my being quickest to post indicates that no one cares about the HA anymore.

good call

Nah they need another good riot somewhere to get into the limelight. They have been way too tame lately.

When lawyers are outlawed only outlaws will have lawyers.

kd6nig: Nah they need another good riot somewhere to get into the limelight. They have been way too tame lately.

Their days as security guards are long gone.

Yeah we have hells angel parades around here too.

Those guys are still around? I thought they died out with the 70's.

Hot cuz dats how I be rollin', haters.

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We Bad

They're called bikies in Australia? Know how I know you're gay?

H.A. are more mob than gang these days. Most people would rather see Hell's Angels in town rather than a gang like the bloods or crips. Why? They run their outfit more like a business and more and more they deal with rivals by incorporating them rather than fighting. They also tend not to do drive-by's, which I can imagine are tough on a two wheeled vehicle.

I know three HA members:

One was my pediatrician when I was growing up, one is my dentist, and the third was my next door neighbor. He was a middle-manager for a IT firm last time I saw him.

All three are a bit past the "hookers and blow" age.

generic user: H.A. are more mob than gang these days. Most people would rather see Hell's Angels in town rather than a gang like the bloods or crips. Why? They run their outfit more like a business and more and more they deal with rivals by incorporating them rather than fighting. They also tend not to do drive-by's, which I can imagine are tough on a two wheeled vehicle.

We kind of screwed ourselves when the FBI cleaned out the mob perhaps a little too efficiently. The good old criminal outfits used to have standards. They'd kill each other, but they had firm rules against killing innocents. Not always because of morals, but more because they were concerned with bad press and the like. These days the homeboys in Detroit can't think past the last line of crack they did.

John Buck 41 - A few years ago I saw some pics of the aftermath of a shootout of two Aussie bike gangs...I personally wouldn't be caught making fun of them being called "bikies"...

Great show!

Ah, (Harley-clone) bikers. Fat, middle aged poseurs who wear the trappings of anti-social youth without having the courage or convictions to actually act like anti-social youth.

generic user: H.A. are more mob than gang these days. Most people would rather see Hell's Angels in town rather than a gang like the bloods or crips. Why? They run their outfit more like a business and more and more they deal with rivals by incorporating them rather than fighting. They also tend not to do drive-by's, which I can imagine are tough on a two wheeled vehicle.

You should check out their history in Quebec. It includes a whole lot more of the drive-bys, bombings, shootouts, and assassinations than that described in your scenario. The Quebec biker war got pretty messy.

The ones in the picture are not Angels

MaaseyRacer: Yeah we have hells angel parades around here too.

Fark you! They ain't gay! I dare you say dat to one of their faces pussy! Hells Angels could kick your pasty loser ass if you have dem half a chance!

MIguy: Great show!

I don't know what to do with my Wednesday nights anymore now that the season is over...

ha-ha-guy: generic user: H.A. are more mob than gang these days. Most people would rather see Hell's Angels in town rather than a gang like the bloods or crips. Why? They run their outfit more like a business and more and more they deal with rivals by incorporating them rather than fighting. They also tend not to do drive-by's, which I can imagine are tough on a two wheeled vehicle.

We kind of screwed ourselves when the FBI cleaned out the mob perhaps a little too efficiently. The good old criminal outfits used to have standards. They'd kill each other, but they had firm rules against killing innocents. Not always because of morals, but more because they were concerned with bad press and the like. These days the homeboys in Detroit can't think past the last line of crack they did.

Do you even know what crack is??

Nicholas Urfe: Ah, (Harley-clone) bikers. Fat, middle aged poseurs who wear the trappings of anti-social youth without having the courage or convictions to actually act like anti-social youth.

THIS. I once worked for an IT manager who was obviously going through a mid-life crisis. Buying a Harley I can sort of understand, but wearing a Harley Davidson ring in the office ????

Anybody that dresses like that has to be a homo.

Ned the Wookie: Anybody that dresses like that has to be a homo.

That's not fair. I'm sure that some of them also like manly women.

John Buck 41: They're called bikies in Australia? Know how I know you're gay?

That's okay, they called the other guys "coppers". I guess they've watched too many US 1930s movies.

I would also not want my picture included with that sorry looking group of riders....

