Seeing the sudden wave of American Thinker submissions hitting TotalFark and for some unknown reason suffering through reading three of the pieces, I have to wonder... is any genuine thought to be found in American Thinker?

The continuous assault on Sarah Palin is not so difficult to understand. In fact, it can be summed up thusly: she's a woman opposed to abortion.

Uh... no.

I wish they'd put some thought into their articles. Any at all would be nice.

whiskeyinthejar: The continuous assault on Sarah Palin is not so difficult to understand. In fact, it can be summed up thusly: she's a woman opposed to abortion.

Uh... no.

Talk about an insane incapability to understand your opponents.

A black who can think and act independently is likely to be the victim of a "high-tech lynching," as Justice Thomas referred to it during the outrageous Anita Hill imbroglio.

This.

If Barack Obama was a conservative he would have received the same kind of treatment that Clarence Thomas and Sarah Palin got from the media.

JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: If Barack Obama was a conservative he would have received the same kind of treatment that Clarence Thomas and Sarah Palin got from the media.

He's not. He's a moderate. So you can STFU now.

JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: A black who can think and act independently is likely to be the victim of a "high-tech lynching," as Justice Thomas referred to it during the outrageous Anita Hill imbroglio.

This.

If Barack Obama was a conservative he would have received the same kind of treatment that Clarence Thomas and Sarah Palin got from the media.

Wait...are you saying that Obama is incapable of independent thought, or are you saying he isn't conservative?

What, was Palin caught putting her pubes in peoples cokes too?

JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: If Barack Obama was a conservative he would have received the same kind of treatment that Clarence Thomas and Sarah Palin got from the media.

Yes, because all the rich conservatives that own all the media outlets just absolutely hate conservatives and support democrats that they fear will raise their taxes.

IT'S SO OBVIOUS NOW!

FTA: Bob Weir is a former detective sergeant in the New York City Police Department. He is the executive editor of The News Connection in Highland Village, Texas.

That's some impressive credentials there, Bob.

Sarah Palin was stupid, regardless of her abortion stance.

But then again these are the same people who say black people all voted for Obama for the simple fact that he's black too.

Article is pretty spot-on from where I sit... Anyone see "Doonesbury" today? Gary had to even reach back and bring up Quayle... It's the same shiat all over again.

For anyone who cares to investigate the truth, Quayle is actually a pretty nice & cool guy. Of course, that was never allowed to be stated for the last 20 years.

/not republican
//did not vote for mccain/palin

These two don't belong:

1) "The continuous assault on Sarah Palin is not so difficult to understand. In fact, it can be summed up thusly: she's a woman opposed to abortion. "

2)

whiskeyinthejar: The continuous assault on Sarah Palin is not so difficult to understand. In fact, it can be summed up thusly: she's a woman opposed to abortion.

Uh... no.

Her opposition to abortion isn't the cause of the assault, it's merely another effect of the cause of the assault.

DeaH: JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: A black who can think and act independently is likely to be the victim of a "high-tech lynching," as Justice Thomas referred to it during the outrageous Anita Hill imbroglio.

This.

If Barack Obama was a conservative he would have received the same kind of treatment that Clarence Thomas and Sarah Palin got from the media.

Wait...are you saying that Obama is incapable of independent thought, or are you saying he isn't conservative?

I am saying that he isn't conservative, and while I think he is capable of independent thought I think that the media would not be kind to him if he were a conservative.

NewportBarGuy: JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: If Barack Obama was a conservative he would have received the same kind of treatment that Clarence Thomas and Sarah Palin got from the media.

He's not. He's a moderate. So you can STFU now.


How is one of the most liberal members of the U.S. Senate a "moderate"?

Yea, it's because she is ignorant, is corrupt, lies, is divisive, is anti-American, is a hypocrite, has terrible judgment, speaks as if she has a serious learning disability, was a crappy mayor, doesn't know what the VP's job is, is an awful mother, and has a bizarre and unpopular stance on the Iraq war abortion.

I thought she was lambasted in the press because she is a christian fundamentalist, vapid and very unintelligent.

TwistedFark: What, was Palin caught putting her pubes in peoples cokes too?

JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: If Barack Obama was a conservative he would have received the same kind of treatment that Clarence Thomas and Sarah Palin got from the media.

