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(Boston Globe) Interesting Biggest democratic loser of the 2008 election? It just might be John "I Got A Rock" Kerry   (boston.com) divider line 45
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tweekster 2008-12-04 12:08:45 PM  
Who?

 
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 12:11:09 PM  
What's next, Dennis Kucinich as secretary of labor?

He would have been good for a position. If only so that we'd see more of his hot wife.

 
priestrape 2008-12-04 12:11:39 PM  
good

he's a useless twat

 
Masterstuff 2008-12-04 12:12:06 PM  
AAUGH!

/I lol'd
//Good grief...

 
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 12:12:21 PM  
Back in Massachusetts, Kerry took most of the heat for the Obama endorsement. An enraged contingent of Bay State women for Clinton badgered Kerry for his failure to back their candidate. They were so angry, the women helped a Democratic rival win enough votes at the state convention to earn a spot on the ballot. As a result, Kerry faced his first primary challenger in 24 years.


Hahahahaha, he got cheesecaked.

 
Lando Lincoln [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 12:14:08 PM  
It's pretty amazing Kerry has gotten as far as he has.

 
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 12:15:06 PM  
During their showdown, he said, "What exactly is this foreign policy expertise? Was she negotiating treaties? Was she handling crises? The answer is no." Now he calls her "an American of tremendous stature who will have my complete confidence, who knows many of the world's leaders, who will command respect in her capital and who will clearly have the ability to advance our interests around the world.

I support Obama, but I can't help but feel frustrated that Hillary got the Secretary of State gig. I mean, I know he needs to neuter her chances of a 2012 bid against him and keeping friends close and enemies closer and all that but...damn.

 
MacEnvy [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 12:15:17 PM  
He's only announced half of his cabinet thus far, so this article is either wrong or a month too early to be published.

 
Diogenes [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 12:15:36 PM  
Yep. Definitely demoted to footnote.

 
oregoncat 2008-12-04 12:15:45 PM  
I'm pretty sure he'll be happy with his consolation prize chairing the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

 
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 12:16:37 PM  
By embracing a rival, he neutralized a potential opponent, and, hopefully, silenced her husband, the former president.


Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

*gasp*

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yea.....suuuuuuure.

 
fawlty 2008-12-04 12:16:47 PM  
I hate the farker (meaning Obamayomama) so I'll guess he'll come over to the house and mow my lawn.

 
Jim_Callahan 2008-12-04 12:19:35 PM  
Isn't Kerry a senior senator with like two decades of built-up committee memberships and such? Why would he want to give that up for a significantly less-powerful executive position? I understand why Clinton would go for it, she's been there a very short time and is still pretty lightweight in terms of actual senator-power.

Besides, he's a relic with divisive attitudes and a general stance that he's more important than us plebs (even those he ostensibly represents). Entrenched old-money politics, find of the opposite of what Obama's going for. While 'elitist' was a silly and puzzling accusation verging on non-sequitir when directed at Obama, Kerry's rightfully the first thing a lot of people think of when they hear the term.

Plus... dude's a walking public-relations nightmare. If not for the old money bit and the MA bit, I doubt he could hold a seat for long. Look how much he screwed up his presidential bid, he managed to lose to one of the most unpopular presidents in modern history.

 
Phil Moskowitz 2008-12-04 12:19:40 PM  
How about the right person for the right job. Not political cronyism.

 
DrillSergeantPoopyPants 2008-12-04 12:20:48 PM  
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redmond24 2008-12-04 12:22:44 PM  
Phil Moskowitz: How about the right person for the right job. Not political cronyism.

' The heck you say?!

 
NobleHam 2008-12-04 12:23:16 PM  
Phil Moskowitz

You might have a point if he hadn't picked Hillary for Secretary of State. She's definitely not the right person for the job. Her foreign policy scares me, and her experience in foreign policy is limited to tagging along with Bill on international trips and being on some committees.

 
ExJerseyGirl [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 12:27:53 PM  
As a resident of MA, I hope he does not get an appointment. With Ted on his way out, I would not like to lose both senior senators. They have a lot of pull.

 
redmond24 2008-12-04 12:32:38 PM  
NobleHam: Phil Moskowitz

You might have a point if he hadn't picked Hillary for Secretary of State. She's definitely not the right person for the job. Her foreign policy scares me, and her experience in foreign policy is limited to tagging along with Bill on international trips and being on some committees.


Her "scaring" you is not a disqualification. And Secretary of State is basically "top ambassador" and she is familiar with alot of foreign leaders from her First Lady days.

