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(9 News) Fail City clerk's typo results in the city losing a $2 million grant. Oops   (9news.com) divider line 44
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pedobearapproved 2008-11-30 01:09:14 AM  
glad I can actually comment on an article, seems the mods keep putting total fark links up on the main page without giving access

 
Rethorn 2008-11-30 01:09:35 AM  
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midnightmuse [TotalFark] 2008-11-30 01:09:36 AM  
oops...

 
JimmyFartpants 2008-11-30 01:12:07 AM  
I once ate a caramel covered spider. It was awesome./

 
Lots43 2008-11-30 01:14:20 AM  
Denver: America's OTHER Florida.

/Pissed that this program doesn't recieve the funding automatically.
//If ever anything was non-pork...

 
firefly212 2008-11-30 01:16:13 AM  
So how many kids will the federal government let suffer from lead poisoning because of a typo? Idiocy like this is why nobody believes in our government any more. We can build craptacular projects that nobody wants and pour money into random countries halfway around the world, but when it comes to actually doing something useful and productive with our money, our government is as impotent as Bob Dole without viagra.

 
rawkus 2008-11-30 01:16:16 AM  
a DUNS number? seriously? lol

i102.photobucket.com

 
Pvt Joker 2008-11-30 01:19:34 AM  
HUD never saw the city's application because a city staffer used an incorrect DUNS number

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Pribar [TotalFark] 2008-11-30 01:21:01 AM  
What a waste of money, when I was growing up gasoline, the seals on cans, the solder on water pipes and just about everything else had lead in it and just see how I turned out..

 
rockforever 2008-11-30 01:24:36 AM  
he wasnt supposed to be there that day

 
sirgrim [TotalFark] 2008-11-30 01:28:50 AM  
Good I ate lead all the time growing up and... purdy bird! Oo00o0o.

 
Trik 2008-11-30 01:35:34 AM  
and why wasn't the memo prof read by the clerks manager before being sent out?

 
zannen 2008-11-30 01:35:47 AM  
Operation fark-up is a success!
/high-fives
//misses

 
elevensixteenths 2008-11-30 01:53:53 AM  
FTA: "I'm glad they were able to sort through the pots of money and make it all come together."

I guess the depression hasn't hit Denver yet.

 
orat-on-a-stick 2008-11-30 02:01:25 AM  
Reminds me of George Carlin's bit where he says god is nothing more than a civil clerk in an office that checks to see if you have marked the correct boxes so you can go to heaven...


"Yes you've lived a good life. helped people and made the world a better place", "But, right here, you forgot to check this box.","See? Right here." "Sorry, but you are going to hell."


/Damn civil clerks

 
Thusly Farked [TotalFark] 2008-11-30 02:13:36 AM  
"You do know that's coming out of your paycheck, right?."

 
z_gringo [TotalFark] 2008-11-30 02:15:47 AM  
It doesn't sound like something federal tax dollars neeeds to be spent on anyway.

 
corneliusfiddlebone 2008-11-30 02:18:02 AM  
fta You have to check, check, check again," said Ware

Lumberg is gonna be on that clerk's ass about the DUNS number for a while.

 
sugarlarry 2008-11-30 02:31:28 AM  
They couldn't maybe make a call and say "hey there... your DUNS number seems to be off, can you confirm?" I mean, what sort of turd would actually endanger the safety of kids due to an error like this?

 
lolmadillo 2008-11-30 02:36:55 AM  
sugarlarry: They couldn't maybe make a call and say "hey there... your DUNS number seems to be off, can you confirm?"

who is this "they" and why would "they" automatically know denver's duns number?

 
spymasterII 2008-11-30 02:43:20 AM  
i475.photobucket.com

 
nickerj1 2008-11-30 03:02:58 AM  
sugarlarry: I mean, what sort of turd would actually endanger the safety of kids due to an error like this?

