I predict this thread will be full of well-reasoned, calm, and civil discourse on the topic at hand.

*popping popcorn*

Oh, he's butthurt about the Obama win because he's a global warming denier. We've got a few of those right here on Fark.

Wait... when did Hoggish Greedly start writing articles for the telegraph?

The commissioner of Major League Baseball believes in this global warming crap too? to hell in a handbasket, that's where we're going

/DRTFA

What doomed us was the Bush authored wall street bailout package. anything after that is just looting a dead and bloated corpse.

This in particular is extremely rich: FTFA, It was his calculations that showed that Stonehenge was aligned, not with the sun's rising at midsummer as hippies and druids imagine, but with its setting at midwinter.

Duh? This required calculations?

All they had to do was ask a druid hippy.

Hu Jintao is going to declare war? On whom?

Who'd have thought it?

/ DNRTFA

Yes because we can f*ck up the planet as much as want as long as the economy keeps going strong.

The economy is what sustains us, not the oxygen, food and water that we get/harvest from our environment.

I'm sick of this kind of thinking.

pnjunction: Yes because we can f*ck up the planet as much as want as long as the economy keeps going strong.

The economy is what sustains us, not the oxygen, food and water that we get/harvest from our environment.

I'm sick of this kind of thinking.

If it makes you feel any better we're not polluting local water tables. all our more toxic manufacturing is done in places like china and india.

Weaver95:
If it makes you feel any better we're not polluting local water tables. all our more toxic manufacturing is done in places like china and india.

Say, that does make me feel better.

Weaver95: If it makes you feel any better we're not polluting local water tables. all our more toxic manufacturing is done in places like china and india.

That's sad.

I'd love to do something about it, but I'm too busy fighting against wind turbines that the power company wants to put up 2 miles out in the lake because they'll ruin my view and decrease my property value. (this is actually going on right now in Toronto)

Can't they just build another coal plant in some poor town?

When did conservatives become so concerned with facts? The next thing you know they'll be questioning everything!

Look, its clear Chairman Obama is Jimmy Charter II, a simple 4 year deal.


Good by Chairman Obama, we all hope you have a follow on job skill.

Sleeping Monkey: When did conservatives become so concerned with facts? The next thing you know they'll be questioning everything!

Well they certainly aren't starting on the "concerned with the facts" thing here, not when it says "Each of these four statements is so wildly at odds with the truth" followed by four supposed rebuttals that are... well, wildly at odds with the truth.

winterwhile:
Good by Chairman Obama, we all hope you have a follow on job skill.

What does that even mean?
Dang!

winterwhile: Look, its clear Chairman Obama is Jimmy Charter II, a simple 4 year deal.


Good by Chairman Obama, we all hope you have a follow on job skill.

Yeah, in the months since Obama took office, the country has really gone downhill.
Wait, what?

That writer is really a disrespectful coont.

Cue the "not this shiat again guy" in 3...2...1...

Shrill.

winterwhile: Look, its clear Chairman Obama is Jimmy Charter II, a simple 4 year deal.


Good by Chairman Obama, we all hope you have a follow on job skill.

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In other words, three people.

That's President-Elect Obama to you, Mr. Idiot.

Apparently his own government disagrees with him since the UK signed off on the Kyoto Accord.

Well, that settles it. I'm going to the State of Texas and demanding they change my vote. I'm voting for the guy who had no driving reason to become President other than his ego and the religious nitwit.

Damn, I thought caring about the environment was a good thing. I sure am glad this article straightened me out there.

/Biologist
//On my first job-hunt
///We're finally back in style :)

pnjunction
I'd love to do something about it, but I'm too busy fighting against wind turbines that the power company wants to put up 2 miles out in the lake because they'll ruin my view and decrease my property value. (this is actually going on right now in Toronto)

You should seek guidance from Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-ying). He has experience blocking wind farms in his own backyard.

Fact check:

The Brits have a coal plant that puts out more than 21 GW?

I think somebody needs some invading.

FTFA: * Read more by Christopher Booker

Oh god, no.

