Thank God. Those Signing Statement bullshiats were entirely unConstitutional. I just hope Bush doesnt figure out a way to fark Obama over in the next 2 months.

Obama himself has signaled, for example, that he intends to reverse Bush's controversial limit on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research...The new president is also expected to lift a so-called global gag rule barring international family planning groups that receive U.S. aid from counseling women about the availability of abortion, even in countries where the procedure is legal...he intends to quickly reverse the Bush administration's decision last December to deny California the authority to regulate carbon dioxide emissions from automobiles...

Oh, HELL yeah!

Cleaning up Bush's mess will be a full-term job, but this sounds like a great, quick start.

I hope he'll pull Bush's crony fundies out of the science and research centers.

Damn, that's a great name for a band--The Crony Fundies. I'll have to write that down.

Good.

i'm curious how we'll be informed that this means obama is actually hitler mixed with stalin and that he's actually breaking his campaign promises.

/watches thread eagerly

burndtdan: i'm curious how we'll be informed that this means obama is actually hitler mixed with stalin and that he's actually breaking his campaign promises.

/watches thread eagerly

It's early here, the finest "conservatives" are still at church getting cleared for the crap they said last week. Then they can start over with this week's vileness.

I wonder how Bush will handle that? I mean knowing that Obama Day One resets the clock on everything Bush tried to do for 8 years?

burndtdan: i'm curious how we'll be informed that this means obama is actually hitler mixed with stalin and that he's actually breaking his campaign promises.

Well Obama is the Antichrist, so it's sort of a Godwin of a higher order.

The list of executive orders targeted by Obama's team could well get longer in the coming days, as Bush's appointees rush to enact a number of last-minute policies in an effort to extend his legacy.

War crimes, bankruptcies, foreclosures, trashed Bill of Rights, tarnished if not destroyed international reputation. Trust me, Shrub's "legacy" will be around for decades.

lajimi: The list of executive orders targeted by Obama's team could well get longer in the coming days, as Bush's appointees rush to enact a number of last-minute policies in an effort to extend his legacy.

War crimes, bankruptcies, foreclosures, trashed Bill of Rights, tarnished if not destroyed international reputation. Trust me, Shrub's "legacy" will be around for decades.

I can't wait to see Bush's pardon list. i'm going to go with 200 people. it's a nice round number.

Here's a list. Is this all of them?

Weaver95: I wonder how Bush will handle that? I mean knowing that Obama Day One resets the clock on everything Bush tried to do for 8 years?

He tries to do the damage before 1/20, having irreversible effects.

Chariset: burndtdan: i'm curious how we'll be informed that this means obama is actually hitler mixed with stalin and that he's actually breaking his campaign promises.

Well Obama is the Antichrist, so it's sort of a Godwin of a higher order.

call it the antigod-win.

Weaver95: I wonder how Bush will handle that? I mean knowing that Obama Day One resets the clock on everything Bush tried to do for 8 years?

I wonder how many sudden 'Bush loyalists' will only learn of these signing statements as Obama rescinds them?

Bush hasn't been much into pardons. He prefers to focus on punishments.

Now if only the Obama administration could invent some sort of time machine....

JerseyTim: Here's a list. Is this all of them?

no
it is NOT complete
it is missing all the top secret ones
the ones where bush ordered things which were either truly top secret and the ones where bush was breakign the law, but thought he could get away with it if he made it TS

torture memo is an example of a TS executive order

cant wait until obama gets his hands on those

Weaver95: I can't wait to see Bush's pardon list. i'm going to go with 200 people. it's a nice round number.

can he pardon people who haven't been charged yet?
can he pardon himself?

/bewhahahahahaahah

Mordant: burndtdan: i'm curious how we'll be informed that this means obama is actually hitler mixed with stalin and that he's actually breaking his campaign promises.

/watches thread eagerly

It's early here, the finest "conservatives" are still at church getting cleared for the crap they said last week. Then they can start over with this week's vileness.

I'm betting the weekly prayer circles will go quite a bit longer this week

namatad: Weaver95: I can't wait to see Bush's pardon list. i'm going to go with 200 people. it's a nice round number.

can he pardon people who haven't been charged yet?
can he pardon himself?

/bewhahahahahaahah

He'll ask Cheney to pardon him.

