He went to Jared!

the_cnidarian: He went to Jared!

Just as long as no one sings, "Five dollar footlooooonnngsss" we'll all be OK.

He will serve in a new position called Chief Economist and Economic Policy Adviser.

Yeah, I was wondering, why does the VP have an economic adviser? I guess none did until now.

picking the vp team must suck-- you get nothing but benchwarmers after the prez has picked through them and soiled most of them.

the_cnidarian: He went to Jared!

If I ever find the person who came up with those commercial I am punching them in the face.

FitzShivering: the_cnidarian: He went to Jared!

Just as long as no one sings, "Five dollar footlooooonnngsss" we'll all be OK.

FIVE.
FIVE DOLLAR.
FIVE DOLLAR FOOT LOOOONG.

god damn you.

the_cnidarian: He went to Jared!

I hate you, and I hate myself for thinking the same thing.

Will Jared have aids?

ToxicMunkee: the_cnidarian: He went to Jared!

I hate you, and I hate myself for thinking the same thing.

My sentiments exactly.

This headline has officially made me lose my marbles for the day. Thank you, subby.

the_cnidarian: He went to Jared!

That should have been the headline.

As long as he stays away from the Freecreditreport.com guys.... I farking hate those guys.

Bad headline for reminding me of Jared. Good headline because Biden is a train freak and probably will try to push subways on Americans.

FTA: Bernstein is a well-known skeptic on free trade and has worked for years as a senior official at EPI, a labor-funded think tank which advocates for low and middle-income workers.

Good thing this guy has no power. Neither does the Veep.

cranberryzero: picking the vp team must suck-- you get nothing but benchwarmers after the prez has picked through them and soiled most of them.

Hell, its so low on the pole (heh) that its people aspiring to warm the bench...some day.

ZAZ: Bad headline for reminding me of Jared. Good headline because Biden is a train freak and probably will try to push subways on Americans.

+1

Sym_pathetic: As long as he stays away from the Freecreditreport.com guys.... I farking hate those guys.

My favorite commercials on TV.

/i'm not kidding

Sym_pathetic: As long as he stays away from the Freecreditreport.com guys.... I farking hate those guys.

Was at a restaurant this summer with live music and they started playing one of their commercials.

Darconix: eddyatwork: the_cnidarian: He went to Jared!

If I ever find the person who came up with those commercial I am punching them in the face.

I find the "Five Dollar Footlongs" jingle guy to be far more insidious than any jewelry jingle I've ever heard.

It's more of a thematic annoyance. The guys that went to Jared are romantic titans; those that did not, buffoons of the highest order.

When Jared seems to be basically a non-mall-store Zales/Kay, it's a bit pretentious, and makes one less likely to shop there, as opposed to wanting to burn the place down.

THATS JAREDDD

The only Jared I would want working for me would be Jared Leto, and he would be my secretary of Hot.

thenateman: FTA: Bernstein is a well-known skeptic on free trade and has worked for years as a senior official at EPI, a labor-funded think tank which advocates for low and middle-income workers.

Good thing this guy has no power. Neither does the Veep.

No shiat. If there is one thing the past 10 years have proven, it is that free trade has stregthened our economy and manufacturing base.

Can't wait to see who Jared chooses as his aids.

FitzShivering: the_cnidarian: He went to Jared!

Just as long as no one sings, "Five dollar footlooooonnngsss" we'll all be OK.

You sir are an ass.

Bill Clinton likes McDonald's, Obama likes Subway.

Well what's George W. Bush's favorite fast food place?

MyRandomName: FitzShivering: the_cnidarian: He went to Jared!

Just as long as no one sings, "Five dollar footlooooonnngsss" we'll all be OK.

You sir are an ass.

Even to myself. I've been singing it since I posted that. Damn me to hell.

PascalsGhost: No shiat. If there is one thing the past 10 years have proven, it is that free trade has stregthened our economy and manufacturing base.

