I can house a family in WLA if they have been evacuated for a few days

Thank you, mods.

My thoughts and prayers go out to all who are in the midst of this terrible situation.

I don't know about the other areas, but my parents have been living in the same house in Yorba Linda for the past 25 years and there has never been a fire that has come remotely close to their home. Tonight, they have things packed in the car ready for the evacuation notice. So no, it doesn't happen in the same place every year.

Also, since these fires are of "suspicious origin", you can't blame it on natural occurrences so much as human asshats.

There was a desert wind blowing that night. It was one of those hot dry Santa Anas that come down through the mountain passes and curl your hair and make your nerves jump and your skin itch. On nights like that every booze party ends in a fight. Meek little wives feel the edge of the carving knife and study their husbands' necks. Anything can happen. You can even get a full glass of beer at a cocktail lounge.

I need a map. Can anyone provide a map?

Cecilia Ann: I don't know about the other areas, but my parents have been living in the same house in Yorba Linda for the past 25 years and there has never been a fire that has come remotely close to their home. Tonight, they have things packed in the car ready for the evacuation notice. So no, it doesn't happen in the same place every year.

Also, since these fires are of "suspicious origin", you can't blame it on natural occurrences so much as human asshats.

The Oakridge park is considered a criminal investigation site at the moment so most likely they are looking at arson there as well. I was there the week before the last Sylmar area fire and I counted close to 10 or so homes with for sale signs, so my brother's in laws as well as others have mentioned that if it was arson it's possible that someone was in danger of losing their home and they decided that they would prefer an insurance check rather than a foreclosure notice especially since their was a fire already burning nearby.

phlegmmo: As opposed to animal asshats.

/I'm looking at you, hyena

You never know about those asshole firecats.

But really, some of these places are NOT fire zones. And it's not like these fires spontaneously happened. There's a possibility that people caused them either by negligence or arson. That sort of thing can happen anywhere. It's only worse here because of the arid weather.

How long has there been a fire going on?

/in law school, first year so I don't get out much

FIRE MAP: http://cbs2.com/firewatch/#corona_fire

NewportBarGuy: I need a map. Can anyone provide a map?

Link (new window)

the LAC and OC fires

Thanks mods:

I'm about 15-20 miles from the various OC fires.

We went bowling today after a soccer game. When we came out the entire Northern horizon was black. Not gray not smoky. Black.

Everywhere else you looked was bright blue. So weird.

As much as everyone including the networks enjoy the bright colors I hope this goes away soon.

Google maps, if anyone is interested:

Sylmar (new window)
Orange County (new window)
Montecito (new window)

Cecilia Ann: phlegmmo: As opposed to animal asshats.

/I'm looking at you, hyena

You never know about those asshole firecats.

But really, some of these places are NOT fire zones. And it's not like these fires spontaneously happened. There's a possibility that people caused them either by negligence or arson. That sort of thing can happen anywhere. It's only worse here because of the arid weather.

I think the Corona fire was suspected to have started down the riverbed? I think that's what I was told, that or it spread through there.

One more thing about people living near these fire zones. Some of these areas are fire zones: Laguna, Irvine, Chino Hills etc... because people want a bit of green and undeveloped area around there houses. Not everyone is okay with miles and miles of tract housing.

I wish my city had a few more parks and canyons.

Cecilia Ann:
phlegmmo: As opposed to animal asshats.
It's only worse here because of the arid weather.

Agreed. The single-digit humidity, the heat and the wind combined to make this a confligration the likes we'ver seen. I was breathing smoke and ash all afternoon and evening, and I was 20 miles from the fires.

scruffy1: Link (new window)

the LAC and OC fires

Wow... How bad are the winds? That is fast.

The only time we had a brush fire near my house about 10 minutes after the fire started two homeless dudes crawled out with blackened faces and a worried look.

Police took them away from their camp powered with stolen boat batteries. I'm sure they didn't mean to start the fire, but things happen.

davidt: One more thing about people living near these fire zones. Some of these areas are fire zones: Laguna, Irvine, Chino Hills etc... because people want a bit of green and undeveloped area around there houses. Not everyone is okay with miles and miles of tract housing.

I wish my city had a few more parks and canyons.

I partially blame the Irvine co. They are one the main groups responsible for building into the hills pretty much along the 241 corridor and the 5 heading down to San Diego.

