Maybe mentioning God too much is why the country is farked.

I think this is a repeat, but I'd be happy to call this guy a douche again.

I think Harry Reid said it best. (new window)

Well, this dude is clearly reasonable.

In God We Trust, all others pay cash.

Okay how's this.

For the love of God, the blessed Virgin, and all things holy SHUT YOUR YAMMERING PIE-HOLE!

Any mention of god in a government building is too much mention of god.

I should add that, because of his disrespect for the separation clause of the first amendment, Senator Jim DeMint is violating his oath to protect and defend the Constitution.

Clearly, the fiscally conservative thing to do is to sell the naming rights to the visitor center to God.

DeMint, who was joined in his silly protest by Republican Senators Roger Wicker of Mississippi and Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, has managed to strong-arm the Visitor Center into plastering over "E. Pluribus Unum," changing the motto to "In God We Trust" and committing to add the Pledge of Allegiance to the displays.

Do they mean that literally? As in they completely removed the national motto created during the Revolutionary War and accepted by the Founding Fathers and replaced it with a Bullshiat McCarthyist phrase barely 50 years old?

Coonts, one and all...

Someone desperately wants a cockpunch.

They could plaster it with quotes by Thomas Paine, a prominent revolutionary figure and one of the most widely read authors of the time.

He mentioned God plenty. Heh.

The Icelander: I should add that, because of his disrespect for the separation clause of the first amendment, Senator Jim DeMint is violating his oath to protect and defend the Constitution.

He shall be flayed, drawn and quartered, and stoned immediately.

kagemaru026: He shall be flayed, drawn and quartered, and stoned immediately.

No, we'll save that for witches, gays and disobedient children.

Lionel Mandrake: As in they completely removed the national motto created during the Revolutionary War and accepted by the Founding Fathers and replaced it with a Bullshiat McCarthyist phrase barely 50 years old?

Coonts, one and all...

Sadly, rewriting history is a favorite hobby of zealots the world over.

Who voted/lobbied for this $651 million to be spent? really wondering, gonna go look it up.

It doesn't mention Reagan?

FTA: wanted the original national motto of "E. Pluribus Unum" -- "from many, one" in Latin -- replaced with "In God We Trust."

Neither seems to apply to America anymore.

Lionel Mandrake: they completely removed the national motto created during the Revolutionary War and accepted by the Founding Fathers and replaced it with a Bullshiat McCarthyist phrase barely 50 years old?

Perhaps we could build a Capitol visitor-center visitor center nearby that explains this sort of thing to visitors?

The Icelander: I should add that, because of his disrespect for the separation clause of the first amendment, Senator Jim DeMint is violating his oath to protect and defend the Constitution.

Man, has that ship sailed. We could sack the entire government on the basis of that argument.

// tempting

whidbey: Someone desperately wants a cockpunch.

Oh, please, could you whip up a good channeling of Skookum for this thread? It could be epic. For old times sake. I miss him.

Because the Pilgrims came to this country to shop at Walmart?

opiumpoopy: Lionel Mandrake: they completely removed the national motto created during the Revolutionary War and accepted by the Founding Fathers and replaced it with a Bullshiat McCarthyist phrase barely 50 years old?

Perhaps we could build a Capitol visitor-center visitor center nearby that explains this sort of thing to visitors?

They could sell this book:

Take your theocracy and go shove it up Yahweh's bi-polar ass!

DeMint is a giant hemorrhoid.

You do realize that the Washington Monument was mostly built from donations, right?

This is the key to the Republican plan to remain a minority party.

Wanting religion in government buildings and such? Lemme see:

South Carolina: check
Oklahoma: check
Mississippi: check


Anyone have their Bingo cards handy? Can't find mine...

Nothing costs too much money if it keeps Harry Reid from having to smell the unwashed masses of tax-payers.

whidbey: Someone desperately wants a cockpunch.

That damn William Penn?

oops- lots of crappy opinions on this from both sides

senate majority leader Harry Reid (D) quote:

"My staff tells me not to say this, but I'm going to say it anyway," said Reid in his remarks. "In the summer because of the heat and high humidity, you could literally smell the tourists coming into the Capitol. It may be descriptive but it's true."

But it's no longer going to be true, noted Reid, thanks to the air conditioned, indoor space.

And that's not all. "We have many bathrooms here, as you can see," Reid continued. "Souvenirs are available."

/$651 million?

God damn it.

FTA: "This is an intentional misrepresentation of our nation's real history, and an offensive refusal to honor America's God-given blessings," said DeMint.

As I recall, God also gave us a king (new window), but the founding fathers didn't think much of that.

F'in Dominionist douche.

cretinbob: Maybe mentioning God too much is why the country is farked.

Or not, you don't have to be christian to admire the ethics of most christians.

beerrun: For old times sake. I miss him.

Well, actually, and I've read this article a couple of times, the man has a very valid concern: that the far left in this country has an agenda of rewriting history to exclude the faithful, without whom this country would have never been founded.

