Excellent. Institute the non-confidence vote after the budget is tabled and let's go to a new election.

Bob_Laublaw: Excellent. Institute the non-confidence vote after the budget is tabled and let's go to a new election.

Ah, but if the Conservatives come up with a decent stimulus package, then the opposition would be foolish to vote down the government. It's all about the economy, don'tcha know.

As an American, I'd just like to say
"What the hell is going on!!?!?!?"

GooberMcFly: It's all about the economy, don'tcha know.

I could have sworn it was petty political manoeuvring.

AliasUndercover: As an American, I'd just like to say
"What the hell is going on!!?!?!?"

Don't ask, don't tell.

You wacky Canadians and your crazy government.

Howabout Canadians simply don't pay taxes until Parliament comes back into action. There's ur economic stimulus package.

Apparently she doesn't have anywhere near the chutzpah that the 1975 Australian GG had =(

Fear will keep them in line.

Serious: Apparently she doesn't have anywhere near the chutzpah that the 1975 Australian GG had =(

But she's DAMN hot. It's the only thing Canucks from coast to coast to coast agree upon.

Hmm. Interesting. Thought we'd see the GG refusing to suspend for the first time.

/Yankee sundenly very interested in Canadian politics - see other thread.

Ouch, this is a bad news for Harper... big time.

/American living in Canada

GooberMcFly: Bob_Laublaw: Excellent. Institute the non-confidence vote after the budget is tabled and let's go to a new election.

Ah, but if the Conservatives come up with a decent stimulus package, then the opposition would be foolish to vote down the government. It's all about the economy, don'tcha know.

Most Canadian businesses don't need a stimulus package (yet) and it's pointless throwing money at the auto industry until the Yanks decide whether it's worth saving the Detroit Three.
Maybe Harper should read some self-help books on how to avoid acting like an arrogant douche-bag during his time-out.

AliasUndercover: As an American, I'd just like to say
"What the hell is going on!!?!?!?"

Well, here's a summary from Norm Macdonald's brother.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/12/03/f-rfa-macdonald.html

He tries to be funny, but is only about as successful at it as is brother usually is. Ignore that part.

So Canada is a dictatorship now?

Why the fark should these assholes get a do-over when they're already proved to be Neroesque in their governance. They'll come back with a "we sowwy" budget and then go on to fark up the country as before.

NO CONFIDENCE.

Well it's ok with me.

As long as it's not a Leafs sweater.

/Nostalgia for Canadians
//Oh how I hated that Leafs sweater

Canadian civil war? Quebec to use the chaos as an opportunity to secede? A Balkan-type region to America's north? We need to get some C-130s in there ASAP and bring out all the poutine, Harvey's and Labatt's we can get our hands on.

WTF?

AliasUndercover: As an American, I'd just like to say
"What the hell is going on!!?!?!?"

As a Canadian ... I wish I knew. Personally I pissed off at all of them for not working through this. I'm voting Marxist or something next time around...

randompeskar: You wacky Canadians and your crazy government.

We maybe crazy.. but at least we would have had a chance of booting out Bush

Having said that the last thing we need right now is another election and another stalemated government.

So, this is how liberty dies. To thunderous applause.

Go Canada! Harper is playing a dirty trick to get out of this when he should have been willing to compromise with the other parties from the start because it was a minority from the start. Now we will waste more time and an election will probably which will be another 300 million dollars wasted.

Canadian Wool

Arch Stanton: Having said that the last thing we need right now is another election and another stalemated government.

Disagreed. I think the last thing we need in a recession is an unelected coalition backed by regional seperatists.

And we never suspended the freakin Congress.

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please: We need to get some C-130s in there ASAP and bring out all the poutine, Harvey's and Labatt's we can get our hands on.

Leave all that crap. Just bring the strippers from Montreal and as many Cuban cigars you can fit in your carry on.

AliasUndercover: As an American, I'd just like to say
"What the hell is going on!!?!?!?"

I'll followup with, "What the fark, Canada?"

Pete and Repete are in the Canadian Parliament.

Oh for crying out loud.

You know what? Fark Harper. Fark him right in the farking neck. We now have no government for 2 months. Right at the fiscal year-end, and the beginning of the 2009 calendar year, there is no one at the wheel. No budget, no economic stimulus, no changes at all. Nothing. As far as the Canadian budget goes, we're stuck in the same situation we've had since this past summer, BEFORE the economy cratered.

All to save the turkey-wobbling neck of this a**hole. We just saw our PM put his ambition to have his backside warm the chair in his office, ahead of the entire country's economic well-being. Stephen Harper is a selfish, cowardly mound of human filth and offal.

You know, I really hope that if all of these people that planned on protesting on Saturday were REALLY defenders of democracy and legality and all that airy-fairy stuff, that they'd be planning on protesting what Harper just did.

By the logic of this group, Harper just CANCELED DEMOCRACY.

You get that? He woke up this morning, said "You know what? F*ck the democratic process. We need some time apart", and the GG just allowed it to happen. In the meantime, jobs are being shed like skirts backstage at a Motley Crüe concert, and there is jack squat being done about Canada's energy and infrastructure problem - and more importantly, its employment problem.

Anyone not ashamed by this should be ashamed of themselves.

evilpup: So Canada is a dictatorship now?