Secretary of States don't make foreign policy. They implement the President's foreign policy. So of course your "she scared me" is code word for you don't trust that she won't go rogue. And well..I can't help you with that. But just have some faith in Obama's judgment.

 
rorypk 2008-12-04 12:40:49 PM  
Biggest democratic loser of the 2008 election? It just might be John "I Got A Rock" Kerry

Am I really the first person to point that out?

 
LincolnLogolas 2008-12-04 12:44:05 PM  
Welcome to Politics 101.

Give your former opponents positions within your government once you're elected. When the next election comes around, they're not likely to run against you or even speak against you for fear of being a complete and utter douche.

 
notmtwain [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 12:46:28 PM  
Kerry was disappointed and tried repeatedly to find out if he was going to be nominated. "Don't tease me, bro" was all he asked.

 
Dafatone 2008-12-04 12:47:01 PM  
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: During their showdown, he said, "What exactly is this foreign policy expertise? Was she negotiating treaties? Was she handling crises? The answer is no." Now he calls her "an American of tremendous stature who will have my complete confidence, who knows many of the world's leaders, who will command respect in her capital and who will clearly have the ability to advance our interests around the world.

I support Obama, but I can't help but feel frustrated that Hillary got the Secretary of State gig. I mean, I know he needs to neuter her chances of a 2012 bid against him and keeping friends close and enemies closer and all that but...damn.


Don't trust cable news. This isn't a "Hillary's the enemy, let's make sure she doesn't run in 2012" thing. She's not running in 2012.

She'll do a good job, and while she might not have tons of foreign policy experience, she has enough political experience to carry out Obama's orders. And it's not like she didn't meet tons of foreign leaders as first lady.

Obama's a smart guy. He knows what he's doing. He picked Hillary because he believes she can do the job. She wasn't my first choice, but I trust Obama.

Man, that feels good to say after 8 years of W.

 
Lt. Cheese Weasel 2008-12-04 12:50:48 PM  
Elitist liberal douchenugget.

That is all.

 
FeedTheCollapse 2008-12-04 12:53:18 PM  
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: I can't help but feel frustrated that Hillary got the Secretary of State gig. I mean, I know he needs to neuter her chances of a 2012 bid against him

I keep seeing this come up about Hillary possibly trying to vie for teh nomination in 2004... but how likely is this? The only recent example I could think of that would have an incumbent President challenged by his own party was Ford, and he was never elected President.

 
Skwrl 2008-12-04 12:56:33 PM  
ExJerseyGirl: As a resident of MA, I hope he does not get an appointment. With Ted on his way out, I would not like to lose both senior senators. They have a lot of pull.

I came here to say this.

 
Shaggy_C 2008-12-04 01:13:11 PM  
What 'loser' presidential candidate has gone on to greatness in the last 50 years? Nixon is the only one I can think of.

 
moops 2008-12-04 01:13:20 PM  
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whidbey [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 01:14:21 PM  
He was actually pretty cool at the Convention.

Otherwise, fark career politicians.

He could stand to step down, let some new blood into the Senate, and go home and count his ketchup money.

 
InmanRoshi 2008-12-04 01:14:50 PM  
oregoncat: I'm pretty sure he'll be happy with his consolation prize chairing the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Yep, there's a pretty large power vacuum among the majority party in the Senate at the moment for Kerry to fill with Biden, Hillary and Richardson out of the picture. I'm actually surprised so many entrenched Senators want to take cabinet positions, but I guess the appeal of not having to hit endure the modern campaign trail again and the endless fundraising that comes with it is appealing.

 
bassmonkeee 2008-12-04 01:14:58 PM  
FeedTheCollapse: Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: I can't help but feel frustrated that Hillary got the Secretary of State gig. I mean, I know he needs to neuter her chances of a 2012 bid against him

I keep seeing this come up about Hillary possibly trying to vie for teh nomination in 2004... but how likely is this? The only recent example I could think of that would have an incumbent President challenged by his own party was Ford, and he was never elected President.


I would say that it is extremely unlikely that Hillary will run for President in 2004. In fact--I'd wager money on it.

 
Erebus1954 2008-12-04 01:16:54 PM  
Dafatone:
Obama's a smart guy. He knows what he's doing. He picked Hillary because he believes she can do the job. She wasn't my first choice, but I trust Obama.


Maybe Barack is just hoping that the Bosnian sniper will get another chance.

Oh, wait.... Never mind.

 
BKITU [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 01:18:17 PM  
Shaggy_C: What 'loser' presidential candidate has gone on to greatness in the last 50 years? Nixon is the only one I can think of.

