They do have so very much fear about them. Good.

My cynical side says somebody is looking to coin money selling crap to stupid frightened people, once again.

What a waste of 4050000.

Specifically, I Resist: Socialistic wealth redistribution including any and all tax increases and big-government welfare programs.

Yeah, suuuuure you do.

change the marriage bit to 'ban all marriage' and i'd join.

A million people that will be getting visits from the SS in another 2 months.

That's a lot of people to be putting in camps.

Oh sure - NOW they decide they don't like socialism. Bush nationalizes the farking banking system and they think Obama is a socialist!?

Morons.

i just left them an email ( left a fake email address ofcourse) suggesting they run off to idaho, form the wolverines and carry on with this circle-jerk in a fashion that wont impinge upon the other 303,000,000 citizens who are laughing at them

"Weakening of our military through rapid pullback from Iraq, defunding our troops and overall disarmament."

Obama's going to take away their pay?

Dear dumbshiats,

The President is the commander in chief. He decides what the troops do.

FootInMouthDisease: i just left them an email ( left a fake email address ofcourse) suggesting they run off to idaho, form the wolverines and carry on with this circle-jerk in a fashion that wont impinge upon the other 303,000,000 citizens who are laughing at them

Hey! What'd Idaho do to deserve that??

Jesus.

Weaver95: Oh sure - NOW they decide they don't like socialism. Bush nationalizes the farking banking system and they think Obama is a socialist!?

Morons Morans.

ftfy. :-)

Freepers must need new revenue:

I can think of one guy (new window) who's already signed up.

How I see the next four years is that, because of all the crises that were inevitably going to unfold regardless of who was president, Obama will be blamed. It just so happens that America picked a candidate unlike any other to lead us in this time that will be like no other, so it is natural that people are going to say "Obama is trying to regulate this" or "we should cut back our consumption of goods or live within our means" because any responsible person who was president right now would be saying that or they would be a terrible leader.

/obvious conclusion is obvious I know, I just wanted to say it

Simply put, what President-elect Obama and the Pelosi-Reid Congress have in store has the potential to rapidly move America to the socialist Left.

This probably won't happen. But there's always hope.

Chariset: FootInMouthDisease: i just left them an email ( left a fake email address ofcourse) suggesting they run off to idaho, form the wolverines and carry on with this circle-jerk in a fashion that wont impinge upon the other 303,000,000 citizens who are laughing at them

Hey! What'd Idaho do to deserve that??




They gave us Larry Craig

FootInMouthDisease: i just left them an email ( left a fake email address ofcourse) suggesting they run off to idaho, form the wolverines and carry on with this circle-jerk in a fashion that wont impinge upon the other 303,000,000 citizens who are laughing at them

Just under half the nation is with them, just not in the sort of bat shiat crazy way they are going about it.

Also, freedom of speech, which a 501(c)(4) is organized for, doesn't impinge on anybody's rights. However policies such as the "fairness doctrine" do.

That being said, they really are going about it in as bat shiat crazy a fashion as possible. Viva le resistance!

For subby.

/Click the link, get a Youtube video.

GaryPDX: That's a lot of people to be putting in camps.

But just think of all the jobs that will create!

Be like this guy! Sign up!

I tried reading their mission statement, but the white text on a black background is still burned into my retina.

On a semi-related note, I had another conversation with Dad over thanksgiving dinner. The topic of which was the impending Obama administration and the consequences thereof.

It did not go well, to say the least. Dad apparently believes the following:

1. Obama is a muslim.
2. 'teh terrorists' will succeed in a major terrorist attack on this country within the next 5 months.
3. The US has never tortured a single person locked up in Gitmo.
4. If we DID torture someone in Gitmo, they deserved it for dressing 'that way' (something about turbans, he was unclear on why).
5. Obama is a socialist.
6. socialism is bad.
7. all our current economic problems are the direct result of the policies of the 'Obama administration'.
8. [something about fairness doctrine]. not sure what he was talking about here, he was eating a lot of turkey at this point.


Conversation broke down at this point, when I asked him if he was 'christian'. he stopped for a moment and had this stunned look on his face. I repeated the question. He answered in the affirmative. I asked if he was sure about his answer. Again, he answered in the affirmative. so I asked him to explain the paradox in his beliefs concerning the 'war on terror', specifically how he could condone torture and still believe he was a Christian. there was much heated discussion, after which Dad sat silently in the living room with a glass of whiskey disguised as egg nogg and declared the conversation was over.

I really do wonder at times why I have these talks with Dad. I don't think they really do any good, and he's only becoming more delusional as time goes on. He really does believe that 'the Obama administration' screwed up the economy. this is despite the fact that Obama hasn't even been sworn in yet. Dad is rock solid in his beliefs and he won't listen to anything I say on the subject. And what's worse is that I don't think Dad is alone in his beliefs. I think he's merely one of a rather disturbingly large number of people who believe in the exact same things he does. THAT is what worries me.