My understanding (not 100% sure) is that the GG reports to the Queen. So, Monarchy is probably more accurate.

I understand the reason for all our (American) arcane procedures, because the way the government works now is very different from the way it was designed to, but I never really knew much about how Canada works; I guess one good thing about this is that now I have a better idea.

AliasUndercover: As an American, I'd just like to say
"What the hell is going on!!?!?!?"

I learned a lot in the last thread, so I'll try to educate you on the government of our northern friends:

The Canadian Bacon party is the largest of the parties in power, and therefor select a PM (no primaries). The other parties formed a coalition (the Metric Party, the Curling Party, and the Maple Party) because, while on their own they have less members in parliament, combined they have far more.

Canadian Bacon doesn't like this, so Harper goes to the Google Group (which is appointed by Queen, although I'm not sure which surviving member) to suspend the Parliament until they push a budget through.

Also, Canadian Bacon supporters view the actions of this new coalition as "illegal" somehow, since they are creating a majority that technically wasn't voted into power.

The Google Group sided with Canadian Bacon and agreed to do Prostitution, which apparently means something else entirely up there.

Anyway, if the coalition can get a non-confidence vote to go through, Harper and company lose power. Harper and company don't want to lose power, and the non-confidence vote looks likely, so that is why they are going this route.

I hope this helps.

Bob_Laublaw:
Excellent. Institute the non-confidence vote after the budget is tabled and let's go to a new election.

No, let the coalition form a government. Another election at this point would be an idiotic waste of taxpayers' money. Working together, the coalition parties represent the majority of Canadians. There's no decent reason not to let them try to govern together.

Harper saying ..."the public is very frustrated with the situation in Parliament. We're all responsible for that." is the equivalent of that movie character who always says "Mistakes were made, let's not jump to conclusions" when everything goes awry and it's totally their fault.

Incidentally, the Alberta douche nozzle faction being upset at "separatists being in the government" are WHARRGARBL. They're just as anti-federal as the BQ, yet they looooove having power in Ottawa, in the form of their pointy-headed kitten molester Harper. They're just acting in the usual Neo-Con foot-stamping spoiled child mode when things don't go their way.

So what just happened. Did somebody get pwned by the Queen?

/American, obviously.

Now is the perfect time to strike!

I have no idea what this headline means. Can someone make it American?

H31N0US: please: We need to get some C-130s in there ASAP and bring out all the poutine, Harvey's and Labatt's we can get our hands on.

Leave all that crap. Just bring the strippers from Montreal and as many Cuban cigars you can fit in your carry on.

Your plan; I like it better then mine.

dennysgod: Pete and Repete are in the Canadian Parliament.

Not a repeat, the other thread was about Harper's request. The fact that the GG did it is news in itself.

evilpup: So Canada is a dictatorship now?

No, apparently it's an anarcho-syndicalist commune. They take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.

Must be someone else's turn.

Boom goes Quebec's fledgling support of Conservatives.

Did you guys hear the way he treated the Bloc in his speech? He flatly said that Quebec's elected representatives have no legitimacy. Good way to make friends in Alberta,not so good here in Quebec.

Like a game of street hockey, Mum came out of the house - told all the boys to go home and come back later when they've cooled off.
This will give the opposition time to sharpen the blades.

Not this shiat again.. Please western provinces. Can't we separate now, before X-mas?


And Manitoba could join us. I guess.

Quit feeding the eastern machine of welfare and kickbacks.
Yes the Maritimes are eastern.

Bob_Laublaw:
Excellent. Institute the non-confidence vote after the budget is tabled and let's go to a new election.

Oh yes, AWESOME plan. The world is in the midst of the worst financial crisis in two generations and the GG says "Hey guys, let's bring the Canadian government to a grinding halt for the next 3.5 months (2 for the prorogue, 1.5 for the election to follow).

How many businesses will fail in those 3.5 months? How many people will lose their jobs? How many will lose homes? All because Harper is a dick who saw the crisis as a means to try and cut the Opposition's throats collectively instead of acting on his promise during the election to work with everyone for the benefit of Canadians.

Oh, Canada / A great big empty land / We look to America / For a helping hand / With bannock bread / and caribou eggs / The True North big and cold Brrrr / Oh Canada / we are on top / We're close to / The North Pole / Fermez la bouche / Mangez poutine / Ca-Na-Da / A lovely winter dream / Oh Canada / La / La / Laaa! Hello Canada!

No Such Agency: Incidentally, the Alberta douche nozzle faction being upset at "separatists being in the government" are WHARRGARBL. They're just as anti-federal as the BQ, yet they looooove having power in Ottawa, in the form of their pointy-headed kitten molester Harper.

Of course, because all Albertans are Conservatives. I read that in the G&M, so it's a fact:)

They're just acting in the usual Neo-Con foot-stamping spoiled child mode when things don't go their way.

But for the Neo-con ref, you've described southern Ontario and Quebec.

I'm ashamed of our government today.

Bob_Laublaw: Arch Stanton: Having said that the last thing we need right now is another election and another stalemated government.

Disagreed. I think the last thing we need in a recession is an unelected coalition backed by regional seperatists.

Unelected? How did those MPs get into parliment then? Quit destroying my country with your lies.

Don't mince words, GWShenlong05. Tell us how you REALLY feel.