Two of them (Gore, Carter (re-election)) have won Nobel Prizes, so that's not so bad.

 
BKITU [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 01:19:44 PM  
InmanRoshi: Yep, there's a pretty large power vacuum among the majority party in the Senate at the moment for Kerry to fill with Biden, Hillary and Richardson Obama out of the picture.

Richardson is a governor. Obama himself is the other Democrat leaving the Senate.

 
TheRaven7 2008-12-04 01:22:12 PM  
Nobody has ever given a good reason for Bush being a better president than Kerry. They just say, "he's a douche!" Well then, maybe if he had won in 2004, all the women would have had less sand for Hillary in '08.

 
whidbey [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 01:27:22 PM  
TheRaven7: Nobody has ever given a good reason for Bush being a better president than Kerry.

I had the notion that Kerry would somehow bring 4 years of sanity to the White House, but he was clearly in favor of Afghanistan and Iraq.

Did he ever recant those decisions?

Not to mention that health care wasn't an issue in 2004, he steered clear of the gay marriage question and had no discernible deviation from the current energy policy.

He was simply an ABB candidate, and I made the mistake of voting for him without doing my research.

Shoulda just voted Nader again.

 
todangst 2008-12-04 01:41:33 PM  
Shaggy_C: What 'loser' presidential candidate has gone on to greatness in the last 50 years? Nixon is the only one I can think of.

I presume you count Nobel prizes:

www.sanfranciscosentinel.com

/Perhaps your memory is short?
//How did Nixon achieve 'greatness'?

 
evilmousse 2008-12-04 01:43:54 PM  
of course, kerry supported obama solely as a path to personal gain, and not because he actually thought obama was a worthwhile candidate. further, he must be sorely disappointed in obama's awarding of jobs on basises other than who did campaining legwork. it's not even REMOTELY possible that kerry could be pleased with obama despite not having been given an administration job.

right?

 
notmtwain [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 01:46:46 PM  
todangst: Shaggy_C: What 'loser' presidential candidate has gone on to greatness in the last 50 years? Nixon is the only one I can think of.

//How did Nixon achieve 'greatness'?


Nixon lost in 1960 and came back to win in 1968 and 1972. Whether or not that achieving greatness is open to dispute but I think that's what Shaggy_C meant.

 
Flying Code Monkey 2008-12-04 01:48:41 PM  
Obama nominates a supporter who has previously served in some capacity in government: "OMG! Not change!"

Obama doesn't nominate a supporter who has previously served in some capacity in government: "OMG! Betrayal!"

 
whidbey [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 01:48:50 PM  
notmtwain: Nixon lost in 1960 and came back to win in 1968 and 1972. Whether or not that achieving greatness is open to dispute but I think that's what Shaggy_C meant.

I'd say those are significant accomplishments.

Personally, the man was a paranoid crook, but an accomplished one...

 
TheRevHairless 2008-12-04 02:04:26 PM  
FeedTheCollapse:
I keep seeing this come up about Hillary possibly trying to vie for teh nomination in 2004... but how likely is this? The only recent example I could think of that would have an incumbent President challenged by his own party was Ford, and he was never elected President.

IIRC Ted Kennedy gave Carter a pretty brutal fight in 1980

 
whidbey [TotalFark] 2008-12-04 03:34:07 PM  
TheRevHairless: IIRC Ted Kennedy gave Carter a pretty brutal fight in 1980

Something Kennedy should have been majorly b*tchslapped over.

You don't split the party when there's a Republican threat.

 
feickus 2008-12-04 09:17:51 PM  
Dafatone: Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: During their showdown, he said, "What exactly is this foreign policy expertise? Was she negotiating treaties? Was she handling crises? The answer is no." Now he calls her "an American of tremendous stature who will have my complete confidence, who knows many of the world's leaders, who will command respect in her capital and who will clearly have the ability to advance our interests around the world.

I support Obama, but I can't help but feel frustrated that Hillary got the Secretary of State gig. I mean, I know he needs to neuter her chances of a 2012 bid against him and keeping friends close and enemies closer and all that but...damn.

Don't trust cable news. This isn't a "Hillary's the enemy, let's make sure she doesn't run in 2012" thing. She's not running in 2012.

She'll do a good job, and while she might not have tons of foreign policy experience, she has enough political experience to carry out Obama's orders. And it's not like she didn't meet tons of foreign leaders as first lady.

Obama's a smart guy. He knows what he's doing. He picked Hillary because he believes she can do the job. She wasn't my first choice, but I trust Obama.

Man, that feels good to say after 8 years of W.


You trust a politician? Won't you be disappointed

 
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