the new republican seal

I'm not overweight, I'm under tall.

I'm not gassy, I'm just reserving myself for fewer farts.

Can we stop with the post mortems finally? The GOP unfortunately will be back one day before long. That's the nature of the cycle of politics.

Jamespoon: Can we stop with the post mortems finally? The GOP unfortunately will be back one day before long. That's the nature of the cycle of politics.

THIS!!!

I remember seeing similar stories about the death of the GOP 16 years ago when Clinton was elected. 2 years later the Republicans had control of congress for the first time in 35 years.

The pendulum will swing back the other way.

It's not that nobody likes us. They just think we're too cool to hang out with them.

/that's the ticket

FTFA: Unlike some who shall, in the interests of comity, remain nameless - conservatives do not cry foul when they lose elections. They do not whine that the election was stolen, or secured through dirty campaign tricks, or otherwise illegitimately won. Instead, they ask themselves where they went wrong.

I stopped reading here, in the first paragraph.

GOP is not getting much support in boston. I wouldn't worry about it though, it's not a big college town

Unlike some who shall, in the interests of comity, remain nameless - conservatives do not cry foul when they lose elections. They do not whine that the election was stolen, or secured through dirty campaign tricks, or otherwise illegitimately won. Instead, they ask themselves where they went wrong.

rrreeeeeeeaaaaaaaallllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyy?

Republicans just need to fix the choreography and keep the dwarves clear so they won't trod upon it.

Ian Faith agrees.

/too obscure?

So who wants to bet that they push hard for a black nominee in 2012, completely missing the point of why Obama was elected?

I'm not bad. I'm just drawn this way.

I Said: So who wants to bet that they push hard for a black nominee in 2012, completely missing the point of why Obama was elected?

Alan Keyes!

/instant win for Obama

What's wrong with being sexy?

slayer199: /too obscure?

This is TF, man. Not even enough perspective.


/You can't really dust for cricket bats

Tunk87: Jamespoon: Can we stop with the post mortems finally? The GOP unfortunately will be back one day before long. That's the nature of the cycle of politics.

THIS!!!

I remember seeing similar stories about the death of the GOP 16 years ago when Clinton was elected. 2 years later the Republicans had control of congress for the first time in 35 years.

The pendulum will swing back the other way.

Yep. Anybody remember the death of the Democratic Party four years ago, and the massive screaming meltdown the left was having at the time?

sigdiamond2000: Republicans just need to fix the choreography and keep the dwarves clear so they won't trod upon it.


Whats wrong with being sexy?

eleven.

Hal Jalykakik: What's wrong with being sexy?

foiled again!

STFU; That means less popular


/God we need a strong 3rd party

absoluteparanoia: I'm not gassy, I'm just reserving myself for fewer farts.

awesome. i'm stealing that.

There is the possibility of the Fiscal Conservatives jumping ship for the Libertarian Party.

Tunk87: The pendulum will swing back the other way.

I'm inclined to agree, but we have had political parties pass into history before.

So what does it take to really bury a political party for good? Or are there still some whigs kicking around out there?

"Those cheerleaders were just intimidated by my intelligence and my encyclopedic knowledge of Pokemon"

"It's not that Republicans are less popular, it's just that their appeal has become more selective."


To put it another way..

My mom says I'm cool

elvisaintdead: slayer199: /too obscure?

This is TF, man. Not even enough perspective.


/You can't really dust for cricket bats

I figured the older TFers would get it...it's those young 'uns ya gotta worry about.

they need to keep appealing to the extremist far right wing of the party. More Fred Phelps less Dwight Eisenhower. That's the ticket.
Keep on putting people like DeLay,Santorum and Frist in charge.

Hobodeluxe: they need to keep appealing to the extremist far right wing of the party. More Fred Phelps less Dwight Eisenhower. That's the ticket.

so you're saying they need to find a way to turn the ignorance and jingoism up to 11?

Fraggler: So what does it take to really bury a political party for good?

If a Sarah Palin-type candidate is the GOP nominee for President in 2012...that would be the end of the GOP party.

The fiscal conservatives would be completely void of reasons to defend their party and they would be, once and for all, driven from the party for good.

Personally, I see a power-struggle over the next 3 years with the fiscal conservatives winning the party back. But, who knows.

The problem is, we're not selective enough. We keep letting any asshat with a keyboard send out garbage into the ether, or a lock themselves up into a studio to spout over the airwaves...

I welcome the collapse of some of this detritus, to blow away to other markets, or force them to get real jobs.

Republicans need thinkers. We need folks with real educations, who actually do study the markets, foreign policy, and even social issues, and above all: the Constitution.

Bring back Civics education, spend a little time with the books and think before you type, and we might be able to get the party back on the tracks. But the knee jerk jingoism and half assed market "wisdom" that apparently no one actually believes in, save when times are good aren't doing it for us, and neither are listening to folks who can't even attend accredited schools for theology--yes, I'm looking at you, Mr. Bob Jones University grad!

Fark... former majority leader DeLay still stands by his statement that Obama may be a Marxist. The crazy ones aren't far on the fringes of the GOP like they should be. They've been running the show.

The party has used their media mouthpieces like Fox and talk radio to shift the entire political discourse to the right, making the fringe lunatics out to be a respectable point of view. It seems a few more people are figuring out that it's bullshiat.

The party should be concerned about their future. African-Americans are a growing segment of the population and the GOP gave up 90% of the black vote (95% this year) when Nixon used the Southern strategy. Hispanics are a growing segment of the population and Obama substantially increased the Democratic lead this year in that demographic. If I remember right he got almost 2/3rds of the Hispanic vote. Obama also substantially increased the Democratic share of the youth vote, hitting 70% of the vote among 18-29 yr olds.