RIDETHEWALRUS FootInMouthDisease: i just left them an email ( left a fake email address ofcourse) suggesting they run off to idaho, form the wolverines and carry on with this circle-jerk in a fashion that wont impinge upon the other 303,000,000 citizens who are laughing at them

Just under half the nation is with them, just not in the sort of bat shiat crazy way they are going about it.

Now thats incredibly unfair to the sane republicans, who legitimately felt McCain was the best choice for the country.

I know, and even work with several people who voted McCain, and are currently not apoplectic and frothing at the mouth whilst shiatting themselves and making obama voodoo dolls.

They are not entirely too concerned and are waiting for him to A.) be in office and B.) have done something before they make up their minds.

Its the internet republicans im worried about. atleast on fark.

/Yes they exist, and yes they make up a substantial portion of his base.

Check out the free preview of their booklet.

Wow.

RIDETHEWALRUS: Also, freedom of speech, which a 501(c)(4) is organized for, doesn't impinge on anybody's rights. However policies such as the "fairness doctrine" do.

Really?

How is it that the airwaves that are owned by every single American, equally, are now being turned into a subsidized right wing propaganda distribution system - but by mandating equal time for opposing viewpoints, this is now impacting free speech.

Another question I would love to have answered is, if you believe the media is left wing, how come you believe that having equal time for opposing viewpoints is a bad thing?

Free Speech: Always hilarious.

Republicans 2001-2008

Dissent and protest are traitorous. They should round up all those protesters and jail them for crimes against America. Its wrong to question our president during war time. Dissent is UN-American.

Republicans 2009-?

Protest and dissent are patriotic! SIGN UP to save America! We cannot support our president now or EVER!!!!

Republicans Since the beginning of time = HYPOCRITES

Random Reality Check: Another question I would love to have answered is, if you believe the media is left wing, how come you believe that having equal time for opposing viewpoints is a bad thing?

I still wonder how someone could claim 'socialism is bad', accuse Obama of being 'socialist' and then completely ignore the nationalization blitz orchestrated by President Bush. If socialism is bad, then so is President Bush and the Republicans who voted for his policies in Congress.

Hmmmm... I seem to remember the same group of people saying something like "Stand behind our president in a time of war."

Weaver95: 4. If we DID torture someone in Gitmo, they deserved it for dressing 'that way' (something about turbans, he was unclear on why)

That's just sikhening.


/i know, i know, it's not really pronounced that way

Weaver95: Oh sure - NOW they decide they don't like socialism. Bush nationalizes the farking banking system and they think Obama is a socialist!?

Morons.

It's not Socialism, but it is way too much intervention. A regressive transfer is hardly socialist.

citizen905: Be like this guy! Sign up!

Don't give them ideas -- UU churches have been shot up enough by neoconservative whackaloons.

/UU

Random Reality Check: Another question I would love to have answered is, if you believe the media is left wing, how come you believe that having equal time for opposing viewpoints is a bad thing?

Hah! Nice catch.

Pic of the leader of the resistance

horse-pheathers: citizen905: Be like this guy! Sign up!

Don't give them ideas -- UU churches have been shot up enough by neoconservative whackaloons.

/UU

Dad was going on about how 'teh terrorists' were going to blow stuff up here in the US. He mentioned how he believed that current events in India are 'obviously the results of Al Qeda' and are a 'trial run' for attacks here in this country.

none of which I understood. If anyone was gonna get violent on the home front, I'd look for the KKK and turner diary nutballs as point men in that sort of attack.

Random Reality Check: Another question I would love to have answered is, if you believe the media is left wing, how come you believe that having equal time for opposing viewpoints is a bad thing?

This is an excellent point.

I'm sure there is some lame excuse to cover it, though. Either that or an extreme case of cognitive dissonance.

Or both. Probably both.

RIDETHEWALRUS: However policies such as the "fairness doctrine" do.

Good thing Obama has said repeatedly that he has no interest in reinstating the Fairness Doctrine, there aren't anywhere near the near-unanimity of Congressional Democrats that would be needed to push it as a law, and there are plenty of non-FCC options available anyway.

Random Reality Check: RIDETHEWALRUS: Also, freedom of speech, which a 501(c)(4) is organized for, doesn't impinge on anybody's rights. However policies such as the "fairness doctrine" do.

Really?

How is it that the airwaves that are owned by every single American, equally, are now being turned into a subsidized right wing propaganda distribution system - but by mandating equal time for opposing viewpoints, this is now impacting free speech.

Another question I would love to have answered is, if you believe the media is left wing, how come you believe that having equal time for opposing viewpoints is a bad thing?

You've hit the bullseye on their argument, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards, Checkmate.

Weaver95: On a semi-related note, I had another conversation with Dad over thanksgiving dinner. The topic of which was the impending Obama administration and the consequences thereof.

It did not go well, to say the least. Dad apparently believes the following:

1. Obama is a muslim.
2. 'teh terrorists' will succeed in a major terrorist attack on this country within the next 5 months.
3. The US has never tortured a single person locked up in Gitmo.
4. If we DID torture someone in Gitmo, they deserved it for dressing 'that way' (something about turbans, he was unclear on why).
5. Obama is a socialist.
6. socialism is bad.
7. all our current economic problems are the direct result of the policies of the 'Obama administration'.
8. [something about fairness doctrine]. not sure what he was talking about here, he was eating a lot of turkey at this point.


