious cat, brother.

that, or nuke it from orbit.

This is why we need a TEXAS tag.

1-2-3-4 I declare a flame war!

God, I hope that Obama does come in a flush the toilet on these religous freakjobs that Bush has installed. The academic credentials of these people should be reexamined. I mean, come on Pat Robertson U.? Thats a fine diverse institutiion. Sorry for my bad spelling. HUng over rover.//slashies

Beers, steers, and queers.

State Board of Education member Cynthia Dunbar, R-Richmond


State Board of Education is like the State Supreme Court bench - the people elected to those positions should be required to support no party affiliation. It's bad enough that a crucial service such as education is susceptible to non-partisan greed, party politics should be removed from public education oversight as "unconstitutional and tyrannical"

Every time I think about leaving the NYC area for a place that is cheaper I read stories about batshiat crazy people like this in positions of power & think I will stay here so my children can beat the crap out of their children economically in 20 years.

There are some TEXANS who I was just born to mess with.

And the dumbing down of America continues. Thanks religion!

What would we do without Real America^TM to bring us back into line from our heathenous path?

damageddude: Every time I think about leaving the NYC area for a place that is cheaper I read stories about batshiat crazy people like this in positions of power & think I will stay here so my children can beat the crap out of their children economically in 20 years.

Yeah, what about Mr. "I am the King of NYC" Bloomberg, who feels that he should never have to leave office?

Crazy is everywhere, dude. I left where you are because of it.

Those poor oppressed Christians. *frowny face*

Since she is a duly elected school board member, how does this extremist activist group plan on having her removed from her elected office?

Jesus Christ, lady...you need to eat a box of Ex-Lax and read the Constitution while you're waiting for that brick to work its way out of your colon.

Embarrassed for my fine state. This biatch needs to be gone already.

SkinnyHead: Since she is a duly elected school board member, how does this extremist activist group plan on having her removed from her elected office?

They'll invent a dubious challenge to her citizenship based on a complete misunderstanding of how state issued birth certifications work.

t3knomanser: They'll invent a dubious challenge to her citizenship based on a complete misunderstanding of how state issued birth certifications work.

Well then she should put those charges to rest by releasing a copy of her original birth certificate, you know, the one signed by the doctor.

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SkinnyHead: Well then she should put those charges to rest by releasing a copy of her original birth certificate, you know, the one signed by the doctor.

As someone who has recently gotten a fresh copy of my birth certificate, I can tell you: in some states such things don't exist. Hawaii is one of those states. I find it hilarious that the only certificate I can get from NYS you would consider invalid.

t3knomanser: As someone who has recently gotten a fresh copy of my birth certificate, I can tell you: in some states such things don't exist. Hawaii is one of those states. I find it hilarious that the only certificate I can get from NYS you would consider invalid.

Dude. Don't turn this thread into a SH Obama-bash.

SkinnyHead: Since she is a duly elected school board member, how does this extremist activist group plan on having her removed from her elected office?

Ummm. By tactics exactly like this.

1) Raise awareness of cuckoo wing-nut
2) Raise money for foundation
3) Donate money to opposing candidate come election time
4) Help favored candidate win next election.

You seem to think that just because something/someone is voted on and wins it is automatically right, unquestionable, and irrevocable, as if the people cannot ever pass unconstitutional laws or elect idiots.

/extremest: really, why don't you just call them militant if you're gonna go down that road?

liberalish: SkinnyHead: Since she is a duly elected school board member, how does this extremist activist group plan on having her removed from her elected office?

Ummm. By tactics exactly like this.

1) Raise awareness of cuckoo wing-nut
2) Raise money for foundation
3) Donate money to opposing candidate come election time
4) Help favored candidate win next election.

What are you, some kinda pinko Commie "community organizer" or somethin?

DamnYankees: How the hell is it legal to sit on the state board of education when you yourself home-school your kids. WTF?

It's an acknowledged strategy, I'm surprised it's the first people are hearing of it.

The idea is to use freedom of religion/tolerance etc to get on various boards, then turn around and enshrine your own view as the one and only, because of course you never promised to be tolerant, and what you are doing is good for the country.

