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(Think Progress) Obvious Study shows that Conservatives outnumber Liberals on political talk shows 58 to 42 percent. But...but... LIBERAL MEDIA COMMUNIST NEWS NETWORK WAARRGARBAL   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 97
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staplermofo [TotalFark] 2008-11-16 01:03:32 PM  
Study shows God damn baby hating liberal lie machine baselessly asserts that Conservatives outnumber Liberals on political talk shows 58 to 42 percent.

That's better.

 
Slaxl [TotalFark] 2008-11-16 01:07:26 PM  
Study shows God damn baby hating liberal lie machine baselessly asserts that noble and just Conservatives outnumber deceitful and duplicitous Liberals on political talk shows 58 to 42 percent.

That's even betterrerer

 
MisterTweak 2008-11-16 01:24:11 PM  
Slaxl: Study shows God damn baby hating liberal lie machine baselessly asserts that noble and just Conservatives outnumber deceitful and duplicitous Liberals on political talk shows 58 to 42 percent.

That's even betterrerer


Gentlemen, I'm disappointed. Not *one* mention of anti-christian bias, the "homosexual agenda", and islamofascism? I really think you can do better.

 
patrick767 [TotalFark] 2008-11-16 01:42:58 PM  
Yeah, plus liberal guests are often fairly moderate professional journalists whereas conservative guests are more likely to be party loyalists or fire breathing talk radio extremists.

 
Kublai Khan [TotalFark] 2008-11-16 02:22:08 PM  
Percentages? Sounds like Godless science to me!

 
Calmamity [TotalFark] 2008-11-16 02:34:25 PM  
MisterTweak: Not *one* mention of anti-christian bias,

Christmas is coming.

 
Churchill2004 [TotalFark] 2008-11-16 02:48:58 PM  
That's only talking about the people doing the Sunday talk shows, and I think in that regard it's skewed simply because the Republicanss have been in power. Sunday talk shows are the main media outlet for Cabinet officials and the like, and of course those have all been Republicans in the past eight years.

Really, even if you accept that the existence of bias is the actual problem as opposed to the insistence on faux objectivity, looking just at the Sunday talk shows would be a silly way to measure it. They're always going to tilt towards the party in power, because all the important high-ranking officials are of that party. Duh.

 
abb3w [TotalFark] 2008-11-16 03:16:48 PM  
Kublai Khan: Percentages? Sounds like Godless science to me!

people.virginia.edu[i14.ebayimg.com!]

 
borg [TotalFark] 2008-11-16 04:23:38 PM  
Conservatives talk shows make money, Liberal talk shows don't.

 
burndtdan 2008-11-16 04:28:53 PM  
MisterTweak: Gentlemen, I'm disappointed. Not *one* mention of anti-christian bias, the "homosexual agenda", and islamofascism? I really think you can do better.

you failed to mention the war on christmas.

 
burndtdan 2008-11-16 04:29:42 PM  
borg: Conservatives talk shows make money, Liberal talk shows don't.

because liberals aren't still listening to AM radio.

 
Lionel Mandrake [TotalFark] 2008-11-16 04:36:15 PM  
borg: Conservatives talk shows make money, Liberal talk shows don't.

I guess a lot of conservatives are bald and limp-dicked.

 
sloppy shoes 2008-11-16 04:45:51 PM  
borg: Conservatives talk shows make money, Liberal talk shows don't.

Olbermann and Maddow would disagree.


Honestly, I really think the fact that most "Liberal" talk shows don't make money is because 90% of topics discussed on talk shows are just day to day gossip. The regular format of TV forces you to promote crap and discuss it.

Books and the internet are much better served for intelligent discussion- either liberal or conservative.

/Yes there are intelligent conservatives. They are just closeted.
//We can only hope the intelligent conservatives come out of their closet. ;-)

 
Saborlas [TotalFark] 2008-11-16 04:46:16 PM  
abb3w: Kublai Khan: Percentages? Sounds like Godless science to me!

[!]


Othar! Gotta love that guy, even when he annoys the CRAP out of you.

