hey the election is over, it's vets back to the curb time.

Where in the article does it say that, you f*cking moron asshole? Even the author said it was not Biden's fault.

Quit your goddamn childish whining. Grow up.

Cordwainer Deathbird: Where in the article does it say that, you f*cking moron asshole? Even the author said it was not Biden's fault.

Quit your goddamn childish whining. Grow up.

Crap. Rereading the article, I see I'm the moron asshole. Never mind. My bad, submitter. I apologize. Take a cockpunch to me out of petty cash.

It's not like he's ever served. Likely doesn't appreciate the sacrifice.

Also FTFA: "I know this isn't Biden's fault, but please tell the security detail to use a little common sense. "

Sounds like security was doing its job properly: keeping hundreds of hardened killers away from the VP-elect. Better safe than sorry. Hopefully everyone who was allowed in had to take off their shoes, and no liquids were allowed, either.

Tr0mBoNe: It's not like he's ever served. Likely doesn't appreciate the sacrifice.

I am going to interpret that as anyone who doesn't serve doesn't appreciate the sacrifice.

Cordwainer Deathbird: Cordwainer Deathbird: Where in the article does it say that, you f*cking moron asshole? Even the author said it was not Biden's fault.

Quit your goddamn childish whining. Grow up.

Crap. Rereading the article, I see I'm the moron asshole. Never mind. My bad, submitter. I apologize. Take a cockpunch to me out of petty cash.

Do you realize how mean and vicious you have gotten since feasy moved?

wazzup with that? you used to be fun and funny. now you just sound bitter.

I think I'll have to pass on the accuracy of a letter to the editor. Maybe the tent was small enough that the secret service decided it was better to keep some people out?

That does it! I'm voting for McCain.

'We'll throw a party for your benefit, but you're not invited' is an old elitist scam. Don't look for the homeless or battered women or the 'special' in the Society Pages' pictures from any 'Charity Gala/Ball' 'cause they aint there.

TheOther: 'We'll throw a party for your benefit, but you're not invited' is an old elitist scam. Don't look for the homeless or battered women or the 'special' in the Society Pages' pictures from any 'Charity Gala/Ball' 'cause they aint there.

Wow I'm glad I remembered to pay my country club dues!

We're greenlighting Letters to the Editor now on FARK? Really?

Man, I better get writing. I know I could cook up a few stories I'm sure the neoconmodmins would just eat up. Hell, I've got a few emails I was forwarded about Obama, can we greenlight those, too?

ragekage: We're greenlighting Letters to the Editor now on FARK? Really?

i see you're new around here

ragekage: Hell, I've got a few emails I was forwarded about Obama, can we greenlight those, too?

I hear that Biden guy is a seekrit Mooslin who wuz born in Eyeran.

real shaman: Do you realize how mean and vicious you have gotten since feasy moved?

wazzup with that? you used to be fun and funny. now you just sound bitter.

[threadjack]

You know what, you're probably right. I had something of a crisis of faith this past summer, and I'm still recovering from it. Actually started before feas moved, by the way.

I'll work on it.

[/threadjack]

this is....about a 7 on the Biden Gaff Scale (BGS™)

QQ

L2Campaign

Not Biden's fault, but he is still a duschenozzle.

snuffy: hey the election is over, it's vets back to the curb time.

Yep, same old same old.

Tr0mBoNe: It's not like he's ever served. Likely doesn't appreciate the sacrifice.

He was a draft dodger, specifically.

Having said that, apart from Lincoln's speech and of course the GI bill, there have been precious few times that any US president has given the veterans of this nation much actual real value for what they needed. And sometimes we did the opposite, like the Bonus March.

It probably was his fault, he obviously knows everywhere he goes he has the security detail. "Gee, I wonder what will happen if I attend a ceremony in this small tent with the long line outside..."

/Actually, he probably didn't wonder, which was the problem

//Cordwainer Deathbird: epic retraction of flaming. cracked me up.

FTFA "I know this isn't Biden's fault..."

But please, continue your fabricated outrage.

real shaman: Cordwainer Deathbird: Cordwainer Deathbird: Where in the article does it say that, you f*cking moron asshole? Even the author said it was not Biden's fault.