Is lead really actively seeking to kill off all the children? If a kid's parents can't keep them from getting heavy metal poisoning, do we really want to save them? That's like spending federal money to inform people not to run with scissors.

Mandating 5-point seat belts would save more lives than this crap-shoot.

 
murrdy 2008-11-30 03:03:39 AM  

 
quixotal 2008-11-30 03:09:41 AM  
Teh fial

 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark] 2008-11-30 03:47:41 AM  
Pribar: What a waste of money, when I was growing up gasoline, the seals on cans, the solder on water pipes and just about everything else had lead in it and just see how I turned out..

GODDAMN, that's a justification for the program if ever there was one! Send another $50 mil to Colorado right away!

And send a hazmat team to clean up Pribar and dump him in a concrete-lined containment hole, pronto.

 
TheNyquilKid [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-11-30 05:18:16 AM  
If only the word misspelled was "fired".

 
cherryl taggart 2008-11-30 05:42:34 AM  
Run a PSA telling fool parents to stop letting kids eat their toys from China. Oh and buy a bar of Ivory soap to wash their hands just to be safe. Or did Colorado never get the 30 year memo about no more lead based paint in the hardware stores?

Dayum, I hate reading about compounding stupidity

 
TessaTickle 2008-11-30 06:11:51 AM  
Will sort it out ...
orangecow.org

 
Lots43 2008-11-30 06:23:56 AM  
Trik

and why wasn't the memo prof read by the clerks manager before being sent out?


"I don't have time, my kid needs to be at ballet practice at 4. Where do I sign? Fine, now go."

 
ZAZ [TotalFark] 2008-11-30 07:30:54 AM  
A clerical error on a federal grant application cost the city the funding needed to run its program to protect kids from lead poisoning.

Good. That's not something federal money should be spent on.

 
dougfm 2008-11-30 07:32:03 AM  
quixotal: Teh fial

Your post? Yes it is.

 
castufari 2008-11-30 08:06:48 AM  
They won't ding the manager, they'll ding the clerk. We had a supervisor put medical records for a kid in the wrong chart. Chart was sent out to the courts for some reason and they caught it. Did the supervisor (who signed in/out the information) get in trouble? No, the medical records clerk did. Apparently she's supposed to have some sort of ESP that alerts her when something is amiss.

/supervisor finally got written up after I leaked it

 
Mongo cut wood 2008-11-30 08:51:38 AM  
O course it's all Bush and Sarah Palin's fault according to one of the commentors. Pure Obamaniac idiocy.

Was one of the commentors at the bottom of the article a Farker? I saw somone posted as residenttroll.

 
legion_of_doo 2008-11-30 09:36:15 AM  
Time to arrest Harry Buttle.

 
JesterGirl [TotalFark] 2008-11-30 10:23:10 AM  
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eggrolls [TotalFark] 2008-11-30 11:17:06 AM  
sugarlarry: They couldn't maybe make a call and say "hey there... your DUNS number seems to be off, can you confirm?" I mean, what sort of turd would actually endanger the safety of kids due to an error like this?

Nope. And, god help me, I know all about this.

The grant application process isn't actually handled by the government. It's been subcontracted out to a private agency called "Grants.gov", that has made it the most convoluted, complex and user-UNfriendly process you can conceive. All documents must be submitted in PDF form, even documents of support with hand written signatures. No paper, ever. So the old postmark proof of submission is gone. All e-documents (which can be 25 separate documents, letters and forms) must be submitted in a specific order. Applications must be received electronically no later than a specific time, leaving you subject to the vagaries of internet traffic. And all those PDG can take up to a half hour to upload. (I actually missed a app deadline by 6 minutes because my laptop clock wasn't set right.) And your DUNS number and your access ID number had better be correct, because nobody will ever see your app otherwise. And, oh yeah, your operator ID number needed to access the Grants.gov site expires after a year, so if you only apply for one grant a year, you need to apply and renew the ID number before you're allowed to access the system again, a process which takes at least two weeks. Not that they tell you this anywhere in the instructions. Miss any of these steps, or get them wrong in any way, and your application is dead.

