I just had the urge to buy from people who ONLY use the secular language. If there is a war on Christmas, it's because of stupid bullshiat like this.

Focus on the American Family Research Parents Television Council. They're all the same, and I've never met anybody who consults them when doing anything. I've always wondered where the hundreds of millions of members these groups boast of actually live.

Grabbed the full list - now you don't have to give Focus on your own damn family hits:

"Christmas-friendly" retailers - prominent acknowledgment of "Christmas"
Cabela's
Crate&Barrel
Dillard's
Eddie Bauer
JCPenney
Kohl's
L.L.Bean
Lands' End
Linens 'n Things
Lowe's
Macy's
Neiman Marcus
Nordstrom
Pier 1 Imports
Sears
The Home Depot
Target
Wal-Mart

"Christmas-negligent" retailers - marginalized use of "Christmas"
Barnes & Noble
Bed, Bath & Beyond
Best Buy
Borders
Circuit City
Dick's Sporting Goods
GAP
KB Toys
Kmart
Toys "R" Us

"Christmas-offensive" retailers - apparent abandonment of "Christmas"
American Eagle
Banana Republic
Bloomingdale's
Lane Bryant
Old Navy

Meh.

Way to continue to be divisive and demanding of special attention FOTF. You make America bitter and angry. Keep it up.


Stinky McButt: I've always wondered where the hundreds of millions of members these groups boast of actually live.

Trailer parks and cheap development housing. (seriously).

I think it's funny how they're not concerned about which retailers treat their employees well, they're not concerned about which retailers purchase products made by Chinese slave labour, they're not concerned about which retailers have good health care plans, they're not concerned about which retailers give to charities etc etc. It's like ensuring care for the sick, looking after the planet's lowest most-downtrodden people and caring for your neighbour aren't really any important part of their church's mission. What's their mission? Language police, apparently.

Matthew 6:5

I'm not worried about these types any more. The Moral Majority is well past the zenith of its influence.

Bill_Wick's_Friend: I think it's funny how they're not concerned about which retailers treat their employees well, they're not concerned about which retailers purchase products made by Chinese slave labour, they're not concerned about which retailers have good health care plans, they're not concerned about which retailers give to charities etc etc. It's like ensuring care for the sick, looking after the planet's lowest most-downtrodden people and caring for your neighbour aren't really any important part of their church's mission. What's their mission? Language police, apparently.

Matthew 6:5

This would make a good commercial.

It must be nice to be able to evaluate a chain's moral and ethical compass based on whether a certain word is in their advertising.

Eliminates the need to check up on things like labor conditions, product origins, employee safety, benefits policies, and any of that tedious stuff.

doing the opposite of what they suggest always works out well.

It's so odd, though. When the Reformed Church went after the public treatment of Christmas, they said "Get rid of all these extraneous trappings like lights, decorations, and gifts. You're distracting from the holiness of the day." Now you get the neo-fundamentalists saying "How dare you imply that these lights, decorations, and gifts have any purpose except to honor the birth of our Lord?!" They've taken in and made essential to Christmas what the Pilgrims, for example, would have seen as superfluous if not dangerous to real worship.

Goddamn religion sure does make you stupid.
(or do the stupid gravitate to religion?)

bobbette: Grabbed the full list - now you don't have to give Focus on your own damn family hits:

Thanks; I was curious, but I don't want to give them anything that could be mistaken as positive attention. People who use religion as an excuse to whip themselves up in a frenzy of self-righteous outrage over trifles while ignoring real problems are the worst kinds of attention whores.

Oh for the love of crap. Shut up. Then don't freaking shop there.

That said, I always felt that calling a Christmas Tree a Holiday Tree was pretty stupid. Not 'I'm SO offended' or 'I'm going to protest!' but just really stupid.

"It is not a boycott," said Sonja Swiatkiewicz, Focus' director of issues response. "Consumers can do what they wish with the information."

Director of issues response? Is that anything like Chief of whiny twats?

These idiots would probably bomb my house for pointing out that Christmas has pagan origins and was celebrated long before Jesus Christ was ever heard of or incorporated onto pagan rituals and customs. I am sure many would critisize that but history is the proof.

/ah well. Let the bombing begin!
//lol
///to each his own, as long as it does not harm another

Bill_Wick's_Friend: I think it's funny how they're not concerned about which retailers treat their employees well, they're not concerned about which retailers purchase products made by Chinese slave labour, they're not concerned about which retailers have good health care plans, they're not concerned about which retailers give to charities etc etc. It's like ensuring care for the sick, looking after the planet's lowest most-downtrodden people and caring for your neighbour aren't really any important part of their church's mission. What's their mission? Language police, apparently.

Matthew 6:5

That sounds like socialist talk there. Republican Jesus does not approve.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster finds this amusing.

"Big Gay Al's Anal Lube Depot" uses "Merry Christmas" in all their advertising. I guess they must be OK.

Stinky McButt: Focus on the American Family Research Parents Television Council. They're all the same, and I've never met anybody who consults them when doing anything. I've always wondered where the hundreds of millions of members these groups boast of actually live.

The south.

Well I don't care for their marginalized use of the word "family".

Go die in a very large hot fire.

/Or just go away.
//You pick.

whatshisname: "Big Gay Al's Anal Lube Depot" uses "Merry Christmas" in all their advertising. I guess they must be OK.

I LOVE that place!!!

whatshisname: "Big Gay Al's Anal Lube Depot" uses "Merry Christmas" in all their advertising. I guess they must be OK.

As does Transgendered Johnny's Abortitorium.