Yes, because all the rich conservatives that own all the media outlets just absolutely hate conservatives and support democrats that they fear will raise their taxes.

IT'S SO OBVIOUS NOW!

That story was such bullshiat.

And the reason the media does that is for narrative, not because of some overarching political philosophy.

skylabdown: Article is pretty spot-on from where I sit... Anyone see "Doonesbury" today? Gary had to even reach back and bring up Quayle... It's the same shiat all over again.

For anyone who cares to investigate the truth, Quayle is actually a pretty nice & cool guy. Of course, that was never allowed to be stated for the last 20 years.

/not republican
//did not vote for mccain/palin

This Doonesbury? (new window) 'Cause that's the one I saw.

Misleading headline. Article was merely crying about Sarah Palin being criticized for being a female abortion foe. And crying about criticism against Clarence Thomas blaming all criticism on him being a conservative black. No intelligent thought in The Thinker.

The author makes the assumption that Palin is the first woman opposed to abortion (she's not the first elected woman in the GOP is she?), that liberals are racist because Clarence Thomas is conservative, and that it's okay to use the term pro-abortion instead of pro-choice implying that pro-choice supporters LIKE abortions.

What I don't like about Palin's stance and moral hypocrisy was when she claimed that her daughter wanted to keep her baby and how she was proud of her because of it. But previously, when interviewed, she claimed that any dependent should require permission of the parents to have an abortion, and that she'd never give it to her own daughter.

Palin has so many horrible policy ideas; here abortion stance is just one of many. I don't see why that would have been the only thing that got the media fired up against her.

The_Sponge: NewportBarGuy: JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: If Barack Obama was a conservative he would have received the same kind of treatment that Clarence Thomas and Sarah Palin got from the media.

He's not. He's a moderate. So you can STFU now.


How is one of the most liberal members of the U.S. Senate a "moderate"?

You've been listening to Rush too much.

evilboyevil: But previously, when interviewed, she claimed that any dependent should require permission of the parents to have an abortion, and that she'd never give it to her own daughter.

I never saw this.

JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: If Barack Obama was a conservative he would have received the same kind of treatment that Clarence Thomas and Sarah Palin got from the media.

You know, everyone seems ashamed to say this, but maybe it's because modern conservatism has been found to be utter and complete bullshiat? Conservatism harks back to a time when women and blacks knew their place, America was far and away #1, and you didn't question authority and any advances came from the top down. I'm sorry, but conservatism is not the future because it is inherently backward-looking. Things, times and people change. White conservatives have been taking their lumps too. Black conservatives simply get more flak because they espouse not merely an archaic ideology, but an archaic ideology that doesn't benefit them, as currently practiced.

The one area of conservatism that might, maybe, have made some sense is economic. And now it's been shown to be BS in practice. Small government and lower taxes translates to: let the unregulated rich get away with doing more shiat, and keep a larger percentage of the spoils. Joe the Plumber shows that poor people bought into this tripe. And it's sad. Funny to see many of the people who are all about small gov't twist themselves into knots to argue that the gov't can't "let" this or that industry fail, all so they can maintain their standard of living. You don't get to have it both ways. If you're going to argue for conservatism, you better be a rugged individualist ready to return to some Wild West style justice. Because all conservatism is, is "I'm gonna get mine. You're on your own."

/rant off

jcooli09: The_Sponge: NewportBarGuy: JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: If Barack Obama was a conservative he would have received the same kind of treatment that Clarence Thomas and Sarah Palin got from the media.

He's not. He's a moderate. So you can STFU now.


How is one of the most liberal members of the U.S. Senate a "moderate"?

You've been listening to Rush too much.

How can you say that? Getty Lee kicks ass!

The_Sponge: How is one of the most liberal members of the U.S. Senate a "moderate"?

Can you please tell me what Obama believes in which is to the left of most of the Democratic party?

svegle: But then again these are the same people who say black people all voted for Obama for the simple fact that he's black too

This one makes me laugh the most because in order for it to have even an ounce of credibility, one must completely ignore the fact that for as long as most of those voters have been alive they have always voted for democrats.

I mean, really, haven't the GOP been paying attention; Newsflash, most black people don't like you. This should go up there with phrases such as "the sky is blue", "water is wet" and "fire is hot".