 
Spanky_McFarksalot 2008-11-16 04:46:20 PM  
UCLA professor conducts study showing a liberal media bias=OMG!! Bias source bias source. He's like a shill for the right!!!

Media Matters does a study showing conservative bias sunday mornings=I shall accept this without question or thought.

 
Phil Moskowitz 2008-11-16 04:46:52 PM  
Some people need people in authority to tell them how to think and to justify their hateful, bigoted, tribe mentality bullshiat.

 
captain_heroic44 2008-11-16 04:51:59 PM  
Churchill2004: That's only talking about the people doing the Sunday talk shows, and I think in that regard it's skewed simply because the Republicanss have been in power.


No.

From the article:

In short, the Sunday talk shows on ABC, CBS, and NBC are dominated by conservative voices, from newsmakers to commentators. The data from the Clinton years indicate that the disparity cannot be explained simply by the fact that Republicans currently control the government.

 
PizzaJedi81 2008-11-16 04:53:59 PM  
burndtdan: MisterTweak: Gentlemen, I'm disappointed. Not *one* mention of anti-christian bias, the "homosexual agenda", and islamofascism? I really think you can do better.

you failed to mention the war on christmas.


That doesn't start until after Thanksgiving.

 
red headed stranger 2008-11-16 04:54:16 PM  
borg: Conservatives talk shows make money, Liberal talk shows don't.

I know many more liberals who will listen to a conservative show than vice=versa.

Generally speaking, in my experience, Liberals will gladly sit and get pissed of at something they are listening to, while conservatives will quickly shut off a show they disagree with. This results in conservative shows having a wider listenership.

/Of course I could be completely wrong.

 
Brubold 2008-11-16 04:55:29 PM  
Since the numbers discussed at the link are about guests and not hosts, I don't see how this is relevant to...well...anything. It doesn't tell you how those guests were treated by their mostly liberal hosts. What kind of questions were they asked? Were they attacked for their policies or thrown softball, "Is it hard being you?" type questions?

 
nacker 2008-11-16 04:56:07 PM  
Can we stop calling them conservatives? I mean, I don't see what is so conservative about wanting to spend more than you got, invading countries you have no business being in, and inviting yourself into other peoples lives to tell them what to do.

 
ollin 2008-11-16 04:56:35 PM  
i294.photobucket.com

 
Yesdog [TotalFark] 2008-11-16 04:57:03 PM  
Phil Moskowitz: Some people need people in authority to tell them how to think and to justify their hateful, bigoted, tribe mentality bullshiat.

Absolutely correct. Even the dumbest dumb-sh*t Republican troglodyte knows in his tiny, tiny heart that greed, racism/xenophobia, ignorance and absolute pants-wetting fear are not things to which civilized people should ascribe, so that's why they NEED people like Rush and Ann Coulter and Fox News to rationalize their base desires.

That's why they never point out how insipid and flimsy conservative mouthpieces' arguments are -- they can't imagine questioning the source of their "fix".

 
sloppy shoes 2008-11-16 04:57:57 PM  
red headed stranger: borg: Conservatives talk shows make money, Liberal talk shows don't.

I know many more liberals who will listen to a conservative show than vice=versa.

Generally speaking, in my experience, Liberals will gladly sit and get pissed of at something they are listening to, while conservatives will quickly shut off a show they disagree with. This results in conservative shows having a wider listenership.

/Of course I could be completely wrong.


Well, I don't know how common that is, but I watch Fox News for laughs. (Though as a bi-man, Bill O's recent assault on gay marriage has made me a little angry, but overall they are comically retarded).

 
PizzaJedi81 2008-11-16 04:58:01 PM  
red headed stranger: borg: Conservatives talk shows make money, Liberal talk shows don't.

I know many more liberals who will listen to a conservative show than vice=versa.

Generally speaking, in my experience, Liberals will gladly sit and get pissed of at something they are listening to, while conservatives will quickly shut off a show they disagree with. This results in conservative shows having a wider listenership.

/Of course I could be completely wrong.


