"It's appropriate that Obama's vetting Clinton, but she's one women,"

She embodies a multitude?

...said Amy Siskind, co-founder of The New Agenda, a nonpartisan women rights' group founded by former Clinton supporters.

Cheescake Caucus

"We want to see parity in the representation of women in the Cabinet."

Quality counts as quantity, SoS is the highest cabinet position, dumbass.

TheOther: She embodies a multitude?

Maybe below the waist.





'I agree with those who are concerned that it would have been nice to see more women.'

mmhmm.

He should put a woman in charge of the Department of Making Sammiches

I hear there are plenty of openings in the kitchen (kidding -- everyone knows the best chefs are men).

/how about just hiring the best, regardless of sex, race etc.?

damageddude: /how about just hiring the best, regardless of sex, race etc.?

I think that's exactly what is happening. N.O.W. has a very skewed invested interest.

It's pretty simple what's going on. All the interest groups that even THINK they had a hand in Obama's win are lining up to get the post-election handouts. It will be literally impossible to please all or even most. Usually if one is pleased, anyone else that gets their way does so by sheer blind luck.

Obama's best way out is to just ignore everyone, pick what's best for him and worry about it later.

I used to respect NOW, before they started railing against joint custody laws that would have, you know, put the best interests of children in custody disputes before the narrow interests of either mother or father.

And, in recent years, they have employed this "fire, ready, aim" approach to advocacy. I see that represented in this case.

Jesus Christ...there have been two...TWO...appointments to senior staff positions. There is an entire cabinet to fill and Obama did you the courtesy of asking for recommendations! And your response? Raise the "yellow light" alarm! OMG!

As a staunch supporter of women's rights, abortion rights, equal pay, etc., and a long-time advocate and...yes...community organizer...this is exactly how NOT to do it effectively.

I don't suppose it could possibly be that there aren't as many qualified women as there are men? No, that couldn't be it, it must be sexism.

Ugh, as a woman, NOW makes me angry.
I couldn't care less if his administration were all men, as long as they were qualified.

Did anyone see Gandy on the Colbert Report?

TFA: The mention of Clinton Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers is seen as particularly problematic. As president of Harvard University, Summers said that innate differences between men and women might be one reason fewer women succeed in science and math careers. The controversial comment led to his ousting as president.

They need to get over that comment. the guy's record shows (new window) that that was just one poorly worded comment.

I don't know what they're biatching about - the article says:

"Some women's rights advocates believe the new administration is conducting a broad search"

I'll give him credit - this is how you do it:

The Obama transition team asked NOW to send suggestions of qualified female candidates, according to Gandy.


Instead of just letting people biatch about something, you make them come up with a solution. Propose some candidates.

Yeah came here to say I don't care what his cabinet and staff look like as long as they are not inept, corrupt, and or just plain farking stupid. I am sick of this we supported you now fill the staff with our people shiat. Thanks for the support now back in your corner.

HAHA!

No one cares!

As long as they support killing fetuses, it's all good!

White House glass ceiling? I thought Sarah Palin said that the vice president was the highest glass ceiling for women.

Stoj: I don't know what they're biatching about - the article says:

"Some women's rights advocates believe the new administration is conducting a broad search"

Heh, good one.

Stoj: I don't know what they're biatching about - the article says:

"Some women's rights advocates believe the new administration is conducting a broad search"

I think I might know what they're biatching about.

So is Cunnalingus Rice walking around on a glass floor now or something? I was under the impression that the ceiling stayed shattered.

NYZooMan: HAHA!

No one cares!

As long as they support killing fetuses, it's all good!



One toke over the line, sweet Jesus, one toke over the line...

Can we wait until he actually finishes choosing his cabinet before we jump on his selections?

JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: So is Cunnalingus Rice walking around on a glass floor now or something?

She's in a glass box that Zombie Thatcher keeps in her glass basement.

and from an article (new window) farther up the Politics queue:

The Obama-Biden transition team has just named the staunchly pro-Internet Susan Crawford its co-lead in the review of the powerful FCC.

so maybe NOW should take a step back and STFU for a while.

Make that Might as Well Be Zombie Thatcher.

Stoj: I don't know what they're biatching about - the article says:

"Some women's rights advocates believe the new administration is conducting a broad search"


I don't know how many times I told those boys, never call chicks "Broads."

=smidge=

FTA: "I have been struck by how few women have been mentioned for high-level positions," said former Vermont Gov. Madeleine Kunin, who worked on the Clinton transition.

"Struck" you say?

But you told them you just walked into a door?

Good girl.

/Keeeeding.

First read that and thought...

Madelaine Kahn worked on the Clinton transition?

How cool is that?

Didn't vote for Obama, but I would have to side on letting the man fill his cabinet and go from there. I am less concerned about Obama making choices to satisfy a particular ratio than I am about the actual people he picks.

Of course he's putting in a thicker glass ceiling. The old one had 18 million goddamn cracks in it

NYZooMan: HAHA!

No one cares!

As long as they support killing fetuses, it's all good!

Please, don't listen to other people on Fark telling you to 'get over it' or to 'STFU'. hold on to your pain and continue to broadcast it here, I will never put you on ignore. I love to watch you and GaryPDX and various and other sundry crybabies twist and turn and suffer. It is gonna be a long 8 years for you...

Oh, you want a good woman to put in, go with Amy Gutmann (president of University of Pennsylvania) for Education. Said it before, I'll say it again.

Valerie Jarrett is the new senior advisor. that's worth something isn't it?

