given the Bush administration's nominating abilities, maybe this is a blessing in disguise.

A difference of opinion in my US Congress?

I raised this in another thread. seems to be what we're turning into these days.

Remember how almost everyone that wasn't a politician was against this in the first place?

Crosshair: Remember how almost everyone that wasn't a politician was against this in the first place?

The beltway insiders LOVED the bailout. the only argument was who got to control the giveaway. The fact that both parties supported the bailout was glossed over.

Why should I be surprised that a Republican wants no oversight?

The party of personal responsibility just assumes that those involved will take responsibility for their own actions, I guess.

I have no idea what the implications of this are, or what the article is trying to get at. I also have no html skills, so here isn't a picture of a bunny with a pancake on his head.

MorrisBird: I have no idea what the implications of this are, or what the article is trying to get at. I also have no html skills, so here isn't a picture of a bunny with a pancake on his head.

As I understand it, it goes something like this:

1. wall street needs the money RIGHT NOW! Or we'll all die horribly in a fire. Now now now! money money money!

2. A couple of congressthings, for some silly reason, thought that it would be rather nice to have some form of congressional oversight on just who gets a pile of money and to report on where they use it. the oversight provision was vague and there wasn't much in the way of regulatory authority...but at least it was there.

3. along comes someone (we don't know who) to block the oversight provision. The money still gets dispersed, only now there's nobody there taking notes as to who gets what, how much or for what reasons. Oh, and we won't know how they spend the money.

It could take a while to sort all of this out. And while this is working it's way though congress, SecTreasury is out there operating the money pumps without a safety manual. call me cynical, but I suspect someone is planning on taking advantage of this situation for personal fiancial gain. I'm also curious as to why this appointment was blocked. It certainly seems suspicious to me....but i'm a cynical and suspicous bastard. so there's that.

As for the implications - well, lots of money and no regulatory oversight or authority tends to encourage corruption and greed. I suppose that would count as a negative, if you were looking for the bad part of all this.

Weaver95, you forgot:



/hotlinked for maximum lulz

Unless I read it wrong, it sounds more like a lot of biatching and moaning over which committee has jurisdiction, NOT that a watchdog will not be appointed.

8 years of no bid contracts going to Cheney's old company... What is this "oversight" something new?

Weaver95call me cynical, but I suspect someone is planning on taking advantage of this situation for personal fiancial gain.

haha, Weaver, you crack me up sometimes. Like
THAT could ever happen

Sybilll [TotalFark] Quote 2008-11-29 06:54:46 PM
Unless I read it wrong, it sounds more like a lot of biatching and moaning over which committee has jurisdiction, NOT that a watchdog will not be appointed.

It's a playaction, bureaucracy style. This thing just won't get resolved until it doesn't matter

Sybilll: Unless I read it wrong, it sounds more like a lot of biatching and moaning over which committee has jurisdiction, NOT that a watchdog will not be appointed.

it could turn out to be little more than a territorial pissing contest....but that's almost just as bad as deliberate malfeasance. Look at it this way - if this oversight provision was blocked because someone was sore about who got to run the appointment committee, then that means someone put their ego before the good of the nation. Someone was vain enough, self centered and arrogant enough to cock block an important appoint for NO OTHER REASON than they felt slighted. And this person (whomever they are) votes on important legislation. They are a respected leader in their community, they have power and influence. And they apparently have the maturity of a 2 year old child throwing a temper tantrum in a sandbox.

I think I prefer that this is all part of some grand scheme to defraud the voters of billions of dollars. at least that sort of evil shows a basic level of respect for the country. someone put some planning and thought into developing the scheme. The thought that it was all the fault of some emo congressman feeling left out of the loop makes me want to beat the crap outta someone.

Crosshair: Remember how almost everyone that wasn't a politician was against this in the first place?

i remember a number of economists who agreed that some form of bailout was necessary, even if they recognized that it was being done poorly.

so no.

Weaver95: Someone was vain enough, self centered and arrogant enough to cock block an important appoint for NO OTHER REASON than they felt slighted. And this person (whomever they are) votes on important legislation. They are a respected leader in their community, they have power and influence. And they apparently have the maturity of a 2 year old child throwing a temper tantrum in a sandbox.

