Good, about time parents are actually held responsible for their crotchfruit.

Floggings will continue until morale improves.

_{/or you could build an education system that doesn't suck}

the american solution to everything seems to be to throw money at it and see if it gets better. It doesn't.

enjoy.

I like this concept.

School or jail.
Work or jail
retire on SS or jail.

59 times.

How's mom suppposed to pimp her snowflake out if she's in school?

/family that plays together, stays together
//seat over there? sure.

Dead Farker Walken: the american solution to everything seems to be to throw money at it and see if it gets better. It doesn't.

enjoy.

Subby... I see what you did there.

However... Dead Farker Walken: the american solution to everything seems to be to throw money at it and see if it gets better. It doesn't.
enjoy.
Dead Farker Walken has a point. As much as school districts like to biat--- err complain about funds, it does come down to parents. Usually, (with exception, of course) shiat bag perents = shiat bag students.

perents... lol

PARENTS

Back in the Olden Days, when kids actually got detention for missing school, and parents actually had to pick them up 2 hours after school and the last bus or the kids had to walk home, and we lived in a district where the drive (or walk) could be 12 or 15 miles...

They gave our H.S. vice-principal a page-and-a-half chronic absent list at the beginning of my sophomore year, and it was down to 2 lines at the end of that year. Funny what making working parents pick up the kids two hours after school gets out--or making the kids hoof it 10 miles home--will do for attendance. (Not to mention that back then the walk home was no doubt followed by a trip behind the house with a leather strap)

But nowadays you can't make kids actually perform physical labor because they're naughty, or put parents to any inconvenience because schools want kids to learn something.

I know it isn't an excuse, but sometimes parents (esp. single moms)
have a hard time controlling their teens.You know how hard it is to discipline (sp?) your kid about skipping school when they tower over you? Ground them? they leave anyway. Can't take away their car because they don't have one anyway.

My solution? Take away those little f'ing criminals in training and put them into re-education camps. Parents have to pay for meals. IF the parents can't afford their food, then the little crotchlett doesn't eat. There will always be menial tasks around the camp they can do in exchange for food.

Dead Farker Walken: the american solution to everything seems to be to throw money at it and see if it gets better. It doesn't.

If throwing money doesn't work, incarcerate it. It's the American Way^(tm)

That_Bob_Guy: Dead Farker Walken: the american solution to everything seems to be to throw money at it and see if it gets better. It doesn't.

If throwing money doesn't work, incarcerate it. It's the American Way(tm)

Is that why we have this strategy with Arabs?

Dead Farker Walken: the american solution to everything seems to be to throw money at it and see if it gets better. It doesn't.

enjoy.

Well, I do like your proposed solution much better.

/Oh, wait.

Remove all Republicans: The only reason the school cares is their funding. The problem is we pay schools the schools receive matching federal funds based on the number of students in attendance every day, not on the number of students planning to attend. The school should be paid the same.

Fixed that for you.

Dead Farker Walken: the american solution to everything seems to be to throw money at it and see if it gets better. It doesn't.

enjoy.

So if I cause you trouble, you'll throw money at me... on this same note of logic, does more trouble = more money?

/isn't really a troublemaker
//anymore

New Daddy! (new window)

Hey kid's, why not become a chimney sweep?



/ Cor blimey, guv'ner, good old fashioned child labour will fix 'em.

Some parents just do not care and should be held totally accountable... but a parent that actually WORKS and doesn't pop out kids and makes their living being a whore off welfare shouldn't be lumped in with the others. As far as they know the child is getting on the bus or walking to school.. even being dropped off AT school (not to mention our schools said 'Once to you leave your house until you return, you are on school time! Thus if you got in a fight, on or off school property, you got detention or suspension - so the PRINCIPLE is actually the responsible party!)

How are working parents supposed to know what is going on once the child leaves for school unless they are notified BEFORE they miss too many days?

When I was a kid, friends and I skipped school every once in a while, and considered it an art form. We had these people back then employed by the school (or the city, can't remember) called truant officers - mostly women who we fondly called the Harpies. One of these officers, who looked like a cross between Olive Oyl and the Sea Hag, spotted me getting onto the subway on the way to meet up with other truants. She followed me to a popular teen hang out, a deli with all kinds of arcade stuff and interesting stuff to buy, and busted all 6 of us. Nothing much happened: got my ass paddled by the disciplinarian at school, my father and grandparents were up set that I was dumb enough to get caught, served several day of detention, and had to get up at 4:30AM for two weeks to serve mass at our parish church, which was harsh. Lesson learned: don't skip often and don't hang out in obvious places. After that we truants started taking day trips out of town (good times, very good times). We had no fear of being caught because the Harpies had magical restrictions that prevented them from leaving the city limits, or so we liked to believe.

Damned if you beat them, damned if you don't.

There is just no winning.

Dead Farker Walken: the american solution to everything seems to be to throw money at it and see if it gets better. It doesn't.

enjoy.

No, the American solution to education is to spend less money and demand the same results. If you don't get the results you want, give them even less money. That'll teach 'em.

Hey kids -- Don't let school interfere with your education. Get out there and explore your world.

Skipping class was an art from when I was a high school student as well. By my driving days, I was working full-time at a respectable job, earning 2-3x what my teachers were being paid. Many of them were aware of this and would mark me as present even if I didn't show up. Many of them commented that I was learning far more useful things on the job than the school's curriculum.

Sure, I "missed out" on many high school things, such as prom and homecoming. The consolation prize of making six figures more than made up for it in my book.

OnmyojiOmn: Dead Farker Walken: the american solution to everything seems to be to throw money at it and see if it gets better. It doesn't.

enjoy.