Quit your goddamn childish whining. Grow up.

Crap. Rereading the article, I see I'm the moron asshole. Never mind. My bad, submitter. I apologize. Take a cockpunch to me out of petty cash.

Do you realize how mean and vicious you have gotten since feasy moved?

wazzup with that? you used to be fun and funny. now you just sound bitter.

Holy shiat, misfeasance (SP) moved? My e-mail is in my profile, if someone wouldn't mind telling me. I haven't been around to get the updates. What's going on?

Um, Biden's security detail counts as his "friends"?

/yeah, just ask the Secret Service to wait outside
//they're very amenable to that kind of thing

Doublek111: Cordwainer Deathbird: epic retraction of flaming. cracked me up.

Hey, that's what happens when I get on the internet before the coffee kicks in. :)

mtman900: Holy shiat, misfeasance (SP) moved? My e-mail is in my profile, if someone wouldn't mind telling me. I haven't been around to get the updates. What's going on?

[threadjack again]

Been away for a while, have you? :) She moved in with her BF a couple months ago, no big secret or anything. She's still on TF, you'll run into her.

[/threadjack again]

My dad's a pacifist (Quaker) and my father in law gave many years to the Navy.

result: I'm a nonviolent person who respects our military very deeply.

Veterans do need to be aided and honored. Not necessarily because of what they did but because of how they did it - with honor, determination, fear and bravery.

I really, really hate it when people say "if you haven't served, you don't understand."

It's not the same, yes, but it's not entirely dissimilar.

LadyBinky: Um, Biden's security detail counts as his "friends"?

/yeah, just ask the Secret Service to wait outside
//they're very amenable to that kind of thing

What would happen in such a scenario? Can a President of VP actually refuse protection at events?

Vets under the bus...ops normal for the Dem's

No need to hide it Comrades, the election is over, you don't need to hide the truth about you true feelings.......

Canadian Canuck: Tr0mBoNe: It's not like he's ever served. Likely doesn't appreciate the sacrifice.

I am going to interpret that as anyone who doesn't serve doesn't appreciate the sacrifice.

Probably. Which makes all his female relatives over the age of sixty un-American.

winterwhile: Lots of nonsense

You're one of the worst trolls ever. Seriously.

FTA
I know this isn't Biden's fault, but please tell the security detail to use a little common sense. Most of these veterans have been attending the ceremony for many years, and some of them do not have many years left....The biggest disgrace was seeing a group of elderly World War II vets excluded while select civilian guests and members of the media continued to be admitted into the ceremony.

From the headline
Veterans excluded from Veteran's Day ceremonies so "Joe Biden can have his friends" and press in attendance

I'm seeing two very different interpretations of the events here. Submitter seems to be blaming "Biden and his friends." Bob Onarto on the other hand, seems to be more pissed off at the Delaware Commission of Veterans Affairs and the actions of security which resulted in limiting access to long term members.

They invited Biden. He comes to show respect. Security was doing their job as well. If Delaware Commission of Veterans Affairs continues to invite individuals that need high level protection than it may be time to rethink where they are holding these events. In other words, it may be a good idea to find a new place where more can attend without compromising security.

I myself being a Doormat for Democracy^TM, it is sad to see our veterans treated like this. It does not matter who is at fault, it is still sad to read about people who actually made sacrifices for our country treated in such a humiliating manner.

Government not caring about people? Since when???

Aarontology: LadyBinky: Um, Biden's security detail counts as his "friends"?

/yeah, just ask the Secret Service to wait outside
//they're very amenable to that kind of thing

What would happen in such a scenario? Can a President of VP actually refuse protection at events?

I don't think so.

/but my knowledge comes from The West Wing
//according to Aaron Sorkin, no.

Letter to Editor: It is a sad state of affairs when the people being honored are not even allowed into the ceremony.

FOX News: A stiff wind kept the U.S. and military flags flying strong overhead as a large group of U.S. War veterans stood strong and proud, wearing medals on their chests and honor in their hearts.

You know it's prime grade B.S. when you can use FOX news to call shenanigan.

Tr0mBoNe: It's not like he's ever served. Likely doesn't appreciate the sacrifice.





