Do I stutter?!

Yeha, don't let the feds do their freakin' job. Ride 'em cowboy Perry. Jerk.

/we still need our low-paid illegal labor
//live in TX; see it every day
///sad, but true: even with all the risks some of the best opportunity is north of the border for those folks

\wonder what Obama will do with this immigration mess

Illegal immigration is a made-up problem. (That said, if anyone is able to show a significant difference in crime rate between undocumented aliens and the remainder of the population, I'll be very interested.)

/Actual crimes with victims, that is, not their "immigration crime".

"I am outraged to learn that thousands of criminal aliens in our Texas jails who should have been detained, removed and deported ... were instead released back onto our streets after they completed their jail sentence," Perry wrote in a Nov. 18 letter to Chertoff.

How horrible!! Letting people go after they complete their sentences! What is this country turning in to!?

If Skeletor could not get immediate action going in NOLA after Katrina, why in fark do you think he will do anything differently about the illegal problem?

/stupid rethuglicans

Farkin'round: If Skeletor could not get immediate action going in NOLA after Katrina, why in fark do you think he will do anything differently about the illegal problem?

/stupid rethuglicans

Ah, man...I was all set to agree with you, then you had to go and use the stupid arsed "rethuglicans" made-up insult.

Man...I hate when that happens.

Come quietly or there will be... trouble.

Zagloba: Illegal immigration is a made-up problem.

Yeah, moving from one side of the border to another shouldn't be a crime. Our current laws need an enema. They ignore the reality of what's happening today. The other side of the argument is that citizens pay taxes for years/decades/generations to pay for the infrastructure that illegal immigrants use for free. If we are to retain our culture of a melting pot, of taking the disenfranchised under our wing and granting continuing opportunity, we need to address the reality of what's happening with immigration, and not just what sounds good during election cycles.

Chertoff is a nasty yankee dickweasel liar biatch. Texas should start a secessionist movement. Othewise payback's going to be a biatch when Perry's president and Dickoff shows his ugly mug.

Chertoff was all, but they are cheap laaabor and nice (like fellow weasel in arms McCain), before the rest of the USA overran his and the rest of Congresses telephones systems and email with anger. Then the little farker backed off and acted like he wanted to defend the borders all along. Goddamn yankees don't have a farking clue what is going on in the border states. They want Coooompaaaaassssion. We want our farking social services reserved for actual citizens.

Go Rick.

Okay, enough with the homoerotic foreplay.

Just have sex with each other already and stop yelling out your deepest desires, dudes.

I appreciate that the South's main reason for getting rid of employers hiring cheap immigrant labor is not to pass laws stopping the employers, but to basically keep the same system of underpaid labor intact but continue to go along the lines of racism.

Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes: when Perry's president

douchebag versus douchebag.

whoever wins, we lose.

Guntram Shatterhand: I appreciate that the South's main reason for getting rid of employers hiring cheap immigrant labor is not to pass laws stopping the employers, but to basically keep the same system of underpaid labor intact

WIN!

/unfortunately, dead-on

The issue, at least with Harris County Jails (Harris is the county for Houston) is that the staff there doesn't really care. They hate each and every inmate and want them out and gone as soon as possible. Given their working environment and the sheriff they were working under before this past election, in some ways, I cannot blame them.

/but in so many other ways, I can.

Fark both of them.

/Noone said this yet? Wow.

stiletto_the_wise: "I am outraged to learn that thousands of criminal aliens in our Texas jails who should have been detained, removed and deported ... were instead released back onto our streets after they completed their jail sentence," Perry wrote in a Nov. 18 letter to Chertoff.

How horrible!! Letting people go after they complete their sentences! What is this country turning in to!?

Yeah! They should just imprison them without charges, without trials, without access to attorneys! It's the New American Way!

Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes: Chertoff is a nasty yankee dickweasel liar biatch. Texas should start a secessionist movement. Othewise payback's going to be a biatch when Perry's president and Dickoff shows his ugly mug.

According to your profile, your surname is "Rils." Doesn't sound American to me. Definitely foreign. Maybe we should turn you over to DHS for investigation.

moonscatter: The issue, at least with Harris County Jails (Harris is the county for Houston) is that the staff there doesn't really care. They hate each and every inmate and want them out and gone as soon as possible. Given their working environment and the sheriff they were working under before this past election, in some ways, I cannot blame them.

/but in so many other ways, I can.

Harris County government has been screwed up for a long time. But it occurs to me that the sheriff's people refusing to supply required information to DHS could be interpreted as conspiracy to commit immigration fraud. Perhaps Chertoff could file charges against these people. And against the ex-sheriff. And maybe against Perry.

/left Texas the year Bush became governor
//stayed away during Perry's reign
///no reason to return yet
////at least in Louisiana, everyone agrees that the government is corrupt

mksmith: Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes: Chertoff is a nasty yankee dickweasel liar biatch. Texas should start a secessionist movement. Othewise payback's going to be a biatch when Perry's president and Dickoff shows his ugly mug.

