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(TheBulletin) Followup Ziegler, asked why Zogby backed off a similar poll of McCain voters: "He was afraid the results of a poll of McCain voters would confirm that they were more knowledgeable of the issues and the candidate than Obama voters"   (thebulletin.us) divider line 122
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Saborlas [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 12:38:41 PM  
Ziegler, asked why Zogby backed off a similar poll of McCain voters: "WHARRGARBL"

 
legendary [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 12:46:43 PM  
It was probably pretty easy to keep track of McCain's standing on most issues.

Bomb
Cut taxes

 
Lando Lincoln [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 12:50:09 PM  
"The issues?" Were these actual policy issues? God no. "The issues" were all about Wright and Ayers and the other bullshiat that did not matter one goddamn bit. Real important "issues" that these voters didn't pay attention to.

 
sigdiamond2000 [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 12:52:16 PM  
It's hilarious how, in the 4-year span since 2004, John Zogby has gone from being an America-hating Muslin terrorist who was in the tank for John Kerry, to an intrepid citizen-patriot standing up to the diabolical liberal mainstream MSM media, and now back to being a Godless communist shill for the ObamaNation.

 
palladiate [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 01:13:40 PM  
sigdiamond2000: It's hilarious how, in the 4-year span since 2004, John Zogby has gone from being an America-hating Muslin terrorist who was in the tank for John Kerry, to an intrepid citizen-patriot standing up to the diabolical liberal mainstream MSM media, and now back to being a Godless communist shill for the ObamaNation.

The one constant? He favored the guy who lost.

 
Cagey B [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 01:17:08 PM  
Whatever. This changes no one's mind. The only thing this guy will accomplish will be to reinforce the beliefs of the "MUSLIM birth certificate Marxist HURRR HURRR" crowd and take their money.

It's not like Zogby has some sort of reputation to uphold at this point.

 
RandomExcess 2008-12-04 01:19:49 PM  
McCain supporters fall into at least one of three BIG categories.
(B)igoted
(I)gnorant
(G)reedy

Please offer any counter example.

 
bulldg4life [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 01:25:51 PM  
I'm amazed at the number of family members and friends of my parents that repeat the findings of that poll with the certain understanding that it should be held up as the sole final proof of just how stupid democrats are

 
Lionel Mandrake [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 01:28:35 PM  
My research indicates that 99% of McCain voters are whiny, butthurt children. The remaining 1% realize that McCain was a bad campaigner and Sarah Palin is a clueless, vindictive, no-talent bimbo.

 
cretinbob [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 01:55:42 PM  
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Occam's Chainsaw [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 02:06:34 PM  
palladiate: The one constant? He favored the guy who lost.

DING DING DING.

Zogby doesn't suck because of ideology, Zogby sucks because they can't conduct a poll that's worth a shiat. A 20 point one-week swing is all the proof you need.

 
seventypercent [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 03:04:26 PM  
It's hilarious that the Obamanistas ignored real campaign issues like Wright, Ayers, Rezko, Father Pflager, Farakkhan, Michelle's "Whitey" tape, and his non-citizenship and instead focused on things like the economy, education, international affairs, and all of that homo / Jew stuff.

 
namatad [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 03:05:12 PM  
McCain voters did poorly on the Keating Five question

HAHAHA
but they are the knowledgeable ones ??

sooooo
is it possible that people voted for the crook that they dont know instead of the crook they know?

and is anyone in the universe surprised that fox viewers voted right and msnbc viewers voted left?

/lawl

 
Fart_Machine 2008-12-04 04:19:45 PM  
Would it have the same bullshait questions they used for their 12 person "poll"?

 
HotWingConspiracy [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 04:21:04 PM  
This is so awesome. These people are going to blow out their misplaced anger gland before the guy is even inaugurated.

 
odinsposse 2008-12-04 04:23:41 PM  
This is just embarrassing for Ziegler now. If I were a Republican I would be writing letters to this guy telling him to shut the hell up.

 
someonelse 2008-12-04 04:24:16 PM  
HotWingConspiracy: This is so awesome. These people are going to blow out their misplaced anger gland before the guy is even inaugurated.

They really ought to switch over to their left hands for a while.

 
vernonFL [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 04:24:21 PM  
They didn't like the answers, so they went after the questioner.

The questions sucked.