That's pretty much how I am. I'm a good librul, but I love listening to Rush, O'Reilly, Boortz because they make me A: Nice and angry, and B: Focus whatever argument I may make against them in a clearer, more concise way.

Although, I do have to change if certain words/phrases/topics come up.

But it has been nice listening to Rush implode since last week.

 
syaroch 2008-11-16 05:00:34 PM  

Churchill2004,

Even if that were the case, what's skewed about the data? If there are more conservatives on television then the claim of a large liberal bias is brought into question. It doesn't matter why they're on.

Unless it's only incompetent conservatives (HIGHLY LIKELY), then it would suggest that those claims are specious.

Also, to quote Matthew Yglesias:

When conservatives dominated the government, it was necessary for conservatives to dominate the Sunday show guest lists in order that the views of big-time newsmakers be reflected. Conversely, with progressives coming into power, we need conservatives to dominate the Sunday show guest lists in order to counterbalance the views of those holding high political office.

 
Britney Spear's Speculum 2008-11-16 05:04:28 PM  
I like KGO 810 AM radio here in the Bay Area. They are pretty moderate with hosts who are both left and right leaning.

 
I Like Bread 2008-11-16 05:07:04 PM  
Look, if you're not going to learn how to spell WHARRGARBL, then let it go.

 
priestrape 2008-11-16 05:11:07 PM  
this won't stop the crying. What we need is a gigantic, pork-flavored pacifier

 
bartink 2008-11-16 05:16:57 PM  
syaroch: If there are more conservatives on television then the claim of a large liberal bias is brought into question. It doesn't matter why they're on.

Not true. O'Reilly has more lefties than cons on his show. I'm pretty sure the effect of his show is hard right bias.

I agree that its stupid to call the media somehow liberal leaning, but that point isn't that good.

 
Bill Frist 2008-11-16 05:20:06 PM  
bartink: syaroch: If there are more conservatives on television then the claim of a large liberal bias is brought into question. It doesn't matter why they're on.

Not true. O'Reilly has more lefties than cons on his show. I'm pretty sure the effect of his show is hard right bias.

I agree that its stupid to call the media somehow liberal leaning, but that point isn't that good.


I don't think you can really compare O'Reilly type shows to the sunday morning political shoes like Meet the Press. O'Reilly shows are just him spouting his agenda and attacking anyone who disagrees. A show like Meet the Press is jsut a "moderator" type who then allows a panel of guests to spin their various agendas.

 
Relatively Obscure [TotalFark] 2008-11-16 05:21:57 PM  
I Like Bread: Look, if you're not going to learn how to spell WHARRGARBL, then let it go.

Are you really going to go spelling/grammar Nazi on a non-word?

 
bartink 2008-11-16 05:22:35 PM  
Bill Frist: I don't think you can really compare O'Reilly type shows to the sunday morning political shoes like Meet the Press. O'Reilly shows are just him spouting his agenda and attacking anyone who disagrees. A show like Meet the Press is jsut a "moderator" type who then allows a panel of guests to spin their various agendas.

Fair point.

 
Alphax 2008-11-16 05:25:07 PM  
Lionel Mandrake: borg: Conservatives talk shows make money, Liberal talk shows don't.

I guess a lot of conservatives are bald and limp-dicked.


OH SNAP!

 
grxymkjbn 2008-11-16 05:47:46 PM  
nacker: Can we stop calling them conservatives? I mean, I don't see what is so conservative about wanting to spend more than you got, invading countries you have no business being in, and inviting yourself into other peoples lives to tell them what to do.

Well, we COULD call them what they are: Fascists. But if you do that, everyone will say that you're crazy.

 
deltabourne 2008-11-16 05:55:59 PM  
And for those of us who don't follow a pointless herd mentality, sitting around all day blaming the other side for all the country's ills? Nothing.

 
Hideously Gigantic Smurf 2008-11-16 06:02:06 PM  
deltabourne: And for those of us who don't follow a pointless herd mentality, sitting around all day blaming the other side for all the country's ills? Nothing.

Aww whassamatta? Your guy lose?