DamnYankees: Weaver95: I wonder how Bush will handle that? I mean knowing that Obama Day One resets the clock on everything Bush tried to do for 8 years?

He tries to do the damage before 1/20, having irreversible effects.

Yeah, there does seem to be a kind of 'vindictive bastard' vibe from Bush. After his illegal alien reform bill got tanked by the rank and file he got pretty mean towards everyone there for a bit. I could see him doing something petty on the way out the door.

NeverDrunk23: He'll ask Cheney to pardon him.

a) cheney can not pardon, anyone
2) bush needs to pardon cheney, right?

Lets also keep in mind Bush can't pardon anyone for war crimes. He has no jurisdiction over those international matters.

burndtdan:

Well Obama is the Antichrist, so it's sort of a Godwin of a higher order.

call it the antigod-win.

Godlose.

NINTENBOXCUBESTATION 360: Thank God. Those Signing Statement bullshiats were entirely unConstitutional. I just hope Bush doesnt figure out a way to fark Obama over in the next 2 months.

He already knows how to do that. And he intends to do it in the time he has left. Most of his remaining EO's are going to be things that, once signed, it'll be difficult to reverse.

Obama is a poker player. He could be bluffing or his holding the nuts... either way, all you whiny neo-cons are gonna blink first and he is gonna take you out!!1


FTA: A team of four dozen advisers, working for months in virtual solitude, set out to identify regulatory and policy changes Obama could implement soon after his inauguration. The team is now consulting with liberal advocacy groups, Capitol Hill staffers and potential agency chiefs to prioritize those they regard as the most onerous or ideologically offensive, said a top transition official who was not permitted to speak on the record about the inner workings of the transition.

The only way to get at this level of cancer is to cut it the fark out and eat your recession chemo.

DamnYankees: Lets also keep in mind Bush can't pardon anyone for war crimes. He has no jurisdiction over those international matters.

What does it matter to this administration? If they don't like laws, they just invent new ones. They changed "torture" to mean anything that doesn't cause organ failure and death. They threw out the Geneva Conventions. No one has any power over the US because it still is the global hegemony.

NINTENBOXCUBESTATION 360: Thank God. Those Signing Statement bullshiats were entirely unConstitutional. I just hope Bush doesnt figure out a way to fark Obama over in the next 2 months.

It's not so much that they're unConstitutional, as that they're legally meaningless. The Courts don't have to give them any effect, and I don't think they will. But this doesn't really relate to executive orders.

burndtdan: i'm curious how we'll be informed that this means obama is actually hitler mixed with stalin and that he's actually breaking his campaign promises.

This breaking of Obama's promise to govern in a bi-partisan manner proves that Obama is actually Hitler crossed with Stalin.

awfulperson: I hope he'll pull Bush's crony fundies out of the science and research centers.

Damn, that's a great name for a band--The Crony Fundies. I'll have to write that down.

Not only that, but if he fired all the lazy corrupt cronies from that Orwellian waste of money, DHS, it would be like setting off a neutron bomb.

With a Democratic controlled congress how can he possibly enact something that can't just be undone on day 1?

Weaver95: lajimi: The list of executive orders targeted by Obama's team could well get longer in the coming days, as Bush's appointees rush to enact a number of last-minute policies in an effort to extend his legacy.

War crimes, bankruptcies, foreclosures, trashed Bill of Rights, tarnished if not destroyed international reputation. Trust me, Shrub's "legacy" will be around for decades.

I can't wait to see Bush's pardon list. i'm going to go with 200 people. it's a nice round number.

Let's make it like the "jellybeans in a jar" game. Whoever guesses closest without going over wins.

I guess 201.

SherKhan: Godlose.

GodFail.

Really. I expect more from you.

DamnYankees: Lets also keep in mind Bush can't pardon anyone for war crimes. He has no jurisdiction over those international matters.

And funny enough, no international body has jurisdiction over any American to try and prosecute us for war crimes. Sure, they may think they do, but we all know the score.

Go ahead, UN. Send in your army to arrest Bush or Cheney. What's that? You don't have an army?

/Black Bush
//should be in Times Sqaure selling hats

captain_heroic44: I guess 201.

202.