And if there's one thing the UAW has taught us, it's that unions are critical to a business's long-term economic health.

Funk Brothers: Bill Clinton likes McDonald's, Obama likes Subway.

Well what's George W. Bush's favorite fast food place?

Whataburger

PascalsGhost: thenateman: FTA: Bernstein is a well-known skeptic on free trade and has worked for years as a senior official at EPI, a labor-funded think tank which advocates for low and middle-income workers.

Good thing this guy has no power. Neither does the Veep.

No shiat. If there is one thing the past 10 years have proven, it is that free trade has stregthened our economy and manufacturing base.

Which is why we're now bailing out a bunch of foreign car makers and laughing as every other country's stocks fall while ours soar- OH WAIT! We're actually doing exactly the opposite of those things, almost as if the exact opposite of what you said is true!

Gosh, that guy you're agreeing with must feel bad to have your support in this matter. It actually makes him look rather foolish also.

/Took me a second to realize you were being sarcastic
//My sarcasm meter was recently repossessed

thenateman: PascalsGhost: No shiat. If there is one thing the past 10 years have proven, it is that free trade has stregthened our economy and manufacturing base.

And if there's one thing the UAW has taught us, it's that unions are critical to a business's long-term economic health.

LOL.

Yep, fukking unions have done this to us. Fukkers.

Honestly, if it didn't affect me, Americans deserve to fail for being so goddamned stupid.

PascalsGhost: Honestly, if it didn't affect me, Americans deserve to fail for being so goddamned stupid.

Don't worry. We will. And we are.

Americans as a whole are fat, lazy, and not particularly intelligent. The only reason we're '#1' in the world is because we won World War II. We don't really deserve our pedestal; we don't have a natural advantage over anyone. I guess maybe we have a ton of arable land, but that's about it.

thenateman: PascalsGhost: No shiat. If there is one thing the past 10 years have proven, it is that free trade has stregthened our economy and manufacturing base.

And if there's one thing the UAW has taught us, it's that unions are critical to a business's long-term economic health.

Totally. After those union leaders flew their private jets to Washington when they were asking for a bail out I just can't support them anymore. We should give their jobs over to those poor CEOS who're only making a dollar a year.

Scene (interior)

JB1: JB? Yes, JB.
JB2: JB, about this economy thing.
JB1: JB, yes. Tell me about this economy thing.
JB2: Well, JB,

(ring, ring)

JB1: Hello, JB here. Oh hi, JB. (hand over phone) It's my wife.
JB2: Do you want to continue later, JB.
JB1: No. JB. Stick around. (into phone) No, JB, I'm talking to JB.

Shaggy_C: PascalsGhost: Honestly, if it didn't affect me, Americans deserve to fail for being so goddamned stupid.

Don't worry. We will. And we are.

Americans as a whole are fat, lazy, and not particularly intelligent. The only reason we're '#1' in the world is because we won World War II. We don't really deserve our pedestal; we don't have a natural advantage over anyone. I guess maybe we have a ton of arable land, but that's about it.

How we responded to 9/11, I saw what we are. We do not deserve what we have, and the hard justice of the world is going to take it now.

We just gave a trillion dollars, no string attached, to bankers to prop up their fake wealth, and all I hear on the news 24/7 is how the unions are motherfarking taking our tax dollars. And the politicians love it. Keep working people blaming other working people. And the sheep will. But when I want a 5% raise on capital gains, thats class warfare you ingrateful plebe.

I think the big 3 are begging for about 30 billion in loans right now. That's it. Did the bankers have to sit down at all? I don't remember it.

Shaggy_C: PascalsGhost: Honestly, if it didn't affect me, Americans deserve to fail for being so goddamned stupid.

Don't worry. We will. And we are.

Americans as a whole are fat, lazy, and not particularly intelligent. The only reason we're '#1' in the world is because we won World War II. We don't really deserve our pedestal; we don't have a natural advantage over anyone. I guess maybe we have a ton of arable land, but that's about it.