Conversation broke down at this point, when I asked him if he was 'christian'. he stopped for a moment and had this stunned look on his face. I repeated the question. He answered in the affirmative. I asked if he was sure about his answer. Again, he answered in the affirmative. so I asked him to explain the paradox in his beliefs concerning the 'war on terror', specifically how he could condone torture and still believe he was a Christian. there was much heated discussion, after which Dad sat silently in the living room with a glass of whiskey disguised as egg nogg and declared the conversation was over.

I really do wonder at times why I have these talks with Dad. I don't think they really do any good, and he's only becoming more delusional as time goes on. He really does believe that 'the Obama administration' screwed up the economy. this is despite the fact that Obama hasn't even been sworn in yet. Dad is rock solid in his beliefs and he won't listen to anything I say on the subject. And what's worse is that I don't think Dad is alone in his beliefs. I think he's merely one of a rather disturbingly large number of people who believe in the exact same things he does. THAT is what worries me.

It's these darker realities heavily represented in the way of contemporary American political thought that makes me doubt whether democracy is an adequate interpretation for our innate political tendencies. It makes me worry whether the structure of the Greek polis as a model for a healthy political body, or Arendt's wonderful insight on the possibilities of human freedom --that these are just pipe dreams. It worries me that Plato and Hobbes were right...

Weaver95: I still wonder how someone could claim 'socialism is bad', accuse Obama of being 'socialist' and then completely ignore the nationalization blitz orchestrated by President Bush. If socialism is bad, then so is President Bush and the Republicans who voted for his policies in Congress.

Apparently, when the government nationalizes an industry (since the entire banking system is not yet currently nationalized, I suppose there is room for debate) it is not socialism, it is a "regressive transfer" or something.

Likwit: It's not Socialism, but it is way too much intervention. A regressive transfer is hardly socialist.


Biological Ali: Random Reality Check: Another question I would love to have answered is, if you believe the media is left wing, how come you believe that having equal time for opposing viewpoints is a bad thing?

Hah! Nice catch.

The RIchest Man in Babylon: This is an excellent point.

I'm sure there is some lame excuse to cover it, though. Either that or an extreme case of cognitive dissonance.

Or both. Probably both.

Gentlemen,

I'm pretty sure someone esle mentioned something like this. If I could remember who I would be glad to give them credit.

Still, the point is valid and I am still looking for someone to answer the question.

weaver -

i think we have the same father.

I'm afraid to look. Is it nuttier than hillary44?

giantnine: weaver -

i think we have the same father.

Weaver was hatched. From a faberge egg nursed by a turkey buzzard.

Those "family-values traditionalists" should clam up if we threaten to take away their welfare.

(coloration based on the 2004 election)

Weaver95: horse-pheathers: citizen905: Be like this guy! Sign up!

Don't give them ideas -- UU churches have been shot up enough by neoconservative whackaloons.

/UU

Dad was going on about how 'teh terrorists' were going to blow stuff up here in the US. He mentioned how he believed that current events in India are 'obviously the results of Al Qeda' and are a 'trial run' for attacks here in this country.

none of which I understood. If anyone was gonna get violent on the home front, I'd look for the KKK and turner diary nutballs as point men in that sort of attack.

I agree. Us evil leftists are too busy planning public orgies and corrupting babies with teh ghey to bother with any of that violent stuff.... :P

Wow. They are scared. They are a bunch of scared little scaredy-cat schoolgirls, they are so scared.

horse-pheathers: I agree. Us evil leftists are too busy planning public orgies and corrupting babies with teh ghey to bother with any of that violent stuff.... :P

y'know, that brings up another thing. Maybe I'm reading too much into websites like this link, but it's almost as if a segment of the radical right is praying for a terrorist attack on this country. It's like they need a terrorist attack so that they can feel validated in their decision NOT to vote for Obama.

I dunno. I could be wrong about that. Hope that I am.

Weaver95: I still wonder how someone could claim 'socialism is bad', accuse Obama of being 'socialist' and then completely ignore the nationalization blitz orchestrated by President Bush. If socialism is bad, then so is President Bush and the Republicans who voted for his policies in Congress.

You could make the case that funding industry and commerce without gaining any control in return isn't exactly socialist. Using the resources of the state to prop up the major industrial players used to be considered a tad more on the fascist side of the spectrum. (Of course, the word "socialist" has now been so watered down it can mean anything short of feudalism.)

drdonks: How I see the next four years is that, because of all the crises that were inevitably going to unfold regardless of who was president, Obama will be blamed. It just so happens that America picked a candidate unlike any other to lead us in this time that will be like no other, so it is natural that people are going to say "Obama is trying to regulate this" or "we should cut back our consumption of goods or live within our means" because any responsible person who was president right now would be saying that or they would be a terrible leader.


"People are losing their jobs, Joe. What would you have me do?"
"Endure, Mister Obama. Take it. They'll hate you for it, but that's the point of being President, he can be the outcast. He can make the choice that no one else can make, the right choice."