Come on, guys, this is Australia.... I have to bring my own Toe Cutter references to the table???!??


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Why do people insist on joining a group in their attempt to be a unique rebel?

evajyna: MaaseyRacer: Yeah we have hells angel parades around here too.

Fark you! They ain't gay! I dare you say dat to one of their faces pussy! Hells Angels could kick your pasty loser ass if you have dem half a chance!

I give it just 3/10, too much rage and bombast. Needs to be more low key: "keep talkin' and they'll never even find the body parts".

I think the money would be better used in the Dingoes Ate My Baby Fund.

evajyna, is there some aversion to the th combination or does speaking like "dat" give street cred?

evajyna: ha-ha-guy: generic user: H.A. are more mob than gang these days. Most people would rather see Hell's Angels in town rather than a gang like the bloods or crips. Why? They run their outfit more like a business and more and more they deal with rivals by incorporating them rather than fighting. They also tend not to do drive-by's, which I can imagine are tough on a two wheeled vehicle.

We kind of screwed ourselves when the FBI cleaned out the mob perhaps a little too efficiently. The good old criminal outfits used to have standards. They'd kill each other, but they had firm rules against killing innocents. Not always because of morals, but more because they were concerned with bad press and the like. These days the homeboys in Detroit can't think past the last line of crack they did.

Do you even know what crack is??

No. I'm actually proud of that fact.

/Yeah yeah you smoke crack.

These guys are big in Canada too. They got their hands in a lot of the drug trade and they launder the proceeds through legitimate businesses. In Vancouver, they used to own a bunch of strip clubs and bars back in the day, don't know about now.

Dupa: evajyna: MaaseyRacer: Yeah we have hells angel parades around here too.

Fark you! They ain't gay! I dare you say dat to one of their faces pussy! Hells Angels could kick your pasty loser ass if you have dem half a chance!

I give it just 3/10, too much rage and bombast. Needs to be more low key: "keep talkin' and they'll never even find the body parts".

Dammit! Foiled again! I thought the number of misspelled words would give me away.

Yo, subby, if you know an HA, you don't talk about them.

/ knows HAs, doesn't talk about 'em
// and nothing pisses me off more than seeing cops, lawyers and other college boys in biker gear on Harleys.
/// Freedom or death!

Jkirby
The ones in the picture are not Angels

Came to say this.

I haven't seen the word 'copper' used in a really long time when it wasn't referring to a refined metal.

The Tony Danzas: generic user: H.A. are more mob than gang these days. Most people would rather see Hell's Angels in town rather than a gang like the bloods or crips. Why? They run their outfit more like a business and more and more they deal with rivals by incorporating them rather than fighting. They also tend not to do drive-by's, which I can imagine are tough on a two wheeled vehicle.

You should check out their history in Quebec. It includes a whole lot more of the drive-bys, bombings, shootouts, and assassinations than that described in your scenario. The Quebec biker war got pretty messy.

I'm familiar with it. The Mafia had it's nasty days too. That turf war was localized in Quebec, ghetto thug violence is widespread and has no end in sight. In fact, it only promises to get worse.

I'd rather see neither, but if given the choice, I'd rather have a Hell's Angels chapter in town rather than a Bloods, Crips, or Sur-13

"A few weeks later, one of the tow- truck drivers was pulled over and beaten by unidentified men. He has refused to make a statement to police.

Less than three weeks after the raids, the safe expert's factory was badly damaged by a deliberately lit fire. No one has ever been charged.

In late 2003, a Richmond lawyer who tired of acting for a member of the Hells Angels eventually sacked his client. Following the dispute came the almost inevitable payback -- three attempts to set fire to the lawyer's office."

Geeze, no wonder these guys are so hard to catch. It must take a genius to figure out where they're going to be.

Whenever I watch serial crime dramas it always amazes me that in reality it is so hard to catch these lifelong psychopaths who seem to break the law at every opportunity.

ha-ha-guy: evajyna: ha-ha-guy: generic user: H.A. are more mob than gang these days. Most people would rather see Hell's Angels in town rather than a gang like the bloods or crips. Why? They run their outfit more like a business and more and more they deal with rivals by incorporating them rather than fighting. They also tend not to do drive-by's, which I can imagine are tough on a two wheeled vehicle.