Success in WW2 wasn't the *cause* of American world domination, but was a *result* of having a continent larger than Europe to basically rape for natural resources, along with neighbors who are too weak to either resist us or to be any kind of serious threat... and then being given 150 years all to ourselves off in the corner.

Oh, and FYI... try telling a Russian, a Brit, or a Canadian that America won WW2 all on its lonesome. I'm sure at all certain that they'll be ammused.

PascalsGhost: I think the big 3 are begging for about 30 billion in loans right now. That's it. Did the bankers have to sit down at all? I don't remember it.

We already had a socialized banking industry...well, to be more specific, a corporatist banking industry, as you had the Federal Reserve (government) working hand in hand with the banks (private industry). It's moved now toward socialist as the government actually has an ownership share in the private industry. Not really a big jump if you think about it.

Now, partly nationalized vehicle production? That's a new step, even for us.

General Zang: Oh, and FYI... try telling a Russian, a Brit, or a Canadian that America won WW2 all on its lonesome. I'm sure at all certain that they'll be ammused.

I don't mean 'won' in terms of doing it on our own, I mean 'won' as in taking the least amount of damage while inflicting the most. The American mainland was never once attacked aside from a few Japanese balloon bombs. Compare that to Russia or Great Britain, who, although being on the 'winning' side, still suffered greatly to do so. We won on the economic front as well as the military front, which was what I was trying to point out.

Shaggy_C: General Zang: Oh, and FYI... try telling a Russian, a Brit, or a Canadian that America won WW2 all on its lonesome. I'm sure at all certain that they'll be ammused.

I don't mean 'won' in terms of doing it on our own, I mean 'won' as in taking the least amount of damage while inflicting the most. The American mainland was never once attacked aside from a few Japanese balloon bombs. Compare that to Russia or Great Britain, who, although being on the 'winning' side, still suffered greatly to do so. We won on the economic front as well as the military front, which was what I was trying to point out.

Oh, well, true.

When did you become so reasonable, and actually knowlegeable?

Weren't you a troll before? Isn't some sort of rule that you have to change your screen name when giving up on the troll personna?

General Zang: When did you become so reasonable, and actually knowlegeable?

Weren't you a troll before? Isn't some sort of rule that you have to change your screen name when giving up on the troll personna?

I haven't 'trolled' since maybe February, and I've always thought alts are for pansies. I would like to think most of my posts are pretty reasonable, if for nothing else because they call out things that most people don't care to think about. I'm just overly bitter sometimes I guess :)

Shaggy_C: General Zang: When did you become so reasonable, and actually knowlegeable?

Weren't you a troll before? Isn't some sort of rule that you have to change your screen name when giving up on the troll personna?

I haven't 'trolled' since maybe February, and I've always thought alts are for pansies. I would like to think most of my posts are pretty reasonable, if for nothing else because they call out things that most people don't care to think about. I'm just overly bitter sometimes I guess :)

Bull. You were trolling well into October. If I remember you even invoked William Ayers right up until the end. And as I pointed out to you at the time it was pointless becuase there's always a glut of trolls during election years and you weren't doing a really exceptional job of it. I am glad to see you're back to normal, though. It was a real headache.

Shaggy_C: PascalsGhost: I think the big 3 are begging for about 30 billion in loans right now. That's it. Did the bankers have to sit down at all? I don't remember it.

We already had a socialized banking industry...well, to be more specific, a corporatist banking industry, as you had the Federal Reserve (government) working hand in hand with the banks (private industry). It's moved now toward socialist as the government actually has an ownership share in the private industry. Not really a big jump if you think about it.

Now, partly nationalized vehicle production? That's a new step, even for us.

Our banking system is socialized. Nationalizing the banks would be a step up from where we are. This was simply a handout. A trillion dollar handout.