 
PC LOAD LETTER [TotalFark] 2008-11-16 06:16:33 PM  
bartink: Not true. O'Reilly has more lefties than cons on his show. I'm pretty sure the effect of his show is hard right bias.

Huh? For what? So he can cut them off and bully them by yelling out his right-wing talking points? The guy lobs strawman after strawman after strawman and because they are "liberals" (whatever that means), he's supposedly fair? It's more like a witch trial.

 
RemyDuron 2008-11-16 06:17:48 PM  
Reminds me of Al Franken's comment on Hannity's show, that it was usually ultra-conservative Hannity, two conservative guests, and self described moderate Colmes.

 
stlbluez 2008-11-16 06:18:09 PM  
It doesn't seem like much news to me that there's more conservative talk-show hosts.
I think the typical assertion (which I happen to agree with... ) is NOT talk-shows, but normal seemingly 'objective', informational format news. CNN, nightly news, etc...

 
RIDETHEWALRUS 2008-11-16 06:18:58 PM  
So the group that defines themselves as

"a web-based, not-for-profit, progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media."

Finds there to be a conservative bias. Hmmmmm......

 
Aldo the Wonder Dog 2008-11-16 06:20:59 PM  
Hideously Gigantic Smurf: deltabourne: And for those of us who don't follow a pointless herd mentality, sitting around all day blaming the other side for all the country's ills? Nothing.

Aww whassamatta? Your guy lose?


I think it's probably more like he didn't have "a guy" in the race to begin with. Mature answer on your part though.

Lots of folks out there like that who support social causes, equal rights and environmentalism while at the same time supporting gun rights, personal responsibility and a big fark you to unions and political machines.

There's no candidate for that.

/belonged to two unions
//voted across three parties

 
wookiemonster 2008-11-16 06:28:13 PM  
"Republicans and conservatives have been offered more opportunities to appear on the Sunday shows"

Oh, you mean the talk shows on Sunday that nobody watches anyway?

 
Biological Ali 2008-11-16 06:28:41 PM  
Calmamity: MisterTweak: Not *one* mention of anti-christian bias,

Christmas is coming.


...open wide?

 
mfaby 2008-11-16 06:29:26 PM  
1) BS headline
2) Bs article


Considering the 'source' is Media Matters, one of the most liberal organizations out there, OF COURSE they think more 'conservatives' are on TV because COMPARED TO Media Matters MOST PEOPLE ARE CONSERVATIVE; when youre at the far Left of the spectrum, most everyone else is Right wing.

 
PirateFreedom 2008-11-16 06:30:29 PM  
These scores are meaningless, people find what they want, they don't watch randomly selected samples.

If you're not finding multiple viewpoints then it's quite likely you're not finding because you're not looking.

 
jjorsett 2008-11-16 06:32:39 PM  
"Conservative" ≠ "Republican"
This being a Republican administration, it's not exactly surprising that there'd be a lot of Republicans showing up on Sunday shows. And having them on doesn't mean that the media likes or approves of them. Sarah Palin's appearances served to make her a human piñata.

 
jake3988 2008-11-16 06:58:30 PM  
Thinkprogress reports 58 to 42? For a liberal site, that's bizarre.

Conservatives outnumber liberals 80 to 20 :)

/Seriously. 80 to 20.

 
Jackpot777 [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-11-16 06:58:57 PM  
borg: Conservatives talk shows make money, Liberal talk shows don't.

So I wonder what's being sold in such copious amounts that ISN'T on the Liberal Media. After all: General Steel advertises on both EIB and AAR...



Ah yes. The invisible hand isn't quite able to make the Conservative erection or libido visible without a potion or a pill, I see.

 
jake3988 2008-11-16 06:59:29 PM  
jake3988 2008-11-16 06:58:29 PM Thinkprogress reports 58 to 42? For a liberal site, that's bizarre. Conservatives outnumber liberals 80 to 20 :) /Seriously. 80 to 20.
==================

Ah, it's only APPEARANCES on talk shows. Not actual talk shows around the country.

/Subby is a lying asshole.
//And yeah, not liberal media either.

 
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