Of course people who don't read World Net Daily don't know Obama is a secret Muslim who wasn't even born here.

 
PanicMan 2008-12-04 04:24:42 PM  
I don't say this very often, but fark this guy. His methodology sucks, and his questions suck. His results are invalid. This guy is a douche. And it's not my fault this guy is a douche, I'm just pointing it out.

 
Hollie Maea 2008-12-04 04:25:01 PM  
Yeah, John Ziegler doesn't live in Reality Land. If you want some laughs, read his interview with Nate Silver. The guy sounds like a paranoid schizophrenic.

 
you are a puppet 2008-12-04 04:26:33 PM  
palladiate: sigdiamond2000: It's hilarious how, in the 4-year span since 2004, John Zogby has gone from being an America-hating Muslin terrorist who was in the tank for John Kerry, to an intrepid citizen-patriot standing up to the diabolical liberal mainstream MSM media, and now back to being a Godless communist shill for the ObamaNation.

The one constant? He favored the guy who lost.


Constant? Lost?
scifi-guy.com

 
RemyDuron 2008-12-04 04:28:20 PM  
So he was a afraid it might prove or disprove his hypothesis? WOW! Someone missed a few Science classes.

 
NeverDrunk23 2008-12-04 04:28:45 PM  
HotWingConspiracy: This is so awesome. These people are going to blow out their misplaced anger gland before the guy is even inaugurated.

And they are already blaming Obama for everything, and he's not even in office yet. They freak out over choice he makes for his administration and scream about how 'THAT'S NOT CHANGE!!!' while that is what they mocked him for during the election. Hell, some of the trolls on this very site today sound like they are at desperation and are going to pop a blood vessel.

They are out of their freaking minds.

 
RemyDuron 2008-12-04 04:28:56 PM  
you are a puppet: palladiate: sigdiamond2000: It's hilarious how, in the 4-year span since 2004, John Zogby has gone from being an America-hating Muslin terrorist who was in the tank for John Kerry, to an intrepid citizen-patriot standing up to the diabolical liberal mainstream MSM media, and now back to being a Godless communist shill for the ObamaNation.

The one constant? He favored the guy who lost.

Constant? Lost?


And a win to you, sir!

 
Kit Carson 2008-12-04 04:30:09 PM  
McCain supporters fall into at least one of three BIG categories.
(B)igoted
(I)gnorant
(G)reedy

Please offer any counter example.


Still trying to make up your mind?


 
haplo53 2008-12-04 04:32:07 PM  
Hollie Maea: If you want some laughs, read his interview with Nate Silver.

I was about to ask if this was the same guy who got pwned by Nate Silver.

 
deeproy 2008-12-04 04:33:00 PM  
The Philadelphia Bulletin: For when the Washington Times just isn't bastshiat crazy enough.

 
pacified 2008-12-04 04:33:52 PM  
Waaamublance for this guy.

 
Renart 2008-12-04 04:36:40 PM  
The LOL WHUT pear's presence is requested.

 
Shaggy_C 2008-12-04 04:37:33 PM  

 
Hoopido 2008-12-04 04:40:02 PM  
RandomExcess: McCain supporters fall into at least one of three BIG categories.
(B)igoted
(I)gnorant
(G)reedy

Please offer any counter example.


You embody all three and forgot hypocrisy.

 
Dwight_Yeast 2008-12-04 04:43:20 PM  
deeproy: The Philadelphia Bulletin: For when the Washington Times just isn't bastshiat crazy enough.

Which is a shame, as the Bulletin was a great American newspaper.

...until it went out of business in 1982. I don't know how these wackjobs got a hold of the name, but they should be punished for sullying the reputation of the dead.

 
Biological Ali 2008-12-04 04:43:29 PM  
Renart: The LOL WHUT pear's presence is requested.

Someone made a LOLWUTGARBL shoop a while back... I think that would be more appropriate. Equal parts LOL WUT, equal parts wharrgarbl.

 
Aexia 2008-12-04 04:44:33 PM  
You need only read Ziegler's interview with Nate Silver to see what a mouth-breathing loony-toon he is.

 
Cup_O_Jo 2008-12-04 04:45:58 PM  
It's funny cause it's true...

 
Sir Roderick Ponce von Fontlebottom 2008-12-04 04:46:19 PM  
RandomExcess McCain supporters fall into at least one of three BIG categories.(B)igoted(I)gnorant(G)reedy. Please offer any counter example.

