Sleep with a woman he called "Mommy".

Ronnie was the start of all of this fincial mess and ending a major research program into energy!

I pointed this exact hypocrisy to a very conservative friend of mine a few months back. He basically admitted that Hannity fell off his rocker after it became apparent that Obama would win the nomination.

i think reagan is a pretty cool guy. eh hates communism and doesn't afraid of anything!

dj4aces: I pointed this exact hypocrisy to a very conservative friend of mine a few months back. He basically admitted that Hannity fell off his rocker after it became apparent that Obama would win the nomination.

My very conservative friend hasn't spoken to me since the election. Leading up to the election itself, he kept trying to convince me to vote for McCain on the basis that he's a war hero. When I pointed out that John Kerry received medals and commendations for bravery in 'Nam, he said "Anyone can get those."

Cognitive dissonance means nothing to these people. If anyone can find an excuse for hypocrisy, it's conservatives.

Regan can't be the Messiah. He has not risen from the dead yet.

Zombie Reagan would cry over the mess he has made.

So when Obama dies, will they drag his cold, dead ass all over the country to be worshiped too?

nekom: i think reagan is a pretty cool guy. eh hates communism and doesn't afraid of anything!

And he's made of candy.

Surprise buttsecks?

With the exception of outspending the Commies, causing the USSR to collapse, he didn't do all that much to benefit anybody.

Is Obama on the dime yet?

Both have turned into cults of personality and that is bad. Not every Repub/Conservative thinks Reagan was coke on a hooker's ass, same goes for Dems/Liberals and Obama.

/Ronald Reagan? The actor?
//Then who's VICE-President? Jerry Lewis?

What Would Reagan do?
1) Raise Taxes 6 times in 8 years.
2) Pull the troops out of a war zone.
3) Sell Arms to Anti-Israeli terrorists.
4) Increase Domestic Spending.
5) Negotiate with the Evil Empire.

Threadjack alert:

WTF is up with selling McCain Tshirts after he lost (see banner ad that occasionally pops up above)? I get the Obama shirts, the Reagan shirts (I could even understand a Newt G. shirt), etc...but McCain? Has anyone even purchase one? If so....why?!?!

I think Reagan probably started out with solid, conservative principles. But, like so many others, he lost his way.

What would Reagan Do?

If I remember the 80's correctly, the correct answer is "call in an airstrike, then take a nap."

I love how this website talks about "visionary solutions". The Republican party hasn't been about either vision or solutions since, well, ever.

I'm pretty conservative, but besides the whole downfall of the Soviet Union, why is Reagan so revered?


/Not a Yankee dog.

RadiomanATL: Threadjack alert:

WTF is up with selling McCain Tshirts after he lost (see banner ad that occasionally pops up above)? I get the Obama shirts, the Reagan shirts (I could even understand a Newt G. shirt), etc...but McCain? Has anyone even purchase one? If so....why?!?!

I dunno, but my favorite time to wear my old Howard Dean shirt was after Kerry lost. Maybe something similar...

Their hearts tell them they are correct, but the facts say otherwise.

Well, here's the thing: I think a lot of the aim of Rovian-style attack politics is to demoralize a big chunk of the electorate. You fire up the base with attacks on "moral" issues, and a large portion of the voting base gets turned off by how sleazy and unseemly the whole thing has become. One part of the electorate becomes fanatical, the other becomes apathetic. That's the plan.

So you're not supposed to believe in a candidate who's not a Republican. What are you, a fanatic?

RadiomanATL: Threadjack alert:

WTF is up with selling McCain Tshirts after he lost (see banner ad that occasionally pops up above)? I get the Obama shirts, the Reagan shirts (I could even understand a Newt G. shirt), etc...but McCain? Has anyone even purchase one? If so....why?!?!

Irony? Kind of like the hipster mustache.

Komplex: What Would Reagan do?
1) Raise Taxes 6 times in 8 years.
2) Pull the troops out of a war zone.
3) Sell Arms to Anti-Israeli terrorists.
4) Increase Domestic Spending.
5) Negotiate with the Evil Empire.

6) Sell cocaine to American children.
7) Fund South American nun-murdering terrorists

Swampthing in Korea: I'm pretty conservative, but besides the whole downfall of the Soviet Union, why is Reagan so revered?

I'm still trying to figure out exactly when during his reworking into demigod, Reagan was revised into a fiscal conservative. I guess you *can* fool some of the people all of the time.

What would Reagan do?

First he would give massive tax breaks to the rich while deregulating the banking industry. Then he would authorize borrowing from Social Security to pay government debts. Then he would make a heroic gesture by sending the marines to Lebanon, only to silently withdraw them after hundreds get blown away.

But then he would follow it up with some GREAT SPEECHES! So it's all good.

