They streamed the entire Death Magnetic album on their website when it first came out. I reluctantly listened to the whole thing, and it made me a Metallica fan again. I ended up buying it, and this was after I had sworn never to give them a cent of my money again.

Lars got with the farking program on that one. He's still a selfish douche for other reasons though.

Metallica isn't about the music anymore. It's about how much cash they can grab from you suckers. It's not metal, it's a corporation.

If you're still buying into Metallica in 2008, you're feeding their greed.

Metallica stopped being about the music right after AJFA came out.

I didn't realize The Corporate Whores Starring Lars Ulrich was still making new songs.

Norad: Metallica isn't about the music anymore. It's about how much cash they can grab from you suckers. It's not metal, it's a corporation.

If you're still buying into Metallica in 2008, you're feeding their greed.

Metallica stopped being about the music right after AJFA came out.

Because 90% of the time people start bands for the music.

Norad: Metallica isn't about the music anymore. It's about how much cash they can grab from you suckers. It's not metal, it's a corporation.

If you're still buying into Metallica in 2008, you're feeding their greed.

Metallica stopped being about the music right after AJFA came out.

Dude, have you HEARD the new album? It's a return to the sound of AJFA.

I realize the band is quite literally a corporation now, and I still hate Lars...but LISTEN to the new record.

I still think James Hetfield is a cool guy though, regardless. He's still sincere. He's the opposite of Lars. If you watch their endless bickering in Some Kind of Monster, it's obvious which one is the douche and which one is the guy just trying to farking do his thing.

They ought to do us all a favor and release it into the crapper.

FlyingPig: They streamed the entire Death Magnetic album on their website when it first came out. I reluctantly listened to the whole thing, and it made me a Metallica fan again.

The how and the whatnow? Did you become a Metallica fan over "Load" or something? Death Magnetic sucks hard enough to propel a monkey through 200 ft. of garden hose.

To be honest, they tried hard to sound like they once did, but between poor passion for what they are doing, and crappy production where it seems the producer were forced to have every slider and button on his mixer twisted to 11 in order for the album to sound "loud", it ends up sorely disappointing. I really can't take a band who questions their fans ability to operate a volume control seriously.

Metallica became dead to me as they released "Load", and they still are.

He adds: "I wouldn't hold my breath for another Metallica record. I'm still decompressing and coming down from the whole experience of the last one, but if we spit one out every four or five years that's not so bad."

dear Lars,
FARK YOU!!! Slayer is already about to put out another album. And it doesn't seem to take them 3 years in a studio to put one out. I was annoyed it took 9 months to get the black album out, then you go and take what, 3 years in the studio for DM? This is why Machine Head has beat you out as my favorite band you tennis playing douchenozzle.

So, instead of not going to the store to not buy their crappy music, I can sit in the comfort of my own home and not buy it? Awesome!

Watching the 'Global Metal' documentary, I was quite taken aback by the segment where Lars is interviewed, and has completely changed his stance on music downloads.

When confronted by the fact that many people in 3rd World, or oppressive regimes, only have access to metal and Western music by downloading it (illegally), he said that it is great and they fully support their music being introduced into new areas through any means. He also stated that a few years ago, there was some mishandling of the music download situation.

I found that interview segment quite amusing.

Asty: Watching the 'Global Metal' documentary, I was quite taken aback by the segment where Lars is interviewed, and has completely changed his stance on music downloads.

When confronted by the fact that many people in 3rd World, or oppressive regimes, only have access to metal and Western music by downloading it (illegally), he said that it is great and they fully support their music being introduced into new areas through any means. He also stated that a few years ago, there was some mishandling of the music download situation.

I found that interview segment quite amusing.

He's always said it was never about the money - it was that the track in question was literally stolen before it was ready for release.

Asty: Watching the 'Global Metal' documentary, I was quite taken aback by the segment where Lars is interviewed, and has completely changed his stance on music downloads.

When confronted by the fact that many people in 3rd World, or oppressive regimes, only have access to metal and Western music by downloading it (illegally), he said that it is great and they fully support their music being introduced into new areas through any means. He also stated that a few years ago, there was some mishandling of the music download situation.

I found that interview segment quite amusing.

danduran: Asty: Watching the 'Global Metal' documentary, I was quite taken aback by the segment where Lars is interviewed, and has completely changed his stance on music downloads.

When confronted by the fact that many people in 3rd World, or oppressive regimes, only have access to metal and Western music by downloading it (illegally), he said that it is great and they fully support their music being introduced into new areas through any means. He also stated that a few years ago, there was some mishandling of the music download situation.

I found that interview segment quite amusing.

He's always said it was never about the money - it was that the track in question was literally stolen before it was ready for release.

I understand all this, but watch Lars in Some Kind of Monster. Watch when he sells his crappy painting at some yuppie auction for millions of dollars, and has to get rip-ass drunk because he's depressed over the "pain" of parting with his farking artwork. If that's not a douche, I don't know what is. He needs to go meet some people with REAL problems.