The beauty of the way Obama raised money and kicked complete ass is that he doesn't owe these groups squat. No one can say, "If it wasn't for us you wouldn't be President."

Its beautiful.

See, the problem with many advocacy groups is they don't want the "judged by their merits not their gender or race" equality... they want the "your numbers have to match or be less than my numbers" equality.

Read: Everyone should be on a level playing field for any job in America dammit, even if we have to force people who weren't in the running into those positions!

Can we have that outed CIA agent, Hootie McBoobs as NSA? Tell me she wouldn't wake Barack up every monring reading the PDB.

Maybe there just aren't enough female lobbyists?

So much change it's staggering I tells ya.

/vote third party next time ya dummies

NYZooMan: HAHA!

No one cares!

As long as they support killing fetuses, it's all good!

Fetuses, hell, I support killing full grown people through my tax contributions to support whatever wars we have going at any given time. So do you.

10 billion a day is no small measure of support.

TheOther: "It's appropriate that Obama's vetting Clinton, but she's one women,"

She embodies a multitude?

Does Clinton contradict herself?
Very well then, she contradicts herself.
(She is large. She contains multitudes.)

Obama is making Allah proud!

/ducks
//aisle seat please

Brubold: Maybe there just aren't enough female lobbyists?

So much change it's staggering I tells ya.

/vote third party next time ya dummies


Because "third parties" are NECESSARILY going to be "better."

/ ""

NYZooMan: HAHA!

No one cares!

As long as they support killing fetuses, it's all good!

LOL WUT

Let's face it.. it's hard to find pretty women who are dedicated to public service.

Oh no way! Hiring people based on qualifications instead of pandering to different racial/sexism groups?


/sarcasm


Now STFU, qualified people are talking.

The rumours swirling around HIllary's "Demands" are a tad disturbing.
If any prove true, it just shows that she still has not accepted that she lost the primaries and feels she has more power than Obama.
It is precisly this attitude that defetaed her run for the presidential nomination.
I really did like the Clintons when Bill was the president but the adopted air of "Entitlement" thay have decided to project is in complete opposition to the initial creation of our democratic republic.
Nobody deserves to be president but is rather chosen b y the electorat based on how their states voted. To feel you deserve the presidency is one step removed from autocratic rule.
Obama has one cohesive job now and that is to appoint, lead and inspire the nation based on his promise of change, representative democracy and hope.
That Hillary might have a desire to take an appointment where she sets the rules, limitations and autonomy is ridiculous. The Secretary of State is the golbal respresentative of the President of the UNited States whose primary function is to deliver the message, intent and diplomacy of the President.
Hillary would be a terrible choice for this position if it is her intent to act as a second government leader, equal to and autonomis of the President.
Bill Richardson would be a finer choice, by far.

PresidentPutz: The rumours swirling around HIllary's "Demands" are a tad disturbing.
If any prove true, it just shows that she still has not accepted that she lost the primaries and feels she has more power than Obama.
It is precisly this attitude that defetaed her run for the presidential nomination.
I really did like the Clintons when Bill was the president but the adopted air of "Entitlement" thay have decided to project is in complete opposition to the initial creation of our democratic republic.
Nobody deserves to be president but is rather chosen b y the electorat based on how their states voted. To feel you deserve the presidency is one step removed from autocratic rule.
Obama has one cohesive job now and that is to appoint, lead and inspire the nation based on his promise of change, representative democracy and hope.
That Hillary might have a desire to take an appointment where she sets the rules, limitations and autonomy is ridiculous. The Secretary of State is the golbal respresentative of the President of the UNited States whose primary function is to deliver the message, intent and diplomacy of the President.
Hillary would be a terrible choice for this position if it is her intent to act as a second government leader, equal to and autonomis of the President.
Bill Richardson would be a finer choice, by far.

I agree with this. I hope all her demands crater her chances. But the whole idea of Obama liking Lincoln's method of putting formal rivals/dissenting voices on the cabinet may be something that drives his selections. I'm all for studying history and putting interesting ideas into practice, but I think Hillary Clinton would be far better as a supreme court justice than as a secretary of state. The supreme court would keep her from grandstanding and it would get her out of the senate, but most importantly, I think she'd be an excellent addition to the court.

I feel that, with the Clintons. there's more personal ambition than there is a desire to do what's best for the country at this time.

I also agree that it doesn't matter who he appoints as well as they're the most capable candidate. I don't want to see quotas filled on the cabinet.

Relatively Obscure: Because "third parties" are NECESSARILY going to be "better."

They usually just make the sex more awkward.

OH GOD, IT HAS NO EYES!!

Where are these rumors about Hillary's "demands"? Anyone have a link?

In fairness, Obama has just seen (and benefitted from) a perfect example of what happens when you appoint somebody just because of their sex rather thatn their ability to do the job.

So one assumes that before he makes an appointment of either sex, his prime consideration is going to be "have they got the ability to do the job?" not "Oh hey, I don't have enough ladies on my tema, gotta appoint one quick to keep the chicks happy."

Oh, please.

You know, manufactured outrage insults the validity of the issue that outrage is about. By using sexism as a tool to craft a narrative about Obama for political purposes, you're dismissing the impact and relevance of actual sexism in all its forms. It's like when Dick Morris suddenly became a feminist when Sarah Palin joined the McCain ticket, despite mocking Hillary Clinton's "strident shrillness" and accusing her of "retreating behind the apron strings" throughout the primaries.

It's an issue you crusade for as long as it's useful to your political narrative. Which is very revealing about the character of people who do it.