Shvetz: With the exception of outspending the Commies, causing the USSR to collapse, he didn't do all that much to benefit anybody.

it's called a Pyrrhic victory

...why is Reagan so revered?

His usefulness as a leader has been greatly exaggerated. A century from now, the fundies will be worshipping Reagan as a second Jesus, taking communion by drinking milk and calling it his semen. Kinda like how they do already with the ritual cannibalism/vampirism of someone pacifist whose murder they try to justify.

Shvetz: With the exception of outspending the Commies, causing the USSR to collapse, he didn't do all that much to benefit anybody.

He didn't even do that. The collapse of the soviet economy was inevitable.

Shvetz: With the exception of outspending the Commies, causing the USSR to collapse, he didn't do all that much to benefit anybody.

Reagan also told the Commies to Tear down the Wall. The saying became a world wide anti-commie battle cry that culminated in the Pink Floyd song. The pressure one the USSR became so great that they fell.

What, that's not what happened?

It is questionable whether anything Reagan did had anything to do with the fall of the USSR.

The collapse of the soviet economy was inevitable.


No, NO! Complete socialism can work successfully long-term! So say Republicans, anyways. It was only Reagan that caused it to not be successful.

phenn: I think Reagan probably started out with solid, conservative principles. But, like so many others, he lost his way.

Or he just fooled people into thinking he was something that he wasn't.

Um, Hannity, I seem to recall a great large chunk of republican thinking a president was messiah. His name was George W. Bush.

It is questionable whether anything Reagan did had anything to do with the fall of the USSR.

Next, some genius will quote some commie pinko tyrant downfallen leader as a reliable source for this claim. Kinda like how Xians love quoting serial killers who speak out against pr0n and stuff.

A guy I used to work with grew up in the USSR, and he said mainstream American political attitudes aren't that much different from those that prevailed in the USSR's darkest years. He said that they really believed that if you just support your leader strongly enough, and are "united," you can confront anything.

On a funny side note, he was surprised to learn that The Beatles were popular in The West. He said he had no idea that they were a big phenomenon world-wide.

growinthings: Ronnie was the start of all of this fincial mess and ending a major research program into energy!

Actor acting as president.

Iran-Contra.

War on Drugs.

Trickle-down economics.

Maniacal focus on "defeating communism".

No thanks.

Gridlock: Komplex: What Would Reagan do?
1) Raise Taxes 6 times in 8 years.
2) Pull the troops out of a war zone.
3) Sell Arms to Anti-Israeli terrorists.
4) Increase Domestic Spending.
5) Negotiate with the Evil Empire.

6) Sell cocaine to American children.
7) Fund South American nun-murdering terrorists

To be fair, who HASN'T murdered a nun or two?

There is just something horribly wrong with zombie worship

But I guess that the born again christians loves it

Liberals belief in Obama as a messiah is just sickening an absurd talking point construct borne of right wing talk radio.

Better.

This must be a tough time to be an objective historian doing research.

There are those who love Reagan so much, the would eat his poo.

There are those who feel he's the reason for 99.9% of the US's problems right now.

Then there are those (like me) that really hopes he remains dead.

nekom: i think reagan is a pretty cool guy. eh hates communism and doesn't afraid of anything!

English isn't your first language...is it?

Shvetz: With the exception of outspending the Commies, causing the USSR to collapse, he didn't do all that much to benefit anybody.

He blew a lot of money, but the Russians didn't. So they were the fiscal conservatives. And look where it got them.

I never tire of having a bunch of kids, whose understanding of history derives primarily from the little they recall from History 101, lecture me on the Reagan legacy.

Snark away - I have some shiat I have to do outside in 26 minutes.;-)

Commit treason and have Oliver North take the fall?

Ahh, the Heritage Foundation. Ever a source of calm, rational, well-reasoned discourse.

By the way, the Heritage Foundation would like us all to know that we have 33 minutes left to live. (new window)

Marla Singer's Laundry: nekom: i think reagan is a pretty cool guy. eh hates communism and doesn't afraid of anything!

English isn't your first language...is it?

It's an internet meme.

Example:

I think Wise Beard Man is pretty awesome, grinds $cilons and doesn't afraid of anything.

What Would Reagen Do?

Before or after he got Alzheimer's?

You know, I doubt any of the right wingers would respond, but could someone provide a citation of liberals (i.e. multiple sources) of Obama supporters calling him 'the Messiah' or anything similar.
[Citation needed]

Marla Singer's Laundry: nekom: i think reagan is a pretty cool guy. eh hates communism and doesn't afraid of anything!

English isn't your first language...is it?

It's a Meme

Podna: Marla Singer's Laundry: nekom: i think reagan is a pretty cool guy. eh hates communism and doesn't afraid of anything!

English isn't your first language...is it?

It's a Meme

Ah, my bad.