NewportBarGuy: scruffy1: Link (new window)

the LAC and OC fires

Wow... How bad are the winds? That is fast.

They can get between 50-90 MPH with the Santa Anas, realistically about 70 is what is being experienced in the two areas as well as up north in Santa Barbara.

Not to be macabre, but...

Can anyone post fire pics to the thread?

Speaking of asshats, now reports of people looting houses in evacuated areas. People suck.

The winds have died around here(diamond bar). We're about 10 minutes north of the yorba linda and brea fire. Yeah, these things happen, just like hurricanes, blizzards, floods, tornadoes, etc. That doesn't invalidate the loss that people experience. If you've grown up in an area, you take the risk, for sure, but that doesn't mean it doesn't suck when it affects you.

From where I am, we can see a red glow over the ridge to the SE. Looks like it's been calming down though.

The day after, in Montecito.

scruffy1: They can get between 50-90 MPH with the Santa Anas, realistically about 70 is what is being experienced in the two areas as well as up north in Santa Barbara.

Not much you can do to fight that. Best wishes.

southaustin: I'll go ahead and say it: I'm having trouble with sympathy. These fires burn in the same places every year and rich people rebuild there every year. What's up with that?

I'll go ahead and say it: You're an asshat. And an ignorant one, at that.

This fire's within spitting distance of downtown. It straddles I-5 and is taking out power lines left and right. The entire county's subject to rolling blackouts, and a half a million people are trapped behind it. Orange County currently does not have reliable water.

Even as in the case of the Santa Barbara fire, the people who're inconvenienced, who're evacuated, who lose everything, aren't the rich folks who live there, but the people who scrub their toilets.

And may fate reserve a more fitting fate for the people who stand by and laugh.

(Hell, Corona's a solidly poor community. 21K per capita average does not go far in SoCal. And this is not like Malibu and mudslides; this is not local; it's huge. Orange County's basically on fire. 2000+ acres currently ablaze; 2.8 million people in harm's way. Did I mention you're an asshat?)

Fires are burning about 5 miles, maybe less, from me. I'm not too worried though as they'd have to burn a hell of a lot of asphalt and a mall to get to me.

Friends and family are evacuated to a central location but they may have to all relocate if this jumps Imperial Hwy. I doubt that will happen but then again I watched the San Diego fires burn almost to the sea.

Scary stuff right now. I'll be wearing clothes to be tonight.

I'm wondering if my husband's work place at Savi Ranch got burned up. He works at B&K Precision there right off of Wier canyon. I heard some of the business went up.

Take care, SOCAL Farkers.

/unless you make fun of gulf coast residents for living in flood zones/tornado alley/hurricane target range

My home is open to young slender attractive female models seeking shelter and group sex with each other...and, me.

I'm here to help !

BondageFaerie: Fires are burning about 5 miles, maybe less, from me. I'm not too worried though as they'd have to burn a hell of a lot of asphalt and a mall to get to me.

Hearing the winds are abating - hope no embers jump that asphalt...good thoughts your way, BF

I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the fire levees.

I used to be a cynical person who could never have sympathy for people in situations like this. "Oh, they lived on a hill. They should have known this would happen". During the fires in San Diego last year, my aunt and uncle had to evacuate their home at 4 in the morning. When that happened, I realized that no matter how rich you are, losing your home and all your possessions is a devastating thing. Sure, a home and most things can be replaced, but its the pieces that cannot be replaced. Thank God, my aunt/uncle didn't have to deal with that. All they came home to was a really dirty pool, fence that blew over and a lot of dirt to clean up.

davidt: Thanks mods:

I'm about 15-20 miles from the various OC fires.

We went bowling today after a soccer game. When we came out the entire Northern horizon was black. Not gray not smoky. Black.

Everywhere else you looked was bright blue. So weird.

As much as everyone including the networks enjoy the bright colors I hope this goes away soon.


well la dee da mr. 2 sport athlete.

I just got a text message from my favorite co-worker. Her apartment is burning down as we speak. Newlywed, husband just laid off,and baby on the way. These are human beings, people, save the snark for another thread. BTW she lives in Yorba Linda, a place not prone to fire at all.

/ignorant people piss me off

Also I gotta mention a few things:

The houses burning in Anaheim Hills and Yorba Linda are mostly richie rich homes. Apartment and Condo complexes did catch on fire and burned to the ground quite quickly. So people of all economic backgrounds are being affected.