I certainly don't see this fact changing anytime soon, especially not after the vile muck they riled up during this campaign.

Honestly, the GOP needs to get it's head out of it's ass or someone needs to rise up to take their place because they've completely lost Blacks, they're losing Jews, they've lost Women and they're rapidly on their way to completely alienating Hispanics as well. White fundamentalist Christian males are certainly not a big enough demographic to win nationally and it certainly isn't enough to build a national policy platform around that isn't going to piss almost everyone else off.

Sure, they may have a couple of more elections in them, but if demographics keep trending the way they are then eventually it'll be statistically impossible for them to win damn near anywhere unless they start pulling in people from other demographics.

Opiate of the Lasses: You know, everyone seems ashamed to say this, but maybe it's because modern conservatism has been found to be utter and complete bullshiat?

That too.

skylabdown: For anyone who cares to investigate the truth, Quayle is actually a pretty nice & cool guy

But he was in no way, shape, or form qualified to be a chicken bone away from the presidency.

I know lots of nice, cool people. But I don't want to see most of them in a position of power. Vice President is not Prom King; it is certainly not the job for an intellectual lightweight. Which is, along with (according to you) "nice" and "cool," an accurate description of J. Danforth Quayle.

It is nothing more than cruelty to place such horribly unqualified people up for jobs they are not suited for, and to do it in front the eyes of the world. The very properties that make them unsuitable for such positions also prevent them from realizing their unsuitability.

Oh, and fark Clarence Thomas. Intellectually incurious jerk off (pops) is a disgrace to thinking blacks everywhere.

Basically, this article is the right-wing equivalent of when liberals say someone won't vote for Obama because he/she is racist. It overlooks every single factor as to why people wouldn't support a candidate and blames it on something trivial, like her being pro-life. I hope foreign people don't see the "American Thinker" and think all of America is this stupid.

Opiate of the Lasses: Oh, and fark Clarence Thomas. Intellectually incurious jerk off (pops) is a disgrace to thinking blacks everywhere.

This is the man who said in his book that he feared liberals more than the KKK while growing up in the deep South.

And here I thought it was b/c she keeps on making herself a target by saying and doing stupid things.

I will give Clarence Thomas one compliment: he has been smart enough to keep a looooooooooooooooooow profile, rather than constantly remind us how he squeaked by into a job he didn't merit.

Palin, on the other hand, seems to think that the more she talks, the smarter she appears.

/Anti. So very, very anti.

JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: DeaH: JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: A black who can think and act independently is likely to be the victim of a "high-tech lynching," as Justice Thomas referred to it during the outrageous Anita Hill imbroglio.

This.

If Barack Obama was a conservative he would have received the same kind of treatment that Clarence Thomas and Sarah Palin got from the media.

Wait...are you saying that Obama is incapable of independent thought, or are you saying he isn't conservative?

I am saying that he isn't conservative, and while I think he is capable of independent thought I think that the media would not be kind to him if he were a conservative.

But that wasn't Thomas's or the author's point. Their point is that the media is incapable of treating a black man well who is capable of independent thought or action. That may or may not intersect with conservatism (depending on how it's being defined), but it is not the same as conservatism. Clearly, Obama can think and act on his own, so he is the point that disproves their contention.

Your contention may not be without merit, but Thomas and Weir? Dead wrong.

JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: DeaH: JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: A black who can think and act independently is likely to be the victim of a "high-tech lynching," as Justice Thomas referred to it during the outrageous Anita Hill imbroglio.

This.

If Barack Obama was a conservative he would have received the same kind of treatment that Clarence Thomas and Sarah Palin got from the media.

Wait...are you saying that Obama is incapable of independent thought, or are you saying he isn't conservative?

I am saying that he isn't conservative, and while I think he is capable of independent thought I think that the media would not be kind to him if he were a conservative.

The media wasn't kind to him for much of his campaign.

Aside from the abortion issue, I kinda feel sorry for her because if she was just a little smarter, she would know she wasn't smart enough to go up against the kind of opponent Obama would be, and the kind of press that was created around him. It ate her up.

The_Sponge: How is one of the most liberal members of the U.S. Senate a "moderate"?