Well that ought to narrow it down to every single member of Congress.

The Republicans: they're at it again.

The Democrats blocked All of Bush's nominations for the past three years. Fark them - now the Republicans return the favor and it's time to cry? Go home if you can't take the heat, you morans.

Why does Kos get so much prime real estate here? He's a pimp for the Democratic Party.

Rodeodoc: The Democrats blocked All of Bush's nominations for the past three years. Fark them - now the Republicans return the favor and it's time to cry? Go home if you can't take the heat, you morans.

Why does Kos get so much prime real estate here? He's a pimp for the Democratic Party.

Uh, this was a White House appointment, AKA a Bush appointment, unless I misunderstand terribly.

And you act like one side blocking the other for valid reasons and an anonymous senator doing it for no stated reason is the same thing. The Republicans don't want the government to have any control over this money for one reason or another. It's completely stupid, but that seems their goal.

If we are going to give out the money, which we are, we (the Government) should have strict controls over how it is spent.

Rodeodoc: The Democrats blocked All of Bush's nominations for the past three years. Fark them - now the Republicans return the favor and it's time to cry? Go home if you can't take the heat, you morans.

Why does Kos get so much prime real estate here? He's a pimp for the Democratic Party.

think much?

Did anyone ever seriously expect there would be an ounce of oversight? Anyone? Buehler?

Well the conpassionate Dem-o-rats have their hands all over this one. They set this up, they ran it, then they took bribes with sweet loans from countrywide.

Yep, no hearings, its hard to call your own dem-o-rats up to the stand.

By the way where is Comrade KOS, I hear he bought when the market was high.

Rodeodoc: Why does Kos get so much prime real estate here?

Rodeodoc: The Democrats blocked All of Bush's nominations for the past three years.

ALL of them? Which nominations? For which posts? Got names?

But I was assured that us taxpayers were protected:

Rodeodoc: The Democrats blocked All of Bush's nominations for the past three years. Fark them

Ahhhhhh.... How soon Rodeodoc forgets the eight long years of Republican Senators blocking Clinton's judicial nominees...

Maybe your attitude won't be helpful if Republicans ever regain control of the Senate? You think?

And, moran? How many Supreme Court justices did Bush get through the Democratic Senate? Yeeeaahhhhh.... All of them. 'Tard...

Rodeodoc: The Democrats blocked All of Bush's nominations for the past three years. Fark them - now the Republicans return the favor and it's time to cry? Go home if you can't take the heat, you morans.

Yeah, Roberts and Alito sure got screwed, didn't they? So you're OK with $700 billion going unmonitored, as long as it makes libs whine? You're awesome.

Why does Kos get so much prime real estate here? He's a pimp for the Democratic Party.

Yeah, FARK should give more space to non-pimps, like NRO, NewsBusters, NewsMax, etc., right?

Crosshair: Remember how almost everyone that wasn't a politician was against this in the first place?

Yup, I remember that most citizens, in both parties, were dead set against it. And all the politicians, in both parties, voted for it.

Anybody is welcome to review their transactions here: Link (new window)

Congress is in session? Lame duck Congress?

moothemagiccow: Congress is in session? Lame duck Congress?

Be nice if they earned their keep.

Not likely, but it would be nice.

winterwhile Well the conpassionate Dem-o-rats have their hands all over this one. They set this up, they ran it, then they took bribes with sweet loans from countrywide.


I think I'm supposed to uncover something right now, I just don't know what it is.

The bankers and their paid monkeys in the US government are just hoping you Americans ignore this and don't fight it.

DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY, OR PREPARE FOR THE WORST!!!

Are they blocking the implementation of watchdog oversight? Or just blocking the nomination of a specific person to that post?

700 million is just a drop in the bucket compared to the billions pissed away in Iraq with no accountability.

/wonders where the pallets of money are being sent now

justoneznot: Are they blocking the implementation of watchdog oversight? Or just blocking the nomination of a specific person to that post?

They're arguing over which committee gets to select the method of implementation. Or at least that's the excuse.