(U)nconvinced that Obama is the best candidate.
(A)theists who won't vote for a man who said "We worship an awsome God in the blue states", and has a decades long streak of pandering to religious kooks.
(M)oderates who want the most centric candidate
(H)ealthy people who don't want to pay for everybody else's health care
(D)isturbed by the excessive, fanatical, unreasoning support of Oboma's cult-like supporters
(R)ead Machiaveli's "The Prince" and see that Obama is just another manipulative career politician
(I)ndependant thinkers who didn't let the shameless media bias influence us
(A)l Gore supporters
(N)ader supporters
(P)eople who remember that Bush ran using the exact same rhetoric about "Change", "Unity" and "Restoring honor and dignity to the Whitehouse".
(I)nsulted by the implication that John McCain and George Bush are the exact same person.
(N)ever got an answer to "Change what, and how?"
(S)aw the "57 states" clip
(W)ould never go to Bill Ayers house
(W)ould never go to Reverend Wright's church
(D)on't have any illegal immigrant relatives living in public housing.
(W)on't benefit from wealth redistribution (And understand no-one else will in the long run)
(O)ffended by being called ignorant, greedy, bigots frightened into clinging to guns and religion

 
Rapmaster2000 2008-12-04 04:47:14 PM  
tomshakely.com

What percentage is nearly everybody?

 
Mrstupid7 2008-12-04 04:48:13 PM  
I swear to god this is a repeat and the first several posts were exactly the same.

 
Hollie Maea 2008-12-04 04:48:56 PM  
Hoopido: You embody all three and forgot hypocrisy.

Ah yes. The venerable "I know you are but what am I?" argument.

 
All2morrowsparTs 2008-12-04 04:49:59 PM  
Sir Roderick Ponce von Fontlebottom: RandomExcess McCain supporters fall into at least one of three BIG categories.(B)igoted(I)gnorant(G)reedy. Please offer any counter example.

(U)nconvinced that Obama is the best candidate.
(A)theists who won't vote for a man who said "We worship an awsome God in the blue states", and has a decades long streak of pandering to religious kooks.
(M)oderates who want the most centric candidate
(H)ealthy people who don't want to pay for everybody else's health care
(D)isturbed by the excessive, fanatical, unreasoning support of Oboma's cult-like supporters
(R)ead Machiaveli's "The Prince" and see that Obama is just another manipulative career politician
(I)ndependant thinkers who didn't let the shameless media bias influence us
(A)l Gore supporters
(N)ader supporters
(P)eople who remember that Bush ran using the exact same rhetoric about "Change", "Unity" and "Restoring honor and dignity to the Whitehouse".
(I)nsulted by the implication that John McCain and George Bush are the exact same person.
(N)ever got an answer to "Change what, and how?"
(S)aw the "57 states" clip
(W)ould never go to Bill Ayers house
(W)ould never go to Reverend Wright's church
(D)on't have any illegal immigrant relatives living in public housing.
(W)on't benefit from wealth redistribution (And understand no-one else will in the long run)
(O)ffended by being called ignorant, greedy, bigots frightened into clinging to guns and religion


Yah this is just as silly as Ziegler's assertions.

 
Rapmaster2000 2008-12-04 04:50:28 PM  
Cup_O_Jo: It's funny cause it's true...

Damn right. The people I agree with are smart and the people who I don't agree with are stupid!!! This is an informed, intelligent opinion that displays our wisdom.

 
Cup_O_Jo 2008-12-04 04:50:40 PM  
Sir Roderick Ponce von Fontlebottom Claps. That was pretty much about it. Except for the health care part. I am on disability..I keep telling people they DO NOT want government health care..NO REALLY. It's a last resort.

 
Corvus 2008-12-04 04:51:19 PM  
FTFA:McCain voters did poorly on the Keating Five question and, in general, the voters did universally worse on questions where the negative information was about their candidate.

Oh so if you compare apples to apples then it was similar, but try to hide that fact.

 
Cup_O_Jo 2008-12-04 04:52:49 PM  
Rapmaster2000 I wish it were that simple. But it was more like..Ok explain it to me. And then Obama supporter goes nuts about how you are such an asshole. Or your momma eats dicks. So apparently the change is everyone is going to be a 5 year old. Which is great as Obama sits back and changes NOTHING MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAA.