(I like this game)

It's going to be very satisfying to watch "The Deciders" crappy policies get dismantled.
But it will be even more fun to watch the fundies become hysterically unraveled.
They are going be slinging mud and proselytizing hell and damnation constantly.
My response: Have a little cheese to go with that.

Bush just needs to lick all of the documents and no one will touch 'em.

Are Obama's peeps gonna fish the Bill of Rights out of the shredder and tape it back together? Because that would be a good start.

captain_heroic44: Weaver95: lajimi: The list of executive orders targeted by Obama's team could well get longer in the coming days, as Bush's appointees rush to enact a number of last-minute policies in an effort to extend his legacy.

War crimes, bankruptcies, foreclosures, trashed Bill of Rights, tarnished if not destroyed international reputation. Trust me, Shrub's "legacy" will be around for decades.

I can't wait to see Bush's pardon list. i'm going to go with 200 people. it's a nice round number.

Let's make it like the "jellybeans in a jar" game. Whoever guesses closest without going over wins.

I guess 201.

199. COME ON DOWN!

Skleenar: This breaking of Obama's promise to govern in a bi-partisan manner proves that Obama is actually Hitler crossed with Stalin.

No that would be Cheney. Bush's administration is the partisan one.
Obama is just going to work to set things right. Like stem cell research.

Skleenar: captain_heroic44: I guess 201.

202.

(I like this game)

You bastard!!!!

; )

Skleenar: captain_heroic44: I guess 201.

202.

(I like this game)

People who do that on Price is Right tick me off, same with people who guess 1$

Skleenar: This breaking of Obama's promise to govern in a bi-partisan manner proves that Obama is actually Hitler crossed with Stalin.

Governing as Hitler and Stalin would be bi-partisan. Too bad we never asked him to specify which two parties.

captain_heroic44: It's not so much that they're unConstitutional, as that they're legally meaningless. The Courts don't have to give them any effect, and I don't think they will. But this doesn't really relate to executive orders.

They are significant, however. The signing statements affect policy/standards among executive agencies. While they have little to no effect in court, they do have a big effect on the day to day actions of our government.

DamnYankees: Lets also keep in mind Bush can't pardon anyone for war crimes. He has no jurisdiction over those international matters.

It would prevent anyone in the US from prosecuting them. However, if Bush officials travel abroad, they (in theory) could find themselves in a Pinochet-like situation.

Something_else: captain_heroic44: It's not so much that they're unConstitutional, as that they're legally meaningless. The Courts don't have to give them any effect, and I don't think they will. But this doesn't really relate to executive orders.

They are significant, however. The signing statements affect policy/standards among executive agencies. While they have little to no effect in court, they do have a big effect on the day to day actions of our government.


Which, so long as the executive branch is faithfully executing the law, falls properly within the purview of the chief executive to do.

I'll bet Bush's staff is going to remove the 'o' key from all the whitehouse keyboards.

Wow, I thought Obama was going to CHANGE the tone of Washington, but instead he's bringing his fierce partisanship to everything the Republicans have done. What a uniter!

You Obamabots got tricked into electing a conservative! HAHA. Proof that this is actually a right-of-center country! Not that it matters, since he is a marxist and will get his ass kicked out of office in 2012

/I modeled this troll after the Republican reaction to Rahm being picked for WH chief of stuff. I felt it was a good representation for how Republican trolls will choose to spin this. I also combined that with this new ridiculous talking point coming out of wing nut blogosphere. I hope you all enjoyed it.

Rusty Workboot: captain_heroic44: Weaver95: lajimi: The list of executive orders targeted by Obama's team could well get longer in the coming days, as Bush's appointees rush to enact a number of last-minute policies in an effort to extend his legacy.

War crimes, bankruptcies, foreclosures, trashed Bill of Rights, tarnished if not destroyed international reputation. Trust me, Shrub's "legacy" will be around for decades.

I can't wait to see Bush's pardon list. i'm going to go with 200 people. it's a nice round number.

Let's make it like the "jellybeans in a jar" game. Whoever guesses closest without going over wins.

I guess 201.

199. COME ON DOWN!

I guess 1.

Weaver95: I wonder how Bush will handle that? I mean knowing that Obama Day One resets the clock on everything Bush tried to do for 8 years?

I doubt he'll mind much...there's so much else he's done that can never be fixed.