No, the American solution to education is to spend less money and demand the same results. If you don't get the results you want, give them even less money. That'll teach 'em.

Huh? We spend more than any country per student.

Sean M: Hey kids -- Don't let school interfere with your education. Get out there and explore your world.

Skipping class was an art from when I was a high school student as well. By my driving days, I was working full-time at a respectable job, earning 2-3x what my teachers were being paid. Many of them were aware of this and would mark me as present even if I didn't show up. Many of them commented that I was learning far more useful things on the job than the school's curriculum.

Sure, I "missed out" on many high school things, such as prom and homecoming. The consolation prize of making six figures more than made up for it in my book.

This one smells of bullshiat to me.

Where the hell were you working, making 6 figures, at under 18 years of age, w/o a highschool diploma?

The first time I read the name of the County Sheriff's spokesman I thought it was Art Forgery

Came here for the snowflake and crotchfruit self-loathing remarks. Leaving satisfied.

Oh, and fark you.

Newt13: I know it isn't an excuse, but sometimes parents (esp. single moms)
have a hard time controlling their teens.You know how hard it is to discipline (sp?) your kid about skipping school when they tower over you? Ground them? they leave anyway. Can't take away their car because they don't have one anyway.


Uncontrollable teenagers don't just happen overnight. It's been poor parenting for a long time.

Speaking from personal experience, it is pretty sad when you call a parent to tell them their child has had excessive absences and they don't give a fark about it.

And it is a vicious cycle with the attendance. With the state mandated testing, we need the kiddies to be in school to gain knowledge to pass the basic proficiency tests. If the school doesn't make their AYP (Adequate Yearly Progress) as defined in NCLB, they lose funds. So how can the school then afford the better teachers with the snappy lessons and the technology to engage this generation of students? They can't. They're stuck with many lesser quality teachers who don't know how to engage this generation, hence students wanting to skip school.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

Not all parents with kids that skip school are delinquent themselves. A single parent that has to go to work before their angle goes off to school cannot be sure they got on the bus as they promised. If the school doesn't notify the parent until they are in violation, what can the parent do.
Sean M: Six figures is peanuts. How much more would you be making if you had done it right?

Dead Farker Walken: the american solution to everything seems to be to throw money at it and see if it gets better. It doesn't.

Your magazine. How do we subscribe to it?

I just wanted to mention that monday is day 70 of school here in FL. so, that's 59 out of 70 days.

Came in for Mr. Rooney, leaving satisfied.

"The moves are the latest step in the nation's march to hold students to higher educational standards and to hold their parents to higher standards of accountability."

am i alone in thinking that this application of education and accountability are being applied in the opposite way in which they need to be?

rackrent: 59 times.

came to say this about that. Bueller.

And yet again we see a solution applied to the wrong point. Jail the parent as much as you want. Hell jail their neighbors and everybody on the street. Jail everybody that knows the kid. Keep jailing everybody and doing things to anybody EXCEPT the kid and the problem will never go away.

It is just like the drinking and smoking ages. You'll never stop the underage purchasing of those products as long as there is no penalty for buying them and only a penalty for selling them.

It's just like the campaign finance laws. You will continue to have illegal contributions as long as there is only a penalty for giving it to the politician and none for taking it.

Attack the problem and not the edges of it.

Kinda like that girl you dated that didn't like sucking on the wang. She would just put her mouth all around it or by it but never ON it. Get you damn mouth on it and solve the problem or GTFO and let somebody else solve it.

The problem I have with this rule is that they even state that a parent doesn't have to know about these truancies, and can still face jail time for them. Wtf sense does that make?

Throw the kid in detention until she makes up the time she lost doing whatever the hell she was doing those 59 days. If she skips out on that, too, jail HER.

Parents do have a responsibility to raise their kids right, but that doesn't mean they're completely responsible for a teenager's actions. Especially when teens are well-known for doing the exact opposite of what their parents want them to do.

I am surprised no one caught this FTA:

The moves are the latest step in the nation's march to hold students to higher educational standards and to hold their parents to higher standards of accountability.

surrrrrre...

If she can't handle the brat, she should tell cops to let the brat go to jail. She is the one that does deserve it. Maybe the mother does too, maybe not, but the brat sure does.

So who's watching the kid while mom's in jail?

Parents get a call every time a kid is not in the first period of the day. Not knowing your kid is not in school is neglect. Just sayin'.

Vertdang: broadcasting and the music industry. And no, I wasn't employed by family members. I started at a whole $7/hr and worked my way up. 60-100 hrs/week. When you're working those kind of hours it doesn't take too long to make some decent money. Start coming up with multiple decisions that save/make the company an extra $60-100k/year each and they'll usually find some way to keep you around.

grumpyoldman: I would have made far less. I was able to advance the way I did because of my young age and how unusual it was. I also didn't have any pre-conceived ideas about how things worked. I didn't have the college courses under my belt that people in similar positions would have, thus I learned the skills in the field, without the constraints of the textbooks and professors. This meant I made quite a few mistakes, but it also meant I came up with approaches to things no one else dared try. Sometimes they actually were wildly successful.

I've since spoken with a few of my teachers from back then. All of them agree I made the right decisions -- I learned far more on the job than I ever would there. The job required calculus, trig, finance, and physics, all which I would have never been presented at that high school. Then there's the social growth of working and pretty much living my entire life in a group of college grads (24-35) as my new peers. Yes, I missed out on many of the stupid but fun things college kids did, but I'm not regretting any bit of it. At the same time, dating hot college grads was rather exciting.