"...Family Action's Shopping Guide..."

So close... so... farking.... CLOSE!



/hotlinked
//probably breaking the law
///in Ireland

I want them to Focus on Deez Nuts.

Churchill2004: I'm not worried about these types any more. The Moral Majority is well past the zenith of its influence.

Don't be sure. Being downtrodden and "put-upon" is actually a powerup for all social movements above a certain size.

Now I want to register FalseProphets.org and encourage people to report "christian" groups that have abandoned the teachings of Christ in order to spread hatred and ignorance. Buy some TV ads, too. Shame some people into shutting up and listening to what their own messiah had to say.

/not even christian
//but the "good" christians ain't doing SHIAT about the problem
///SOMEONE'S gotta do something

Bill_Wick's_Friend: I think it's funny how they're not concerned about which retailers treat their employees well, they're not concerned about which retailers purchase products made by Chinese slave labour, they're not concerned about which retailers have good health care plans, they're not concerned about which retailers give to charities etc etc. It's like ensuring care for the sick, looking after the planet's lowest most-downtrodden people and caring for your neighbour aren't really any important part of their church's mission. What's their mission? Language police, apparently.

Matthew 6:5

Pretty much this.

Chariset: It must be nice to be able to evaluate a chain's moral and ethical compass based on whether a certain word is in their advertising.

Eliminates the need to check up on things like labor conditions, product origins, employee safety, benefits policies, and any of that tedious stuff.

Exactly. If a company is fronting as Christian by keeping the use of the word Christmas then they must be a good company. They must. Bullshiat.

Focus on the Family promoting shopping during the four weeks of Advent will soon announce a Steak on Friday special for Lent since apparently Catholics-Anglicans-Lutherans aren't really Christians and have no business in Republican religion anyway.

Never forget the meaning of the season!

Cog: Goddamn religion sure does make you stupid.
(or do the stupid gravitate to religion?)


I just don't know that many IQ-intelligent people who I would consider to be 'religious nuts.' I know a very large number of people that I would affectionately refer to as 'inbred' that would just as soon thump you with a bible for even saying that as they would thump their personal preaching pulpit while spreading gospel to the masses.

Are there religious smart people? Yep.
Are there agnostic or atheistic dumbasses? Yep.

I think, however, that the numbers are still significantly skewed to one side on the subject.

Who cares?

good. political correctness is for homosexuals and probably people from the uk too.

Monkey MKIII: "...Family Action's Shopping Guide..."

So close... so... farking.... CLOSE!


The local First Assemblies of God, bus with the first letter of each major word much larger than the rest of the print is fondly known around town as the FAG bus.

Somehow I missed the part where celebrating the birth of Christ officially involves shopping at stores who exploit religious traditions for personal financial gain.

bobbette: "Christmas-friendly" retailers - prominent acknowledgment of "Christmas"

There's "Christmas Friendly", then there's "Having Christmas shoved down your throat", like at some stores.

It's not even Thanksgiving and some stores already have Christmas music playing on the PA and have all their Christmas crap out for sale.

Retailers, I know Christmas is coming up. I don't need you to remind me.

bobbette: Lane Bryant

What? All of their models look like Santa Claus!

Bill_Wick's_Friend: I think it's funny how they're not concerned about which retailers treat their employees well, they're not concerned about which retailers purchase products made by Chinese slave labour, they're not concerned about which retailers have good health care plans, they're not concerned about which retailers give to charities etc etc. It's like ensuring care for the sick, looking after the planet's lowest most-downtrodden people and caring for your neighbour aren't really any important part of their church's mission. What's their mission? Language police, apparently.

Matthew 6:5

just wanted to quote this again for it awesomeness.

/thanks friend

You mean "Focus on the Bigotry", subby?

Its A War On Hanukkah !^TM

/Focus On The Family, unless they're J00z

whatshisname:

"Big Gay Al's Anal Lube Depot" uses "Merry Christmas" in all their advertising. I guess they must be OK.

You know, if I thought I could get away with hosting the site on one of my clients I'd set up biggayalsanallubeemporium.com and make sure it had plenty of FotF links on it, maybe submit it to a few zillion search engines...

El Robbo: Churchill2004: I'm not worried about these types any more. The Moral Majority is well past the zenith of its influence.

Don't be sure. Being downtrodden and "put-upon" is actually a powerup for all social movements above a certain size.

Being terminally offended gets exhausting after a while. People either devolve into full blown crazy or they fade away from these movements eventually. Since it is completely made up false victimhood that keeps these groups going rather than actually being downtrodden or some sort of marginalized minority it can't be perpetuated forever.

I don't remember a single blue spruce in the middle east. I wish instead of being hippo-critical they would stick to THEIR own customs and stop stealing our pagan/athiest symbols.

Hmmm - looks like I need to do some shopping at Old Navy.

So calling Christmas a "holiday" is offensive, now?

Yeesh. You guys should hang out with the Muslims rioting over cartoons. I bet you have a lot in common.

It is NOVEMBER farkING 15th!

Does Christmas really need to be in full swing for 40 days?

War on Christmas? I think we should declare a war on Christmas.
After all, it just invaded November. Quick, somebody get Neville Chamberlain to have a sit down with Santa.

Samsaran: So, this is the next stage in the war? First eliminate religious references from STATE displays, then from PUBLIC displays and finally PRIVATE displays?

In America, they came first for the crosses, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Christian;

And then they came for the Santa Clauses, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Capitalist;

And then they came for the presents, And I didn't speak up because I was a Jew;

And then . . . they came for my cookies . . . And by that time there was no milk left to drink up.