Which one is Michael Jackson?

"Bean Flipper?"

A Tranny by other name is still a trannie!

Awesome!! We need this here in the US.

Also known as the "COBOL and SQL Programmers Full Employment Act of 2009".

wtf?

Male. Female.

Unless we've begun crossbreeding with some race of aliens.

3)Stone It To Death

chicks w/ dicks and barbie/ken doll?

/DRTFA

What's the point of having an "intersex" option? If you're going to let people pick a gender identity on your paperwork, you might as well let them choose their preferred name for it or give people the ability to pick "none".

/trying to dodge child support and alimony

Um. This is retarded. Gender isn't something you wake up one day and decide you want to call yourself the other. You're either male or female. Even if you decide to medically become the other, you then become the other.

The only exception should be those people who are born with some kind of physical defect that prevents determining male or female. Anything other than that and you just have to deal with what you are.

Uncle Farker?

I'm gonna check the "Tentacle Monster" box when I apply for an Aussie visa.

/RapeRapeRapeRapeRapeRapeRapeRapeRapeRapeRapeRapeRape

Hermaphrodites can go fark themselves.

Er....why is this needed? Even fr intersexed people there's two very easy, definate options-whatever they were born as-boom, done-or what they identify as...boom, done. Anything beyond that is just stupid. Employers don't particularly need to know your whole sexual life story anyway.

Name: RoxtarRyan
Hair: Blond
Eyes: Green
Sex: Yes, please

FrancoFile: Also known as the "COBOL and SQL Programmers Full Employment Act of 2009".

WTF?

FrancoFile: Also known as the "COBOL and SQL Programmers Full Employment Act of 2009".

Sir or ma'am, please step forward to collect your internet.

Fark Me To Tears: WTF?

Obviously you're not a IT/IS type ;)

Do you know why it is, when a rancher farks a sheep, he does so at the edge of a cliff? It's so the sheep will push back.

FrancoFile: Also known as the "COBOL and SQL Programmers Full Employment Act of 2009".

I'm an SQL programmer, you insensitive clod!

Coming to an Australian government form near you:

Sex:

a) Male
b) Female
c) Yes please
d) All of the above

FTFA: "A person who cannot or chooses not to undergo surgery would not be automatically ineligible to request a change in their legal sex."

I wouldn't be unopposed to not having a surfeit of negatives in one sentence.

Roughly one in a thousand people are born neither male nor female, but somewhere between or perhaps both. If you think identification is awkward, you should see what happens when they try to use gender specific public restrooms. Society is too advanced to remain ignorant about this kind of thing. These are people we are talking about.

Say what?

/drop yer drawers and check if yer unsure

Simple genetic test..
XY = Male.
XX = Female.
YY = Alien.

/End of line.

hmmm....Mollusk....is it REALLY that common?

Woman
Woe man
Whoa man
She was a thief
You gotta believe
She stole my heart and my cat

MrBentor: Simple genetic test..
XY = Male.
XX = Female.
YY = Alien.

/End of line.

What about...

XYY = ?
XXY = ?
XXX = ?
XO = ?

Those do pop up every so often, where someone has either an extra sex chromosome or only sex chromosome. Although I've never heard about someone being born with zero X chromosomes (I'm guessing it's a lethal phenotype?).

We call those "Kiwis"

/unimpressed
//beary hot

O.K, I first read that as "may add third or even fourth grader as means of sexual identification." Which made me throw up in my mouth a little.

/Must stop reading FARK while I'm tired.

flyf15 Gender isn't something you wake up one day and decide you want to call yourself the other. You're either male or female.

Reality isn't something you wake up one day and decide you want to call yourself the other. You're either correct or incorrect. Even if you attempt to spout off about genetics, identity, and genitalia without actual knowledge.

/psst
//you're wrong

flyf15: Um. This is retarded. Gender isn't something you wake up one day and decide you want to call yourself the other. You're either male or female. Even if you decide to medically become the other, you then become the other.

The only exception should be those people who are born with some kind of physical defect that prevents determining male or female. Anything other than that and you just have to deal with what you are.

NO. you cannot change your chromosomes. there is no sex change operation. it is only the paintjob/body that changes, the engine is the same.

Mimic_Octopus NO. you cannot change your chromosomes.

Tell me...how many variations of sex chromosomes are standard and how many occur, in humans.

Australia is trying to follow social standards in Thailand?

Boys have a penis. Girls have a vagina.

So easy, even a kindergartener can get it.

I'm not sure I understand the difference between intersex and other. Maybe I'm being ignorant here (if so, please correct me), but maybe the Sex and Gender Education Australia people should just be happy about the intersex thing.

Vangor: Mimic_Octopus NO. you cannot change your chromosomes.

Tell me...how many variations of sex chromosomes are standard and how many occur, in humans.

tell me... how many have changed what they were born with?

sarstev: hmmm....Mollusk....is it REALLY that common?

No dude. No it's not

m0llusk: These are people we are talking about.

You keep on throwing that word around. Are we sure that they are? What if they are the next stage in human evolution and will try to kill us with their brains?

Androgenous telepathic grays? In my future? Not if I have anything to say about it

How about this. Penis? Male. Vagina? Female. Ambiguous? DNA test.

And you can never change it. Sorry kiddos, you are what you are. You may be a farked up male hell bent on believing yourself a female, but you will always genetically be male. Unless you can conjure up a really creative form of gene therapy.

I'm all for trying to be accepting and generous to people, whether they're all farked up or not, but we have to put some sane limits on how far we'll go to be accommodating in a legal and bureaucratic sense.

1. There are people with ambiguous genitalia.
2. There are people who have a female brain yet a male body and vice versa.
3. There are MANY other chromosome combos, not just XX and YY i.e. XXXX, XXXY XYY X ...

Mimic_Octopus tell me... how many have changed what they were born with?

So I take it you're arguing for additional options for sexual identification? From the tone, I assumed you were promoting rigid definitions along XX or XY.

Dialectic: A Tranny by other name is still a trannie!

but they're still good in bed.

I used to know a hermaphrodite, he was born that way and did not elect to have any kind of radical surgery.

Going by some of the logic on this board if a guy loses his testicals to cancer he is how a woman and should have to sign the female box or as some have said - an alien box.

How fkin insensitive can you get ? People with GID have to live their entire lives stuck in a body they dont want, for fark sake let them tick what ever box makes them feel good!

standard:
XX
XY

Non-Standard:
XX male syndrome
AIS
Klinefelter's syndrome
karyotype variations


Still can't change what you're born with.

Rootus but you will always genetically be male.

Unless you're not XX, but aren't XY. The system is meant to be binary; the system is not, however.

Pinhead Patriot: Boys have a penis. Girls have a vagina.

So easy, even a kindergartener can get it.

if only life was as simple as you.

nutkick_42: chicks w/ dicks and barbie/ken doll?

/DRTFA

Beautiful chicks with dicks that put mine to shame.

/Also didn't read it.

Mimic_Octopus Still can't change what you're born with.

True, I never disagreed with this. There is no current therapy to do this, nor could I conceive of this being a good idea. Sorry, I notice a lot of people in these threads believe that it is one or the other, and the from sounds it seemed as though you were suggesting ambiguity was a mental state and wasn't genetic.

Pinhead Patriot: Boys have a penis. Girls have a vagina.

So easy, even a kindergartener can get it.

I've known people who claim to have a penis, when in reality they have got no farking balls.