The degrees from those religious schools are absolutely also part of the plan.

SkinnyHead: Since she is a duly elected school board member, how does this extremist activist group plan on having her removed from her elected office?

Run an opposing candidate while making plain the strategy, I presume.

AUSTIN -- State Board of Education member Cynthia Dunbar isn't backing down from her claim that Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama is plotting with terrorists to attack the U.S.

The Texas Freedom Network, a watchdog group that monitors the board, released a public statement Monday asking Dunbar to retract the statement.

"I don't have anything in there that would be retractable," said Dunbar, R-Richmond. "Those are my personal opinions and I don't think the language is questionable."

The full story is here: Link (new window)

I thought this would be the same nut from Houston that thinks Obama is Muslim. Sadly, I was wrong.

In her book, Dunbar writes that she believes public schools are unconstitutional because they undermine the scriptural authority of families to direct their children's education. Her own children have been privately educated and home-schooled.

So... she just wants to tell other people how to raise and educate their kids. Doesn't THAT violate the very same scriptural authority?

Peter von Nostrand: I thought this would be the same nut from Houston that thinks Obama is Muslim. Sadly, I was wrong.

You're going to have to be more specific. There are quite a few nuts in Houston who think that Obama is Muslim.

Stupid assholes... Seriously. I don't even know what else to say to this.

6 of the Texas BoE members are Young Earthers. There are I believe, 5 people on the BoE who were there for the Creationist arguments over science standards back in the 80's and are straight up against their idiocy - and there is one undecided Catholic.

Been following their science standards arguments pretty closely lately.

ninjakirby: 6 of the Texas BoE members are Young Earthers. There are I believe, 5 people on the BoE who were there for the Creationist arguments over science standards back in the 80's and are straight up against their idiocy - and there is one undecided Catholic.

Been following their science standards arguments pretty closely lately.

Any chance you listen to Skeptic's Guide?

Well, now I can see a good reason to home school. How else are kids going to learn about the Constitution and science?

Kome: So... she just wants to tell other people how to raise and educate their kids. Doesn't THAT violate the very same scriptural authority?

The idea (usually, not sure about her specifically) is that if there ARE no public schools, then parents will have no CHOICE other than to homeschool or send their kids to private schools - the vast majority of which will be religious and church-sponsored.

So yes, they're forcing people's hands, but they're doing it for their own GOOD, in the long run. So it's okay.

Supposedly once the evil government schools are gone, community membership church schools will spring up for those unfortunate cases in broken families that can't homeschool, but the normative case will be all families educating their own children at home.

Or so goes the rhetoric, anyway.

One of the weird things about all this though is you'll find a lot of the same sites rhapsodizing about the wonders of McGuffey readers and the life of old timey (public!!) one room schoolhouses. Of course back then they had the Bible and prayer in school no problem so it makes sense, but where they talk about how all the kids were getting a good foundation and learning real American culture and all of it, they're acknowledging that role of schools (which to be fair they always have). The fight is over what should be the norm taught, I suppose.

But truly, if all people just educate their kids at home, some commonality will be lost - it can be debated if that would be a good thing or not, but with all the anxiety about immigrant parents on a lot of the sites, it makes me wonder if they've thought about all those people homeschooling (and possibly not in English either).

Secular Fundamentalists have been ruining public education. Our students deserve better. We need more school board members like Cynthia Dunbar.

DamnYankees: Any chance you listen to Skeptic's Guide?

Yeah, as well as Panda's Thumbs first person writeup, and visiting www.texscience.org for the direct info.

So goes Texas, so goes the Textbooks.

Bevets: Secular Fundamentalists have been ruining public education. Our students deserve better. We need more school board members like Cynthia Dunbar.

Wow - no quotes. I'm impressed.

Bevets: Secular Fundamentalists have been ruining public education.

Explain.

registration only link. NOthing to see here.

DamnYankees: AUSTIN -- State Board of Education member Cynthia Dunbar isn't backing down from her claim that Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama is plotting with terrorists to attack the U.S.

The Texas Freedom Network, a watchdog group that monitors the board, released a public statement Monday asking Dunbar to retract the statement.

