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(Some Guy) Interesting Seven lost albums that should never be found; was eight until Chinese Democracy came out   (seattleweekly.com) divider line 40
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biyaaatci 2008-12-06 03:22:03 PM  
Unreleased albums fascinate me for the massive amounts of money and time wasted on them. Some of them, though, like Smile really are worth the wait.

 
rekoil [TotalFark] 2008-12-06 03:28:04 PM  
Going in the opposite direction - Anyone know where mp3s of the original unreleased version of Orb's Cydonia can be found? The record was delivered to Island in 1999 right before they got acquired by Universal, which delayed the release by two years - and in the interim, two things happened: 1. The original version made it onto Napster, and 2. Alex Paterson continued to tweak the record to within an inch of its life. And my copy of the original was lost in a HD crash years ago :(

 
FlyingPig [TotalFark] 2008-12-06 03:36:03 PM  
Weezer's Songs From the Black Hole would have been cool, probably cooler than Pinkerton. I'll take a space rock album over a guy obsessing over his creepy Asian schoolgirl fetish.

Pink Floyd's Household Objects would have been a waste though, and the band rightly realized this. It might not have been all that much weirder than the experimental tracks on Ummagumma, though.

 
mahavishnunj 2008-12-06 03:59:57 PM  
biyaaatci: Unreleased albums fascinate me for the massive amounts of money and time wasted on them. Some of them, though, like Smile really are worth the wait.

i didnt wait, i made my own that is vastly superior to the one that finally came out officially.

 
GypsyJoker 2008-12-06 04:04:39 PM  
mahavishnunj: biyaaatci: Unreleased albums fascinate me for the massive amounts of money and time wasted on them. Some of them, though, like Smile really are worth the wait.

i didnt wait, i made my own that is vastly superior to the one that finally came out officially.


How are The Lost Trident Sessions?

 
1derful 2008-12-06 04:11:24 PM  
Obviously someone hasn't been following Weezer's career. Space farking would be a quatillion times better than the last album.

 
FlyingPig [TotalFark] 2008-12-06 04:18:06 PM  
1derful: Obviously someone hasn't been following Weezer's career. Space farking would be a quatillion times better than the last album.

I like the Red Album. It's a throwback to the Blue Album.

Make Believe, though, was the biggest turd of an album ever crapped out by any band in history.

 
mahavishnunj 2008-12-06 04:30:53 PM  
GypsyJoker: How are The Lost Trident Sessions?

man, at first i hated it. its not a real album. and for all the biatching about the other guys not getting more writing time-its obvious why on this record. but listening to it again i kinda like it. youre not missing anything by missing it, but if youre a fan check it out. what everyone DOES need to hear is the 71 bootleg with 'dream' on it thats better than the BNAE version.

 
GypsyJoker 2008-12-06 04:39:27 PM  
mahavishnunj: GypsyJoker: How are The Lost Trident Sessions?

man, at first i hated it. its not a real album. and for all the biatching about the other guys not getting more writing time-its obvious why on this record. but listening to it again i kinda like it. youre not missing anything by missing it, but if youre a fan check it out. what everyone DOES need to hear is the 71 bootleg with 'dream' on it thats better than the BNAE version.


Good deal. I'll probably pick it up (I'm a would-be completist of the first MO's work). I should also probably look into the boots as well. Would also love a CD copy of Mar Y Sol, but I'll have to settle for the YouTubed version, which has pretty good audio.

Thanks.

 
FlyingPig [TotalFark] 2008-12-06 04:40:37 PM  
On a side note, I'm listening to the stream of Chinese Democracy right now. Holy fark does this album suck balls.

 
headlessparrot 2008-12-06 04:41:18 PM  
biyaaatci: Unreleased albums fascinate me for the massive amounts of money and time wasted on them. Some of them, though, like Smile really are worth the wait.

Agreed. There's something bizarrely compelling about these works that sit gathering dust after so much effort/time/money has been put into them. Of course, it's not just music that this applies to--I was only just made aware of The Day The Clown Cried (new window) the other day. Upon reading up a bit, I was torn between abject horror, disbelieving amusement, and endless fascination.

 
mahavishnunj 2008-12-06 04:59:55 PM  
GypsyJoker: Good deal. I'll probably pick it up (I'm a would-be completist of the first MO's work).

ive got several super rare JM and MO things on the site that rhymes with blowcreep. same name as here. the 71 boot is the oldest ive been able to find and it also has a weird early version of 'miles beyond'.

 
FiveByFive 2008-12-06 05:10:56 PM  
I'm sure I'll catch hell for it, but I would love to have heard the stolen album from Green Day that led them to write American Idiot.

It was supposed to be more like Insomniac, which is one of their best, if'n you ask me.


/but you didn't ask me...

 
rekoil [TotalFark] 2008-12-06 06:31:41 PM  
FiveByFive: I'm sure I'll catch hell for it, but I would love to have heard the stolen album from Green Day that led them to write American Idiot.

