Snap!

Who could have possibly predicted this?

Zing.

Nuclear powers should be forced to hug everyone before starting shiat. Just my opinion.

But first India needs to show us where the WMDs are.

+1

Nice headline.

And so it begins. Who are the Indians going to hang? You know, to make an example.

Just want to see if it intensifies - maybe a drawn-out militarization of India like we've seen in the United States post-9/11?

The escalation of violence sure to ensue in Pakistan/Waziristan/India will no doubt strain tensions between two semi-unstable nuclear powers.

And then all it takes is the right catalyst. Iran by then could be in the latter stages of uranium enrichment. It's a scary new world shaping up, but then again, it always has been.

The real question is whether someone will, as a way of analogy, be stupid enough to claim that the United States attacked Germany in response to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

For those of you stupid enough to make that claim, you should understand that it is completely untrue.

I watched the events at the Taj Mahal Hotel on NDTV. Except for the Black Cat Commando tossing that terrorist out of the window, it was heart wrenching.

Zardari has no real control over the ISI. It's possible.

Baghdad better be on alert!

bpdisme: And so it begins. Who are the Indians going to hang? You know, to make an example.



/smoldering

We'd better get the smallpox blankets ready.

India from the East. US from the West. It'll be like an intra-continental wobbly H.

giggity.

bpdisme: And so it begins. Who are the Indians going to hang? You know, to make an example.

They've got one live terrorist. That's a good place to start. He probably already looks like he walked into a couple of doors or slipped on the stairs a couple of times.

Subby misspelled 'Iran'

eraser8: The real question is whether someone will, as a way of analogy, be stupid enough to claim that the United States attacked Germany in response to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

For those of you stupid enough to make that claim, you should understand that it is completely untrue.

Arguing with those voices in your head again?

I figured we'd either go into either Syria or Pakistan. This looks like just the excuse we need. :/

/sadly, not surprised.

andrew131: Arguing with those voices in your head again?

No. Why do you ask?

"We should not fall into the militants' trap," he said.

It's a Trap!

That guy's right though, increased tensions between India and Pakistan would be a plumb fruit for the radicals.

ignorantalmond: Nuclear powers should be forced to hug everyone before starting shiat. Just my opinion.

But you can't hug your children with nuclear arms!

/Obligatory
//In all seriousness, the Indians need a measured, reasoned response, and the Pakistanis need to clean house with a flamethrower. They have too much to lose by shooting at each other. The extremist networks knew right where to poke them to get the spotlight to point elsewhere.
///Is that too long for a slashie? Fuggit.

A++ Headline. Would Read Again.

I lolled.

Yeah the tv station I saw the coverage on was calling it "India's 9/11"

Remember back during the election, when Barack "Afghanistan-Pakistan" Obama was listening to the rhetoric of actual military experts, while John "Iran-Iraq" McCain was listening to that barrel o' wisdom Rush Limbaugh?

Remember the whole Test-The-President rhetoric? Thank God we don't have another Republican president to look tough, then puss out on terrorism when it's actually time to catch Bin Laden, or in this case, tell us Iran is priority #1 when all signs point to Pakistan and Afghanistan.

ignorantalmond: Nuclear powers should be forced to hug everyone before starting shiat. Just my opinion.

They do. It's called Mutually Assured Destruction. Sort of like the embrace of King Arthur and Mordred.

Sad but true this was on infowars the other yesterday.

/feels dirty for knowing that.
//Not a truther I swear.

Eleanor Abernathy: bpdisme: And so it begins. Who are the Indians going to hang? You know, to make an example.

They've got one live terrorist. That's a good place to start. He probably already looks like he walked into a couple of doors or slipped on the stairs a couple of times.

The article I read in the Mbia Mirror claimed he was begging the hospital staff to kill him. When he surrendered he said "I want to live" and when they were done questioning him he said "Kill me please."

Link (with clickety poppy goodness)

After seeing how painfully incompetent the Indian security forces are at handling a few dozen (well equipped and planned, admittedly), I have to ask...

Does this say, loud and clear, to Pakistan, that they could easily invade without so much as brushing aside the Indian army?

The US has been supplying Pakistan with some pretty heavy machinery to "fight terrorism" over the past few years.

wild9: Yeah the tv station I saw the coverage on was calling it "India's 9/11"

Yeah, and the 2002 Bali bombings were Australia's 9/11. And the 2004 Madrid train bombings were Spain's 9/11.

Everybody's trying to get into the act.

globalwarmingpraiser: Sad but true this was on infowars the other yesterday.

/feels dirty for knowing that.
//Not a truther I swear.

I've gone there occasionally, and I'm also not a truther. Jones does a good job keeping up with the police state if you can filter out the "OMGZ BILDERBERGER RFID WILL STERILIZE YOUR CHILDREN" crap.

HEY! If they invade Pakistan, they can get Osama for us! GO INDIANS!