Your right. He obviously has no idea.

TheOther:

'We'll throw a party for your benefit, but you're not invited' is an old elitist scam. Don't look for the homeless or battered women or the 'special' in the Society Pages' pictures from any 'Charity Gala/Ball' 'cause they aint there.


"I have a forgotten man! Mr. Guthrie, this is Godfrey."

winterwhile: Vets under the bus...ops normal for the Dem's

No need to hide it Comrades, the election is over, you don't need to hide the truth about you true feelings.......

And here I thought I had rounded up all the douchebags on my ignore list. Looks like one slipped by.

So, according to TFA, the Secret Service was responsible (once Biden arrived...), and the author doesn't think the incident was Biden's fault.

Going a little far to manufacture the outrage these days, huh?

thalidomide new and improved: this is....about a 7 on the Biden Gaff Scale (BGS™)

If your going to make stuff up you might as well just call it 15.

torquestripe
I myself being a Doormat for DemocracyTM, it is sad to see our veterans treated like this. It does not matter who is at fault, it is still sad to read about people who actually made sacrifices for our country treated in such a humiliating manner.

Although I agree with you in spirit, ignoring what caused the problem will result in future fiasco's. If security (and their behavior) is the issue and the Delaware Commission of Veterans Affairs (and its members) want to continue inviting high level officials than something else has to be adopted and/or improved so long term members don't get treated in such a humiliating manner.

Argh2
So, according to TFA, the Secret Service was responsible (once Biden arrived...), and the author doesn't think the incident was Biden's fault. Going a little far to manufacture the outrage these days, huh?

I would have to agree with that. Here's a guy (the author) who has a legitimate argument over treatment of his fellow brethren from security measures and preferential treatment given to the media by security and most likely PR members of the organization from which he belongs. Instead, his argument is ignored and made to fuel outrage over something entirely different. What happens? He (and his veteran friends) get "treated like a doormat" again.

co-conspirator:
Sounds like security was doing its job properly: keeping hundreds of hardened killers away from the VP-elect. Better safe than sorry. Hopefully everyone who was allowed in had to take off their shoes, and no liquids were allowed, either.

Yeah every good liberal knows that a veteran is just a ticking time bomb waiting to go off. Hollywood tells them so.

Argh2: So, according to TFA, the Secret Service was responsible (once Biden arrived...), and the author doesn't think the incident was Biden's fault.

From the article:

The biggest disgrace was seeing a group of elderly World War II vets excluded while select civilian guests and members of the media continued to be admitted into the ceremony.

Torque,

You might wanna explain who that particular relation of Biden's is and why it is pretinent, for people not in the know.

TheOther: 'We'll throw a party for your benefit, but you're not invited' is an old elitist scam. Don't look for the homeless or battered women or the 'special' in the Society Pages' pictures from any 'Charity Gala/Ball' 'cause they aint there.

What kind of invitations will I get now that I've subscribed to your newsletter?

I'm sure he asked all of the crippled vets to stand up and be recognized.

so farking what. People who join the military do so because they can't find other more productive means of contributing to their family, community and society at large.

/let's be honest about this ffs

Devil Slide Wolf: so farking what. People who join the military do so because they can't find other more productive means of contributing to their family, community and society at large.

/let's be honest about this ffs

PSA. Do not feed the troll.

Devil Slide Wolf: so farking what. People who join the military do so because they can't find other more productive means of contributing to their family, community and society at large.

/let's be honest about this ffs

It's funny because if you replaced "military" with "police force", FARKers would be running over each other trying to agree with you.

ragekage: We're greenlighting Letters to the Editor now on FARK? Really?

Man, I better get writing. I know I could cook up a few stories I'm sure the neoconmodmins would just eat up. Hell, I've got a few emails I was forwarded about Obama, can we greenlight those, too?

Yes, when the Letters To The Editors are full of WIN and/or FAIL, they're fair game along with the rest of the stories.

Office Ninja: Devil Slide Wolf: so farking what. People who join the military do so because they can't find other more productive means of contributing to their family, community and society at large.

/let's be honest about this ffs

PSA. Do not feed the troll.

So true trolls aren't even trying anymore.