The process has been a source of irritation for those of us writing grant applications for years. The government officials I have spoken to are aware that the process is f*cked, but the Grants.gov contract looks airtight, and nobody has a good answer.

Denver has my sympathies.

/When I first called customer service, I was asked for my security clearance before I could get help. Security clearance? I work for a piss-ant museum with a staff of six!

 
D-D-D-Dave 2008-11-30 12:19:34 PM  
Applications must be received electronically no later than a specific time, leaving you subject to the vagaries of internet traffic.

As a computer science major, I have had countless assignments due by electronic submission by midnight. If the "vagaries of Internet traffic" actually hindered this, then it was by far and wide considered the submitters fault for not submitting 5 minutes earlier.

However, I'm sure the company managed to put red tape where there is logically nothing to hang it on. Bureaucracies blow.

 
eggrolls [TotalFark] 2008-11-30 12:24:44 PM  
D-D-D-Dave: Applications must be received electronically no later than a specific time, leaving you subject to the vagaries of internet traffic.

As a computer science major, I have had countless assignments due by electronic submission by midnight. If the "vagaries of Internet traffic" actually hindered this, then it was by far and wide considered the submitters fault for not submitting 5 minutes earlier.

However, I'm sure the company managed to put red tape where there is logically nothing to hang it on. Bureaucracies blow.


Yes, I was a dumbass for submitting the app right before the deadline, but I never expected the upload to take 30 minutes. Live and learn. Totally with you re: bureaucracies.

 
TessaTickle 2008-11-30 12:27:16 PM  
Heh, I claim obscure points. Or is Legion_of_doo's post supposed to be a nod ?

/ yeah, I like my reference bait to be called
// so sue me

 
TessaTickle 2008-11-30 12:28:48 PM  
Aw fark me, JesterGirl got even obscurer and caught me out.

/ off to jump off the bridge of fail

 
planes 2008-11-30 01:06:15 PM  
Another example of wasting taxpayers money. Lead Paint Warnings? They haven't sold lead-based paint to consumers for over 50 years. How about a couple of "Public Service" bulletins on televison telling people not to let their kid gnaw on 50 year old cribs and toys from China.

Obama announced last week that he's going after foolish waste-of-money government programs. This one should be on page one of the memo to him from his staffers.

 
AppleOptionEsc 2008-11-30 03:25:12 PM  
planes: Another example of wasting taxpayers money. Lead Paint Warnings? They haven't sold lead-based paint to consumers for over 50 years. How about a couple of "Public Service" bulletins on televison telling people not to let their kid gnaw on 50 year old cribs and toys from China.

Obama announced last week that he's going after foolish waste-of-money government programs. This one should be on page one of the memo to him from his staffers.


So then people can claim he doesn't care about children? It's sad I'm this cynical about life now-a-days, but you have to be, otherwise you would go insane. BUT, if Obama does cut programs such as this, we can finally put to rest that he eats children. I wouldn't eat lead tainted children.

/more of an embryo man myself

 
Aaron Burrfish 2008-11-30 03:59:38 PM  
Have used grants.gov as well and it is the worst system ever. The last time I submitted a grant it kept giving me an error message saying "server timed out, upload unsuccessful". I assumed that this meant it had not managed to connect properly and kept trying. I was rather surprised later to discover that I had submitted the grant 22 times. After contacting the actual granting agency they agreed that grants.gov sucks and that this happens "all the time".

The system also has automatic steps that "check for errors" and "validates grant app." neither of which seem to do anything at all, but if you're new to the system you might assume that it would check for an incorrect number.

 
Satanic_Hamster 2008-12-01 09:46:31 AM  
You know, I have to blame the feds and not the clerk.

Is it too much to ask for them to, say, call for a correct number? Why toss out the entire thing?

 
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