Brea forbids building on ridge lines for specifically this reason. Yorba Linda does not. You can see a line of houses where on the top of the hill where Yorba Linda ends and Brea begins. Well .. they used to be there anyways.

OCRegister.com has a good map that is updated frequently.

studebaker hoch:
That's why I like living in southern Arizona.

No natural disasters. We're too far east for the earthquakes, too far west for the tornadoes, too far inland for hurricanes, too low for forest fires, too high to flood.

Too hot to live without frying your brain.

BondageFaerie: Fires are burning about 5 miles, maybe less, from me. I'm not too worried though as they'd have to burn a hell of a lot of asphalt and a mall to get to me.

Friends and family are evacuated to a central location but they may have to all relocate if this jumps Imperial Hwy. I doubt that will happen but then again I watched the San Diego fires burn almost to the sea.

Scary stuff right now. I'll be wearing clothes to be tonight.

Please be aware that it's not always burning through stuff. One house out of fifty will start burning, with the fire still a mile away. All kinds of reasons. Embers up under the eaves - just one - can make a house ignite really fast.

That's how one fire got so quickly into five completely different areas.

Keep safe. I'm not trying to scare you (we're 20 miles from any flames, but I'm kicking myself that I didn't fill up the gas tank today when I had the chance) - if people evacuate, they'll come out this way - there might not even be any gas if that happens.

The Honda Dealership at Savi Ranch went up in flames. I heard the Costco was burning too. Hope they got the animals out of the Petsmart.

Atypical Person Reading Fark: The day after, in Montecito.

Damn.

Nowhere near there, nothing I can do, and I won't clog up the thread anymore than this, but good luck to all those folks.

Surely most of them have insurance to rebuild it all, but as someone who had the house set fire to before (yeah, "set"), it's a royal pain in the ass anyway, even IF you somehow were lucky enough to get your real sentimental stuff out.

Hopefully for all those folks, at least stuff gets rebuilt fast and on schedule and the new place ends up swankier than the old :)

studebaker hoch: That's why I like living in southern Arizona.

No natural disasters. We're too far east for the earthquakes, too far west for the tornadoes, too far inland for hurricanes, too low for forest fires, too high to flood.

How would you feel if an arsonist torched your neighborhood then? Cuz that's likely what happened with the 500+ houses that were lost in Sylmar.

I filled my truck up today. The husband and I have already discussed what we will be loading into it first (cats, son, computers - possibly in that order) if it should come to that. My mother went to visit friends in Riverside and is stuck out there until the freeways open up again.

Mostly I'm afraid of losing services. My lights have been flickering rather disturbingly this evening.

ClicheGuevara07: Tripped Out Psychedelic Wet Dream: pray

Oh shiat, has anyone checked on Omarion?!
Pray for Omarion in his time of need

ronnie2bucks

luckily you won't run out of water anytime soon.

I wish it would happen today. Would stop the developers who are ass-raping our pristine desert to build stucco boxes.

/my house doesn't use much water - rain cisterns, irrigated with graywater, etc...and has been for over 10 years. Way before it was "hip to be green".

NewportBarGuy: I need a map. Can anyone provide a map?



Seriously, hope everyone stays safe.

/lives in socal
//conditions are ug-ly

On a scale from 1 to 10, how bad are these firestorms compared to the usual fare?

I burnt the whole thing.

Foxxinnia Quote 2008-11-16 01:29:07 AM
On a scale from 1 to 10, how bad are these firestorms compared to the usual fare?

10 - very bad winds, worst fire since Bel-Air early 60's

safeinsane: Seriously, hope everyone stays safe.

That's the map I was looking for. Thanks!

safeinsane: Seriously, hope everyone stays safe.

/lives in socal
//conditions are ug-ly

air quality is going to be bad for the next few days, so asthmatics be careful. I also wouldn't make plans to wash your car for the next week or so... Ashfall sticks on newly washed cars like flies on sticky paper.

Foxxinnia: On a scale from 1 to 10, how bad are these firestorms compared to the usual fare?

10, almost 11 due to stretched resources, high winds, limited access, low water pressure and lots and lots of residential properties. Most of the other fires are mainly in sparsely (by local standards) populated areas, these are hitting areas with lots of homes that are usually not prone to fire.