The key phrase here is "in the Senate".

Tribune of the Plebs: jcooli09: The_Sponge: NewportBarGuy: JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: If Barack Obama was a conservative he would have received the same kind of treatment that Clarence Thomas and Sarah Palin got from the media.

He's not. He's a moderate. So you can STFU now.


How is one of the most liberal members of the U.S. Senate a "moderate"?

You've been listening to Rush too much.

How can you say that? Getty Lee kicks ass!

Dude, there's a jet in our yard in the shape of a bass guitar and it's painted with a giant owl swooping down from the moon.

JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: A black who can think and act independently is likely to be the victim of a "high-tech lynching," as Justice Thomas referred to it during the outrageous Anita Hill imbroglio.

This.

If Barack Obama was a conservative he would have received the same kind of treatment that Clarence Thomas and Sarah Palin got from the media.

If she really took offense or was treated that badly, I for one wold not have followed the guy to another job. But thats just me

JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: DeaH: JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: A black who can think and act independently is likely to be the victim of a "high-tech lynching," as Justice Thomas referred to it during the outrageous Anita Hill imbroglio.

This.

If Barack Obama was a conservative he would have received the same kind of treatment that Clarence Thomas and Sarah Palin got from the media.

Wait...are you saying that Obama is incapable of independent thought, or are you saying he isn't conservative?

I am saying that he isn't conservative, and while I think he is capable of independent thought I think that the media would not be kind to him if he were a conservative.

You mean how they softballed him with the Muslim bullshiat, the Wright bullshiat, tried to tie him to terrorists, kept on his wife, and the MArxist bullshiat, which is so retarded I don't even have words?

How fukking stupid are you?

She's filled with copious amounts of highly entertaining fail that's effortless to extract from her. Media outlets would be foolish to let her fade away before she went stale.

Interesting that the author mentions liberals who "polarize the country". Yet the whole article is nothing but a partisan attack.

Standard straw man. Assign to liberals beliefs and motives. Then condemn them for those beliefs and motives.

What gets lost is any attempt at fact checking.
Do liberals really oppose all women who oppose abortion?
Do liberals really fear black conservatives?
Do liberals really want to polarize the country?

Finally I would like to close with my favorite two sentences from the article.

According to some nebulous formula that only exists in the maladjusted minds of mental misfits, every black person should be reading from the same script.

Yet the author seems to think every liberal reads from the same script.

For these ideological narcissists, nothing is more important than the continued growth and consolidation of their power base. They wouldn't spend a New York minute on the examination of a candidate's qualification, education or history of accomplishment.

If you look at the author's other articles you find he attacks Obama without ever considering his qualifications, education or accomplishments.

The_Sponge: NewportBarGuy: JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: If Barack Obama was a conservative he would have received the same kind of treatment that Clarence Thomas and Sarah Palin got from the media.

He's not. He's a moderate. So you can STFU now.


How is one of the most liberal members of the U.S. Senate a "moderate"?

By virtue of political orientations being so badly skewed in the minds of America's dwindling, failing right-wing fanatics. Obama stands to the right of JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Carter - and most of the Presidents who have served in my lifetime. He is, in essence, a DINO, like Clinton. Dig it, dude - the "Reagan revolution" was a scam. It was never real. It was just a hustle to put the wealth of this nation in "fewer, righter, tighter hands" - just like Bush Sr. promised. It is only because we are still waking from this national nightmare that anyone could even call Obama a "liberal" with a straight face.
There is no legitimate "conservative" opinion left in this country. For now, American Conservatism is dead - and you on the right killed it. Live with what you have done, and try to learn something from it. You might as well, because you won't have any more power to wield in this nation for a long, long, LONG time.

generaltimmy: If she really took offense or was treated that badly, I for one wold not have followed the guy to another job. But thats just me

Never been a black woman in the '80s, have you?

Employment for a professional black woman in the Reagan economy was not that easy to come by. She admitted to that being her motivation for continuing to work with him - that she needed to get out of the Department of Education.

Her story was backed up by multiple witnesses of both genders. Had David Brock not been employed by the Republicans to force another witness to back down, it's highly unlikely that Thomas would have been confirmed.

captainktainer: Employment for a professional black woman in the Reagan economy was not that easy to come by.


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