Bucky Katt: I watched the events at the Taj Mahal Hotel on NDTV. Except for the Black Cat Commando tossing that terrorist out of the window, it was heart wrenching.

Did anyone see that assclown from India's police holding an MP5 like it was the first time he'd ever held one in his life while firing randomly inside one of the buildings where hostages were held?

India should worry a little about Pakistan. They should worry a helluva lot more about the sad state of their police and anti-terrorism units.

Their commando forces are less qualified to respond to those situations than your local SWAT team.


As for Pakistan? If they don't get control of the tribal areas, they risk a coup. I think we need an open letter to Pakistan. It should clearly state that we support them 100%, but if they let radicals get control of nuclear weapons, our subs will turn Pakistan into a country that will next be visited by archaeologists when the radiation levels get to normal.

Cubist Robot Party: After seeing how painfully incompetent the Indian security forces are at handling a few dozen (well equipped and planned, admittedly), I have to ask...

Does this say, loud and clear, to Pakistan, that they could easily invade without so much as brushing aside the Indian army?

The US has been supplying Pakistan with some pretty heavy machinery to "fight terrorism" over the past few years.

An intelligent Indian government would say "Hey, maybe allowing our people to have guns so this could have been a battle instead of a massacre would be a good idea", but that won't happen.

Brisketeer: ignorantalmond: Nuclear powers should be forced to hug everyone before starting shiat. Just my opinion.

They do. It's called Mutually Assured Destruction. Sort of like the embrace of King Arthur and Mordred.

Point of note: Mutually Assured Destruction was a treaty worked out between the United States and the U.S.S.R. that limited the number of cities each country could protect from nuclear destruction. It wasn't the notion that we'd both destroy each other. Fortunately we have missile defense systems in place (as we no longer have to abide by that treaty) that no longer assure our destruction.

nuclear_asshat: Bucky Katt: I watched the events at the Taj Mahal Hotel on NDTV. Except for the Black Cat Commando tossing that terrorist out of the window, it was heart wrenching.

Did anyone see that assclown from India's police holding an MP5 like it was the first time he'd ever held one in his life while firing randomly inside one of the buildings where hostages were held?

India should worry a little about Pakistan. They should worry a helluva lot more about the sad state of their police and anti-terrorism units.

Their commando forces are less qualified to respond to those situations than your local SWAT team.


As for Pakistan? If they don't get control of the tribal areas, they risk a coup. I think we need an open letter to Pakistan. It should clearly state that we support them 100%, but if they let radicals get control of nuclear weapons, our subs will turn Pakistan into a country that will next be visited by archaeologists when the radiation levels get to normal.

Or Pakistan could just admit that that clusterfark isn't part of Pakistan, and grant the nutbar tribes independence.

eraser8: The real question is whether someone will, as a way of analogy, be stupid enough to claim that the United States attacked Germany in response to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

For those of you stupid enough to make that claim, you should understand that it is completely untrue.

Of course, the Americans had already "illegally" started attacking the Germans in 1940.

/History...it does a body good.

Cubist Robot Party: After seeing how painfully incompetent the Indian security forces are at handling a few dozen (well equipped and planned, admittedly), I have to ask...

Does this say, loud and clear, to Pakistan, that they could easily invade without so much as brushing aside the Indian army?

The US has been supplying Pakistan with some pretty heavy machinery to "fight terrorism" over the past few years.

Yes, it says Pakistan could invade India.

/Are you an idiot?

That image might have been hotlinked. I have yet to lrn2Fark.

/Maybe my 10th post
//Be nice

Undiluted: Remember the whole Test-The-President rhetoric? Thank God we don't have another Republican president to look tough, then puss out on terrorism when it's actually time to catch Bin Laden, or in this case, tell us Iran is priority #1 when all signs point to Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Read "Ghost Wars" and you can see how Clinton was completely duped bu Benazir Bhutto. The ISI was aiding the Taliban in massive ways and the CIA and several other agencies (including India) and Clinton was completely fooled. I think he thought a woman couldn't get the best of him.

Before long, the ISI was completely out of her control and the Taliban was completely out of the ISI's control. Like the Saudi's, Pakistan spent far too much time raising a snake in the yard and hoping it would feed on others.

While I see the appeal of giving the Pashtuns their own land, they'd just push into Pakistan or Afghanistan anyways. Theirs is not an ideology that likes to stay in one place and be a good neighbor.

nuclear_asshat: Did anyone see that assclown from India's police holding an MP5 like it was the first time he'd ever held one in his life while firing randomly inside one of the buildings where hostages were held?

The guy on the balcony holding it up over his head? Yeah, that's some fine shootin' there, Tex.

I've been following this on CNN/IDN and they reported yesterday that "the ISI made a U-turn." So much for that.

Occam's Chainsaw: ignorantalmond: Nuclear powers should be forced to hug everyone before starting shiat. Just my opinion.