In short, the demographics going forward look terrible for the Republican party. They are farked if they don't get their shiat together and start expanding their appeal.

STAGNANT POPULARITY FOR SOME!

SELECTIVE APPEAL FOR OTHERS!

I Said: So who wants to bet that they push hard for a black nominee in 2012, completely missing the point of why Obama was elected?

I don't know about black, but there are some who are already pimping out Bobby "Louisiana Exorcist" Jindal for that job.

Shiat Sandwich.

Cagey B: I Said: So who wants to bet that they push hard for a black nominee in 2012, completely missing the point of why Obama was elected?

I don't know about black, but there are some who are already pimping out Bobby "Louisiana Exorcist" Jindal for that job.

True, I should have gone for the broader "not caucasian male".

burndtdan: Hobodeluxe: they need to keep appealing to the extremist far right wing of the party. More Fred Phelps less Dwight Eisenhower. That's the ticket.

so you're saying they need to find a way to turn the ignorance and jingoism up to 11?

yes. they have increased their redness in the deep red south with Palin. just keep on doing it. soon they will be only the party of fundamentalist Jesus freaks with a theological platform and totally relegated to the fringes of the political landscape.
The moderates and fiscal conservatives that have been hanging on will have to split and form a new party. Hopefully with some moderate Dems and Libertarians out there. Then you might see a breakup of the duopoly. But with Obama seemingly intent on being a moderate and focused on unity it could be a while.

slayer199: I figured the older TFers would get it...it's those young 'uns ya gotta worry about.

I'll bet you've got a lawn of Hank Hill-like magnificence.
Me too.

I Said: So who wants to bet that they push hard for a black nominee in 2012, completely missing the point of why Obama was elected?

Yes, we have a black president, but the question is, how much more black could he be?

And the answer is, none. None more black.

bulldg4life: Unlike some who shall, in the interests of comity, remain nameless - conservatives do not cry foul when they lose elections. They do not whine that the election was stolen, or secured through dirty campaign tricks, or otherwise illegitimately won. Instead, they ask themselves where they went wrong.

rrreeeeeeeaaaaaaaallllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyy?

someone probably wrote that with a straight face, proving that Republicans really are capable of doing the impossible.

Jamespoon: Can we stop with the post mortems finally? The GOP unfortunately will be back one day before long. That's the nature of the cycle of politics.

Are you kidding me? After 8 years of Tom DeLay, torture, treason, war, lies about war, lies about lies about war, politically motivated firings, and oh yea apparently completely breaking capitalism itself, I can't get enough of this shiat.

bulldg4life: Unlike some who shall, in the interests of comity, remain nameless - conservatives do not cry foul when they lose elections. They do not whine that the election was stolen, or secured through dirty campaign tricks, or otherwise illegitimately won. Instead, they ask themselves where they went wrong.

rrreeeeeeeaaaaaaaallllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyy?

they went wrong by not preventing acorn from stealing the election, obviously.

Mordant:
someone probably wrote that with a straight face, proving that Republicans really are capable of doing the impossible.



"There is no whining here."

It isn't that people stopped asking the poor girl out, she just ran out of bags to wear.

despair is a sin

hubiestubert: The problem is, we're not selective enough. We keep letting any asshat with a keyboard send out garbage into the ether, or a lock themselves up into a studio to spout over the airwaves...

I welcome the collapse of some of this detritus, to blow away to other markets, or force them to get real jobs.

Republicans need thinkers. We need folks with real educations, who actually do study the markets, foreign policy, and even social issues, and above all: the Constitution.

Bring back Civics education, spend a little time with the books and think before you type, and we might be able to get the party back on the tracks. But the knee jerk jingoism and half assed market "wisdom" that apparently no one actually believes in, save when times are good aren't doing it for us, and neither are listening to folks who can't even attend accredited schools for theology--yes, I'm looking at you, Mr. Bob Jones University grad!

If the GOP could actually learn from their recent (and hideous) mistakes, I would consider voting for them. Again.

Just like I did 20 years ago.

But my gut tells me they are going to run 100 miles in the opposite direction from 'smart' before they realize the error of their ways. They seem to be slow to accept the First Rule of Holes, for some reason.

Doc Daneeka: I Said: So who wants to bet that they push hard for a black nominee in 2012, completely missing the point of why Obama was elected?

Yes, we have a black president, but the question is, how much more black could he be?

And the answer is, none. None more black.

They are pushing Michael Steele. I hope they run him, he has no charisma and will send the racists into a headspin because they'll have to pick between to nubians.

The Lions aren't a crappy team, they just keep coming in second...

Yeah the GOP is still popular. Would a magazine for right wing nuts have any reason to lie about that ?

GOP approval rating still falling

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/20
/poll-gop-image-goes-from-bad-to-worse/#more-30933

clip -

Just 34 percent of Americans in a Gallup Poll released Thursday say they have a favorable view of the party, down 40 percent from a month ago, before the election.

[...]

Meanwhile, Democrats continue to bask in the glow of President-elect Barack Obama's historic victory on November 4. The Gallup poll suggests that 55 percent of Americans hold a favorable opinion of the Democratic Party, with 39 percent saying they have an unfavorable view. Those numbers are mostly unchanged from a mid-October surve

FTFA: Unlike some who shall, in the interests of comity, remain nameless - conservatives do not cry foul when they lose elections. They do not whine that the election was stolen, or secured through dirty campaign tricks, or otherwise illegitimately won. Instead, they ask themselves where they went wrong.

lol wut?

[insert lol wut talking pear thinger here]