According to your profile, your surname is "Rils." Doesn't sound American to me. Definitely foreign. Maybe we should turn you over to DHS for investigation.

He cud be one of dem ferners. Git him and string him up. According to your post, your one of those xenophobic bigoted racists that the Obamatrons want to see sent off to re-education camp.

Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes: Texas should start a secessionist movement.

Go ahead. There's only two things in Texas, and we can get those things from Kansas and Massachusetts.

NO U

Rick Perry is a god-damn retard.

Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes: Texas should start a secessionist movement.

We can only hope they succeed.

Glad to see some posts on here on illegal immigration as a class/labor issue.

what_now: Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes: Texas should start a secessionist movement.

Go ahead. There's only two things in Texas, and we can get those things from Kansas and Massachusetts.

Ha! Nice Full Metal Jacket reference. I would have gone for CA, though, for the second.

PizzaJedi81: what_now: Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes: Texas should start a secessionist movement.

Go ahead. There's only two things in Texas, and we can get those things from Kansas and Massachusetts.

Ha! Nice Full Metal Jacket reference. I would have gone for CA, though, for the second.

Wow. That was subtle but awesome. I was like, "They have oil in Kansas? And... I guess there's beaches in TX and MA..."

People arguing for the deportation of illegals have NO idea what that would do to our economy. The same people you elect are the same people that allowed this to happen, because they care about their rich buddies more than they care about you.

That being said, illegal immigration is HARDLY our greatest concern right now. You guys are just being used as pawns AGAIN to stir the shiat while the GOP is out of power. Wise up and join the rest of the country in fixing this mess.

bionicFAG: Yeah, moving from one side of the border to another shouldn't be a crime.

PizzaJedi81: what_now: Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes: Texas should start a secessionist movement.

Go ahead. There's only two things in Texas, and we can get those things from Kansas and Massachusetts.

Ha! Nice Full Metal Jacket reference. I would have gone for CA, though, for the second.

It's from Officer and a Gentleman, Sparky.

WillieStokes: PizzaJedi81: what_now: Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes: Texas should start a secessionist movement.

Go ahead. There's only two things in Texas, and we can get those things from Kansas and Massachusetts.

Ha! Nice Full Metal Jacket reference. I would have gone for CA, though, for the second.

It's from Officer and a Gentleman, Sparky.

Steers and Queers is, in fact, from Full Metal Jacket. R. Lee Ermey said it.

Zagloba: Illegal immigration is a made-up problem. (That said, if anyone is able to show a significant difference in crime rate between undocumented aliens and the remainder of the population, I'll be very interested.)

/Actual crimes with victims, that is, not their "immigration crime".

You live in New York. You have no farking idea.

Crude: Go Rick.

Seriously? They're having a pissing match over who can be the bigger idiot and cooperate the least? The headline sums it up pretty nicely. How the hell is Texas law enforcement going to get immigration records if ICE doesn't know about the criminals, i.e. if Texas law enforcement doesn't KEEP those records?

moothemagiccow: Zagloba: Illegal immigration is a made-up problem. (That said, if anyone is able to show a significant difference in crime rate between undocumented aliens and the remainder of the population, I'll be very interested.)

/Actual crimes with victims, that is, not their "immigration crime".

You live in New York. You have no farking idea.

New York City! Git a rope.

Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes; We want our farking social services reserved for actual citizens.

Agreed, wholeheartedly.

Back in the 80's, the Treasury guys in my town would be all over your ass if you hired an illegal. They would get in your face and threaten YOU with fines and jail, not the illegals. These days in my town the only one chasing illegals is the local sheriff, who has had several jumpouts. And he's doing it because of the hordes of Guats and Mexicans involved in illegal drugs and identity scams.
And the Feds have NEVER BEEN INVOLVED. Not because the Feds are drastically changed, most of them are the same freaking guys. This is policy, coming from the top. Chertoff is making noises like he's doing something but is in fact, giving orders to do just the opposite and not allowing the local Feds to get involved.

I wonder if there will be any change under Obama. One would think so, for the illegals being here hurts the black community most of all.

Zagloba: Actual crimes with victims, that is, not their "immigration crime".

Society is the victim.

182: Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes: Texas should start a secessionist movement.

We can only hope they succeed.

Perry could be Robert Lee and Bush does the part of Jeff Davis. Hell, you know there are at least a couple dozen fully armed nuke silos out west under those thousands of crops circles. If it ever happened the rest of the US would have to put up a wall to keep their people from leaving to come to Texas.

Come to think of it, Petraus is from Oklahoma. Ok we let Oklahoma in as a buffer so we can get Petraus to be our Robert Lee. =)

Sabyen91: WillieStokes: PizzaJedi81: what_now: Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes: Texas should start a secessionist movement.

Go ahead. There's only two things in Texas, and we can get those things from Kansas and Massachusetts.

Ha! Nice Full Metal Jacket reference. I would have gone for CA, though, for the second.

It's from Officer and a Gentleman, Sparky.

Steers and Queers is, in fact, from Full Metal Jacket. R. Lee Ermey said it.