FlyingPig: Asty: Watching the 'Global Metal' documentary, I was quite taken aback by the segment where Lars is interviewed, and has completely changed his stance on music downloads.

When confronted by the fact that many people in 3rd World, or oppressive regimes, only have access to metal and Western music by downloading it (illegally), he said that it is great and they fully support their music being introduced into new areas through any means. He also stated that a few years ago, there was some mishandling of the music download situation.

I found that interview segment quite amusing.

danduran: Asty: Watching the 'Global Metal' documentary, I was quite taken aback by the segment where Lars is interviewed, and has completely changed his stance on music downloads.

When confronted by the fact that many people in 3rd World, or oppressive regimes, only have access to metal and Western music by downloading it (illegally), he said that it is great and they fully support their music being introduced into new areas through any means. He also stated that a few years ago, there was some mishandling of the music download situation.

I found that interview segment quite amusing.

He's always said it was never about the money - it was that the track in question was literally stolen before it was ready for release.

I understand all this, but watch Lars in Some Kind of Monster. Watch when he sells his crappy painting at some yuppie auction for millions of dollars, and has to get rip-ass drunk because he's depressed over the "pain" of parting with his farking artwork. If that's not a douche, I don't know what is. He needs to go meet some people with REAL problems.

Maybe it was a symptom of another real problem? Being affluent and having different scenarios does not mean that the cog wheels are different.

If you can be poor and murder someone, rich and murder someone, having some farking problems isn't isolated to a specific class.

Money does not mean you're perfect in every farking way and can never have trouble, either personal or public. That is a myth perpetuated by people who wish to demonize those who have what they do not. It's farking petty, and it's gone on long enough.

DeathByGeekSquad: Maybe it was a symptom of another real problem? Being affluent and having different scenarios does not mean that the cog wheels are different.

If you can be poor and murder someone, rich and murder someone, having some farking problems isn't isolated to a specific class.

Money does not mean you're perfect in every farking way and can never have trouble, either personal or public. That is a myth perpetuated by people who wish to demonize those who have what they do not. It's farking petty, and it's gone on long enough.

If you read further up, I defended Hetfield, and said how much I respected him, from what I saw in the movie, in contrast to Lars. Hetfield DOES have some real problems, he bottled them up for a long time (which arguably was what made Metallica's music so powerful in the old days), then he got older and decided to deal with them like an adult. I never said people with money couldn't have real problems.

Lars is a farking douche.

FlyingPig: DeathByGeekSquad: Maybe it was a symptom of another real problem? Being affluent and having different scenarios does not mean that the cog wheels are different.

If you can be poor and murder someone, rich and murder someone, having some farking problems isn't isolated to a specific class.

Money does not mean you're perfect in every farking way and can never have trouble, either personal or public. That is a myth perpetuated by people who wish to demonize those who have what they do not. It's farking petty, and it's gone on long enough.

If you read further up, I defended Hetfield, and said how much I respected him, from what I saw in the movie, in contrast to Lars. Hetfield DOES have some real problems, he bottled them up for a long time (which arguably was what made Metallica's music so powerful in the old days), then he got older and decided to deal with them like an adult. I never said people with money couldn't have real problems.

Lars is a farking douche.

You see what is released to the public. Yes, Hetfield has issues, as does every other member of the band, as they've all struggled with personal demons. Did you know that Lars put most of his early money into artwork? That he took a gamble, betting that the art he treasured would still be worth something down the road?

Does he strike you as anyone who has a normal state of mind? Every story you hear, interview he gives, suggests deeper internal struggles. It's easy to label someone a douche and forget about it, takes a lot more to question what is causing such behavior.

Why is he a control freak? Why is he so insecure? Those types of problems can have a much more disasterous impact on a persons life than financial situations. Poor people can be happy, content, and come to accept their situation.

The primary difference between Hetfield and Lars is that Hetfield openly accepted his issues. Where Het would shut down and avoid everyone when anxiety arises, Lars goes out and tries to control the entire situation. Two different ways of handling the same internal issues. Why doesn't Lars do the same? Was there something in his childhood which imprinted him with the belief that such things aren't kosher?

Most of the world doesn't deal with their problems, that's a fact. People who do are a very small minority, many folks find ways of minimizing their issues, but they don't work on them.

I bought Death Magnetic online too. Hey, I like it.

Vinyl, cd, download, holographic pyramid...who t f cares?

These guys are NEVER getting any of my money.

I actually liked the Black Album and some of Load and ReLoad, though the latter where pretty much all of that stuff is shiat. I'm thinking of exceptions such as "Ain't My biatch" and "I Disappear" (yes, I know it was a non-album single).