So, how does an album get "stolen"? Someone scams the band out of the copyrights?

 
headlessparrot 2008-12-06 06:36:50 PM  
rekoil: So, how does an album get "stolen"? Someone scams the band out of the copyrights?

According to Wikipedia, the masters to 20 or so songs for an album to be called Cigarettes and Valentines were lost.

 
rekoil [TotalFark] 2008-12-06 06:38:15 PM  
rekoil:

So, how does an album get "stolen"? Someone scams the band out of the copyrights?

Replying to myself, teh wikis say someone broke into the studio and made off with the master tapes - so we're talking actual theft here. Strange, given that "master tapes" nowadays are simply ProTools session files, I'm surprised there weren't backups...

 
WhyteRaven74 [TotalFark] 2008-12-06 07:00:46 PM  
rekoil: Strange, given that "master tapes" nowadays are simply ProTools session files

Not necessarily, plenty of people still work with tape. Do the recording and mixing on tape, at the least, then transfer to tapeless stuff for mastering. Keep in mind master tape means the original recordings, not a mastered tape, which is what's used to make the original CD's and such for pressing. Steal a tape after mastering, big deal, just a hassle to remaster the original mix. Steal the original recording? That's a huge big deal.

 
Bhasayate [TotalFark] 2008-12-06 07:33:38 PM  
I was listening to Chinese Democracy until I forgot that itunes was set to 'shuffle' then "How Soon is Now?" came on and I forgot all about Chinese Democracy.

But, Chinese Democracy isn't bad, better than Velvet Revolver. That is pretty boring stuff.

But yeah, Johnny Marr ftw.

 
blemish98 2008-12-06 08:49:13 PM  
rekoil: Going in the opposite direction - Anyone know where mp3s of the original unreleased version of Orb's Cydonia can be found? The record was delivered to Island in 1999 right before they got acquired by Universal, which delayed the release by two years - and in the interim, two things happened: 1. The original version made it onto Napster, and 2. Alex Paterson continued to tweak the record to within an inch of its life. And my copy of the original was lost in a HD crash years ago :(


Yes. The 1999 (V0) and the 2008 (V0, FLAC) reworked editions

But your E isn't in P....

 
Slu 2008-12-06 09:39:34 PM  
biyaaatci: Unreleased albums fascinate me for the massive amounts of money and time wasted on them. Some of them, though, like Smile really are worth the wait.

I thought Smile sucked, but it may have been impossible to live up to the hype.

 
FeedTheCollapse 2008-12-06 11:49:09 PM  
FlyingPig:
Pink Floyd's Household Objects would have been a waste though, and the band rightly realized this. It might not have been all that much weirder than the experimental tracks on Ummagumma, though.


I'd like to hear it. I could've sworn there was an album of ambient outtakes from The Division Bell as well that was supposed to be released. Any news on this?


Slowdive also has a wealth of unreleased tracks as well.

/patiently waiting for new My Bloody valentine.
//subby

 
Derwood 2008-12-06 11:57:26 PM  
GILMOUR

GILMOUR

GILMOUR


NOT NOT NOT GILMORE

 
author1701 2008-12-07 12:14:55 AM  
What? No "Stone of Sisyphus" by Chicago?

Oh, yeah. Rhino put that out after it had been sitting around for about 20 years. Could have waited at least 20 more.

Sometimes evil record companies are right when they tell you your album sucks.

 
Bhasayate [TotalFark] 2008-12-07 12:30:43 AM  
Derwood: GILMOUR

GILMOUR

GILMOUR


NOT NOT NOT GILMORE


But the REAL question is this: Gilmour Girls or Gilmore Girls?

 
steamingpile 2008-12-07 12:32:36 AM  
FlyingPig: On a side note, I'm listening to the stream of Chinese Democracy right now. Holy fark does this album suck balls.

As much as the hat and shirt in your profile pic? I dont think so.

Is it worth the long wait? No. Would it have been great if it came out 12 years ago? Yes. Oh and it kicks velvet revolvers ass, those albums sucked ass.

It better than 90% of the shiat people are talking about now, emo shiat can farking die.

 
andreirublev 2008-12-07 12:41:19 AM  
FeedTheCollapse:
Slowdive also has a wealth of unreleased tracks as well.


You know about this, right?

/patiently waiting for new My Bloody valentine.
THIS

 
andreirublev 2008-12-07 12:42:51 AM  
So I'd never heard of the Ian McCulloch and Johnny Marr things before, but as new news to me, that seems awesome.

 
FeedTheCollapse 2008-12-07 12:45:35 AM  
andreirublev: You know about this, right?



of course! Though, there's also plenty of alternate takes as well. Scrounging them up has been a headache. Pygmalion also has quite a few interesting demos. i think Prautrock, from the Pygmalion sessions, is one of my favorites.

 
andreirublev 2008-12-07 01:05:50 AM  
FeedTheCollapse:
of course! Though, there's also plenty of alternate takes as well. Scrounging them up has been a headache. Pygmalion also has quite a few interesting demos. i think Prautrock, from the Pygmalion sessions, is one of my favorites.


ooh, I did not know of Pygmalion demos.