Take 30 billion and loan it to the big 3. Or nationalize it. The money to the banks helped nobody but shareholders and the banks. Few jobs were saved, as the banks were not forced to lend any money as part of the deal, and they haven't. Capital is still frozen.


You can give that to the banks, give a 30-40 billion loan to the autos. Jobs are getting worse. We lose those, we are truely fukked. People don't think it is there problem, but it is.

Falcc: Bull. You were trolling well into October. If I remember you even invoked William Ayers right up until the end.

I thought we were having a calm, rational discussion about that push poll and whether or not one could say Obama really 'launched' his political career in his house. I was saying it wasn't a totally unfair characterization. I think everything just gets blown out of proportion during the elections.

PascalsGhost: Our banking system is socialized. Nationalizing the banks would be a step up from where we are. This was simply a handout. A trillion dollar handout.

Not exactly. The money was used to buy either ownership shares in the banks or to purchase assets with declining value. Blame the Federal Reserve; fractional reserve banking gives us both the highs and the lows. Not bailing them out would be a lot worse.

ZAZ: Bad headline for reminding me of Jared. Good headline because Biden is a train freak and probably will try to push subways on Americans.

I spent 80$ a month and and have unlimited travel in the greatest city in the world.

My brother, an hour upstate, spends 80$ every 5 days for gas for his job.

Yeah, subways are just awful aren't they?

eddyatwork: the_cnidarian: He went to Jared!

If I ever find the person who came up with those commercial I am punching them in the face.


I'll be second in line, ready to kick them in the junk.

/Took my SO to Jared a few weeks ago (promised her some jewelry for her b-day).
//Ran into a former neighbor who pressured me into buying my g/f an engagement ring.
///Showed us a few that were $9,000+
////Ugh.
//Fortunately, she doesn't want anything that expensive....not even close.

I spent 80$ a month and and have unlimited travel in the greatest city in the world.

You live in the only place in America where transit is practical. Due to high population density the government only has to pay about $100 on top of your $80 to move you around.

In the Boston area, your $80 month would be enabled by $150 in operating cost subsidy plus $100 or so in construction cost subsidy.

Pope_of_Chilitown: Funk Brothers: Bill Clinton likes McDonald's, Obama likes Subway.

Well what's George W. Bush's favorite fast food place?

Whataburger

I've seen Whataburger before in Arizona once before with their orange, white, and blue roofs. I wished I had tried their burgers.

PascalsGhost: Shaggy_C: PascalsGhost: I think the big 3 are begging for about 30 billion in loans right now. That's it. Did the bankers have to sit down at all? I don't remember it.

We already had a socialized banking industry...well, to be more specific, a corporatist banking industry, as you had the Federal Reserve (government) working hand in hand with the banks (private industry). It's moved now toward socialist as the government actually has an ownership share in the private industry. Not really a big jump if you think about it.

Now, partly nationalized vehicle production? That's a new step, even for us.

Our banking system is socialized. Nationalizing the banks would be a step up from where we are. This was simply a handout. A trillion dollar handout.

Take 30 billion and loan it to the big 3. Or nationalize it. The money to the banks helped nobody but shareholders and the banks. Few jobs were saved, as the banks were not forced to lend any money as part of the deal, and they haven't. Capital is still frozen.


You can give that to the banks, give a 30-40 billion loan to the autos. Jobs are getting worse. We lose those, we are truely fukked. People don't think it is there problem, but it is.

I wonder the why Senators from Ford, Chrysler, and GM are so much less powerful than the Senators from HugeCentralBank. I don't get it.

Money for the bankers, here you go, no problem, no strings. Money for the car guys, what? We want you to grovel more, and we need a plan.

Erebus1954: I wonder the why Senators from Ford, Chrysler, and GM are so much less powerful than the Senators from HugeCentralBank. I don't get it.

Money for the bankers, here you go, no problem, no strings. Money for the car guys, what? We want you to grovel more, and we need a plan.

Well, the banks hired a Treasury Secretary to plead their case. It costs a little more, but it really makes the difference.