Anyway, they REALLY lost it on St. Anger, and the new one? I listened to a few tracks, and it's like some cheesy cover band trying to write songs like Metalica but they can't pull it off. It sounds too forced, the songs are weak, then they try to "make them better" by putting in FANCY CHANGES! but it doesn't work. I think it's worse that St. Anger in that way!! St. Anger was crap, but it was original ... and some of the tracks are not TOTALLY lame -- if I get beyond the craptastic drum sounds and all.

Anyway, yeah, Metalica = Self Parody

Give it up Metallica, people aren't going to magically forget that you sued them for the very thing that made you famous in the first place. Cliff Burton is spinning in his grave.

DICKWEED!

Joystk:
Because 90% of the time people start bands for the music.

I'd say yes, yes they do. At least in metal. If you are looking to get rich quick of a style of music, metal isn't the right course.

Metallica sucks.

/We now return you to your regularly scheduled broadcast.

//(Metallica Sucks!)

Subby, it's only "ironic" if you don't understand what the issue behind them suing Napster was.

El Freak: Subby, it's only "ironic" if you don't understand what the issue behind them suing Napster was.

Subby here, and I've already said above what the issue was. But greenlights don't happen by playing nice, do they?

Douchenozzle made me ROFL..

Hats off to you sir..

I have a legitemate question - how long have they had their contract with Warner, and how do we expect that the end of the contract will effect the band and their music?

I've had enough of Metallica. Acting like a douche towards the large number of people who legally bought your music because of a minority who choose to steal from you, and then desperately clawing for more money and popularity by ignoring your own past, is just amazingly silly. I wanted to get Metallica on iTunes when the music store launched (and for years after). I wanted to buy their early albums. When I couldn't get them legally, rather than steal from them, I just didn't listen to them. Now they suddenly are making a play for my generation because we're the ones buying music? Screw it.

I won't even torrent their music.

renlibrarian: I've had enough of Metallica. Acting like a douche towards the large number of people who legally bought your music because of a minority who choose to steal from you, and then desperately clawing for more money and popularity by ignoring your own past, is just amazingly silly. I wanted to get Metallica on iTunes when the music store launched (and for years after). I wanted to buy their early albums. When I couldn't get them legally, rather than steal from them, I just didn't listen to them. Now they suddenly are making a play for my generation because we're the ones buying music? Screw it.

Is amazon.com blocked in your house? Are there no record stores in your city?

Kenwhat: It's not ironic. They're opposed to people usurping their distribution rights and violating their copyrights, not digital formats or distribution.

The irony is that irony doesn't actually exist. Do try to keep up.

Master of Puppets was the last good album metallica has ever made.

FlyingPig:
Dude, have you HEARD the new album? It's a return to the sound of AJFA.


But it fell way short of the goal.

/and I liked the guitar solos - when I first heard them 15-20 years ago
//lots of deja vu with Death Magnetic
///feels all green and recycled

sotua: FlyingPig:
Dude, have you HEARD the new album? It's a return to the sound of AJFA.


But it fell way short of the goal.

/and I liked the guitar solos - when I first heard them 15-20 years ago
//lots of deja vu with Death Magnetic
///feels all green and recycled

"Metallica sold out! They stopped being good after the 80s. Whee did the solos go?"
*new album*
"Metallica is stuck in the past, those solos were great 15-20 years ago, not so much anymore."

Proving once again that Metallica Haters are usually just as douchey as they claim Metallica is.

If you think about it, they laid the groundwork for much of the metal out there. (not discrediting Sabbath) Considering most of the metal bands out there now grew up listening and playing Metallica songs it's only natural that Metallica's new stuff sounds like everything else.

My only complaint has been that Hetfield's vocals just don't carry like they once did.

DeathByGeekSquad: sotua: FlyingPig:
Dude, have you HEARD the new album? It's a return to the sound of AJFA.


But it fell way short of the goal.

/and I liked the guitar solos - when I first heard them 15-20 years ago
//lots of deja vu with Death Magnetic
///feels all green and recycled

"Metallica sold out! They stopped being good after the 80s. Whee did the solos go?"
*new album*
"Metallica is stuck in the past, those solos were great 15-20 years ago, not so much anymore."

Proving once again that Metallica Haters are usually just as douchey as they claim Metallica is.

No, seriously. I'm one of those few that liked everything up to ReLoad. I do not think that they sold out. I didn't like St. Anger at all (the production is a big turn off, and the music isn't good enough to endure that tin can snare), but I'm not your standard "Metallica died with Cliff", "sellouts", etc. In fact, my favorite Metallica bass player is Jason.

Death Magnetic, while infinitely better than St. Anger, gives me too much of "I've heard this before" feeling to really enjoy it, the solos in particular are full of 1984-1986 Hammett's licks. And it's not that I no longer like metal (I like heavier and lighter stuff than Metallica), it's just that DM really doesn't do it, and I honestly think that this album, while a decent effort, isn't all that good.

/It's one thing to have a signature sound, but another to completely plagiarize yourself.