/Goes off to download
//after I finish examining my shoes

 
spammuncher 2008-12-07 02:31:03 AM  
steamingpile: FlyingPig: On a side note, I'm listening to the stream of Chinese Democracy right now. Holy fark does this album suck balls.

As much as the hat and shirt in your profile pic? I dont think so.

Is it worth the long wait? No. Would it have been great if it came out 12 years ago? Yes. Oh and it kicks velvet revolvers ass, those albums sucked ass.

It better than 90% of the shiat people are talking about now, emo shiat can farking die.


You kinda got to feel sorry for the idjit, he has no idea that he's gone full retard; google "unaware unskilled".

/I'm sure it probably sucks on the low bit-rate stream he's listening to it on.
//Sounds great on good headphones!

 
Eshy 2008-12-07 03:16:44 AM  
FeedTheCollapse: andreirublev: You know about this, right?



of course! Though, there's also plenty of alternate takes as well. Scrounging them up has been a headache. Pygmalion also has quite a few interesting demos. i think Prautrock, from the Pygmalion sessions, is one of my favorites.


One of my best finds was walking into Jackpot Records in downtown Portland, Oregon and seeing Slowdive's "Pygmalion" and the "Outside Your Room" EP (both on vinyl) on the big wall of records for $30 and $25 respectively. Those were bought up very quickly. What's the story behind "I Saw The Sun"? Also, would you be willing to .rar up and upload more unreleased stuff or point me in the right direction of where to find it?

 
FeedTheCollapse 2008-12-07 11:59:31 AM  
Eshy: One of my best finds was walking into Jackpot Records in downtown Portland, Oregon and seeing Slowdive's "Pygmalion" and the "Outside Your Room" EP (both on vinyl) on the big wall of records for $30 and $25 respectively

I have Pygmalion on CD. It's actually in print again, by the way.

Pygmalion demos.

The "I Saw the Sun" compilation covers a vast majority of the Souvlaki-era demos. I do believe there are a few more, but they're most alternate mixes.

 
FeedTheCollapse 2008-12-07 12:02:40 PM  
List of Slowdive demos


apparently, they have a song called Sweaty Scrotum...

 
craigdamage 2008-12-07 12:05:51 PM  
FTA--part about Pink Floyd: ....With hindsight, we can safely assume this included lots and lots of drugs.


I absolutely fukcing hate morons who always assume Pink Floyd did a lot of drugs. One of the dumbest and lamest of all false assumption/cliches born from ignorance.

Yes.
Syd messed with LSD in the 60s. It did NOT mix well with his already present mental condition.
Gilmour,Wright,Waters and Mason have said throughout their careers that their drug use was marginal.

Idiots always assume creativity that is above their heads must be fueled by narcotics.

 
WeezinTheJuice [TotalFark] 2008-12-07 12:44:41 PM  
Know what I cannot find anywhere except Amazon and Ebay? The score to the movie "The Beach". You want to talk about impossible to locate anywhere, theres your search. No, not the soundtrack, with Sugar Ray. The actual score composed by Angelo Badalamenti.

Only the internet. I cant order it at any record shop. Cant order at Barnes and Noble. Not even Best Buy or Circuit shiatty have it listed on their website.

You cant even find it on a torrent site. Not a single one. Trust me, I dont condone downloading music illegally, but you cant even do THAT with this one.

Any ideas?

 
scarymonsters85 2008-12-07 12:45:20 PM  
it was fueled by alcohol. except in the case of wright, which was fueled by coke, but not until later.

 
andreirublev 2008-12-07 03:28:41 PM  
FeedTheCollapse: I have Pygmalion on CD. It's actually in print again, by the way.

Pygmalion demos.

The "I Saw the Sun" compilation covers a vast majority of the Souvlaki-era demos. I do believe there are a few more, but they're most alternate mixes.


Thank you so very much for that link!

If I believed in god, I'm be so mad at him for letting Rachel Goswell's eardrum problem interfere with her involement in Mojave 3. Beautiful voice, beautiful woman.

 
mahavishnunj 2008-12-07 03:36:29 PM  
Derwood: GILMOUR

GILMOUR

GILMOUR


NOT NOT NOT GILMORE


you sure?

farm3.static.flickr.com

/great guitarist

 
sound of a douchebag hitting the floor 2008-12-07 05:11:15 PM  
Well, the Brian Wilson song referenced in the article can be found here.

It's incredibly awful. Or maybe Brian just wanted to suck as much as the other Beach Boys did doing "Wipeout" with the Fat Boys.

 
mtylerjr 2008-12-07 09:36:16 PM  
sound of a douchebag hitting the floor: Well, the Brian Wilson song referenced in the article can be found here.

It's incredibly awful. Or maybe Brian just wanted to suck as much as the other Beach Boys did doing "Wipeout" with the Fat Boys.



Words cannnot describe how horrible that was - even for the 80's

/bookmarked for future "worst song ever" conversations

 
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