We kind of screwed ourselves when the FBI cleaned out the mob perhaps a little too efficiently. The good old criminal outfits used to have standards. They'd kill each other, but they had firm rules against killing innocents. Not always because of morals, but more because they were concerned with bad press and the like. These days the homeboys in Detroit can't think past the last line of crack they did.

Do you even know what crack is??

No. I'm actually proud of that fact.

/Yeah yeah you smoke crack.

You don't have to smoke crack to know what it is...

Barbecue Bob: Why do people insist on joining a group in their attempt to be a unique rebel?

People have a psychological need to feel special, but as a member of a million year old highly gregarious social species their instincts tell them that to have that they must be in some kind of exclusive tribal group. Kind of sad, really.

Anyway, who wants to sponsor me for Total Fark?

ha-ha-guy: generic user: H.A. are more mob than gang these days. Most people would rather see Hell's Angels in town rather than a gang like the bloods or crips. Why? They run their outfit more like a business and more and more they deal with rivals by incorporating them rather than fighting. They also tend not to do drive-by's, which I can imagine are tough on a two wheeled vehicle.

We kind of screwed ourselves when the FBI cleaned out the mob perhaps a little too efficiently. The good old criminal outfits used to have standards. They'd kill each other, but they had firm rules against killing innocents. Not always because of morals, but more because they were concerned with bad press and the like. These days the homeboys in Detroit can't think past the last line of crack they did.

The Mob is not "cleaned out", but they are definitely smarter with how they do business.

The shame is, that if drugs were legalized, a good chunk of the gang problem would end.

No illegal goods, no need for a black market. They go back to bicycle chains and switchblades and just being a pain in the ass.

Wow! Aussie Hells Angels!

BIKIES???
Thats the first time I have ever seen THAT sissy word.

Seriously, remember, "First they came for the Jews and I didn't say anything because I am not a Jew..."

Don't allow the cops to abuse ANY segment of the public!

bgarrett: BIKIES???
Thats the first time I have ever seen THAT sissy word.

It's how Australians do things. Breakfast becomes brekkie television becomes telly, etc

Bikies and their boyfriends Down Under ;)

Nicholas Urfe: Ah, (Harley-clone) bikers. Fat, middle aged poseurs who wear the trappings of anti-social youth without having the courage or convictions to actually act like anti-social youth.

Otherwise known as Chromosexuals.

generic user: H.A. are more mob than gang these days. Most people would rather see Hell's Angels in town rather than a gang like the bloods or crips. Why? They run their outfit more like a business and more and more they deal with rivals by incorporating them rather than fighting. They also tend not to do drive-by's, which I can imagine are tough on a two wheeled vehicle.

You can do a lot of things on two wheels.

I think it's because they're all old people, and how much physical damage or property damage can old people do? Crips + Bloods + the old Latin Kings (are they still around?) = young. Hells Angels = Old farts.

If you want to do an insurance scam or a pyramiding government welfare scam involving business licenses and/or farming property -- go to old people. Right? Unless they're in the pedo bear business, the only sex they've got going is swing clubs with other old people..... and it doesn't matter how crazy and wild it gets, no one cares about what old people do with one another, right?

Hell's Angels are like Republicans right now: in need of a youth (and diversity) transfusion, but staunchly against both.

bgarrett: BIKIES???
Thats the first time I have ever seen THAT sissy word.

Seriously, remember, "First they came for the Jews and I didn't say anything because I am not a Jew..."

Don't allow the cops to abuse ANY segment of the public!

Difference is, in my country they come for the bikers because they fight each other with RPGs, handgranades, carbombs etc.
When you're that kind of segment of the public, you don't get to whine about police attention.

trad16: Nicholas Urfe: Ah, (Harley-clone) bikers. Fat, middle aged poseurs who wear the trappings of anti-social youth without having the courage or convictions to actually act like anti-social youth.

Otherwise known as Chromosexuals.

THIS! Man I didn't know there was a word for 'em, but now I do. May the darkness bless you!

/ doesn't ride but played bass for the real deal.
// Freedom or Death!

So, their strategy is to fight every charge against bikers (excuse me aussies - "bikies")(even the geekiest american is shaking his head) and tie up the court system with delays and appeals.

My conservative handbook says that since they're not muslims, I'm totally behind them on this.