The truth is that we were a Christian nation up until the early 1960s. No one questioned God or the Bible, no one with any credibility, anyway, and the legacy is that God was taken out of the classroom, God was taken out of Government, and to even publicly profess one's faith was seen as some kind of faux pas. This is the culmination of blasphemy, and don't think just because Obama has been elected President (a fluke, really) that you atheists are now "safe," you're not. We'll simply bide our time until Palin is elected in 2012, and rest assured that then you will see your long-awaited comeuppance you've all but begged for us to impose upon you.

/a little rusty

Their Web site (new window) has some nice pictures and a handy FAQ.


8. What is the total cost of the CVC?
The overall project budget is $621 million. That includes a base budget of $265 million for the core visitor center facility, which includes a new truck tunnel and other functional improvements inside the Capitol; $38.5 million for security enhancements (added after 9/11); $70 million added in November 2001 to complete the build-out and finishes in House and Senate expansion space, and $33 million added in April 2003 for other security improvements. In September 2003, Congress appropriated $48 million to accommodate all of the ancillary costs associated with executing the more than $140 million in new construction work added after 9/11, including additional management costs, increases in security requirements and additional contingencies. These funds also covered additional costs incurred during the pre-construction phase of the project and delays related to unforeseen conditions and utility relocation efforts. Congress appropriated additional funds to cover AOC administration and construction management fees, design and construction administration, CVC exhibits, additional contingency, technical security, equipment purchases, and anticipated delay costs for the Sequence 2 contract as a result of the 10-month delay in the Sequence 1 contract.

I need to get in to the "anticipated delay cost" business. Sounds lucrative.

As long as we can't smell Jack Reid, its money well spent.

Conservative does not necessarily mean a reactionary fundamental Christian. This man is not 'conserving' anything - in fact, he is a dangerous radical.

whidbey: Someone desperately wants a cockpunch.

It might be Milkbeer.

/take your lithium

If? I'm pretty sure it is taxpayer money.

I'm just glad to know that I'm paying these guys to work hard on the really important issues that impact my daily life, such as this.

Milkbeer: I think the "godless" are mentally incapable of grasping the concept that NO ONE KNOWS HOW THE F&CK WE GOT HERE. Evolution is the ORIGIN OF SPECIES not the ORIGIN OF LIFE. Get over it, even when backed into a corner, most scientists scramble for some sci-fi fantasy that defines where our DNA is receiving instructions from......

Just because someone puts a face and a robe "God" and offends someone is just stupidity. I'd rather be of a creed that follows God given rights versus Obama given rights.

6/10

The mount was impressive, as the routine, but your landing was sloppy.

whidbey: /a little rust

Not at all. That was spot-on.

Milkbeer: I think the "godless" are mentally incapable of grasping the concept that NO ONE KNOWS HOW THE F&CK WE GOT HERE. Evolution is the ORIGIN OF SPECIES not the ORIGIN OF LIFE. Get over it, even when backed into a corner, most scientists scramble for some sci-fi fantasy that defines where our DNA is receiving instructions from......

Just because someone puts a face and a robe "God" and offends someone is just stupidity. I'd rather be of a creed that follows God given rights versus Obama given rights.

Hey... relax. We're not talking about disbelief in God here, just the separation of church and state.

minoridiot: Because the Pilgrims came to this country to shop at Walmart?

If our nation was founded on the Mayflower Compact of 1620, that would matter. As it is, however, what the Pilgrims did, thought, or represented more than 150 years before the Revolution is worth exactly nothing in this conversation.

Only If there were a place or places in each community were God could be celebrated especially on Sundays.

It's a Capitol Visitor Center
It's a Capitol Visitor Center
It's a Capitol Visitor Center

whidbey: beerrun: For old times sake. I miss him.

Well, actually, and I've read this article a couple of times, the man has a very valid concern: that the far left in this country has an agenda of rewriting history to exclude the faithful, without whom this country would have never been founded.

The truth is that we were a Christian nation up until the early 1960s. No one questioned God or the Bible, no one with any credibility, anyway, and the legacy is that God was taken out of the classroom, God was taken out of Government, and to even publicly profess one's faith was seen as some kind of faux pas. This is the culmination of blasphemy, and don't think just because Obama has been elected President (a fluke, really) that you atheists are now "safe," you're not. We'll simply bide our time until Palin is elected in 2012, and rest assured that then you will see your long-awaited comeuppance you've all but begged for us to impose upon you.

/a little rusty


10/10 Your troll-fu is mighty

RoadRunnr: Milkbeer: I think the "godless" are mentally incapable of grasping the concept that NO ONE KNOWS HOW THE F&CK WE GOT HERE. Evolution is the ORIGIN OF SPECIES not the ORIGIN OF LIFE. Get over it, even when backed into a corner, most scientists scramble for some sci-fi fantasy that defines where our DNA is receiving instructions from......

Just because someone puts a face and a robe "God" and offends someone is just stupidity. I'd rather be of a creed that follows God given rights versus Obama given rights.

Hey... relax. We're not talking about disbelief in God here, just the separation of church and state.


This farking thing has a church in it too?