"I don't have anything in there that would be retractable," said Dunbar, R-Richmond. "Those are my personal opinions and I don't think the language is questionable."

The full story is here: Link (new window)

Whoa...I remember that story, but didn't make the connection. She's a multi-tasking loony!

Bevets: Secular Fundamentalists have been ruining public education. Our students deserve better. We need more school board members like Cynthia Dunbar.

Who said that first? You're usually really good about attributing that which you regurgitate.

MrLint: registration only link. NOthing to see here.

Uh.. not for me.

An Austin watchdog group has called for the removal of State Board of Education member Cynthia Dunbar, R-Richmond, from the board's committee that governs what is taught in public schools and which textbooks are adopted.

The Texas Freedom Network, a group that opposes religious influence on public education, is reacting to Dunbar's newly published book, One Nation Under God, which refers to public education as "a subtly deceptive tool of perversion" and calls the establishment of public schools unconstitutional and "tyrannical."

The book was published in paperback by HigherLife Development Services Inc. of Florida. It lists for $14.95 on Amazon.com.

Dunbar has served as the state board's District 10 representative since 2006. Her district covers 16 counties in Southeast Texas, including half of Travis County. She is a member of the board's instruction committee, which oversees curriculum and graduation requirements, student assessment programs, library standards, and the selection of textbooks.

Dunbar is aligned with nine other socially conservative board members on the 15-member board.

In her book, Dunbar writes that she believes public schools are unconstitutional because they undermine the scriptural authority of families to direct their children's education. Her own children have been privately educated and home-schooled.

Reached Friday, Dunbar said her book was written for Christian parents who are looking for educational options compatible with their beliefs. The phrase "deceptive tool of perversion" is explained further and in context in the book, she said.

"I also go on at the end of the chapter and say that I do not believe that it would be responsible to dismantle a system that educates more than 80 percent of the children in this country," Dunbar said. "We need to try now to implement the best system of public education that we can."

Dunbar said she was "very transparent" during her campaign for the state board about having educated her own children outside the public school system and about her views on public education. She said she believes the Texas Freedom Network is watching her closely because her district includes Austin, where the organization is based.

"I'm not TFN's favorite person, but that's OK," Dunbar said. "I do not despise public education. What I take issue with are the more liberal organizations like TFN that tend to contaminate public education."

Kathy Miller, president of the Texas Freedom Network, said Dunbar's book "crosses the line" and said it is critical that parents know of Dunbar's "extremist" views. The network has 30,000 supporters statewide, she said.

"Dunbar thinks our public schools are unconstitutional and tyrannical," Miller said. "Why on earth would she want to serve on the SBOE? More importantly, why would Texans want her to, either?"

Bevets: "Secular Fundamentalists have been ruining public education. Our students deserve better. We need more school board members like Cynthia Dunbar." - Bevets

FTFY

The Renaissance

The Enlightenment

The Industrial Revolution

WWII


Man is maintaining a steady course away from retards who argue about observable evidence, and Man will continue on that course.

The Fundy Retards seem potent now because they're cornered and dwindling. Dwindle on motherfarkers. You're the same subset of hillbilly trash that resisted Suffrage and Abolition - and since you no longer argue those issues, you admit you were wrong then. You're as wrong now when you go apeshiat over Gay Marriage as you were when expressing your concerns over the Negro being given the Vote. How do you feel about negroes voting now a-holes?

You represent all that remains in the nature of Man that is bad, that is evil. Full of Hate and Willful Ignorance is no way to go through life son.

Theaetetus: Bevets: "Secular Fundamentalists have been ruining public education. Our students deserve better. We need more school board members like Cynthia Dunbar." ~ Bevets

FTFY

FTFY. The tilde man... The tilde

DamnYankees: Oh, this woman also has a law degree from Regent University - Pat Robertson's Law School. Same place where Monica Goodline, the #3 person in the United States Department of Justice, got her law degree.

What. The. fark.

Wait, she thinks that public education is unconstitutional because it undermines scripture and she went to law school?fark. Before now I just thought Regent was a law school for religious idiots. I didn't realize they also taught the law wrong.