I'm a tool.

/aging sucks.

I'm fairly fluent in Yankee so there's a chance I could help as a translator or something.

Sabyen91: Steers and Queers

Living in TX, I can say with authority this is unfortunately false. Counterexamples, you request? Republicans. Parking lots. Dairy Queens. 7-11s.

/still funny, though! :)

varmitydog: Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes; We want our farking social services reserved for actual citizens.

Agreed, wholeheartedly.

Back in the 80's, the Treasury guys in my town would be all over your ass if you hired an illegal. They would get in your face and threaten YOU with fines and jail, not the illegals. These days in my town the only one chasing illegals is the local sheriff, who has had several jumpouts. And he's doing it because of the hordes of Guats and Mexicans involved in illegal drugs and identity scams.
And the Feds have NEVER BEEN INVOLVED. Not because the Feds are drastically changed, most of them are the same freaking guys. This is policy, coming from the top. Chertoff is making noises like he's doing something but is in fact, giving orders to do just the opposite and not allowing the local Feds to get involved.

I wonder if there will be any change under Obama. One would think so, for the illegals being here hurts the black community most of all.

With the Gov of Arizona (Napolitano) replaces Chertoff there will be a big change. Napolitano is very much against any law enforcement actions against Illegal Aliens and does her best to not uphold state laws.

You guys better get used to having Illegal Aliens running around this country.

WillieStokes: Sabyen91: WillieStokes: PizzaJedi81: what_now: Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes: Texas should start a secessionist movement.

Go ahead. There's only two things in Texas, and we can get those things from Kansas and Massachusetts.

Ha! Nice Full Metal Jacket reference. I would have gone for CA, though, for the second.

It's from Officer and a Gentleman, Sparky.

Steers and Queers is, in fact, from Full Metal Jacket. R. Lee Ermey said it.

I'm a tool.

/aging sucks.

Yeah, don't feel bad...for a second, I thought you were right. Had to double check it myself. :-)

HempHead: With the Gov of Arizona (Napolitano) replaces Chertoff there will be a big change. Napolitano is very much against any law enforcement actions against Illegal Aliens and does her best to not uphold state laws.

Then it will be no change at all, unless she attempts to get involved in local police matters. And with the unqualified, squirrelly nature of Obama's cabinet picks so far, that's something I don't doubt might happen at all.

Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes: If the "Petraus" you are referring to is General David Petraeus, he was born and raised in Cornwall, New York. Right on the other side of the mountain from where he went to school, West Point.

I run a plant in Nuevo Laredo. I walk over the bridge every morning, to work in Mexico. I see Mexicans walking the other way on the bridge every morning, to work in the US. They can get permisos, which allow them to come over for work, shopping, etc, but doesn't allow them out of the border area. It is routine every day. I haven't heard anybody in Laredo TX biatch about illegal immigration, save for a few of your typical florid porcine Republican types (usually from somewhere other than South Texas) at the hotel bar.

Going the other way, into Mexico, requires only the ability to ambulate and a face.

Most of my english speaking employees learned the language when they lived in the US. My plant manager came over with a coyote when he was 14, and worked into his mid-thirties. He was a perfectly normal citizen of his community in San Antonio - until the Hate Filled Christian Right decided to make it a wedge issue. Suddenly he was a pariah and soon arrested and sent back. He tells me that his old boss still calls him, trying to get him back because he can't find a good replacement for him. Yay personally responsible morally and work ethically superior caucausoid Christian supermen!

Mexicans look on visiting Texas as a right, because the US stole it from them. There is simply no other way to put it - or spin it away - we flat out stole it from them. And not in any nice kind of a way either - it was your typical White Christian American annexation - which involved much scalping and genocide.

For all of you armchair Bill O'Reilly's, go read a book (Blood Meridian is a good one) and see how proud you still feel about this piece of desert you took by killing hundreds of thousands of men, women and children. It would do you good to know the history, because every Mexican does, and most of them hate you for it and want their shiat back.

One final thing about illegal immigration: after having moved a plant from the US into Mexico, give me Mexicans over Americans any day of the week (five preferably). Oddly enough, the biggest problem children in my US plant were always the Conservative types, those fed on a steady diet of Hannity and Limbaugh - who allegedly are all for personal responsibility and self advancement - balderdash! The whiniest biatches of them all, always with their hand out, always needing praise for any effort - always demanding more for doing a good job - at a job an eight year old could do. I hope you are enjoying your unemployment benefits, while your job is being done by somebody who WANTS to work.

Chertoff is a prime example of why execution should be a valid punishment for gross incompetence.

Given the stringent demands Mexico makes for you to immigrate there, I would like the people moving here to at least do so legally. I won't even ask that they be rich businessmen who speak the local language, like Mexico does. Just do so legally. Please?

I was really (and yes I know, stupidly) hoping that the new Obama administration would actually get rid of the DHS. Why is it necessary? It has done nothing productive and is just one giant fasicst cock that pisses all of the constitution regularly. Not to mention the amount of money it wastes. Supressing civil liberties is expensive.