This guy also believes asbestos is harmless because it's "chemically identical to talcum powder"

He's loony.

winterwhile: Look, its clear Chairman Obama is Jimmy Charter II, a simple 4 year deal.


Good by Chairman Obama, we all hope you have a follow on job skill.

After six years in charge of both houses of Congress and eight years in the White House I'm not sure you should be saying anything about Jimmy Carter.

Right?

Really? We're still publishing people who don't think climate change is occurring?
Look, conservatives. You will not win battles by putting your fingers in your ears. At some point you have to say - OK, climate change is happening, and here's a conservative agenda to address it.

we can only deduce from this that Mr Obama has believed all he was told by Al Gore's wondrously batty film An Inconvenient Truth without bothering to check the facts.

Yes. Al Gore's movie is the only thing that's asserting global warming.

Ok, I am not on board with this Global Warming crap. But if we were to allow drilling immediately while encouraging new energy technology, we would be winning the long term battle. And I think Man Made Global warming is a load of Horse Squeeze.

Simplest Quantum System Conceivable: Really? We're still publishing people who don't think climate change is occurring?
Look, conservatives. You will not win battles by putting your fingers in your ears. At some point you have to say - OK, climate change is happening, and here's a conservative agenda to address it.

But that would require actually doing something and doing something may cost money and OMG that's socialism.

Their own rhetoric and fake idealism has completely paralyzed them.

I_Approve_Of_This_Message: Cue the "not this shiat again guy" in 3...2...1...

The mods have put a restriction on it.

Okay, the way Fark has trained me on headlines like this, I didn't see either Bush OR Obama coming.

Farkin'round: The mods have put a restriction on it.

Huh?

Simplest Quantum System Conceivable: Really? We're still publishing people who don't think climate change is occurring?
Look, conservatives. You will not win battles by putting your fingers in your ears. At some point you have to say - OK, climate change is happening, and here's a conservative agenda to address it.

Totally agree, climate change is occurring. The facts are clear.

The world is getting colder. Has been for 2 years now.

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I'll just leave these here

Where do they even find people this stupid that can still navigate a keyboard?

Heh.

I'd rather see the economy and the capitalist system take a hit than for the natural environment of our planet to worsen. Seriously. Quality of life isn't made up solely of how much sh*t you've collected. There's something to be said for air & water quality. There's something to be said for being able to live your life without turning someone a profit.

There's something to be said for being able to look up at the night sky and see the stars as our ancestors did.

Britain's No.1 quality newspaper website?

Looks like they have a long way to go to catch up to America's Best Newspaper.



/I miss WWN.

Doublek111: Simplest Quantum System Conceivable: Really? We're still publishing people who don't think climate change is occurring?
Look, conservatives. You will not win battles by putting your fingers in your ears. At some point you have to say - OK, climate change is happening, and here's a conservative agenda to address it.

Totally agree, climate change is occurring. The facts are clear.

The world is getting colder. Has been for 2 years now.

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Do conservatives believe the U.S is the entire world now too? Awesomesauce.

You know, I didn't much care for this type of shiat when Bush was in office, either. I don't particularly care about English domestic policy either.

DeRosso: I'll just leave these here

Your own charts show temperature decreasing in the past couple of years. Effect without cause isn't science, it is just stupidity.

Even if we do not question the accuracy of our estimates of global temperatures into previous centuries, and even if we ignore the falling global temperatures over the past decade as fossil-fuel emissions have continued to increase, an honest scientist would still have to admit that the hypothesis of man-made global warming hardly rises to the level of "an assertion of what has been or would be the result of carrying out a specified observational procedure."

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The author of the article thinks that asbestos is chemically identical to talcum powder, and that the risk of contracting mesothelioma from white asbestos cement was "insignificant", while that of lung cancer was "zero". Plus, he's a global warming denier. So it doesn't surprise me that he'd rather have Palin as our commander in chief.

Experts KNOW what they're doing!

The current stability of the world's financial base is proof enough of that!