 
HotWingConspiracy [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 04:53:08 PM  
Sir Roderick Ponce von Fontlebottom: RandomExcess McCain supporters fall into at least one of three BIG categories.(B)igoted(I)gnorant(G)reedy. Please offer any counter example.

(U)nconvinced that Obama is the best candidate.
(A)theists who won't vote for a man who said "We worship an awsome God in the blue states", and has a decades long streak of pandering to religious kooks.
(M)oderates who want the most centric candidate
(H)ealthy people who don't want to pay for everybody else's health care
(D)isturbed by the excessive, fanatical, unreasoning support of Oboma's cult-like supporters
(R)ead Machiaveli's "The Prince" and see that Obama is just another manipulative career politician
(I)ndependant thinkers who didn't let the shameless media bias influence us
(A)l Gore supporters
(N)ader supporters
(P)eople who remember that Bush ran using the exact same rhetoric about "Change", "Unity" and "Restoring honor and dignity to the Whitehouse".
(I)nsulted by the implication that John McCain and George Bush are the exact same person.
(N)ever got an answer to "Change what, and how?"
(S)aw the "57 states" clip
(W)ould never go to Bill Ayers house
(W)ould never go to Reverend Wright's church
(D)on't have any illegal immigrant relatives living in public housing.
(W)on't benefit from wealth redistribution (And understand no-one else will in the long run)
(O)ffended by being called ignorant, greedy, bigots frightened into clinging to guns and religion


(W)hining losers

 
Sandor at the Zoo 2008-12-04 04:54:29 PM  
Sir Roderick Ponce von Fontlebottom: RandomExcess McCain supporters fall into at least one of three BIG categories.(B)igoted(I)gnorant(G)reedy. Please offer any counter example.

(U)nconvinced that Obama is the best candidate.
(A)theists who won't vote for a man who said "We worship an awsome God in the blue states", and has a decades long streak of pandering to religious kooks.
(M)oderates who want the most centric candidate
(H)ealthy people who don't want to pay for everybody else's health care
(D)isturbed by the excessive, fanatical, unreasoning support of Oboma's cult-like supporters
(R)ead Machiaveli's "The Prince" and see that Obama is just another manipulative career politician
(I)ndependant thinkers who didn't let the shameless media bias influence us
(A)l Gore supporters
(N)ader supporters
(P)eople who remember that Bush ran using the exact same rhetoric about "Change", "Unity" and "Restoring honor and dignity to the Whitehouse".
(I)nsulted by the implication that John McCain and George Bush are the exact same person.
(N)ever got an answer to "Change what, and how?"
(S)aw the "57 states" clip
(W)ould never go to Bill Ayers house
(W)ould never go to Reverend Wright's church
(D)on't have any illegal immigrant relatives living in public housing.
(W)on't benefit from wealth redistribution (And understand no-one else will in the long run)
(O)ffended by being called ignorant, greedy, bigots frightened into clinging to guns and religion


That was an awful lot of WHARRGARBL offered in response to a relatively small amount of WHARRGARBL.

 
Cup_O_Jo 2008-12-04 04:54:35 PM  
HotWingConspiracy Except we are not whining. And saying Whiny Losers just proves the point. So thank ya.

 
Mighty Taternuts 2008-12-04 04:55:05 PM  
Sir Roderick Ponce von Fontlebottom: Reasons to Support McCain over Obama:

(W)right made him a lunatic christian
(H)e is a sekret muslin
(A)gainst guns and straight people
(R)eally against rich people
(R)eally, really for lazy welfare queens having abortions for fun
(G)od hates him and loves McCain
(A) turrist lover who wants to blow our enemies
(R)eal americans don't vote demorat
(B)arock is not a citizen
(L)iebruls hate this country


/now with more freeper

 
MFL 2008-12-04 04:56:26 PM  
Wow.

This wouldn't be news outside of farkland. It's pretty much common knowledge.

 
Corn_Fed 2008-12-04 04:56:28 PM  
That attention whore needs to DIAF.

He was such a failure at his previous job as a rightwing extremist kook on AM talkradio that his own station (KFI) refused to let him broadcast from their studios, and he was forced to do his show from a broom closet at an outside facility.

 
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