RemyDuron: Rodeodoc: The Democrats blocked All of Bush's nominations for the past three years. Fark them - now the Republicans return the favor and it's time to cry? Go home if you can't take the heat, you morans.

Why does Kos get so much prime real estate here? He's a pimp for the Democratic Party.

Uh, this was a White House appointment, AKA a Bush appointment, unless I misunderstand terribly.

And you act like one side blocking the other for valid reasons and an anonymous senator doing it for no stated reason is the same thing. The Republicans don't want the government to have any control over this money for one reason or another. It's completely stupid, but that seems their goal.

If we are going to give out the money, which we are, we (the Government) should have strict controls over how it is spent.

Why the hell are the Republicans always anonymous when blocking legislation? I think they are cowards.

I don't doubt the spirit of the story, but "an unnamed Republican Senator?" It's unanimous by the Democrats so the anonymous source must have come from the Republican side?

CaesarSneezy: I don't doubt the spirit of the story, but "an unnamed Republican Senator?" It's unanimous by the Democrats so the anonymous source must have come from the Republican side?

It isn't an anonymous source. An anonymous Senator can put a hold on legislation (though you know the party). It is cowardly and obnoxious.

A watchdog is overrated anyway. I peice of raw meat covered in peanut butter is enough to shut them up. Now a trained watchmonkey that can dial 911? That's some security.

Rodeodoc: The Democrats blocked All of Bush's nominations for the past three years. Fark them - now the Republicans return the favor and it's time to cry? Go home if you can't take the heat, you morans.

I'm really farking sick of the whole 'you din't cooperate wif Bush for the past 3 years' line of shiat. He farking ran this country into the farking ground and every farking decision the twatwaffle has made has been disgustingly unsound. Any sane person would have made the same moves to stop the stupid farker from doing any more damage. It wasn't a partisan move. It was more of a don't fark up things more than you already have if we can help it type thing.

BlippityBleep: Rodeodoc: The Democrats blocked All of Bush's nominations for the past three years. Fark them - now the Republicans return the favor and it's time to cry? Go home if you can't take the heat, you morans.

I'm really farking sick of the whole 'you din't cooperate wif Bush for the past 3 years' line of shiat. He farking ran this country into the farking ground and every farking decision the twatwaffle has made has been disgustingly unsound. Any sane person would have made the same moves to stop the stupid farker from doing any more damage. It wasn't a partisan move. It was more of a don't fark up things more than you already have if we can help it type thing.

Not true. Have you seen the choice he made on the White House carpet? I tell ya it makes the whole room come together, man.

BlippityBleep: Rodeodoc: The Democrats blocked All of Bush's nominations for the past three years. Fark them - now the Republicans return the favor and it's time to cry? Go home if you can't take the heat, you morans.

I'm really farking sick of the whole 'you din't cooperate wif Bush for the past 3 years' line of shiat. He farking ran this country into the farking ground and every farking decision the twatwaffle has made has been disgustingly unsound. Any sane person would have made the same moves to stop the stupid farker from doing any more damage. It wasn't a partisan move. It was more of a don't fark up things more than you already have if we can help it type thing.

Eh, Rodeodoc is full of shiat. The Dems caved to every one of Bush's damned friends appointments. The gang of 14 did nothing but allow a far-right judge onto the court and 2 more incredibly partisan aholes onto other courts. Rodeodoc is full of shiat...surprise.

Hay guyz, has anyone posted this yet?

Rodeodoc: epublicans return the favor and it's time to cry? Go home if you can't take the heat, you morans.

Why does Kos get so much prime real estate here? He's a pimp for the Democratic Party

He's not just a pimp, it is practically a hate site. Or at least a site that often supports hate in between some legit links that could be found elsewhere...

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check out this nifty new image!

Weaver95: I raised this in another thread. seems to be what we're turning into these days.

Turning into? As if it didn't happen with "Reaganomics" and now level-headed people everywhere are finding out that it's probably not such a good idea?

GAT_00
Why should I be surprised that a Republican wants no oversight?

Biggest possible FAIL.

Dodd wants oversight, but he wants the Banking Committee to have it, not the Finance Committee (which is the one that's whining here).