But you can't hug your children with nuclear arms!

/Obligatory
//In all seriousness, the Indians need a measured, reasoned response, and the Pakistanis need to clean house with a flamethrower. They have too much to lose by shooting at each other. The extremist networks knew right where to poke them to get the spotlight to point elsewhere.
///Is that too long for a slashie? Fuggit.

I pee'd. Just a little bit. Nuclear arms. That'll be all.

Cubist Robot Party: After seeing how painfully incompetent the Indian security forces are at handling a few dozen (well equipped and planned, admittedly), I have to ask...

Does this say, loud and clear, to Pakistan, that they could easily invade without so much as brushing aside the Indian army?

The US has been supplying Pakistan with some pretty heavy machinery to "fight terrorism" over the past few years.

Not so much. Regular army -vs- targets with no civilian investiture, it'd be a fair fight. Random armed insurgents amidst an international civilian populace being used as a shield? Not so much. nuclear_asshat had it nailed, they need to work on their counter-terror efficacy.

YixilTesiphon: nuclear_asshat: As for Pakistan? If they don't get control of the tribal areas, they risk a coup. I think we need an open letter to Pakistan. It should clearly state that we support them 100%, but if they let radicals get control of nuclear weapons, our subs will turn Pakistan into a country that will next be visited by archaeologists when the radiation levels get to normal.

Or Pakistan could just admit that that clusterfark isn't part of Pakistan, and grant the nutbar tribes independence.

Ever notice that the hotbeds of strife this last decade or two seem to be primarily places where colonial powers arbitrarily drew some lines and said, "This is all part of country X,"?

Who in India actually cares? By some measures, India is poorer and has a higher poverty rate than sub-Sahara Africa. The wealth stratification is ridiculous- Do the ~900,000,000 Indians on the edge of survival really give a damn about something that only affects the wealthiest 3% of the population? I suspect that there's more outrage about this in Europe and the US (and even then, only among bourgeoisie) than there is in Bharata.

Brisketeer: ignorantalmond: Nuclear powers should be forced to hug everyone before starting shiat. Just my opinion.

They do. It's called Mutually Assured Destruction. Sort of like the embrace of King Arthur and Mordred.

Outside of the world of fiction (if you will), tensions between India (and Pakistan) and the US have been out of hand. What should be in hand? The bodies of both prime ministers. It'd be cute. Harmless, and cute. I also fear Great Britain's response to this. They were the first to speak out (on CNN) about this, saying both countries need to work shiat out.

I call for a global hug-fest.

Come for the "ur with us or against us" rhetoric, stay for the "hindight is 20/20 revisionist history."

ignorantalmond: I call for a global hug-fest.

Orgy time?

nuclear_asshat:

As for Pakistan? If they don't get control of the tribal areas, they risk a coup. I think we need an open letter to Pakistan. It should clearly state that we support them 100%, but if they let radicals get control of nuclear weapons, our subs will turn Pakistan into a country that will next be visited by archaeologists when the radiation levels get to normal.

Support them 100%? Change that to say we support India 100%, being as they are also our allies, but they are allies who havn't attacked us or harboured our enemies, so i'm going to side with India on this one.

If there is a serious shred of evidence that Pakistani government officials were behind this then we need to intervene before India exacts its revenge first, or Pakistan pre-empts what it reckons is incoming revenge.

I wonder if a conventional strike could reduce Pakistan's nuclear capabilities to dust without having to resort to anything too extreme.

Occam's Chainsaw: Ever notice that the hotbeds of strife this last decade or two seem to be primarily places where colonial powers arbitrarily drew some lines and said, "This is all part of country X,"?

Yep. Everybody would be a lot better off letting all those crazy tribes them be independent and just trading with them. They can become civilized and rich if they want to.

Anyone referencing this as "India's 9/11" needs to be pimp slapped. 9/11 was a sleeping America's wake-up call. The ISI have been starting shiat in Mumbai for decades. They coordinated 6 bombings that killed 80 just two years ago, it just wasn't the lead story on CNN because it didn't involve Westerners and there wasn't "cool" hostage footage.

As for the "militarization of India" in response to this, God let's hope so. The aim of the ISI is to stir up enough trouble to turn northwest India into a chaotic, lawless region so they can create a corridor into the Pakistan border where recruited Jihadists from Bangladesh and Nepal can smuggle in arms, money and new recruits since not much is coming in from the Afghanistan border these days, what with the American army camped out there and all.

Another rumour being discussed is that the islamic extremists in Pakistan did this with the intention of increasing tensions between Pakistan and India, thus getting Pakistan to divert the (rather lackluster) army resources from the Afghani border, back onto the Indian border. From what I hear, there are quite a few in the ISI with sympathies for these terrorist groups, and the Pakistani government has no control over both the ISI and the terrorist groups.

This is a major clusterfark to say the least. The innocents always suffer.